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Post by Eastcoastmom on Apr 3, 2020 22:26:03 GMT
The two hubbies who left (or tried to leave) have some mental health issues. Michael should never have been chosen for this show. He's a compulsive liar. I had a neighbor who was a compulsive liar (this was when we were children) and I was a bit older than her and even when I'd call her out on her lies, which were mostly implausible, she'd stick to her guns. Then when my sons were young, our neighbor's girl across the street was a compulsive liar. I wonder what causes some people to do that? In Michael's case, I think he has very poor self-esteem and lies to appear more successful or important but I don't know why he'd lie about the mileage on his car odometer. He's very strange. It's been talked about elsewhere that Brandon has a drinking problem. I don't know if he does or doesn't but he does have a short fuse. I can understand the frustration of filming but this is what he signed up for. But from day one at the wedding something's been 'off' with Brandon. He did that passive/aggressive thing at the cake cutting. Again, others have said that Brandon had Taylor's number at the wedding. He either recognized her as a wannabe Instagram influencer or just realized what she was about early on. He seemed to be over her from day one. Taylor comes off as all innocent but the spoilers have said she often goes out clubbing with her friends and we know she made that post where she said she was single. So, she's no angel, either. She apparently has been trying to get on a number of reality TV shows, so again, not coming into the marriage with the best intentions. I don't know what Katie's problem was but I sure wish she'd stop drinking so much. That girl is a lush and it can't be good for her diabetes. Derek did seem a bit drunk and to me he did seem like he was flirting a bit with Taylor, but I could be wrong. Katie most definitely was jealous of the attention Derek was paying to Taylor, which is why she stomped off. It also didn't help that Taylor was singing Derek's praises, telling Katie how lucky she was to have been matched with Derek. Derek keeps trying but it's hard to understand what Katie wants. I don't think Katie herself knows what she wants. She wants Derek to pursue her, to pay her lots of attention, to manhandle her but she throws roadblocks in the way by constantly belittling him and calling him a dork and a loser. How he hasn't left her by now is anyone's guess? Oh and unlike Michael she has loads of self-esteem, which is good to a certain extent but she really thinks she's the cat's meow. Reminding Derek that she's quite the catch. I think she's got that backwards. She's a mean girl who's constantly belittling him. She thinks she is holding up the marriage? Is she kidding? What has she done exactly for Derek? He's gone out of his way for her, getting her concert tickets for her favorite band, the photo collages for their anniversary dinner...she gave him nothing and did nothing. Derek should say no on decision day but I don't think he will.
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Post by justCoz on Apr 4, 2020 0:04:24 GMT
The two hubbies who left (or tried to leave) have some mental health issues. Michael should never have been chosen for this show. He's a compulsive liar. I had a neighbor who was a compulsive liar (this was when we were children) and I was a bit older than her and even when I'd call her out on her lies, which were mostly implausible, she'd stick to her guns. Then when my sons were young, our neighbor's girl across the street was a compulsive liar. I wonder what causes some people to do that? In Michael's case, I think he has very poor self-esteem and lies to appear more successful or important but I don't know why he'd lie about the mileage on his car odometer. He's very strange. It's been talked about elsewhere that Brandon has a drinking problem. I don't know if he does or doesn't but he does have a short fuse. I can understand the frustration of filming but this is what he signed up for. But from day one at the wedding something's been 'off' with Brandon. He did that passive/aggressive thing at the cake cutting. Again, others have said that Brandon had Taylor's number at the wedding. He either recognized her as a wannabe Instagram influencer or just realized what she was about early on. He seemed to be over her from day one. Taylor comes off as all innocent but the spoilers have said she often goes out clubbing with her friends and we know she made that post where she said she was single. So, she's no angel, either. She apparently has been trying to get on a number of reality TV shows, so again, not coming into the marriage with the best intentions. I don't know what Katie's problem was but I sure wish she'd stop drinking so much. That girl is a lush and it can't be good for her diabetes. Derek did seem a bit drunk and to me he did seem like he was flirting a bit with Taylor, but I could be wrong. Katie most definitely was jealous of the attention Derek was paying to Taylor, which is why she stomped off. It also didn't help that Taylor was singing Derek's praises, telling Katie how lucky she was to have been matched with Derek. Derek keeps trying but it's