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Post by Imperfect1 on Feb 28, 2022 5:14:32 GMT
...I believe that the casting is done for "good tv" rather than any attempt to find great couples. Totally agree, downsey! What the this show doesn't realize though, is that "good tv" includes having couples with great relationships that lead to happy marriages! We have soooo many fighting couples on other reality shows. It would be great if each season of this show included, at least some happy endings!
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Post by coco46 on Mar 1, 2022 15:05:16 GMT
Wish I could witness the reaction of Alyssa's friend when she saw all the episodes of Alyssa's "talks" with Chris where she gave him a "chance" to have his say. The friend maligned Chris even though she had never met him and took her lying friend's word.
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Post by justCoz on Mar 1, 2022 22:03:57 GMT
She must have ticked off the producers something fierce. They didn't just run over her wth the bus they backed it up a few times and then ran over her again and again! I wonder what Alyssa thinks seeing her conversations with friends/family and then the reality from what she actually said and did. Oh, I know, she's a "good person". I sincerely hope she can take a good look at herself after this and change for the better like Sam did several years ago.
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Post by cavendish on Mar 3, 2022 7:10:32 GMT
I dislike olajawan’s attitude toward katina.— he sets his way of doing things as “the” way things are done. The fact that she does things her way doesn’t mean she’s a baby or doesn’t live up to his standards. She seems to have done fine before she met him. And the fact that she buys into this attitude that she has to live up to his standards is kind of sad. I don’t accept the idea that it’s up to her to change to obey him and meet his demands. I would not live my life according to someone requirements — my life is mine. And if I for example want to pick up the next morning or go out to eat. — I will. Unless we agree to compromise— but that’s a whole different thing
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Post by downsey on Mar 3, 2022 14:45:32 GMT
Whenever Olajuwon says the word "my wife" I feel like he is referring to an employee. Whenever he talks about "my wife" I think he is grading an employee. When he talks to Katina, it seems to be a job review. How did she not tell him to F#$K Off? Has anyone asked Olajuwon what year it is? The entire discussion they had at the end of the episode seemed like a Boss letting an Employee know that her job was in jeopardy. He's very stuck in what he thinks are gender roles. If I talked that way to any woman I've dated I'd have been set straight immediately lol
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Post by nicksmom on Mar 3, 2022 23:19:11 GMT
I feel like we are just on repeat with this show…. I didn’t even make it to the end last night and finished watching it today.
Felt bad for Michael. He even asked her how he change but she said he was taken a tone. He was so excited about the dog gifts too. The story of his brother was heart breaking.
Katina run, what does he mean she needs to learn to be woman, wife. She works and took care of herself before he was in the picture. Plus all this testing her needs to stop. Do we ever hear her say what she needs him to do to be a good husband.
Noi and Steve. I think it’s to early to say I Love You. What does he do all day since he doesn’t have a job I wonder.
Lindsey and Mark have the same conversation. Was nice she took him to the cages though but mean on the sushi knowing he doesn’t like it.
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Post by justCoz on Mar 4, 2022 0:00:46 GMT
I think Katina should run and run fast. I thought it was interesting that Cal said that was not one of his non-negotiables but he sure is acting like it was. He's way too overbearing and demanding. I'd have to get myself out of there, and not cater to his exacting standards. It's a slippery slope. If he is acting that way in front of the cameras what's he saying when they're not there?
I felt bad for Michael this episode but know he's done things that aren't cool too. I think their personalities don't quite mesh.
Steve and Noi are sweet. I was thinking it was pretty quick to say I love you to each other but then I remembered that my husband said that to me after 6 days of dating, and our 30th anniversary is approaching soon. When you know, you know!
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Post by Critical on Mar 10, 2022 0:33:43 GMT
I think Katina should run and run fast. I thought it was interesting that Cal said that was not one of his non-negotiables but he sure is acting like it was. He's way too overbearing and demanding. I'd have to get myself out of there, and not cater to his exacting standards. It's a slippery slope. If he is acting that way in front of the cameras what's he saying when they're not there? I felt bad for Michael this episode but know he's done things that aren't cool too. I think their personalities don't quite mesh. Steve and Noi are sweet. I was thinking it was pretty quick to say I love you to each other but then I remembered that my husband said that to me after 6 days of dating, and our 30th anniversary is approaching soon. When you know, you know! Agreed about Katina. That's some abuser behavior right there and I know the term is used freely a lot lately, but I think he's gaslighting her. Did anyone else catch his, "MY housewarming"? WTF? I need Pastor Cal to get in there PDQ and straighten that out. He's got an awfully high opinion of himself.
