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Post by acookertv on Mar 25, 2020 16:48:52 GMT
William's comment came while he was in Ireland, when all of this was on the horizon. In his capacity, this was a dangerous comment for him to make. As you said, it was on the horizon and most people didn't realize how seriously it was. Had he given a very somber and serious response, he'd likely be criticized for fanning fears. I don't think the comment he made was all that different from what most people would have said at that time. I'll jump on the band wagon with those forgiving him for it and leaving some room for understanding.
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Post by AZChristian on Mar 25, 2020 16:54:16 GMT
How many of us have said something that later turned out to be really tacky in a different context? Let's judge William the way we'd want others to judge us.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 25, 2020 16:55:13 GMT
I'm judging him as someone who said something he shouldn't have when tons of people were already dying.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 25, 2020 18:39:54 GMT
I'm judging him as someone who said something he shouldn't have when tons of people were already dying. He made an error, hands up who hasn't..mine remains down.
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Post by dagwood on Mar 25, 2020 19:23:31 GMT
I was not a fan of Charles until Diana passed and the way he was with the boys showed who he truly was. I wish him a speedy recovery. Hopefully his symptoms remain minor.
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Post by MissScarlet on Mar 25, 2020 19:30:56 GMT
He opened his mouth & stupid fell out. We've all done it.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 25, 2020 20:01:24 GMT
Just to clarify - my initial comment was "...I did feel uncomfortable when William attempted to make light of COVID-19. He's typically not callous or unprofessional so I was surprised that he went there." And my next comment was, "The most concerning part in this situation now is that last sentence..." which was in reference to "It is not possible to ascertain from whom the Prince caught the virus owing to the high number of engagements he carried out in his public role during recent weeks.” And I stand by my thought that his words were dangerous because he has a following, pure and simple. I see nothing harsh about anything I've said so to be reading the whole 'let him who is without sin cast the first stone' just seems a bit much to me.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 25, 2020 20:25:42 GMT
He opened his mouth & stupid fell out. We've all done it. Exactly, it happens..
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 25, 2020 20:34:14 GMT
I was not a fan of Charles until Diana passed and the way he was with the boys showed who he truly was. I wish him a speedy recovery. Hopefully his symptoms remain minor. He was at the same engagement, as Prince Albert of Monaco. I wonder if that's where he caught it.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 25, 2020 23:22:23 GMT
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Post by Kao on Mar 26, 2020 1:56:07 GMT
I'm judging him as someone who said something he shouldn't have when tons of people were already dying. It was pretty serious in Asia already where people were dropping like flies. The lack of empathy or just plain common decency towards people that live far away/don't look like you is disgusting, but unfortunately what seems to be the case for a lot of people is it's all a big joke until it happens on your doorstep to people you know and care about.
Either way, I'm sure Prince Charles will be given the best of care. He's very spry for a 70 year old and doesn't appear to have any underlying conditions. He'll be alright.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 26, 2020 11:44:44 GMT
William's comment came while he was in Ireland, when all of this was on the horizon. In his capacity, this was a dangerous comment for him to make. As you said, it was on the horizon and most people didn't realize how seriously it was. Had he given a very somber and serious response, he'd likely be criticized for fanning fears. I don't think the comment he made was all that different from what most people would have said at that time. I'll jump on the band wagon with those forgiving him for it and leaving some room for understanding. I forgave him by only saying his comment was callous and unprofessional. To go any further than that is to give him a free pass. He's 2nd in line to the throne. When you're 2nd in line to the throne you are have to do better. The information was at his disposal March 4, 2020 WHO Statistics
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Post by acookertv on Mar 26, 2020 12:35:20 GMT
As you said, it was on the horizon and most people didn't realize how seriously it was. Had he given a very somber and serious response, he'd likely be criticized for fanning fears. I don't think the comment he made was all that different from what most people would have said at that time. I'll jump on the band wagon with those forgiving him for it and leaving some room for understanding. I forgave him by only saying his comment was callous and unprofessional. To go any further than that is to give him a free pass. He's 2nd in line to the throne. When you're 2nd in line to the throne you are have to do better. The information was at his disposal March 4, 2020 WHO Statistics We don't share the same view on humor, and that's okay. I"m not going to belabor the point. We simply see it different ways.