hard to understand what Katie wants. I don't think Katie herself knows what she wants. She wants Derek to pursue her, to pay her lots of attention, to manhandle her but she throws roadblocks in the way by constantly belittling him and calling him a dork and a loser. How he hasn't left her by now is anyone's guess? Oh and unlike Michael she has loads of self-esteem, which is good to a certain extent but she really thinks she's the cat's meow. Reminding Derek that she's quite the catch. I think she's got that backwards. She's a mean girl who's constantly belittling him. She thinks she is holding up the marriage? Is she kidding? What has she done exactly for Derek? He's gone out of his way for her, getting her concert tickets for her favorite band, the photo collages for their anniversary dinner...she gave him nothing and did nothing. Derek should say no on decision day but I don't think he will. My mom worked for a compulsive liar and said the same as you are saying... even when you call them out on clear lies, they won't relent. He shouldn't have been cast. I agree that Taylor is no angel, and likely shouldn't have been cast either. Brandon definitely should not have signed up for this, or been cast. I was wondering myself what Katie thinks she's done, or what she wants. Derek told us that he added her to his insurance. That doesn't sound like someone who isn't all in. She calls him names constantly, why would he want to pursue her, or even flirt with her. Even on their trip to the weekend she was mean to him.
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Post by Navybelle on Apr 4, 2020 4:55:59 GMT
Oh yeah, and Brandon not unlocking the car doors was SO juvenile! He couldn't even use the excuse that he was drinking, because it was the next morning, and it was so stupid. He wouldn't let anyone in the car, and rolled the window up when someone tried talking to him, like a child would. Then he didn't trust Michael? Later, we hear that they did drop Brandon off at work which must have had something to do with a festival, after taking him home to change, so he must have trusted Michael eventually.
The night before, when he was crouching or bending down to be at the producer's level, was extremely rude and childish. He was begging for a fight, and was just a punk. I didn't figure out what all the beeped words were, to any of the producers. But then I didn't understand why Taylor decided to try to make him stay and talk, and trapped him in the bathroom to convince him even though he was yelling. On couple's couch, someone mentioned that there was more to her story of the night before, because out on the patio every time Brandon tried to bring up that this wasn't the first time, she'd get loud and try to talk over him. They thought for sure she was hiding something. Then she's the one who walked out and left him out there, and a little while later, she's begging him to talk it out in the bathroom. It seemed so weird. Does she get paid for how long they're on the show or something? She's acting like she just wants to "try" but not really try, just stay on the show basically.
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Post by provenceguy on Apr 4, 2020 16:13:48 GMT
I was afraid Brandon was going to hit Taylor when they were together in that small bathroom.
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Post by nicksmom on Apr 4, 2020 19:05:05 GMT
Those 2 are toxic. Taylor still doesn’t think she did anything wrong either sad.
First Michael said he had to get flowers why not do that before you left . Why does Meka keep saying she wants it to work same as Taylor.
I don’t want Derek to stay with Katie either . He shouldn’t have to change for her. Wasn’t he the one that did the flower petals and bubble bath.
Like someone said the alcohol didn’t help.
I sure hope Austin and Jessica make it. Laughed when he said his side of the bed was prettier or some like that after they both made the bed. She is a nurse so I’m sure she works 12 hour shifts nights and days so they will be a part.
Can’t wait to see what the families have to say. Wish the families got to watch first to see how it really went down.
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Post by amber on Apr 5, 2020 2:42:25 GMT
What bothers me about this season is that the couples that have already called it quits are being filmed pretending there is a chance to work things out when clearly there isn't.
For example, Meka is lying about caring about how Michael doesn't know how to behave as a husband. We already know she couldn't care less --- she's done, but she's pretending as if she cares. Michael is at least being honest about being disinterested in the relationship.
And then there's Taylor and Brandon. We're finally seeing Brandon's true self and what Taylor has had to put up with since the honeymoon. Clearly, the only difference between then and now is Brandon is being outed by production exposing the production crew's fourth wall. Like Meka and Michael, it's clear that Brandon and Taylor were over a long time ago.
Although there are those that seem to believe Taylor deserves to be shamed, she doesn't in my book. To shame her would be giving Brandon the benefit of the doubt which we should by now realize he doesn't deserve.
