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Post by Cuddles on Feb 26, 2021 13:50:24 GMT
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Post by acookertv on Feb 26, 2021 13:57:21 GMT
I don't understand why a man who says that press reports terrorize him agrees to participate in things that draw press reports.
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Post by AZChristian on Feb 26, 2021 15:27:06 GMT
I don't understand why a man who says that press reports terrorize him agrees to participate in things that draw press reports. Especially when they have the potential to draw criticism.
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Post by acookertv on Feb 26, 2021 15:31:34 GMT
And I'll criticize it too! I'm not buying that Archie's first word was crocodile!!!!! Maybe he said "cra" while Harry or Meghan was holding a stuffed crocodile that is a favorite toy ... but his first word was not a three syllable word!
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Post by AZChristian on Feb 26, 2021 15:46:20 GMT
And I'll criticize it too! I'm not buying that Archie's first word was crocodile!!!!! Maybe he said "cra" while Harry or Meghan was holding a stuffed crocodile that is a favorite toy ... but his first word was not a three syllable word! And I wonder if he said it with a British accent. (LOL)
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Post by Arielflies on Feb 26, 2021 18:45:32 GMT
I enjoyed the whole interview; found it very light-hearted and in good form...even Harry using the bathroom at the Fresh Prince house. OMG, he is in super shape going through that comedy bit set up to humiliate someone (turned out to be James Cordon). I listened to his answers about why they left England and didn't find them any different than what he has been saying all along.
I loved the bit about zoom with Grandpa (who slams the lid shut rather than sign out) and that the Grands have been able to watch Archie walk, etc. through zoom as many grandparents have had to do during the shut downs.
The 405 misshap with the crashing tea trolley was kind of scary as accidents happen all the time on that freeway...and with a topsy-turvy bus, I'm surprised they even got on the freeway. I did love that James ordered Harry to clean it up.
Good and fun interview.
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Post by acookertv on Feb 26, 2021 18:50:50 GMT
I agree it was a fun interview, and a great move to put Harry in that kind of environment. The way he performed on the obstacle course affirmed that his military service was LEGIT and not simply a Prince wearing a uniform and trying to pretend he was in the military. James Corden does a great job of putting people in unusual circumstances so they can shine, and did it well here. To me the only criticisms are the ways that Harry is dishonest with the way he presents things to the public. A person who is terrorized by being in the public eye has no reason to go on James Corden, and babies don't say three syllable words as their first word! I don't understand the need to be dishonest about those things.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 26, 2021 20:09:01 GMT
I loved how Harry's arms went straight behind his back, when he entered the house. Some things are just so natural.. youtu.be/7oxlCKMlpZw
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Post by dagwood on Feb 26, 2021 20:33:46 GMT
Oh my goodness, I loved that interview. Can you just imagine Prince Harry showing up at your door asking to use the bathroom?
I really do like him, I hope they can get past all this crap going on.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 26, 2021 20:36:25 GMT
Oh my goodness, I loved that interview. Can you just imagine Prince Harry showing up at your door asking to use the bathroom? I really do like him, I hope they can get past all this crap going on. I'd let him use my biffy..lol
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 26, 2021 23:42:56 GMT
I enjoyed the whole interview; found it very light-hearted and in good form...even Harry using the bathroom at the Fresh Prince house. OMG, he is in super shape going through that comedy bit set up to humiliate someone (turned out to be James Cordon). I listened to his answers about why they left England and didn't find them any different than what he has been saying all along. I loved the bit about zoom with Grandpa (who slams the lid shut rather than sign out) and that the Grands have been able to watch Archie walk, etc. through zoom as many grandparents have had to do during the shut downs. The 405 misshap with the crashing tea trolley was kind of scary as accidents happen all the time on that freeway...and with a topsy-turvy bus, I'm surprised they even got on the freeway. I did love that James ordered Harry to clean it up. Good and fun interview. It was a fun interview. I didn't realize that they actually got on the freeway. I thought they were just on an overpass that went above it. If they were actually on a freeway, yikes! I thought it was interesting that Harry said that he'd never been on an open-air bus. It wasn't something he was allowed to do. I'm guessing that there are a lot of things that common people do that aren't part of royal life for one reason or another.
