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Post by Arielflies on Dec 5, 2022 2:59:41 GMT
Wasn't that dress a puce color rather than a true green, or green/blue? It could have been neon green, but I agree the profile was a tad extreme in the bosom area.
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Dec 5, 2022 12:47:39 GMT
I thought Kate looked fabulous in that green dress. IMO, she's just one who can wear any color and look great. I agree with you. I am not a fan of the color green but I did like that color and as always she looks great. I am sure as tiny as she is it is hard to find clothes that fit just right. Kate is quintessential class. Quintessential class is a great description of her, I agree.
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Post by Cuddles on Dec 5, 2022 14:17:27 GMT
Loved the dress, hated the color, and the necklace was gorgeous! She's so pretty and has such a wonderful figure and would look great in a burlap sack. Agree about the color. It was putrid. Kelly green would have been so much more flattering. She normally looks stunning and can wear anything, but that dress was bad. The fit wasn’t great either. You could see the outline of her strapless bra, which feels like a big no-no for the royals. Pictures of the dress in question: www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a42135915/kate-middleton-green-dress-earthshot-prize-awards-2022/It is actually "my" color. Goes best with my skin, my hair, and my eyes. Even wore it to the senior prom in my sophomore year.
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Post by FireWoman on Dec 5, 2022 20:06:37 GMT
Loved the dress, hated the color, and the necklace was gorgeous! She's so pretty and has such a wonderful figure and would look great in a burlap sack. Agree about the color. It was putrid. Kelly green would have been so much more flattering. She normally looks stunning and can wear anything, but that dress was bad. The fit wasn’t great either. You could see the outline of her strapless bra, which feels like a big no-no for the royals. Pictures of the dress in question: www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a42135915/kate-middleton-green-dress-earthshot-prize-awards-2022/That colour was awful! More I look at the pics overall I am starting to feel the dress too is not flattering to her. I know she can get away with most anything.. but not anything.. this was a big miss for me. She looked like an under-ripe zucchini. William looked good.. lol.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Dec 6, 2022 14:01:05 GMT
It is actually "my" color. Goes best with my skin, my hair, and my eyes. Even wore it to the senior prom in my sophomore year. I'm always surprised about how color works (or doesn't work) with skin tones. A color that looks really bad on one person can look stunning on someone else. It's kind of amazing!
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Post by ibot2much on Dec 9, 2022 14:16:17 GMT
Not happy with the bit from the M and H trailer---showing her mocking having to bow to the Queen...Not an attractive scene at all.
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Post by Arielflies on Dec 9, 2022 16:09:07 GMT
And it is out of context. I watched the first three episodes and, really, there was nothing startling or new, just shown in a fuller context.
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Post by libgirl2 on Dec 9, 2022 16:25:46 GMT
And it is out of context. I watched the first three episodes and, really, there was nothing startling or new, just shown in a fuller context. The problem is people see these "bits" and assume the worst.
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Post by ibot2much on Dec 9, 2022 18:23:26 GMT
Oh good...two of you have seen the whole thing. Please tell me how that scene really played out.
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Post by MissGriss on Dec 10, 2022 4:41:58 GMT
Oh good...two of you have seen the whole thing. Please tell me how that scene really played out. I just watched it. It’s a hilarious story with Meghan as the butt of the joke, not the Queen. Basically, Meghan didn’t know she was going to be meeting the Queen, and as they’re driving up to Windsor castle, Harry says you know how to curtsy, right? Of course she didn’t and ended up doing a deep bow (which she demonstrated while telling the story) rather than a curtsy. So the story was just about how she did it so wrong and laughing at herself for that.
