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Post by FannyMare on Feb 26, 2019 0:57:48 GMT
I don't call what Kendall is wearing a dress, and I don't like what Miley or Rita are wearing either
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Post by beerbelly on Feb 26, 2019 1:06:05 GMT
Agreed! It was outstanding and such a joy. And having just finished a paper on LGBTQ youth, that message is wonderful to eschew normative masculinity. Plus, what a talent he is, I was lucky enough to see him on Broadway. (I'm bragging!)
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Post by Critical on Feb 26, 2019 1:35:11 GMT
Irina Shayk is a model, beerbelly. She makes nice money on her own, but I'm sure he pays her well too. I don't think she's probably jealous. I'm pretty sure theirs is a business arrangement
ETA: Some people want the fame and notoriety so badly that they don't care if they hurt someone's feelings. Even if that was a real relationship, he probably would do the same thing. Look at how much attention that song - and especially that moment between BCoop and Gaga - is getting this morning. Great for the career Plus, acting. Are you saying that Irina is Bradley's beard? I haven't heard anything about that. Don't they have a little daughter together? And Elton John was once married to a woman Bearding happens all the time - both for publicity AND for "cover" - and can include marriage AND children. You must read different sites than I do because there have been rumors about BC for years and lots of talk about their faux marriage.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Feb 26, 2019 1:44:36 GMT
I didn't think Bradley and Irina were married. I have only seen them listed as partners. I don't read any gossip sites but just meant I had never read anything anywhere implying he was gay. I don't care one way or another but why bring a child into a sham relationship? Elton never did.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 26, 2019 1:46:33 GMT
I didn't think Bradley and Irina were married. I have only seen them listed as partners. I don't read any gossip sites but just meant I had never read anything anywhere implying he was gay. I don't care one way or another but why bring a child into a sham relationship? Elton never did. I don't think he's gay, nah..
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Post by acookertv on Feb 26, 2019 1:53:46 GMT
I didn't think Bradley and Irina were married. I have only seen them listed as partners. I don't read any gossip sites but just meant I had never read anything anywhere implying he was gay. I don't care one way or another but why bring a child into a sham relationship? Elton never did. There can be a lot of reasons, some legitimate. If a woman is not in a relationship and chooses to have a baby on her own, is it a bad thing? If your answer to that is no, a PR contracted relationship can be the same. A woman gets a sperm donor and a higher profile that helps her professionally. A man gets a boost to his public image ... and may even want fatherhood in his life. These arrangements can include agreement up front and privately about the arrangement of parenthood. I agree it’s not okay to have a child for PR alone with no regard for the well being of the child. But that’s an assumption that may not be true. If rumors about Bradley and Irina are true, it does not mean the child does not have a life of love and care.
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Post by momrek06 on Feb 26, 2019 2:34:14 GMT
I just saw on TMZ LIVE that RAMI fell off the Stage last night after getting his OSCAR.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 26, 2019 2:35:02 GMT
I just saw on TMZ LIVE that RAMI fell off the Stage last night after getting his OSCAR. Is he okay???
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Post by momrek06 on Feb 26, 2019 2:38:30 GMT
I just saw on TMZ LIVE that RAMI fell off the Stage last night after getting his OSCAR. Is he okay??? YES absolutely fine. EMT's came and checked him out before he left for after parties. It was pretty scary watching it.
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Post by Arielflies on Feb 26, 2019 2:40:41 GMT
He was up and yakking backstage with Kelly Ripa for her Monday morning After Oscar show...said he was fine.
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Post by justCoz on Feb 26, 2019 5:43:28 GMT
Critical I agree about the orchestra being a better idea for the in memoriam segment. They always focus way too much on a singer when that should be about people they are memorializing. One thing I didn't like was when they had two pictures for one person. They could have fit several more people in that segment if they kept it to one picture per. I thought J-Hud wasn't always in tune either. She was really reaching for some of those notes and didn't quite make it. I did notice that two out of a few singers are AI alum. (And Fantasia sang at the Grammy's the other night.) It would almost seem they were trying to promote American Idol, but that wasn't mentioned. Plus, Adam's been singing with Queen for awile and Jennifer is an Oscar winner so it seemed right they were there. I liked that they kept the show mostly moving along, but it still ran long. I really didn't miss having a host and hope they continue that. I know the actresses don't like being only asked about their dresses, but that is why I tune in to a red carpet show. I don't care to see them interviewed. I may not tune in next year because I don't like the direction that is going. I basically only care about seeing the pretty (or not so pretty) dresses. I did love all the colored tuxes. The men still looked very nice as well as keeping with the formality of the occasion but with an added bonus of color.
