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Post by Arielflies on Jul 23, 2021 21:31:23 GMT
What chivves me is that Daddy Dearest is threatening court action to see his grandchildren. He is such a douche.
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Post by AZChristian on Jul 23, 2021 22:20:43 GMT
Here's the California law regarding Visitation Rights of Grandparents.
If you are a grandparent and want information about visitation with your grandchildren, there are many resources that can help you learn about your options and understand your rights as a grandparent.
Under California law, a grandparent can ask the court for reasonable visitation with a grandchild. To give a grandparent reasonable visitation with a grandchild, the court has to:
Find that there was a pre-existing relationship between grandparent and grandchild that has “engendered a bond.” This means that there is such a bond between grandparent and grandchild that visitation is in best interest of the grandchild.
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Balance the best interest of the child in having visitation with a grandparent with the rights of the parents to make decisions about their child.
I know the kids live in California, but I'm not sure Grandpa can use the California law, since he lives in Mexico. And even if he COULD sue in California, there is no pre-existing relationship.
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Post by FannyMare on Jul 23, 2021 23:04:30 GMT
So Harry is now going to write a memoir? I really tried to be understanding of him and the bride, but I think I have had enough of both of them. I just don't seem to judge them as others do. If it were anyone else writing a memoir there wouldn't be all this criticism. Who's to say what's in it? Plus, even if it is critical of the Royal Family, it's his family. That's a big part of what memoirs are all about. In any other family there wouldn't be all the outrage. The problem is that the Royal Family is big & powerful. Their connections are even bigger & even more powerful. They're all about image. Normally they can squelch any secrets, big or small, coming out about them. But Harry is free & out of their manipulations. They can't threaten to cut him out of anything. He's already free of them. They can't threaten to cut him off financially. They already did that & once again, he's free of that. He's not living off their support anymore. "The Firm" is all about control, and in Harry, they've lost their control of him. This is driving them bats and they don't know what to do. They're all desperately afraid of him exposing the fact that they're not perfect. Their image is just that, an image. And that's fine with me. I haven't had any illusions about them for a long time. I've heard them referred to as the world's most famous disfunctional family. Harry just did what I'd bet a lot of them have wanted to do over the years - He got out. That took guts. He does seem to care about them, especially his grandmother, The Queen. I doubt there will be anything in his memoirs all that shocking, or any more scandalous than anything we already know about that bunch. My advice to the Royal Family would be to just keep their big mouths shut & don't make a bigger deal out of it. Go about their business as usual, and smile. You know, the old mother advice: Ignore it & it'll go away. My advice to Harry would be to hold off releasing any memoirs 'till The Queen is gone. She's darn near 100, I think 95 at least. Let your beloved Grandmother live out her reign and life in peace. Then, after that, all bets are off. I hope they fact check the book, because a lot they said to Oprah , proved to be untrue. I'm just glad, they are staying out of the public eye.
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Post by MissGriss on Jul 23, 2021 23:16:45 GMT
I agree that the kindest thing to do would be to wait till after the queen's death. He seems to have a genuine affection for her, so why cause her pain at this late point in her life?
re: Thomas Markle, he's either delusional or just needs attention. He has no right to see his grandchildren.
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Post by Critical on Jul 24, 2021 0:11:02 GMT
I agree that the kindest thing to do would be to wait till after the queen's death. He seems to have a genuine affection for her, so why cause her pain at this late point in her life? re: Thomas Markle, he's either delusional or just needs attention. He has no right to see his grandchildren. Based on what we've seen from him over the last few years, I'd say it's both. He's probably looking for a payout too. That family of hers seems like a bunch of grifters, with the exception of her mother.
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Post by MissScarlet on Jul 24, 2021 3:47:07 GMT
I agree that the kindest thing to do would be to wait till after the queen's death. He seems to have a genuine affection for her, so why cause her pain at this late point in her life? re: Thomas Markle, he's either delusional or just needs attention. He has no right to see his grandchildren.I hope they are able to keep him far far away from those children. I have a feeling the first thing he'd do if he got visitation with them is set up a photo shoot & sell the pictures of him with them, complete with a "poor me" article to go with them. Those children would be his ticket to the media.