I agree with you, provenceguy. There is something seriously off about Brandon who appears to me as if he is a passive-aggressive abuser.
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Post by justCoz on Apr 11, 2020 21:51:07 GMT
Does Katie just not understand Derek? On top of being rude to him and saying he's a loser weirdo last week, this week when she asked him to be naked vulnerable (or whatever her phrase was) and as he was trying to tell her, she stopped him and told him to stop trying to think of pretty words. As someone with a somewhat poet's heart, my heart ached for Derek. Words mean things. I like to be precise with them, so it's not "trying to think of pretty words" but rather trying to find the exact words to convey what I exactly mean. What a stifling environment she creates and no wonder he's more open with others. He can be more himself with them. While I don't think his flirting with Taylor was his best move, it was easy to see how he is when he's allowed to be himself.
Surely Meka isn't seriously considering staying with Michael, is she?
What a strange time for Jess and Austin to be having conflict. I think they'll stay together, and I hope they do.
Eta: when Katie was complaining to her father that Derek is a child, I was thinking he appears to me to be more mature than she is.
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Post by amber on Apr 12, 2020 1:39:36 GMT
The ONLY thing for certain is that we are being led around and around by heavily edited storylines.
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Post by Critical on Apr 16, 2020 7:38:34 GMT
Well, really no surprises on decision day. Jess and Austin are solid, Katie and Derek are barely hanging on and the other three couples are dunzo. I won't be at all surprised if Katie and Derek are split up by the reunion special.
Worst job of matchmaking in the entire series I mean, we always have couples split up, but this is the first time when it's been pretty clear fairly early in the season that so many couples wouldn't work out.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Apr 16, 2020 13:22:26 GMT
And next season there will be 5 couples as well! It's too many. I guess my only surprise was that Meka and Michael were not on the same page as he wanted to stay married. If he felt so strongly that divorce was not an option, he should never have agreed to being MAFS. Perhaps he is Catholic and that's why he's seeking an annulment rather than a divorce. Brandon is seeking an annulment, too.
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Post by justCoz on Apr 16, 2020 15:46:59 GMT
Michael and Brandon both seem a bit delusional. I'm not saying they couldn't get an annulmannulment, but their reasoning seems a bit off. The producers didn't turn Michael into a liar nor make Brandon act like a bratty child. That was not in the editing. To be fair, Taylor was no saint and Meka seemed pretty harsh/stern (I can't think of the right word).
From the previews, I don't know why Derek would want to stay with Katie. It's obvious that she doesn't respect him. Although her words last night sounded like she did, I didn't really believe her.
I was proud of Mindy telling Zach that he didn't treat her right. She wasn't rude, just matter of fact.
MAFS has never had the best track record of matching people, and they don't seem to be getting any better.
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Post by nicksmom on Apr 16, 2020 17:27:10 GMT
I thought for sure Katie was going to say no after what she had said. Than to see on the previews for next week she cheats on him. I feel bad for him.
They also said there was dating among that group wonder who? I hope it isn’t Mindy and Zach again. But we all know how they make us think one thing and it isn’t that at all.
I’m happy for Austin and Jessica. They looked so happy. Wish they wouldn’t have pushed him about the love thing , when he said it almost missed it.
The other 2 couples we knew it wasn’t going to work but really Michael you didn’t see this coming. Loved Meke in pink.
Brandon was just terrible.
Do we get a couples couch on this show? I have to wait until Monday so don’t know.
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Post by justCoz on Apr 16, 2020 18:22:11 GMT
I thought for sure Katie was going to say no after what she had said. Than to see on the previews for next week she cheats on him. I feel bad for him. They also said there was dating among that group wonder who? I hope it isn’t Mindy and Zach again. But we all know how they make us think one thing and it isn’t that at all. I’m happy for Austin and Jessica. They looked so happy. Wish they wouldn’t have pushed him about the love thing , when he said it almost missed it. The other 2 couples we knew it wasn’t going to work but really Michael you didn’t see this coming. Loved Meke in pink. Brandon was just terrible. Do we get a couples couch on this show? I have to wait until Monday so don’t know. My DVR is showing a couples couch for tonight.