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Post by Critical on Feb 26, 2019 5:53:36 GMT
Critical I agree about the orchestra being a better idea for the in memoriam segment. They always focus way too much on a singer when that should be about people they are memorializing. One thing I didn't like was when they had two pictures for one person. They could have fit several more people in that segment if they kept it to one picture per. I thought J-Hud wasn't always in tune either. She was really reaching for some of those notes and didn't quite make it. I did notice that two out of a few singers are AI alum. (And Fantasia sang at the Grammy's the other night.) It would almost seem they were trying to promote American Idol, but that wasn't mentioned. Plus, Adam's been singing with Queen for awile and Jennifer is an Oscar winner so it seemed right they were there. I liked that they kept the show mostly moving along, but it still ran long. I really didn't miss having a host and hope they continue that. I know the actresses don't like being only asked about their dresses, but that is why I tune in to a red carpet show. I don't care to see them interviewed. I may not tune in next year because I don't like the direction that is going. I basically only care about seeing the pretty (or not so pretty) dresses. I did love all the colored tuxes. The men still looked very nice as well as keeping with the formality of the occasion but with an added bonus of color. I don't like the red carpet shows because I HAAAATE all the a** kissing. It's just so embarrassing. Plus, half the time you know some of those "reporters" know very little about the person they're interviewing. I cringe every time they mispronounce a name or ask a really inane question. I do love it when the celeb hits back on those vapid questions about clothing. I usually just mute the red carpet show so I can see what everyone is wearing.
Not all of the clothes were a hit, but I enjoy seeing people take chances. I LOVED seeing all the guys in color! So much better than a sea of boring black tuxes. Even if they weren't all great, that's better, IMO, than being boring!
That tuxedo dress Billy Porter wore was A MOMENT. Loved it. He really pulled it off too and not many guys could.
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Post by Amy Lee on Feb 26, 2019 14:58:41 GMT
Irina Shayk is a model, beerbelly. She makes nice money on her own, but I'm sure he pays her well too. I don't think she's probably jealous. I'm pretty sure theirs is a business arrangement
ETA: Some people want the fame and notoriety so badly that they don't care if they hurt someone's feelings. Even if that was a real relationship, he probably would do the same thing. Look at how much attention that song - and especially that moment between BCoop and Gaga - is getting this morning. Great for the career Plus, acting. Are you saying that Irina is Bradley's beard? I haven't heard anything about that. Don't they have a little daughter together? That's the first I'm hearing of that opinion as well. They've been together for a while. Irina, unlike some women seems secure in her relationship. I spent some time on Marie Claire's FB page fending off all the projections being thrown her way. Lol The Vanity Fair Oscar portraits were released on Instagram today. Lupita, Selma, Sophie & Joe, and a few others look gorgeous, so check it out if you haven't already!
My outfit of the night goes to Billy Porter in Christian Siriano. That velvet tux-dress was awesome.
Billy Porters outfit was fantastic and fit his persona so well ... and fit his body quite well too! I took note of it last night, but loved it even more when I heard him talk about it. Hearing him say that when a woman wears pants she’s applauded for being fierce and embracing masculinity, but when a man wears a skirt he’s questioned for embracing femininity and he wanted to challenge that. LOVE that message! Loved Billy Porter's look. And he's right.
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Post by sweetmermaid1 on Feb 26, 2019 16:47:23 GMT
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Post by libgirl2 on Feb 26, 2019 17:20:03 GMT
Critical I agree about the orchestra being a better idea for the in memoriam segment. They always focus way too much on a singer when that should be about people they are memorializing. One thing I didn't like was when they had two pictures for one person. They could have fit several more people in that segment if they kept it to one picture per. I thought J-Hud wasn't always in tune either. She was really reaching for some of those notes and didn't quite make it. I did notice that two out of a few singers are AI alum. (And Fantasia sang at the Grammy's the other night.) It would almost seem they were trying to promote American Idol, but that wasn't mentioned. Plus, Adam's been singing with Queen for awile and Jennifer is an Oscar winner so it seemed right they were there. I liked that they kept the show mostly moving along, but it still ran long. I really didn't miss having a host and hope they continue that. I know the actresses don't like being only asked about their dresses, but that is why I tune in to a red carpet show. I don't care to see them interviewed. I may not tune in next year because I don't like the direction that is going. I basically only care about seeing the pretty (or not so pretty) dresses. I did love all the colored tuxes. The men still looked very nice as well as keeping with the formality of the occasion but with an added bonus of color. I don't like the red carpet shows because I HAAAATE all the a** kissing. It's just so embarrassing. Plus, half the time you know some of those "reporters" know very little about the person they're interviewing. I cringe every time they mispronounce a name or ask a really inane question. I do love it when the celeb hits back on those vapid questions about clothing. I usually just mute the red carpet show so I can see what everyone is wearing.