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Post by amber on Dec 14, 2022 0:58:35 GMT
Oh good...two of you have seen the whole thing. Please tell me how that scene really played out. I just watched it. It’s a hilarious story with Meghan as the butt of the joke, not the Queen. Basically, Meghan didn’t know she was going to be meeting the Queen, and as they’re driving up to Windsor castle, Harry says you know how to curtsy, right? Of course she didn’t and ended up doing a deep bow (which she demonstrated while telling the story) rather than a curtsy. So the story was just about how she did it so wrong and laughing at herself for that. I doubt Meghan bowing for the queen happen as she illustrated for the camera. Overall, I give the first 3 parts a *meh*. Meghan has such a loose relationship with factual truths which seems to have driven every narrative from before she met Harry and continues with her distracting attention from her previous lies with more lies. What a messy situation. I don't see how this will ever end well without Harry leaving Meghan and I don't see that happening anytime soon, if ever.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 14, 2022 1:05:14 GMT
I just watched it. It’s a hilarious story with Meghan as the butt of the joke, not the Queen. Basically, Meghan didn’t know she was going to be meeting the Queen, and as they’re driving up to Windsor castle, Harry says you know how to curtsy, right? Of course she didn’t and ended up doing a deep bow (which she demonstrated while telling the story) rather than a curtsy. So the story was just about how she did it so wrong and laughing at herself for that. I doubt Meghan bowing for the queen happen as she illustrated for the camera. Overall, I give the first 3 parts a *meh*. Meghan has such a loose relationship with factual truths which seems to have driven every narrative from before she met Harry and continues with her distracting attention from her previous lies with more lies. What a messy situation. I don't see how this will ever end well without Harry leaving Meghan and I don't see that happening anytime soon, if ever. I saw that snippet, no way she did that. It's reported the nastier stuff is in the next episodes, I'm just glad they are keeping their lives private, and out of the limelight.. I'm pleased to say we haven't watched any of it.
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Dec 14, 2022 13:53:17 GMT
We haven't watched it either, Fanny..and don't intend to.
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Post by Cuddles on Dec 14, 2022 17:40:43 GMT
The more I learn the more I wish the whole institution would just dissolve. People in positions of power can be so cold and self-serving. Even stabbing family in the back gives them no pause. I find it very unsettling.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 14, 2022 23:22:07 GMT
The more I learn the more I wish the whole institution would just dissolve. People in positions of power can be so cold and self-serving. Even stabbing family in the back gives them no pause. I find it very unsettling. Meghan and Harry left the institution, why the hell do they keep coming back, or bringing it up?.They let something heal, and back they come to pick off the scab, if I never saw or heard about these two nutters, I'd be just fine.
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Post by Cuddles on Dec 15, 2022 1:48:59 GMT
It's past due. Time to bring down the whole institution just like bringing down the Catholic Church. The monarchy doesn't want people talking about any of this because dialogue will lead way to the truth. That's why they started the narrative that Harry & Meghan didn't want to be in the pubic eye. Now every time Harry & Meghan speak people focus on that false narrative.
Things have to get worse before they can get better.
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Post by ccl on Dec 15, 2022 13:05:35 GMT
For me, they have lied (been shown to be lying) about so many things that I don’t have the desire to sift what may be true. I feel, if they had stayed they would have been lesser royals (not lesser people but with a smaller role) and they didn’t like that. I feel fame is important to Meghan (personally I always felt it odd she invited people like Oprah and George Clooney to her wedding. There was no indication she knew them let alone was close to them. But they were famous) and she would want to be front and centre. Which is fine. So they chose to leave which was their choice to make. It seems it was at the expense of Harry’s relationship with his entire family but they’re not the first to break with their birth families. I think at this point they’ve made their distaste for the royal family clear. Again, that is fine and their choice to do so. I think this should be followed through by them giving up their titles (or having them taken) and letting them live as true private citizens.
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Dec 15, 2022 13:31:13 GMT
I guess where my confusion in all of this lies, is why if you want a more private life and go as far as leave the royal family and life, WHY care to keep bringing up all this supposed stuff..again?? It's almost like keeping the drama going and going. If they are so happy they're away from all of that, then I don't get why they just live life happily? Why the need to keep re-hashing? It doesn't portray either one, Harry or Meghan, in the best light at all IMO. On tv they mentioned this series, and how if the Queen were alive, she'd be absolutely heartbroken about the series.
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Post by nennie on Dec 15, 2022 14:12:02 GMT
I guess where my confusion in all of this lies, is why if you want a more private life and go as far as leave the royal family and life, WHY care to keep bringing up all this supposed stuff..again?? It's almost like keeping the drama going and going. If they are so happy they're away from all of that, then I don't get why they just live life happily? Why the need to keep re-hashing? It doesn't portray either one, Harry or Meghan, in the best light at all IMO. On tv they mentioned this series, and how if the Queen were alive, she'd be absolutely heartbroken about the series. I would say to keep them relevant in the public eye. They are like most waning celebrities they need to keep something going to keep them in the public eye. Harry was never going to be king. He knew that. The line of succession is way to long for him to ever be king. He just hooked up with a drama queen and walla this is where he is at now. Living a controversial life. Just want to say he has the 2 cutest kids.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 15, 2022 16:32:52 GMT
I guess where my confusion in all of this lies, is why if you want a more private life and go as far as leave the royal family and life, WHY care to keep bringing up all this supposed stuff..again?? It's almost like keeping the drama going and going. If they are so happy they're away from all of that, then I don't get why they just live life happily? Why the need to keep re-hashing? It doesn't portray either one, Harry or Meghan, in the best light at all IMO. On tv they mentioned this series, and how if the Queen were alive, she'd be absolutely heartbroken about the series. She had enough heartbreak, between Andrew and these two, she definitely had enough. I like being part of the commonwealth, some don't, and love all this.
