coco46
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Post by coco46 on Oct 28, 2022 10:33:07 GMT
Oh FM. Keep an open mind for your friend! $1.5 million to his African HIV and AIDS charity Sentebale $320,000 to WellChild I have always felt sorry for Harry. It must be awful to be considered a "Spare" and have your brother elevated to the max. I was pleased how Queen Elizabeth was so kind to him. We know the Royal children have many privileges none of us will ever experience, but none of us have literally walked in Harry's shoes, so I give him a pass. The loss of Princess Diana molded how he continues to view the world and I hate how people malign him for his choices. I don't know if any of Oprah's interview was all correct, but I feel this was his "truth" and how he has perceived how his life has played out. I will read the book with an open mind, realizing that this is HIS life to write and HIS perception to reveal.
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Oct 28, 2022 11:54:06 GMT
I've always heard it as you said FireWoman, "yours, mine, and the truth". I usually keep that in mind when reading tell-all books.
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 28, 2022 16:45:04 GMT
Oh FM. Keep an open mind for your friend! $1.5 million to his African HIV and AIDS charity Sentebale $320,000 to WellChild I have always felt sorry for Harry. It must be awful to be considered a "Spare" and have your brother elevated to the max. I was pleased how Queen Elizabeth was so kind to him. We know the Royal children have many privileges none of us will ever experience, but none of us have literally walked in Harry's shoes, so I give him a pass. The loss of Princess Diana molded how he continues to view the world and I hate how people malign him for his choices. I don't know if any of Oprah's interview was all correct, but I feel this was his "truth" and how he has perceived how his life has played out. I will read the book with an open mind, realizing that this is HIS life to write and HIS perception to reveal. There are many spares in the RF, Harry isn't alone.
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Post by AZChristian on Oct 28, 2022 22:55:08 GMT
As FannyMare pointed out, "There are many spares in the RF, Harry isn't alone." When Queen Elizabeth's children were all young, the line was: Charles, Andrew, Edward and then Anne. She wasn't even the primary spare, but no one has worked harder as an adult in fulfilling the needs of the Royal Family than she has. Her life has been all about service. That can't be said for many of the current people higher in the line of succession.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Oct 29, 2022 9:42:49 GMT
Oh FM. Keep an open mind for your friend! $1.5 million to his African HIV and AIDS charity Sentebale $320,000 to WellChild I have always felt sorry for Harry. It must be awful to be considered a "Spare" and have your brother elevated to the max. I was pleased how Queen Elizabeth was so kind to him. We know the Royal children have many privileges none of us will ever experience, but none of us have literally walked in Harry's shoes, so I give him a pass. The loss of Princess Diana molded how he continues to view the world and I hate how people malign him for his choices. I don't know if any of Oprah's interview was all correct, but I feel this was his "truth" and how he has perceived how his life has played out. I will read the book with an open mind, realizing that this is HIS life to write and HIS perception to reveal. I have always felt the same way about Harry and totally agree with your post. Plus, I have seen in history, how a "spare" very often becomes king/queen. Harry's own great-grandfather, (Queen Elizabeth's own father) grew up as Bertie, the shy, younger brother of the king. But the king abducted and Bertie, the spare, became king.
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coco46
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Post by coco46 on Oct 29, 2022 11:23:01 GMT
I have always felt sorry for Harry. It must be awful to be considered a "Spare" and have your brother elevated to the max. I was pleased how Queen Elizabeth was so kind to him. We know the Royal children have many privileges none of us will ever experience, but none of us have literally walked in Harry's shoes, so I give him a pass. The loss of Princess Diana molded how he continues to view the world and I hate how people malign him for his choices. I don't know if any of Oprah's interview was all correct, but I feel this was his "truth" and how he has perceived how his life has played out. I will read the book with an open mind, realizing that this is HIS life to write and HIS perception to reveal. There are many spares in the RF, Harry isn't alone. And each will react differently to this fact.
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Post by Cuddles on Oct 31, 2022 15:01:03 GMT
There are many spares in the RF, Harry isn't alone. And each will react differently to this fact. I would wholeheartedly agree. Based on my life experiences, just the word “spare” triggers me!
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 31, 2022 17:30:38 GMT
There are many spares in the RF, Harry isn't alone. And each will react differently to this fact. Harry's a perpetual&nbs victim, hopefully when he grows up, and has a family of his own, to love and care for, things will be better. Yes, sarcasm
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Oct 31, 2022 19:48:35 GMT
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Post by Bearcata on Oct 31, 2022 19:56:00 GMT
FM -it was just a re-hash of the good (Falklands war hero) the bad (privilege leveler) and the ugly (women/Epstein). He came off as the definition of rich, white privilege (without being actually rich). There are many badly behaved, rich men, color has nothing to do with.