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Post by acookertv on Jul 24, 2021 10:42:56 GMT
So Harry is now going to write a memoir? I really tried to be understanding of him and the bride, but I think I have had enough of both of them. I just don't seem to judge them as others do. If it were anyone else writing a memoir there wouldn't be all this criticism. Who's to say what's in it? Plus, even if it is critical of the Royal Family, it's his family. That's a big part of what memoirs are all about. In any other family there wouldn't be all the outrage. The problem is that the Royal Family is big & powerful. Their connections are even bigger & even more powerful. They're all about image. Normally they can squelch any secrets, big or small, coming out about them. But Harry is free & out of their manipulations. They can't threaten to cut him out of anything. He's already free of them. They can't threaten to cut him off financially. They already did that & once again, he's free of that. He's not living off their support anymore. "The Firm" is all about control, and in Harry, they've lost their control of him. This is driving them bats and they don't know what to do. They're all desperately afraid of him exposing the fact that they're not perfect. Their image is just that, an image. And that's fine with me. I haven't had any illusions about them for a long time. I've heard them referred to as the world's most famous disfunctional family. Harry just did what I'd bet a lot of them have wanted to do over the years - He got out. That took guts. He does seem to care about them, especially his grandmother, The Queen. I doubt there will be anything in his memoirs all that shocking, or any more scandalous than anything we already know about that bunch. My advice to the Royal Family would be to just keep their big mouths shut & don't make a bigger deal out of it. Go about their business as usual, and smile. You know, the old mother advice: Ignore it & it'll go away. My advice to Harry would be to hold off releasing any memoirs 'till The Queen is gone. She's darn near 100, I think 95 at least. Let your beloved Grandmother live out her reign and life in peace. Then, after that, all bets are off. To me, the issue with Harry is he wants it both ways. He wants to leave the family, but still have the perks of being in it. I think that both he and Meghan are rather tone deaf when they lament their problems to the public. The two best examples of that are Meghans infamous “no one asks me how I’m doing” during a documentary interview that was intended to bring attention to the challenges of African villagers and Harry complaining to Oprah that his dad cut him off financially in his mid 30s.
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Post by ibot2much on Jul 24, 2021 11:49:17 GMT
Mr. Markle ---certainly a need for attention.....and the apple didn't fall far from the tree.
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Post by AZChristian on Jul 24, 2021 17:16:13 GMT
I think that both he and Meghan are rather tone deaf when they lament their problems to the public. The two best examples of that are Meghans infamous “no one asks me how I’m doing” during a documentary interview that was intended to bring attention to the challenges of African villagers and Harry complaining to Oprah that his dad cut him off financially in his mid 30s. Might this be a good place to point out that Diana left him approximately $10,000,000? Poor Harry. I've been intrigued by ads for the upcoming season of Chopped, Jr. One of the judges they show is Meghan Markle, whom they identify as "a FORMER member of the British Royal Family." Huh? Queen Elizabeth said that Harry and Meghan and their children would always be much-loved members of their family. So she allows herself to be introduced as a FORMER member of the family, but still wants all the perks ($$$$$)? Must be nice. Most of us know that we can't have it both ways.
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Post by Arielflies on Jul 24, 2021 20:46:21 GMT
So she is now inventing as a Food Network judge? Huh? I didn't know she had the light touch personality for that.
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Post by ibot2much on Jul 24, 2021 21:11:59 GMT
I thought I heard that name during a commercial for the show. Curious when it was filmed....prior to becoming "royal" or during one of her trips to America since becoming "royal"??
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Post by AZChristian on Jul 24, 2021 21:48:48 GMT
I thought I heard that name during a commercial for the show. Curious when it was filmed....prior to becoming "royal" or during one of her trips to America since becoming "royal"?? Good question. I've just done a bit of googling, and it appears she was a Chopped judge BEFORE she married Harry. So why do the promotional ads identify her as a "former member of the British Royal Family"? Technically, she was a "soon-to-be" member. Apparently, she's still going to tie her name to the BRF - no matter when she was filmed.
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Post by MissGriss on Jul 24, 2021 21:54:06 GMT
I thought I heard that name during a commercial for the show. Curious when it was filmed....prior to becoming "royal" or during one of her trips to America since becoming "royal"?? Good question. I've just done a bit of googling, and it appears she was a Chopped judge BEFORE she married Harry. So why do the promotional ads identify her as a "former member of the British Royal Family"? Technically, she was a "soon-to-be" member. Apparently, she's still going to tie her name to the BRF - no matter when she was filmed.I'm pretty sure that, in this case, it's the network/producers that are tying her name to the BRF and that Meghan Markle had nothing whatsoever to do with the language used in that ad for something she filmed years ago. Obviously, they are re-airing it and want to capitalize on her celebrity.