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Post by Arielflies on Dec 16, 2022 16:37:32 GMT
They framed it in "heartstring" music throughout which added softness to even anger. It was just too soft.
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Post by rockytopchick on Dec 16, 2022 22:58:56 GMT
My mother watched the whole thing and since she lives with us, I saw enough of it to know that I don't want to sit down and watch it myself. To me the whole thing boils down to 2 people who want as much attention as possible and are getting more attention by complaining about the attention they were getting.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Dec 18, 2022 1:27:52 GMT
After reading all the negative comments about Meghan and Harry, I wasn't going to watch their documentary series, but this morning I thought I'd just take a peek at the 1st episode, and my gosh, I thought it was really, really well done, and I liked it so much that I sat and watched all 6 episodes. And you know what else, I believe them. I remember how badly they were treated by the other royals and the British press (especially the Daily Mail). And I remember the defamation law suit that they WON against the Daily Mail that LIED about them for years!
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Post by MissGriss on Dec 18, 2022 1:59:22 GMT
It's nice to hear that perspective, Imperfect1! I've watched a couple of episodes, and I'm still not quite sure what to think. I guess I'll watch a few more episodes and see where I land,
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 18, 2022 7:26:42 GMT
After reading all the negative comments about Meghan and Harry, I wasn't going to watch their documentary series, but this morning I thought I'd just take a peek at the 1st episode, and my gosh, I thought it was really, really well done, and I liked it so much that I sat and watched all 6 episodes. And you know what else, I believe them. I remember how badly they were treated by the other royals and the British press (especially the Daily Mail). And I remember the defamation law suit that they WON against the Daily Mail that LIED about them for years! I don't remember how badly they were treated by the other royals. Who paid for their lavish wedding, and who walked her down the aisle. They weren't treated badly imho. I listened to a royal correspondent, who was also a person of color, she said the Netflix episodes weren't anything we haven't heard before, and wondered why Harry is bothering with a book. She certainly wasn't nasty about it, but she said there were no bombshells either. .
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Post by nennie on Dec 18, 2022 12:01:28 GMT
After reading all the negative comments about Meghan and Harry, I wasn't going to watch their documentary series, but this morning I thought I'd just take a peek at the 1st episode, and my gosh, I thought it was really, really well done, and I liked it so much that I sat and watched all 6 episodes. And you know what else, I believe them. I remember how badly they were treated by the other royals and the British press (especially the Daily Mail). And I remember the defamation law suit that they WON against the Daily Mail that LIED about them for years! I don't remember how badly they were treated by the other royals. Who paid for their lavish wedding, and who walked her down the aisle. They weren't treated badly imho. I listened to a royal correspondent, who was also a person of color, she said the Netflix episodes weren't anything we haven't heard before, and wondered why Harry is bothering with a book. She certainly wasn't nasty about it, but she said there were no bombshells either. . I think with the Harry and Meghan situation there is truth and facts and then there is personal perception. I don't follow their story much because they really don't interest me but I have a personal perception of what little I do know.
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Post by amber on Dec 18, 2022 18:56:28 GMT
After reading all the negative comments about Meghan and Harry, I wasn't going to watch their documentary series, but this morning I thought I'd just take a peek at the 1st episode, and my gosh, I thought it was really, really well done, and I liked it so much that I sat and watched all 6 episodes. And you know what else, I believe them. I remember how badly they were treated by the other royals and the British press (especially the Daily Mail). And I remember the defamation law suit that they WON against the Daily Mail that LIED about them for years! I finished watching all six episodes. IMO, the first three episodes are hard to watch. The following three are juicier, however, also illustrate a not so pretty glipse into who Harry and Meghan truly are. It's that bad and seems as if Netflix intentionally screwed with the edit just to make the docudrama interesting. We watch Harry and Meghan tell the watching audience that they do a much better job at representing the monarchy than Charles, William, Kate and Queen Elizabeth herself and because of this, the Royal family are jealous, thus leaking and planting unflattering stories. What strikes me most about the entirety of Harry and Meghan's docudrama is that they are presented as entirely focused upon money. Not taxpayers' money or family money, although as I remember they insisted on a cut of the family money back then. Anyway, from watching all six episodes it seems to me what motivates Harry and Meghan most is that the media makes money gossiping about them, and they feel entitled to that money for themselves. In fact, it doesn't appear that they're making real money podcasting or reporting about themselves and, instead, they're raking it in by gossiping about and trashing the royal family. Also, many of their stories don't make sense. Imperfect1, Megan won her lawsuit against the press for publishing excerpts of Meghan's letter she wrote to her father. There was no defamation involved. Through discovery, it was proven that Meghan's father leaked the letter to the media, that Meghan lied by misrepresenting information to the court, forcing her to apologize to the court and evidence Meghan crafted the letter under the assumption it would be leaked to and published by the press. Regardless, although legally obtained, the courts ruled the media publishing excerpts was a violation of her privacy and, also, copyright infringement.