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Post by Arielflies on Oct 31, 2022 20:02:43 GMT
So true, Bearcata, but he happens to be white in skin color. I'm so tired of bending over backward for definitions of self. Anyone and anything - think cats and dogs can expect the world to go their way.
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Post by MissGriss on Nov 1, 2022 3:15:59 GMT
Interesting The New Yorker article from earlier this year (April) talking about the portion of Tina Brown's The Palace Papers that talks about the challenges of being royal in the UK if you're not the monarch. The short version is: It's boring and constricting and not very rewarding--pretty much a golden cage, which is what Harry was alluding to when he talked about feeling sorry for his father and brother (though probably not in those exact words). The Collateral Damage of Queen Elizabeth's Glorious Reign
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Post by Bearcata on Nov 1, 2022 5:31:40 GMT
Interesting The New Yorker article from earlier this year (April) talking about the portion of Tina Brown's The Palace Papers that talks about the challenges of being royal in the UK if you're not the monarch. The short version is: It's boring and constricting and not very rewarding--pretty much a golden cage, which is what Harry was alluding to when he talked about feeling sorry for his father and brother (though probably not in those exact words). The Collateral Damage of Queen Elizabeth's Glorious ReignI remember reading a book many years ago about being "In Service". It was about a ladies maid who served one of the Duchess or high ranking noble at the time. The author wrote about how being "In Service" was a noble profession. One of the chapters described a visit to the royals. She felt very sad for the royal servants as she felt that the royals were very frugal (read cheap) in regards to the servants quarters, wages, food, and how they were treated. Partly that was due to the royals having so much property that they could not maintain it all properly.
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Post by MissGriss on Nov 1, 2022 6:40:13 GMT
They really do have a lot of properties. I got curious a few weeks ago and looked up all of the different castles and residences that they have, and there were just so many! I think it’s good that Charles is talking about cutting back on which ones they use as residences. But still….
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coco46
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Post by coco46 on Nov 1, 2022 13:05:38 GMT
LOLOLOLOL!!!! We're not fighting Eastcoastmom, just discussing. Every opinion is important to opine!
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Nov 1, 2022 14:03:25 GMT
LOLOLOLOL!!!! We're not fighting Eastcoastmom, just discussing. Every opinion is important to opine! Oh, I know, Coco. It's just that you all are so passionate about it!
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Post by libgirl2 on Nov 1, 2022 14:34:24 GMT
Interesting The New Yorker article from earlier this year (April) talking about the portion of Tina Brown's The Palace Papers that talks about the challenges of being royal in the UK if you're not the monarch. The short version is: It's boring and constricting and not very rewarding--pretty much a golden cage, which is what Harry was alluding to when he talked about feeling sorry for his father and brother (though probably not in those exact words). The Collateral Damage of Queen Elizabeth's Glorious ReignI remember reading a book many years ago about being "In Service". It was about a ladies maid who served one of the Duchess or high ranking noble at the time. The author wrote about how being "In Service" was a noble profession. One of the chapters described a visit to the royals. She felt very sad for the royal servants as she felt that the royals were very frugal (read cheap) in regards to the servants quarters, wages, food, and how they were treated. Partly that was due to the royals having so much property that they could not maintain it all properly. That sounds interesting. Do you remember the author?
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Post by Bearcata on Nov 1, 2022 17:00:25 GMT
I remember reading a book many years ago about being "In Service". It was about a ladies maid who served one of the Duchess or high ranking noble at the time. The author wrote about how being "In Service" was a noble profession. One of the chapters described a visit to the royals. She felt very sad for the royal servants as she felt that the royals were very frugal (read cheap) in regards to the servants quarters, wages, food, and how they were treated. Partly that was due to the royals having so much property that they could not maintain it all properly. That sounds interesting. Do you remember the author? This was close to 30 years ago. I just remember that the author eventually became the ladies maid of the female noble. I remember how the author went into exquisite detail of how the clothes were packed in tissue before being placed in trucks. The author traveled with the noble lady and they stayed in some fabulous homes. I think they even visited Edward and Wallace in France. She talked about how the staff was tipped, she mentioned the good food, the nice quarters she had, and that she met some fabulous people. At one point her lady was invited to visit with the queen. Surprisingly enough, the servants for the royals and herself had poor sleeping quarters, the food not so good, and neither was the pay. I remember being surprised how stingy the British Royal Family was and how poorly they treated their servants vs the regular nobility and upper rich crust. I just remember she called being "In Service" a role with dignity and purpose and that she was not mistreated.