Not all of the clothes were a hit, but I enjoy seeing people take chances. I LOVED seeing all the guys in color! So much better than a sea of boring black tuxes. Even if they weren't all great, that's better, IMO, than being boring!
That tuxedo dress Billy Porter wore was A MOMENT. Loved it. He really pulled it off too and not many guys could.
What always bothers me on the red carpet it they can be talking to someone and a bigger celeb goes by and they are like.... lets talk to so and so, leaving the first person standing there.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Feb 26, 2019 21:32:55 GMT
www.msn.com/en-us/movies/oscars/outrage-after-green-book-writer-says-he-didnt-know-don-shirleys-family-really-existed/ar-BBU2Se3?ocid=spartanntp‘Green Book’ Writer Says He Didn’t Know Don Shirley’s Family ‘Really Existed’ After Green Book won the Oscar, its writer, Nick Vallelonga, said he didn’t really realize his father’s friend Don Shirley had a family. His tone-deaf remarks ensured that a potent well of irritation and anger over the award of the Best Picture to Green Book bubbled over on online forums and social media. Vallelonga, the screenwriter of the movie, who is the son of the white character portrayed in the film, said he didn’t get in touch with black classical pianist Don Shirley’s family because he, “didn’t even know they really existed until after we were making the film.” The son of Tony ‘the Lip’ Vallelonga who drove the musician on a tour of the Jim Crow-era Deep South in the 1960s, also claimed backstage that Don Shirley had told him not to get in contact with his family before his death, saying: “The Don Shirley family thing falls on me but Don Shirley himself told me not to speak to anyone. He told me the story that he wanted to tell, he protected his private life and all other things about him, miraculous things about him.” Vallelonga said, “He told me, if you’re going to tell the story, tell it from your father, me, don’t speak to anyone else, that’s how you have to make it.”
Vallelonga concluded his remarks by saying, “I kept my word to that man, I wish I could reach out to Don Shirley’s family, I really didn’t know they existed until we finished the film.”The remarks are likely to go down badly with Don Shirley’s nephew Edwin Shirley III, who claims his uncle rejected the idea of a movie about his tour. “I remember very, very clearly, going back 30 years, my uncle had been approached by Nick Vallelonga, the son of Tony Vallelonga, about a movie on his life, and Uncle Donald told me about it,” Edwin told Shadow and Act in December. “He flatly refused.” Mahershala Ali, who won the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor, has apologized for not contacting Shirley’s family. They say the movie exaggerates Shirley’s relationship with his driver. Critics have also questioned sequences where Tony introduces Don to the music of Little Richard, and encourages him to eat fried chicken.
Spike Lee rose from his seat and walked to the back of the theater as the movie was crowned Best Picture. During the film’s victory speech, Lee reportedly had his back turned to the stage.The awards for Green Book have led to angry and sarcastic exchanges on twitter and other social media platforms.
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Post by MissScarlet on Feb 26, 2019 22:48:11 GMT
Maybe I'm alone in this, but exact accuracy in a storyline isn't all that important to me. Movies are about escapism, telling a story in an entertaining manner. I've never been one to see a movie about real people & figure the story is an exact depiction of the real story. I see these movies as an interpretation written by the writers & film makers to entertain the viewers & make some money. Many times even the characters aren't real, but rather based on numerous people all bundled together into one character. I accept that just fine. This is in order to tell the story more efficiently that the film makers want to tell. To an extent they are all fiction. I'm fine with that.
I haven't seen the movie yet, so I can't speak on the entertainment value of it, but I do plan to see it. Other people I know have seen it & say it's very good. That's all that matters to me.
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Post by Critical on Feb 27, 2019 0:16:49 GMT
^^^^ I care very much when the revision involves the tired and racist trope of the "white savior" and the "magical negro." This is 2019. We need to be better than that. Things can be entertaining without that nonsense. It helps NO ONE.
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Post by Critical on Feb 27, 2019 3:18:15 GMT
This SO hits the nail on the head:
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Post by beerbelly on Feb 27, 2019 12:42:06 GMT
OMG!! I'm dying! This is perfect....and "Rosa...and Kevin" and the "racist is so over-the-top that it makes other racists feel good".