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Post by Arielflies on Feb 27, 2021 0:21:37 GMT
I agree it was a fun interview, and a great move to put Harry in that kind of environment. The way he performed on the obstacle course affirmed that his military service was LEGIT and not simply a Prince wearing a uniform and trying to pretend he was in the military. James Corden does a great job of putting people in unusual circumstances so they can shine, and did it well here. To me the only criticisms are the ways that Harry is dishonest with the way he presents things to the public. A person who is terrorized by being in the public eye has no reason to go on James Corden, and babies don't say three syllable words as their first word! I don't understand the need to be dishonest about those things. According to my family, my first word was Cadillac - the second - Pontiac. My grandmother taught me to say them to my Grandfather by repeating them over and over. Perhaps Archie had the same type of learning experience and that word resonated with him.
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Post by Kao on Feb 27, 2021 15:47:57 GMT
I agree, Arielflies. A child's first words are going to be something he's either drawn to or hears regularly. If you live in a household where three syllable words are used, the odds are more likely that you're going to grow up speaking that way.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 27, 2021 18:16:31 GMT
I agree, Arielflies . A child's first words are going to be something he's either drawn to or hears regularly. If you live in a household where three syllable words are used, the odds are more likely that you're going to grow up speaking that way. Do you really think they repeated crocodile over and over? Hmm, I guess I really doubting that.jmho
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 27, 2021 19:32:09 GMT
There might have been a book that they read to him regularly that was about crocodiles. I think the point is that children are very different. I have no idea what my first words were, but the story is that I didn't speak much at all when I was a baby/toddler and then started speaking in short multi-word sentences, so really anything is possible. And why do we really care so much about whether or not the crocodile thing is accurate/
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Post by Kao on Feb 27, 2021 22:43:26 GMT
I agree, Arielflies . A child's first words are going to be something he's either drawn to or hears regularly. If you live in a household where three syllable words are used, the odds are more likely that you're going to grow up speaking that way. Do you really think they repeated crocodile over and over? Hmm, I guess I really doubting that.jmho As MissGriss mentioned there are quite a few baby and children books available that have crocodiles in them, so yes. If it's a favorite book that is read every night even moreso. It could even be something as simple as having a beloved stuffed crocodile and being told "We're going to sleep with Crocodile Joe,, night night" every night. Never underestimate the ability of young children being able to name things that they love!
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 28, 2021 0:13:33 GMT
Do you really think they repeated crocodile over and over? Hmm, I guess I really doubting that.jmho As MissGriss mentioned there are quite a few baby and children books available that have crocodiles in them, so yes. If it's a favorite book that is read every night even moreso. It could even be something as simple as having a beloved stuffed crocodile and being told "We're going to sleep with Crocodile Joe,, night night" every night. Never underestimate the ability of young children being able to name things that they love! Oh I don't, I have two of my own and a grandchild.
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Post by Arielflies on Feb 28, 2021 2:16:46 GMT
My Grandmother really wanted a Cadillac. She got a Pontiac instead so her prompting worked.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 3, 2021 21:38:23 GMT
Three days before Harry and Meghan's interview with Oprah a 2018 bullying complaint against Meghan surfaces.
These haters have no shame.
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Post by ccl on Mar 3, 2021 22:05:07 GMT
How do we know they are not telling the truth? It was reported in The Times which is a legitimate newspaper, not a gossip rag, so presumably they did their due diligence before publishing. And there were plenty of reports of staff leaving unexpectedly during Meghan and Harry’s tenure as a Royal couple which suggests something may have been afoot. I’m not saying it is necessarily 100% true, or that people didn’t take things the wrong way, but nor do I think they can just be dismissed as haters.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 3, 2021 22:34:01 GMT
What was reported is that there are claims, not that there is necessarily any truth to the claims. Claims from 2018. Surfacing 3 days before their interview airs. People writes, "In the story published in The Times on Tuesday, a source says that Harry pleaded with Knauf not to pursue the HR complaint. According to The Times, lawyers for Meghan, 39, and Harry, 36, deny that any meeting took place or that the Duke of Sussex would have interfered with any staff matter." A source said Harry pleaded? Yeah, nah. Not thinking so. People tells more about all of the degradation/other claims that are The Times piece, if anyone is interested.