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Post by ibot2much on Jul 24, 2021 23:21:54 GMT
I wonder if it was one season that went in the storage bin because it wasn't especially interesting and somebody noticed that they had her----known then for her role on SUITS-- and pulled it out yelling "wowzer...look what I found".
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Post by Kao on Jul 27, 2021 15:36:55 GMT
The lady Kitty Spencer got married to South African millionaire Michael Lewis in Rome!
Considering how her family is old school and already said that the lion's share of the inheritance is going to her younger brother I don't blame her for securing the bag with her now husband, even though she is 30 and he is 62. Her dad wasn't at the wedding (word around town says that he had issues with the groom being 5 years older than him) but Kitty wore an array of beautiful Dolce and Gabanna gowns for her nuptials and she looked happy as hell so it's her business. Definitely google her dresses; I'm not here for D&G for a multitude of reasons but they did beautiful work.
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Post by Cuddles on Jul 27, 2021 15:51:40 GMT
They are OMG gorgeous, aren’t they? And the rooms those pics were taken in… OMG again! Wonder what it is like to live like that!!!
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Post by Cuddles on Jul 27, 2021 22:42:55 GMT
So Harry is now going to write a memoir? I really tried to be understanding of him and the bride, but I think I have had enough of both of them. Well he's chosen to leave royal life and needs an income. So it's not a surprise that he's turned his back on the traditions of his family and will open up in ways they generally frown upon. That's fine provided he accepts the consequences of the decision, which will likely be more distance between him and his family and his family's money. Of course, I expect he won't see any connection between the two and will sufficiently whine when he's left out of family occasions he thinks he should be involved in. Perhaps he'll release the book in time for the Queens platinum jubilee next year so that when the paperback edition is released, he can add a chapter talking about how angry he was to be left off the balcony appearance after the release of the book. Proceeds from the book and audiobook, which will cover his childhood in the public eye to his military duty in Afghanistan to becoming a husband to Meghan Markle and father to son Archie, 2, and daughter Lilibet, 1 month — will be donated to charity. link
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Post by MissGriss on Jul 28, 2021 2:27:31 GMT
The lady Kitty Spencer got married to South African millionaire Michael Lewis in Rome! Considering how her family is old school and already said that the lion's share of the inheritance is going to her younger brother I don't blame her for securing the bag with her now husband, even though she is 30 and he is 62. Her dad wasn't at the wedding (word around town says that he had issues with the groom being 5 years older than him) but Kitty wore an array of beautiful Dolce and Gabanna gowns for her nuptials and she looked happy as hell so it's her business. Definitely google her dresses; I'm not here for D&G for a multitude of reasons but they did beautiful work. They really were spectacular, weren't they? The jewelry she wore with them was out of this world gorgeous! That's pretty rotten of her father not to go to the wedding. I'm not a fan of big age gaps like this, especially when they man has all the money leaving the woman so dependent on him for her survival; but I hope she'll be happy.
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Post by Critical on Jul 28, 2021 2:29:16 GMT
As much as Harry and Meghan fuss about her father's behavior, it seems like Harry's taking a page out of his father-in-law's book. He's a part of a family who doesn't want their dirty laundry aired in public. He claims to want to mend their relationship, but just can't seem to stop talking about his family to the press and, now, in whatever books he's going to write (IIRC, it's a FOUR book deal). Thomas claims to love his daughter, but can't stop talking to the media about her, in spite of her requests that he not do that. I don't know how H&M can look at what her father does and not see the parallels in their own behavior.
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Post by Cuddles on Jul 28, 2021 10:07:56 GMT
On the one hand you have “info” coming from a shady gossip columnist who has purposely moved in next door to their source, a source who btw is hard up for cash, and on the other, you have a lifelong member of the Royal Family in his own words, and with all proceeds of said words going to charity, sharing his experiences as a lifelong member of the Royal Family and as a newlywed and a father.
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Post by acookertv on Jul 28, 2021 10:46:37 GMT
Yep - two men who have been members of their families their entire lives who are spilling the beans on said families. And Harry told Oprah that he was hard up for money after his father cut him off, so maybe they've got that in common too
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Post by Cuddles on Jul 28, 2021 11:56:32 GMT
No, actually he did not.