It's surprising that Katina is so meek with him, but so vocal and nasty with Lindsay. That's not to say that Lindsay doesn't deserve to be called out, but it's such a difference in behavior between a relationship that really doesn't matter and one that's serious.
Jasmina is so incapable of adult communication. She seems to speak to Michael like he's one of her students. There's nothing wrong with asking about her communication methods/preferences. That's being thoughtful and respectful. Instead of giving him a real answer, she just talks down to him.
A little spoiler from MAFSFan: {Spoiler} We might be getting a new expert, if not in the next season (which is already filming), but the one after that. She says that Dr. Viviana is on her way out. She also says that the three couples she said would say yes on DD do say yes. Of the remaining couples, only Michael and Jasmina say no. No word on the status of all couples now, although IIRC, she did say that Steve and Noi are still together.
Oh, and Sam Role (season 3, who was matched with Neil) just gave birth to twin girls.
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Post by justCoz on Mar 10, 2022 5:37:54 GMT
I think Katina should run and run fast. I thought it was interesting that Cal said that was not one of his non-negotiables but he sure is acting like it was. He's way too overbearing and demanding. I'd have to get myself out of there, and not cater to his exacting standards. It's a slippery slope. If he is acting that way in front of the cameras what's he saying when they're not there? I felt bad for Michael this episode but know he's done things that aren't cool too. I think their personalities don't quite mesh. Steve and Noi are sweet. I was thinking it was pretty quick to say I love you to each other but then I remembered that my husband said that to me after 6 days of dating, and our 30th anniversary is approaching soon. When you know, you know! Agreed about Katina. That's some abuser behavior right there and I know the term is used freely a lot lately, but I think he's gaslighting her. Did anyone else catch his, "MY housewarming"? WTF? I need Pastor Cal to get in there PDQ and straighten that out. He's got an awfully high opinion of himself.
It's surprising that Katina is so meek with him, but so vocal and nasty with Lindsay. That's not to say that Lindsay doesn't deserve to be called out, but it's such a difference in behavior between a relationship that really doesn't matter and one that's serious.
Jasmina is so incapable of adult communication. She seems to speak to Michael like he's one of her students. There's nothing wrong with asking about her communication methods/preferences. That's being thoughtful and respectful. Instead of giving him a real answer, she just talks down to him.
A little spoiler from MAFSFan: {Spoiler} We might be getting a new expert, if not in the next season (which is already filming), but the one after that. She says that Dr. Viviana is on her way out. She also says that the three couples she said would say yes on DD do say yes. Of the remaining couples, only Michael and Jasmina say no. No word on the status of all couples now, although IIRC, she did say that Steve and Noi are still together.
Oh, and Sam Role (season 3, who was matched with Neil) just gave birth to twin girls.
I agree! Jasmina is acting like Michael is the one with communication issues but she pretty consistently is putting him down and/or talking over him. I was surprised that she didn't realize that when she was laughing about the story from when he was six she didn't realize he doesn't think it's funny, nor a laughing matter. At least from what they showed us. Also surprising was finding out that Lindsay and O (don't know the spelling for his full name) seem to be quite friendly having their chats every day.
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Post by Critical on Mar 10, 2022 5:49:32 GMT
Jasmina seems to think MICHAEL needs to do work, but she doesn't. HE should do the journaling exercise, but she doesn't need to. Like she's so perfect I'm amazed he's been able to actually NOT yell at her, or even raise his voice, even though she seems to think he yells at her all the time. She's lucky he's a pretty mellow guy. So excited to see Kevin, one of the hosts of The Bald and the Beautiful, on the Afterparty tonight! I love them! I like that Viviana called out Lindsay for how she speaks to Mark. I think it comes from a place of insecurity, but she needs to knock it off or he's going to leave. I know I wouldn't put up with anyone speaking to me that way, regardless of the reason.
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Post by provenceguy on Mar 10, 2022 16:12:10 GMT
MAFS Fan says that Dr. Viviana has been replaced on the new season coming up.
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Post by coco46 on Mar 14, 2022 16:52:50 GMT
MAFS Fan says that Dr. Viviana has been replaced on the new season coming up. I don't blame her if it was her idea. She saw a sinking ship in this show.
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Post by provenceguy on Mar 15, 2022 15:32:36 GMT
Interesting that the psychologist/relationship expert role is the one that keeps getting replaced every couple of years.