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Post by MissGriss on Mar 26, 2020 19:51:58 GMT
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Post by AZChristian on Mar 26, 2020 20:38:31 GMT
I did read one article about how Meghan has forbidden Harry to do any international travel until things are safer. It's one of the few times I've ever agreed with her. His responsibility is to his wife and son. He can (and does) speak to Charles via video chat, and apparently the brothers have both spoken with him and each other on video chats. They even mentioned that Charles' exposure has brought them closer together again.
There's a silver lining for them behind the cloud.
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Post by acookertv on Mar 26, 2020 20:59:54 GMT
I did read one article about how Meghan has forbidden Harry to do any international travel until things are safer. It's one of the few times I've ever agreed with her. His responsibility is to his wife and son. He can (and does) speak to Charles via video chat, and apparently the brothers have both spoken with him and each other on video chats. They even mentioned that Charles' exposure has brought them closer together again. There's a silver lining for them behind the cloud. I saw an article about that too AZC, and I have to say it baffled me! While I do think that Harry could get an exemption to travel right now - he's gotta know people in high places to approve it - I think there's a lot more than Meghan keeping him from doing it right now! Family members of people who've been diagnosed are not rushing to their bedsides. So trying to make anything of Harry remaining in Canada right now seems to be looking for drama instead of a real story.
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Post by AZChristian on Mar 26, 2020 21:26:30 GMT
I did read one article about how Meghan has forbidden Harry to do any international travel until things are safer. It's one of the few times I've ever agreed with her. His responsibility is to his wife and son. He can (and does) speak to Charles via video chat, and apparently the brothers have both spoken with him and each other on video chats. They even mentioned that Charles' exposure has brought them closer together again. There's a silver lining for them behind the cloud. I saw an article about that too AZC, and I have to say it baffled me! While I do think that Harry could get an exemption to travel right now - he's gotta know people in high places to approve it - I think there's a lot more than Meghan keeping him from doing it right now! Family members of people who've been diagnosed are not rushing to their bedsides. So trying to make anything of Harry remaining in Canada right now seems to be looking for drama instead of a real story. Apparently, it's not impossible. Found this on an official site: Return to the UK If you live in the UK and are currently travelling abroad, you are strongly advised to return now, where and while there are still commercial routes available. Many airlines are suspending flights and many airports are closing, preventing flights from leaving. Only the following airports are operating international flights: Toronto Pearson (YYZ); Montreal Pierre Elliott Trudeau (YUL); Calgary International Airport (YYC); and Vancouver International Airport (YVR). He could probably have pulled some strings to fly out of Vancouver.
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Post by ccl on Mar 26, 2020 22:13:01 GMT
He wouldn’t have needed an exemption or strings pulled as there are still regular flights to the UK from Canada. But, anyways, reports are that they’ve now moved to California so it’s moot.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Mar 27, 2020 8:53:15 GMT
I saw an article about that too AZC, and I have to say it baffled me! While I do think that Harry could get an exemption to travel right now - he's gotta know people in high places to approve it - I think there's a lot more than Meghan keeping him from doing it right now! Family members of people who've been diagnosed are not rushing to their bedsides. So trying to make anything of Harry remaining in Canada right now seems to be looking for drama instead of a real story. Apparently, it's not impossible. Found this on an official site: Return to the UK If you live in the UK and are currently travelling abroad, you are strongly advised to return now, where and while there are still commercial routes available. Many airlines are suspending flights and many airports are closing, preventing flights from leaving. Only the following airports are operating international flights: Toronto Pearson (YYZ); Montreal Pierre Elliott Trudeau (YUL); Calgary International Airport (YYC); and Vancouver International Airport (YVR). He could probably have pulled some strings to fly out of Vancouver. Wouldn't you think that Harry knows multiple wealthy people with private planes, any one of whom could allow him to use their plane to take him to the UK if he needed to go. And as far as the coronavirus is concerned, Harry is in a tough situation regarding whether or not to travel to visit his ill father, because emancipated or not, he is still the son of the heir to the the British throne. There may be royal protocols that we don't know about, when the heir to the throne is gravely ill. Hopefully, it will never come to that, and Prince Charles will recover from his illness.