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Post by provenceguy on Apr 16, 2020 18:37:29 GMT
Can anyone post MAFs Fan's Instagram links for the new season preview and the reunion show preview? She says that they are available to everyone by clicking on her Instagram logo circle and that you don't have to have an Instagram account to view; however, I am still unable to access.
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Post by Critical on Apr 17, 2020 8:01:23 GMT
I could see it without logging into my Insta, so you should be able to see it too Weird. Earlier, it was a lot. Videos literally taken with a cell of the TV during last night's previews of the reunion and of next season. A few polls. A page from, I think, Katie's Insta showing someone shaming her for cheating, and her saying it's not cheating if you're broken up - that's probably the only interesting thing. Could be true, could be spin. The videos have since been removed. They're probably on YouTube. They're exactly what was shown after the episode last night. Literally. Filmed with a cell phone. Badly. What I'll say about the preview showing Derek talking about Katie cheating is that we should all know by now how manipulative the edit is with this show. I mean, did you catch how they edited Mindy last night in the previews vs. what she actually said? The preview made it seem like she said that breaking it off with Zach was a mistake, when what she really said was that marrying him in the first place was the mistake I don't believe anything until I see it on the episode. Re: the reunion preview - I can't imagine who, of the uncoupled people would have considered coupling up.....maybe Taylor and Zach? I can't imagine Meka finding either Brandon or Zach appealing in any way. Maybe Taylor and Derek if he and Katie broke up? I think Meka - who looked HOT last night, btw - is far too sensible for any of them men this season.
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Post by cavendish on Apr 20, 2020 22:57:14 GMT
I definitely noticed the manipulating of expectations. It seemed so heavy-handed that I started to question how coercive the producers, were. I felt that way this whole season. — for one thing the matches seemed really bad — it’s hard to believe that the therapists are picking people with this many issues — And matching these people, some of whom seemed not to have gotten along pretty much from day one— but who oddly stayed together for eight — or almost eight— weeks. Professing to want to make it work.
I suspect that mindy would never have stayed in the “marital” apartment without intense pressure from production. What was the point? — other than not having the show. Implode before 1/ 3 way through the season. I frankly thought that the attempted rehabilitation of Taylor also was a bunch of hokum. I guess they needed one of the two of Taylor/Brandon to be the “good guy” to make the show go on and Taylor was obviously more malleable —after all she’s got a lot of followers she doesn’t want to lose. Her incredible arrogance during the early talk with her friends seemed much more real t than all the sobbing and sniffling about “if only he wanted to give this a chance” (while “ brushing away the strands of hair that had fallen across her cheek...”— r I can’t believe pastor cal played along or is that out of the loop on the actual behavior of people on the show.
So I cut Brandon a whole lot of slack in his confrontation with the producers. After all he was being painted as the bad guy — which I’m sure he didn’t appreciate. Not that he handled things. In a mature way. And not that he had a clue what marriage is. Maybe he forgot that you actually have to live with another person. — sort of like Zach.
And while I’ve got no clue what michaels —or meka’s — problem was. — but that was another misbegotten pairing.
As for Katie and Derek. I couldn’t believe he was that accepting of her often scathing or dismissive attitude. But who knows? I really bristled at her tone Especially as her whole focus seemed to be that he needed to make her feel special and important. Did she think she was doing that for him?
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Post by mina on Apr 22, 2020 16:20:56 GMT
I feel like this season was really really long and too many unlikable people. I really don't know how they choose such duds; I guess the participants act a different way for their pre interviews. But the experts sort of suck at picking people. And was Dr. Pepper even on this season??? Katie is a piece of work and I feel like Derek is happy go lucky. I feel like he could do better and I was hoping he would divorce her. Micheal and Brandon should not have been chosen for this; Meka was grating and Taylor loved social media fame, but I feel that with guys that were not liars or not Brandon they could have been in a solid relationship. I think Mindy was in it for the right reasons, but was also landed with a dud.