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Post by nicksmom on Mar 18, 2022 1:00:22 GMT
Don’t know if it is the people.this time around but tend to watch the next night . I’m bored with these people.
That whole dinner party conversation was weird. Does O have to find something to complain about. He didn’t even let her talk and to mention it at the table with the others was just wrong. Better yet why was he looking at her phone.
Have no idea what is going on with Michael and Jasmina. He seems to be really trying and she seems to like all the attention. This couple isn’t going to make it for sure.
I would be surprised if any do…lol
Chris spotting again with Mark. Alyssa will be mad…lol
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Post by Critical on Mar 30, 2022 1:08:09 GMT
Maybe it's just cumulative exhaustion over the train wrecks of the last few seasons, but I'm so over this bunch of people. I don't find ANY of them very likeable. Maybe Steve? I want to like Noi, but then she'll say something really rude to Steve and I go back to thinking she's a jerk. OH, CHRIS! Chris was nice. I liked him.
In past seasons, even when the couples didn't stay together, there weren't a ton of just awful, rude people. There have always been a few in each season that we could all hate watch, but lately, they're ALL awful. I guess if any of them stay together, they get what they deserve.
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Post by Ellabella on Mar 31, 2022 16:36:30 GMT
I only watch the After Party.
That is all the information I want anymore.
I'm so disappointed the way this show is going.
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Post by downsey on Mar 31, 2022 16:46:24 GMT
completely agree. New Orleans seemed like a mistake on the producers part...I liked almost all of them. I'm convinced that "the powers" had a meeting 6 or 7 seasons ago, around a table and declared that the uncomfortable pairings were ratings gold. "Let's get people together that will hate each other by the end". Maybe I'm an outlier but I liked to like couples.
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Post by nicksmom on Mar 31, 2022 21:50:37 GMT
Not sure if it is these couples or what but haven’t even been watching it all the night it’s on.
That is some neck tattoo O got, must have been after filming.
Really can’t believe any of them would stay together.
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Post by cavendish on Apr 4, 2022 17:35:40 GMT
The neck tattoo 😵💫—what was he thinking??? I can’t even see his face any more over that piece of arcana.
He can’t possibly be with katina ( or is it jasmine ?).
I really feel sorry for Michael. He seems less and less attractive every week, but that sourpuss he’s with should really does always look as if she’s eaten something vaguely disgusting.
Poor Steve. He seems like a well meaning but somewhat untethered guy. I feel like he wants to float through life with the least effort as long as it doesn’t get too tough. He and noi seem misnpmatched to me. I don’t find myself liking noi although I don’t know why. She just seems somehow rigid and narrow.
I guess I just can’t figure out what any of these people are looking for—. Although it seems pretty clear that it’s not the person they’re with.
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Post by Ellabella on Apr 5, 2022 19:37:05 GMT
The neck tattoo 😵💫—what was he thinking??? I can’t even see his face any more over that piece of arcana. He can’t possibly be with katina ( or is it jasmine ?). I really feel sorry for Michael. He seems less and less attractive every week, but that sourpuss he’s with should really does always look as if she’s eaten something vaguely disgusting. Poor Steve. He seems like a well meaning but somewhat untethered guy. I feel like he wants to float through life with the least effort as long as it doesn’t get too tough. He and noi seem misnpmatched to me. I don’t find myself liking noi although I don’t know why. She just seems somehow rigid and narrow. I guess I just can’t figure out what any of these people are looking for—. Although it seems pretty clear that it’s not the person they’re with. Same here !
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Post by var1117 on Apr 9, 2022 0:33:09 GMT
I do not, for one second, believe that Steve has not explained to Noi that he is a freelancer, for which he is paid very well. Their "story" paints her as unable to understand this, which I doubt. Lindsay is just too much and Mark needs counseling as well. O and Katina are still in 'party" mode. O is too demanding. He's not perfect either. Still a player. The dating app on Katina's phone was not a big deal, but sure evokes the guy from last season, who was actually active during the show. I really can't say I like any of them this season. If I hear Jasmina say one more time that she feels nothing for her husband, I will scream. Ok end of rant. Decision Day is gonna be interesting.
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Post by provenceguy on Apr 9, 2022 0:55:46 GMT
Lindsay talks like someone who has had years of therapy and has read every self-help book on the shelf and has the lingo and the buzzwords to prove it.