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Post by Cuddles on Dec 18, 2022 19:44:13 GMT
After reading all the negative comments about Meghan and Harry, I wasn't going to watch their documentary series, but this morning I thought I'd just take a peek at the 1st episode, and my gosh, I thought it was really, really well done, and I liked it so much that I sat and watched all 6 episodes. And you know what else, I believe them. I remember how badly they were treated by the other royals and the British press (especially the Daily Mail). And I remember the defamation law suit that they WON against the Daily Mail that LIED about them for years! How ironic that people are complaining about Harry and Meghan's audacity of hoping for an apology, while so many mistruths about them are being talked about as if they're gospel. They deserve so much better.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 18, 2022 20:30:55 GMT
After reading all the negative comments about Meghan and Harry, I wasn't going to watch their documentary series, but this morning I thought I'd just take a peek at the 1st episode, and my gosh, I thought it was really, really well done, and I liked it so much that I sat and watched all 6 episodes. And you know what else, I believe them. I remember how badly they were treated by the other royals and the British press (especially the Daily Mail). And I remember the defamation law suit that they WON against the Daily Mail that LIED about them for years! I finished watching all six episodes. IMO, the first three episodes are hard to watch. The following three are juicier, however, also illustrate a not so pretty glipse into who Harry and Meghan truly are. It's that bad and seems as if Netflix intentionally screwed with the edit just to make the docudrama interesting. We watch Harry and Meghan tell the watching audience that they do a much better job at representing the monarchy than Charles, William, Kate and Queen Elizabeth herself and because of this, the Royal family are jealous, thus leaking and planting unflattering stories. What strikes me most about the entirety of Harry and Meghan's docudrama is that they are presented as entirely focused upon money. Not taxpayers' money or family money, although as I remember they insisted on a cut of the family money back then. Anyway, from watching all six episodes it seems to me what motivates Harry and Meghan most is that the media makes money gossiping about them, and they feel entitled to that money for themselves. In fact, it doesn't appear that they're making real money podcasting or reporting about themselves and, instead, they're raking it in by gossiping about and trashing the royal family. Also, many of their stories don't make sense. Imperfect1, Megan won her lawsuit against the press for publishing excerpts of Meghan's letter she wrote to her father. There was no defamation involved. Through discovery, it was proven that Meghan's father leaked the letter to the media, that Meghan lied by misrepresenting information to the court, forcing her to apologize to the court and evidence Meghan crafted the letter under the assumption it would be leaked to and published by the press. Regardless, although legally obtained, the courts ruled the media publishing excerpts was a violation of her privacy and, also, copyright infringement. Why was everything recorded? Was this all planned. 🤔
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Post by Imperfect1 on Dec 19, 2022 5:05:33 GMT
After reading all the negative comments about Meghan and Harry, I wasn't going to watch their documentary series, but this morning I thought I'd just take a peek at the 1st episode, and my gosh, I thought it was really, really well done, and I liked it so much that I sat and watched all 6 episodes. And you know what else, I believe them. I remember how badly they were treated by the other royals and the British press (especially the Daily Mail). And I remember the defamation law suit that they WON against the Daily Mail that LIED about them for years! Imperfect1, Megan won her lawsuit against the press for publishing excerpts of Meghan's letter she wrote to her father. There was no defamation involved. Through discovery, it was proven that Meghan's father leaked the letter to the media, that Meghan lied by misrepresenting information to the court, forcing her to apologize to the court and evidence Meghan crafted the letter under the assumption it would be leaked to and published by the press. Regardless, although legally obtained, the courts ruled the media publishing excerpts was a violation of her privacy and, also, copyright infringement. You're absolutely right, amber! My bad. (Although I still think the British press lied about them, time and time again.)
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