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Post by Critical on Apr 22, 2020 21:57:24 GMT
I feel like this season was really really long and too many unlikable people. I really don't know how they choose such duds; I guess the participants act a different way for their pre interviews. But the experts sort of suck at picking people. And was Dr. Pepper even on this season??? Katie is a piece of work and I feel like Derek is happy go lucky. I feel like he could do better and I was hoping he would divorce her. Micheal and Brandon should not have been chosen for this; Meka was grating and Taylor loved social media fame, but I feel that with guys that were not liars or not Brandon they could have been in a solid relationship. I think Mindy was in it for the right reasons, but was also landed with a dud. Agreed. Even though I do like Austin and Jessica, I also don't love them. They're not on the level of couple I DO like/love like Ashley and Anthony or Doug and Jamie....or Shawniece and Jephte. Maybe their relationships were rocky at times, but they generally were all likeable and fun to watch. Jessica kept harping on the travel Austin does for his job, but never said what I think is the most important thing: She'd MISS him. IMO, saying that would have helped things immensely. And HE could have suggested Facetiming and other ways to stay in close contact while he's out of town. Her constantly harping on the same things wasn't helpful.
I think Katie thinks Derek is cute and maybe she enjoys having sex with him and getting his attention, but I don't think she actually respects him as a man or a person. Maybe in her mind, because he's a bit goofy and has a list of dreams, he's not also a grown man. I think SHE is the immature one.
Agreed about Meka too. While I do agree with her on a lot of points, I also think she's really abrasive and at times I can see why Michael reacted the way he did. I don't like feeling interrogated either. Don't think I'm letting him off the hook for his behavior, but looking at the type of person he is, I can see why he put up a wall with her. Maybe though, if she'd used a lighter touch with him, he would have taken that as a sign that she was a pushover and he would have just kept lying I DO really like Mindy this season. I think she got dealt the worst hand. The experts really screwed her over. If Zach was super charming and intelligent, I'd understand why the experts got taken in, but he's neither of those things. The second he talks for a few minutes, it's obvious that he's full of crap. How could none of them see that? As for Brandon and Taylor, they're a waste of time, both for me to discuss AND on this show
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Post by Critical on Apr 23, 2020 8:33:10 GMT
I'm watching the reunion show right now, after having read spoilers about it. I just realized one of the things I find creepy about Michael is his monotone voice. I can imagine getting upset with him and being met with that dull monotone and just losing it. Like talking to a robot. I love that Kevin didn't let Zach off the hook....he didn't let any of them off the hook really. The show's "experts" could take a lesson. I don't know how he got a haircut in the midst of this stay-at-home situation, but Austin revealed a new 'do on his Insta. He looks like a grown man now! www.instagram.com/ahurd103/?hl=enLooks like Lifetime is running out of programming. They're airing one of the Australian seasons of the show starting next month. I've heard that version is even more bonkers than the US one.
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Post by nicksmom on Apr 23, 2020 13:11:42 GMT
So glad Derek finally got his voice, she was mad at the end. Go enjoy your dreams now. Hope he finds someone soon he deserves it, she couldn’t even come up with something she did for him the whole time. All the things she said was for her. Moving into their new home only lasted 2 weeks that’s sad. Than for her to out with Zach.
The whole Brandon thing was weird. What was Taylor doing that she didn’t want her picture taken. I was with Michael for a change he is not Brandon and shouldn’t have to talk for him or attacked for his opinion on what happened.
Not sure why Mindy’s friend had to come on that was a waste of time and she sure didn’t look comfortable sitting in that chair. Speaking of that chair it made her look huge propped on it for some reason.
Glad Jessica and Austin are still together, nice to see them holding hands or with their hand on each other’s knee. Only thing with Jessica is she doesn’t get to excited, or she knew about the ring. It was a very nice ring too good job Austin. She wasn’t that emotional either on the final day either when he said he loved her too.
Here in Canada didn’t get previews for the Australia one but did see the New Orleans one.
All the shows are ending need something to what .
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Post by provenceguy on Apr 23, 2020 16:46:42 GMT
Per Austin's Instagram, he got a short haircut!