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Post by justCoz on Apr 9, 2022 14:13:09 GMT
I would find it hard to believe to var1117 except for I've met someone like her in real life. My in-laws used to flip houses for their living. My brother-in-law dated a girl who could not understand the concept. It didn't seem like stable enough income to her. This was obviously long before so many people had TV shows about it. She literally asked him how they got paid. When he explained that it was after they sold a house that was just too long a timeframe, and not a steady enough income. She could not grasp entrepreneurship. If the things she was saying her parents asked about it were to be believed it was obvious the apple didn't fall far from the tree. But yes, it stretches the imagination to believe Noi can't grasp that he makes more money being a freelancer than he does as an employee. Most of the people aren't that likeable this season, are they? Interestingly they seem to have forged very strong friendships. Lindsay and O seem to become friends up on the roof. On the after party show the guys were sure protective of O regarding what Dr Pepper said to him. I wish they hadn't let him get away with talking so poorly about Dr Pepper because she was not wrong about how he had said demeaning things to Katina.
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Post by Critical on Apr 11, 2022 1:48:07 GMT
Yeah, Olajuwon's neck tattoo is just gross. I'm not a huge fan of neck tattoos as a rule, at least not huge ones, but that one is distracting. And dark. As he gets older and the ink naturally gets more blurry as his skin ages, it's going to look terrible.
That look on O's face when Dr. Pepper and Pastor Cal appeared when he was talking shi!t about Dr. Pepper was delicious! He knew he'd was busted. Clearly, he thinks he's done nothing wrong in his relationship and has nothing to work on, so he wants the experts to "fix" Katina. It's like when a husband makes his wife go to couples therapy anticipating that the therapist will tell the wife she's wrong....and then he finds out that isn't going to happen. Katina isn't perfect, but he' just SO arrogant.
I don't know why they met with each spouse separately, or at least ONLY separately. IMO, they should have also had them meet with an expert together. Mark and Lindsay might be okay if they can learn how to communicate, but at this point, they just can't stop pushing each others buttons and lashing out.
I understand why Noi feels the way she does about Steve not having a "regular" job, but it's still really annoying that she seems to think he's a deadbeat. On the Afterparty, he made a comment about Noi wanting him to have $40K in savings before she would feel okay and it sounds like he's got at least that. He's clearly employable and could likely get a job whenever he wants. I understand her money stresses, but she needs to relax a bit. They're not going to end up destitute.
Poor Michael. I don't think Jasmina really gave him a chance.
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Post by Punkin on Apr 11, 2022 2:12:07 GMT
Lindsay talks like someone who has had years of therapy and has read every self-help book on the shelf and has the lingo and the buzzwords to prove it. And yet, sadly, hasn't benefited from any insight to keep her from sabotaging her relationships. I feel for her, she's irrepressible, but she is overly much to take on. Mark the Shark is out of his pay grade here! She may just need to stick with cats. They don't mind crazy at all.
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Post by provenceguy on Apr 14, 2022 23:10:31 GMT
Anyone know the name of the retreat rental in last night's episode?
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Apr 15, 2022 0:29:02 GMT
Anyone know the name of the retreat rental in last night's episode? I already deleted the episode, so I can't watch again, but they did flash a sign that said "Peru, Vermont." I checked online for vacation rentals in the area but there are a lot to wade through. It had at least 4 bedrooms and it did have a hot tub.
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Post by Critical on Apr 15, 2022 3:05:25 GMT
I'd guess MAFS Fan has it somewhere in her Insta stories. She usually knows stuff like that
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Post by provenceguy on Apr 15, 2022 3:33:09 GMT
Thanks, guys!
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Post by cavendish on Apr 16, 2022 8:46:25 GMT
I didn’t like the snark and disrespect the host of the after party showed toward Lindsey.this week And also the special guest. (I have no idea who that woman was or why she was invited onto the show— maybe the newlyweds don’t feel like participating which I can understand. But she had nothing to contribute)
I find myself kind of liking Lindsey for some reason even if she is “difficult ”— or as everyone falls back on “a lot”. I feel for her. I don’t think mark has for one minute really thought of or tried to be a husband. I get the feeling he’s never gotten out of the “shea s lot” phase And I suspect he is pretty inconsistent — which probably does really hurt her. He acts l Ike. He was hit in the head by a heavy object on day one and has never quite gotten his wits back. It’s probably a huge stretch for him to cope with her intensity and reactivity. And I do think he’s not a bad guy. I justthink he’s in way over his head and has no idea how to be in a serious relationship.
I don’t think he should be sitting around making snide comment s about her and letting the others do so in his presence. I Have not once seen him say or indicate —or defend or reach out when she’s hurt or feels put down.
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