I was in a hurry earlier but now have time to clarify my post. Harry didn’t say he was hard up. What he said was his father cut him off. He stopped talking his calls. The pandemic was just beginning to escalate and they were moving to Canada. A British tabloid revealed their destination. Harry found himself in urgent need of security and didn’t have immediate means. That’s when Tyler Perry stepped in.
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Post by ccl on Jul 28, 2021 12:30:03 GMT
There is no way all proceeds of these books are going to charity. The publisher is going to want their cut and Harry got something like 25 million for the deal. I’m sure some of the sales aka proceeds will go to charity but all? No. Harry wants to make money for his family, nothing wrong with that. But the publisher is going to want salacious details so we’ll need to see what he actually ends up writing.
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Post by Cuddles on Aug 19, 2021 16:53:02 GMT
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Post by acookertv on Aug 19, 2021 18:58:26 GMT
That Harry - always such an amazing philanthropist sacrificing his time for others. I mean, he's going to force himself to play polo! Such a giver!
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Post by coco46 on Aug 31, 2021 13:34:44 GMT
I know Harry and Meghan are not very popular on this forum, But I do feel sorry for them, as they continue to be maligned in this country as they were in the UK. Perhaps not as strongly, but it is still there. I know many would say, what do they have to be sad about, as they have many riches and many advantages that the everyday person doesn't have. You can have all the money in the world, but if you are continually put down, that has got to weigh on a person's mind. They are, after all, human. From what I have read in royal magazines, written by people who follow and know the Royals, Harry was the happiest when he was in the service, basically an everyday man doing a job. Once William had children, he could dispose of the "spare" name attached to him. I truly believe that that was a relief. Harry has a lot of his mom in him, as I see many times how he likes to help human kind, especially those that are oppressed. I think he found a soulmate in Meghan, who before she ever met Harry, did some humanitarian work in Africa. They are the same side of the coin. Unfortunately, the more he and Meghan try to explain why they felt they needed to step down from the Royal family and leave the UK, the more he digs himself in the hole for the English people and for some here in the USA. I do feel that what happened to his mother molded the way he responds to anything he perceives to be a threat to his family and none of us knows how we would have solved this issue. I feel he did the best he could. I, also, still feel that this couple wants to do good for the people they come across who need it. JMO
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Post by Cuddles on Aug 31, 2021 16:16:51 GMT
I enjoyed your post, coco46. My calendar reminder of Diana’s passing 24 years ago has had me feeling blue. Your post just gave me a reassuring boost that there are others who recognize that Harry carries on her legacy through his humanitarian charity work, and that he and Meghan are not only right for each other in that way but also good for each other in a number of other ways.
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Post by Kao on Aug 31, 2021 17:53:15 GMT
Let's have a change of pace and talk about Miss Diana for a bit. I saw the trailer for "Spencer" and noticed two things right off the bat: 1. No speaking lines from Kristin Stewart, who is playing Diana. Hmmm.... 2. Why did they put those huge dark circles under her eyes like she's been awake for days? With The Crown having more Diana storylines and now this movie I feel bad for both Will and Harry. That was their mother, and unlike the rest of us they actually had a relationship with and loved her.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 31, 2021 18:04:22 GMT
Let's have a change of pace and talk about Miss Diana for a bit. I saw the trailer for "Spencer" and noticed two things right off the bat: 1. No speaking lines from Kristin Stewart, who is playing Diana. Hmmm.... 2. Why did they put those huge dark circles under her eyes like she's been awake for days? With The Crown having more Diana storylines and now this movie I feel bad for both Will and Harry. That was their mother, and unlike the rest of us they actually had a relationship with and loved her. That could be said about most "biography" films, no? Caroline Kennedy had a relationship with and loved her mother and father, and has seen films made about both of them which don't portray them in a favorable life. Same with the Bush family, and many others. I suspect that when you are a member of such a high profile family, you have to develop a thick skin and recognize that what people are writing about and speculating about is the public persona and not the actual person you know and love.
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Post by Kao on Aug 31, 2021 19:07:30 GMT
That's true but they were so young when they lost her. I still remember when they were huddled together at the funeral and a well-meaning person told them that their mom was a lovely person and Will thanked him and told him he really appreciated hearing that. I just hope both brothers are in a much better space these days and can deal with this.
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