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Post by justCoz on Apr 23, 2020 17:40:08 GMT
I liked Kevin calling it like he saw it, probably because what he was saying was mostly was I was thinking! Good for Derek for not backing down. Deciding to just be friends but still supposedly working on it does not give Katie a good excuse for cheating on him. It was obvious that she was only ever about herself. I agree nicksmom that all that she mentioned were not things she did for him. She sure thinks a lot of herself. I hate to see marriages end, but I think Derek deserves someone much better than she is. Despite all her protestations about how different Derek was off camera, her own behavior on camera showed who she is. She's someone who calls her husband names, and belittles him consistently. Why would he want to pursue someone who treats him that way? Despite that, he's the person in that relationship that seemed to at least be trying a little bit to make it work. I understood Michael's point that he couldn't speak for Brandon, but I didn't think it was bad that they asked him for Brandon's side of the story. I did like Kevin telling Michael that this wasn't about them portraying black men as bad, that Brandon's behavior was what was bad. That's what I was thinking, but not being a black man, I can't speak to what that looks like. Since I never thought that was the agenda of the show, I was glad that Kevin said it was Brandon's own behavior. No one ever made Brandon verbally attack the rest of the cast or crew. Brandon himself was the one making himself late to work by locking the car door. He was so childish, throwing his temper tantrums. As much as I realize that Taylor isn't an angel, her story from the bar sounded credible, because it sounded almost exactly like how he acted on camera in the weekend house. I didn't mention it last week, but I found Michael's statement about his lying so interesting. To me, he sounded like he doesn't find a problem with lying, but should have realized that his wife wouldn't want him to do it. Ya think?! I did not get the impression that he now realizes that honesty is the way to be in life. I thought he was saying he should have changed in this circumstance, but doesn't intend to carry that through other parts of his life. Mindy deserved better. So glad to see Jessica and Austin as the one success this season.
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Post by Critical on Apr 24, 2020 21:06:55 GMT
I'm watching Couples Couch right now and it is SO much better than the actual episode. My favorite couples were back to talk smack - Doug & Jamie, Anthony & Ashley, Shawniece & Jephte, and Jamie & Elizabeth. The more I watch Katie, the more I wonder what the big fuss is about her. If she was stunningly gorgeous, maybe she'd be getting a bit of a pass, but she's not. If she was sweet and funny and smart (or ANY combination of the three), maybe she'd get bit of a pass, but she's none of those things. She's completely unappealing, IMO. If she had some positive qualities, maybe I'd understand why they picked her. Mindy's real reaction to Zach and Katie having drinks SO much for "girl code," right, Katie? If they do another season of Second Chances, it needs to include Mindy. Of ALL the people this season, she got screwed over the most by the experts. Like someone (Jamie?) said during Couples Couch, Mindy was the most mature adult there. Total class act.
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Post by justCoz on Apr 24, 2020 21:31:08 GMT
I'm watching Couples Couch right now and it is SO much better than the actual episode. My favorite couples were back to talk smack - Doug & Jamie, Anthony & Ashley, Shawniece & Jephte, and Jamie & Elizabeth. The more I watch Katie, the more I wonder what the big fuss is about her. If she was stunningly gorgeous, maybe she'd be getting a bit of a pass, but she's not. If she was sweet and funny and smart (or ANY combination of the three), maybe she'd get bit of a pass, but she's none of those things. She's completely unappealing, IMO. If she had some positive qualities, maybe I'd understand why they picked her. Mindy's real reaction to Zach and Katie having drinks SO much for "girl code," right, Katie? If they do another season of Second Chances, it needs to include Mindy. Of ALL the people this season, she got screwed over the most by the experts. Like someone (Jamie?) said during Couples Couch, Mindy was the most mature adult there. Total class act. I watched it last night. I loved that they weren't holding back in their opinions! Eta: it is so interesting to learn that Jamie and Doug didn't say "I love you" for six months. They all have such a unique position from which they offer their critiques or encouragements by way of their comments. Interesting too, Jephte's take on Meka needing an alpha male. I don't think he's wrong, even if she definitely didn't need a liar!