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Post by libgirl2 on Nov 1, 2022 17:55:08 GMT
That sounds interesting. Do you remember the author? This was close to 30 years ago. I just remember that the author eventually became the ladies maid of the female noble. I remember how the author went into exquisite detail of how the clothes were packed in tissue before being placed in trucks. The author traveled with the noble lady and they stayed in some fabulous homes. I think they even visited Edward and Wallace in France. She talked about how the staff was tipped, she mentioned the good food, the nice quarters she had, and that she met some fabulous people. At one point her lady was invited to visit with the queen. Surprisingly enough, the servants for the royals and herself had poor sleeping quarters, the food not so good, and neither was the pay. I remember being surprised how stingy the British Royal Family was and how poorly they treated their servants vs the regular nobility and upper rich crust. I just remember she called being "In Service" a role with dignity and purpose and that she was not mistreated. I guess I will have to use my librarian's brain to figure this one out. Thank you!
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Post by MissGriss on Nov 1, 2022 18:33:45 GMT
I have faith in you libgirl2! When you find the book, please share!
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Post by libgirl2 on Nov 1, 2022 20:21:11 GMT
I have faith in you libgirl2 ! When you find the book, please share! I am trying but not much luck yet!
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Post by sunnydayz on Nov 6, 2022 16:21:32 GMT
And each will react differently to this fact. Harry's a perpetual&nbs victim, hopefully when he grows up, and has a family of his own, to love and care for, things will be better. Yes, sarcasm A bit late to the Party but on a related note here’s my $.02…. We have a family member who’s a perpetual victim. They are exhausting to be around. Over the years, many have offered and given help to this person - money, time, housing, medical help, etc etc etc. Eventually most get worn down with the unending, “ongoingness” of it all and engage less and less often with the person. It’s sad but true. Bottom line - it’s exhausting, family member or not.
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Post by Cuddles on Dec 3, 2022 13:17:33 GMT
Kate looked gorgeous in the green dress she wore to the Earthshot Prize Awards. Loved the color, the jewelry she paired with it, and her makeup.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Dec 3, 2022 22:24:32 GMT
Kate looked gorgeous in the green dress she wore to the Earthshot Prize Awards. Loved the color, the jewelry she paired with it, and her makeup. Loved the dress, hated the color, and the necklace was gorgeous! She's so pretty and has such a wonderful figure and would look great in a burlap sack.
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Post by Cuddles on Dec 4, 2022 1:40:30 GMT
Hated the color?! She's too thin, if you ask me, but her height works wonderfully for gowns so that's in her favor.
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Post by Critical on Dec 4, 2022 7:13:21 GMT
Kate looked gorgeous in the green dress she wore to the Earthshot Prize Awards. Loved the color, the jewelry she paired with it, and her makeup. Loved the dress, hated the color, and the necklace was gorgeous! She's so pretty and has such a wonderful figure and would look great in a burlap sack. Agree about the color. It was putrid. Kelly green would have been so much more flattering. She normally looks stunning and can wear anything, but that dress was bad. The fit wasn’t great either. You could see the outline of her strapless bra, which feels like a big no-no for the royals. Pictures of the dress in question: www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a42135915/kate-middleton-green-dress-earthshot-prize-awards-2022/
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Dec 4, 2022 20:18:47 GMT
I thought Kate looked fabulous in that green dress. IMO, she's just one who can wear any color and look great.
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Post by ibot2much on Dec 4, 2022 20:28:33 GMT
The Boston Herald did a daily column on her clothes---in detail. The last paragraph was one sentence long-- it was always " Prince William looked good too."
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Post by MissGriss on Dec 4, 2022 21:31:46 GMT
Given the way that royal men are expected to dress, there's really not much more to say about his fashion choices. LOL
I think I've heard, though, that Kate's not a huge fan of most of the commentary about her being about her clothes. That would get old, too, I should think.
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Post by nennie on Dec 5, 2022 1:15:41 GMT
I thought Kate looked fabulous in that green dress. IMO, she's just one who can wear any color and look great. I agree with you. I am not a fan of the color green but I did like that color and as always she looks great. I am sure as tiny as she is it is hard to find clothes that fit just right. Kate is quintessential class.
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