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Post by babbred on Mar 28, 2020 3:49:52 GMT
William's comment came while he was in Ireland, when all of this was on the horizon. In his capacity, this was a dangerous comment for him to make. As you said, it was on the horizon and most people didn't realize how seriously it was. Had he given a very somber and serious response, he'd likely be criticized for fanning fears. I don't think the comment he made was all that different from what most people would have said at that time. I'll jump on the band wagon with those forgiving him for it and leaving some room for understanding.
Way back when SARS was ravaging Asia, I worked for a major airline at an American airport. We got flight benefits, but only by flying stand-by. I remember my co-workers and I half-jokingly saying it was a good time to fly to Asia since the planes were mostly empty. Am I proud of that? No. Looking back I am horrified at my old self. However, it was just vague epidemic in some far-away country. It didn't feel real since America went about its business as usual.
Right now Great Britain is literally under martial law. My husband is British, and so we listen to a lot of British radio on the internet. Every commercial break, they talk about how the police are out, stopping people to ask if they need to be out and punishing you if you don't have a good excuse. Same thing with the train stations. Their airports are beginning to shut down. Their PM has the virus. A major member of the RF has it. Their health system is setting up field hospitals. This is a very stressful time to be living in Britain. Unless somebody says something truly offensive, such as making fun of the dying people, then I will give them a pass.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 28, 2020 11:05:35 GMT
Again anyone here who wishes to give him a pass for saying to first responders in Ireland what he did at a time when the virus was barreling toward Ireland is more than welcome. I have never disliked William or ridiculed him but in this instance I did point out that it was a dangerous comment for him to make in light of his standing. Facts from the WHO were clearly not good and the responders he was speaking with had already transported COVID-19 patients.
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Post by babbred on Mar 28, 2020 14:58:37 GMT
This past Thursday, radio stations in Britain asked their listeners to "give a hand for the NHS [gov. healthcare]". At 8 p.m. GMT, people all over the Britain went outside their houses and started applauding. The RF (the healthy ones) sent out videos on social media showing that they participated, too. One of them showed Kate applauding with all of their children. Ahhhhh....
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 28, 2020 15:21:28 GMT
This past Thursday, radio stations in Britain asked their listeners to "give a hand for the NHS [gov. healthcare]". At 8 p.m. GMT, people all over the Britain went outside their houses and started applauding. The RF (the healthy ones) sent out videos on social media showing that they participated, too. One of them showed Kate applauding with all of their children. Ahhhhh.... I wish I could see that..I'll check if it's online..
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Post by AZChristian on Mar 28, 2020 15:33:12 GMT
This past Thursday, radio stations in Britain asked their listeners to "give a hand for the NHS [gov. healthcare]". At 8 p.m. GMT, people all over the Britain went outside their houses and started applauding. The RF (the healthy ones) sent out videos on social media showing that they participated, too. One of them showed Kate applauding with all of their children. Ahhhhh.... I wish I could see that..I'll check if it's online.. Here you go, my friend.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 28, 2020 15:38:07 GMT
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Post by MissGriss on Mar 29, 2020 4:48:26 GMT
This past Thursday, radio stations in Britain asked their listeners to "give a hand for the NHS [gov. healthcare]". At 8 p.m. GMT, people all over the Britain went outside their houses and started applauding. The RF (the healthy ones) sent out videos on social media showing that they participated, too. One of them showed Kate applauding with all of their children. Ahhhhh.... There were videos of a similar thing happening in New York City (yesterday, I think). It was very touching!
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 29, 2020 5:06:41 GMT
This past Thursday, radio stations in Britain asked their listeners to "give a hand for the NHS [gov. healthcare]". At 8 p.m. GMT, people all over the Britain went outside their houses and started applauding. The RF (the healthy ones) sent out videos on social media showing that they participated, too. One of them showed Kate applauding with all of their children. Ahhhhh.... There were videos of a similar thing happening in New York City (yesterday, I think). It was very touching! I think everywhere has adopted, what started in Italy. We still have snow, so Christmas lights are back on, people have used food coloring to spell out love and hope, thankful etc..
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Post by Imperfect1 on Mar 30, 2020 12:36:50 GMT
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 30, 2020 12:38:28 GMT
Good news, indeed! Thank you for sharing Imperfect1 .
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 30, 2020 14:06:05 GMT
You beat me to it! Excellent news
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