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Post by Navybelle on Apr 25, 2020 5:50:49 GMT
I'm watching Couples Couch right now and it is SO much better than the actual episode. My favorite couples were back to talk smack - Doug & Jamie, Anthony & Ashley, Shawniece & Jephte, and Jamie & Elizabeth. The more I watch Katie, the more I wonder what the big fuss is about her. If she was stunningly gorgeous, maybe she'd be getting a bit of a pass, but she's not. If she was sweet and funny and smart (or ANY combination of the three), maybe she'd get bit of a pass, but she's none of those things. She's completely unappealing, IMO. If she had some positive qualities, maybe I'd understand why they picked her. Mindy's real reaction to Zach and Katie having drinks SO much for "girl code," right, Katie? If they do another season of Second Chances, it needs to include Mindy. Of ALL the people this season, she got screwed over the most by the experts. Like someone (Jamie?) said during Couples Couch, Mindy was the most mature adult there. Total class act. Ugh, I couldn't agree more about Katie. I can't stand her attitude, and as you said, she showed no redeeming qualities. She was horrible to Derek, slept with that other guy just for kicks, and then went out with Zach? I'm so glad Derek told us how she met up with him beforehand to tell him not to say anything about her affair. Which she then tried to deny, then by defending it just admitted it. I can't believe she's in a "helping" profession, because she is all about herself. She wanted him to win her over? She never reciprocated any of the things she said she wanted Derek to do. Oh, but she initiated every physical contact they had! Except when they agreed to be friends and he'd try to get close to her in bed, initiating something, then she went to separate bedrooms. She's horrible. No wonder she's still single. And Brandon too! He's a hot head, rude, disrespectful guy who's immature as heck. He should be able to handle it if Taylor shows up at a bar he's at, even if she is making out with a guy -- because they're NOT married anymore! He said she pushed him, which she didn't address, but she could only push him if he got close enough to her - and he shouldn't have. If it bothered him to see her w/someone, he could've left, or turned his back. She's a piece of work, too, but he's just off the charts bad. I enjoyed watching Couple's Couch too, hoping they'd say some of the same things I was thinking. And mostly, they did. Kevin did a good job with the hard/direct questions too. Anyway, so glad this season is over. Hopefully we'll get some nice southern manners on the New Orleans season. ( - kidding!).
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Post by Critical on Apr 25, 2020 7:28:36 GMT
From episode one, my mom and I talked about how creepy and almost menacing Brandon could be. Even in the wedding episode, a look would cross his face that was just off. Taylor was no prize either, but I think she would have done fine with a different guy.
Like I said, Taylor is shady, but I believe her story about the confrontation at the bar. I TOTALLY believe that Brandon would whip out his phone and start filming her/taking pictures. I can even hear him mocking her while doing it.
I think the biggest failing of this show is that they're recruiting more and more of the participants instead of casting people who apply to be on the show. I think I read somewhere that only Mindy and Jessica weren't recruited this season. If that's true, then things make a lot more sense. I think Zach and maybe Taylor were recruited on Instagram. I remember a story from one of the guys about how he went to meet a woman for what he thought was a date and she was a recruiter for this show. Can't remember which guy it was.
What they need to do to save this show from becoming an even bigger dumpster fire is to actually cast people who apply to be on the show because they want to get married, instead of casting people based on their Insta page. Casting for drama is kind of tradition on reality TV, but it's pretty scummy to do it when the people cast are actually going to get married.
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Post by provenceguy on Apr 25, 2020 16:23:29 GMT
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Post by coco46 on Apr 25, 2020 16:31:58 GMT
Micheal, Brandon and even Taylor go without saying that they were no prizes and should not have gone on the show. The couple I had hopes for were Derek and Katie for just a very brief moment and then I saw her true self. I would say that she is the one I despise the most this season. She is truly a narcissist and I predict she will never find a mate. I am so happy that Jessica and Austin made it, but really had no doubts. As much as I hated Zach's behavior with Mindy, I found him to be so laughable each time he opened his mouth. Honestly, he is another person who will never find a mate, as he is also a narcissist IMO. I am glad Mindy is such a strong person and saw through his BS. My favorite person of all time is Mindy and I wish her a wonderful future relationship, but not on this show.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Apr 25, 2020 17:21:21 GMT
Thanks for sharing this, provenceguy. Very good interview! Yeah, even a blind man could have seen Michael never intended to follow through with that Ocho Rios trip. As the article said he only purchased the Groupon for the swim and never bought plane tickets or a hotel reservation. He probably was reimbursed for the Groupon. Oy! Meka deserved better!
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Post by annifran on Apr 30, 2020 16:35:30 GMT
I really enjoyed the "Where Are They Now" episode this week. It was nice seeing the couples (and who's uncoupled) from previous seasons and how/what they're doing now. A few I didn't even recognize as they've changed over the passage of time. Hope the producers continue the "Where" versions. The MAFS episodes are my favorites, more so than 90 Day Fiance.
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