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Post by acookertv on Mar 3, 2021 22:41:24 GMT
The Palace has said that the claims will be investigated, and any former employees with complaints are encouraged to come forward.
It would not surprise me at all if this is connected to the Oprah interview. Doing the interview is so far outside of what the Palace sees as acceptable behavior for family members that it would not surprise me if this is a way of sending the signal that they protected Harry and Meghan as long as they were behaving as expected, but if they buck the system, they'll regret it. Really, the differences between the BRF and a mob family are more along the lines of the type of real estate and clothes they wear.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 3, 2021 22:50:24 GMT
I see no reason to believe that Harry and Meghan needed protection. Dimes to donuts this will just end up being another lawsuit Meghan wins.
I found Buckingham Palace's announcement trite and yet quite the flip from how they reacted when claims were levied against Andrew.
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Post by Arielflies on Mar 3, 2021 22:53:37 GMT
There were whispers in the rags as they were moving to Frogmore. I remember wondering if this was a staff/principal problem or a culture conflict. She had not been in training to lead a large staff from babyhood. As I will do, I'll give her a break.
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Post by Kao on Mar 4, 2021 3:43:19 GMT
The impression I got is that some of their issues were less "family" and more of a conflict between staff/aides and how they wanted to run their household. There were also leaks to the British tabs that was directly traced to people assigned to work for them, so I can also see them not wanting to deal with that.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 4, 2021 4:28:46 GMT
The impression I got is that some of their issues were less "family" and more of a conflict between staff/aides and how they wanted to run their household. There were also leaks to the British tabs that was directly traced to people assigned to work for them, so I can also see them not wanting to deal with that. Meghan was firing off emails to her aides at 4.00am, that I do remember. Nothing needs to be sent at that time imho.
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Post by acookertv on Mar 4, 2021 12:10:23 GMT
I see no reason to believe that Harry and Meghan needed protection. Dimes to donuts this will just end up being another lawsuit Meghan wins. I found Buckingham Palace's announcement trite and yet quite the flip from how they reacted when claims were levied against Andrew. It's not a matter of Harry and Meghan needing protection - it is a matter of the image of the BRF needing protection. Just like they worked hard to hide and cover up the problems in Charles and Diana's marriage, Diana's bulimia, and the issues between Andrew and Sarah for years they'd hide and cover up Meghan's behavior because it being revealed would let on that the family is not perfect. However, once they officially leave their duties, there's no longer a reason to cover it up. Further, when Harry and Meghan disrespect the Queen by responding to her statement, the palace takes the opportunity to remind them of who will always have more power in the situation.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 4, 2021 12:58:52 GMT
I see no reason to believe that Harry and Meghan needed protection. Dimes to donuts this will just end up being another lawsuit Meghan wins. I found Buckingham Palace's announcement trite and yet quite the flip from how they reacted when claims were levied against Andrew. It's not a matter of Harry and Meghan needing protection - it is a matter of the image of the BRF needing protection. Just like they worked hard to hide and cover up the problems in Charles and Diana's marriage, Diana's bulimia, and the issues between Andrew and Sarah for years they'd hide and cover up Meghan's behavior because it being revealed would let on that the family is not perfect. However, once they officially leave their duties, there's no longer a reason to cover it up. Further, when Harry and Meghan disrespect the Queen by responding to her statement, the palace takes the opportunity to remind them of who will always have more power in the situation. You said, "Doing the interview is so far outside of what the Palace sees as acceptable behavior for family members that it would not surprise me if this is a way of sending the signal that they protected Harry and Meghan as long as they were behaving as expected, but if they buck the system, they'll regret it." And I am saying I see no reason to believe they needed protection because they have the truth on their side. This is just a smear brought to ruin their credibility before their interview airs. As for the power that you mention, I'd rather have the truth on my side than any amount of power because truth generally wins, even though some won't acknowledge it. Case in point, Meghan's lawsuit against the tabloid.
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Post by acookertv on Mar 4, 2021 13:12:18 GMT
There's a giant assumption there that Meghan is 100% innocent of all that she's being accused of. There's an awful lot of smoke around to deny there's a fire.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 4, 2021 13:28:02 GMT
Smoke as in early (5AM) text messages and emails? Or the ones saying she insisted on air freshener in the chapel?
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