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Post by acookertv on Feb 27, 2019 13:45:08 GMT
Amber Ruffin has such a tremendous gift for calling people out with such a smile on her face that they're grateful she's called them out ... and then realize a few hours later they should be embarrassed.
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Post by Kao on Feb 27, 2019 16:40:56 GMT
This SO hits the nail on the head:
This clip completely covered everything I despise about these sort of movies! Bravo!
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 27, 2019 17:46:20 GMT
Maybe I'm alone in this, but exact accuracy in a storyline isn't all that important to me. Movies are about escapism, telling a story in an entertaining manner. I've never been one to see a movie about real people & figure the story is an exact depiction of the real story. I see these movies as an interpretation written by the writers & film makers to entertain the viewers & make some money. Many times even the characters aren't real, but rather based on numerous people all bundled together into one character. I accept that just fine. This is in order to tell the story more efficiently that the film makers want to tell. To an extent they are all fiction. I'm fine with that. I haven't seen the movie yet, so I can't speak on the entertainment value of it, but I do plan to see it. Other people I know have seen it & say it's very good. That's all that matters to me. I have it on hold at the library.
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Post by libgirl2 on Feb 27, 2019 18:17:17 GMT
Maybe I'm alone in this, but exact accuracy in a storyline isn't all that important to me. Movies are about escapism, telling a story in an entertaining manner. I've never been one to see a movie about real people & figure the story is an exact depiction of the real story. I see these movies as an interpretation written by the writers & film makers to entertain the viewers & make some money. Many times even the characters aren't real, but rather based on numerous people all bundled together into one character. I accept that just fine. This is in order to tell the story more efficiently that the film makers want to tell. To an extent they are all fiction. I'm fine with that. I haven't seen the movie yet, so I can't speak on the entertainment value of it, but I do plan to see it. Other people I know have seen it & say it's very good. That's all that matters to me. I have it on hold at the library. So do I.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Feb 27, 2019 20:48:20 GMT
^^^^ I care very much when the revision involves the tired and racist trope of the "white savior" and the "magical negro." This is 2019. We need to be better than that. Things can be entertaining without that nonsense. It helps NO ONE. Thank you for this post. It means a lot to me. I come from a mixed race family. I am a white as can be white Swede, My Dad is not lol When I was a child people would do a suspicious double take because why was this colored man holding the hand of a little whit girl, At work my Dad was the 'magical negro' at times. He didn't tell about it like that ;but I could tell there was a different atmosphere sometimes when his work friends came over. They treated him like knowing him and 'accepting' him meant they weren't racist. As he rose in rank at his workplace people were surprised by it. They congratulated him and slapped him on the back. But, it was more like they were surprised he had the ability to better himself. So, the novia just makes me so mad. This movie also completely erases the truth about Dr. Shirley and his family. The book and movie is about Tony , DR. Shirley is 'the magical negro' for Tony. And because Tony drives Dr. Shirley about, he is no longer racist. I'm not even going to touch the 'White Savior' point of view in this movie. I think there are too many older members in the academy . They like sanitized movies like this that give us a rosy picture about a white man and a black man becoming friends.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Feb 27, 2019 20:57:34 GMT
This SO hits the nail on the head:
Oh my god, it's dead on!!! My Dads life! Painfully funny. Oh, sometimes people would tell him they loved jazz, assuming my Dad loves jazz. My Dad hates jazz.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Feb 27, 2019 21:11:24 GMT
Roger Taylor Oscar Interview With Piers Morgan 2019 - Bohemian Rhapsody ... youtu.be/DeBQM40fZMg via @youtube Here's a interview with Queens Roger Taylor after the Oscars.
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Post by Critical on Feb 28, 2019 3:12:03 GMT
I think there are too many older members in the academy . They like sanitized movies like this that give us a rosy picture about a white man and a black man becoming friends. IMO, they vote for movies like that because it makes them feel like they're not actually as racist as they are.
I'm still smarting from Crash winning out of the clearly superior in every way Brokeback Mountain for Best Picture. Years later, there are still stories about the behind-the-scenes machinations (and possible bribery) surrounding that win.
Unfortunately, SO often, the "best" in whatever category isn't the winner...and sometimes they aren't even nominated.
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Post by Amy Lee on Feb 28, 2019 12:59:16 GMT
This SO hits the nail on the head:
This clip completely covered everything I despise about these sort of movies! Bravo!
I saw it and showed it to my husband. We were both cracking up.
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Post by dancingqueen on Mar 2, 2019 14:46:13 GMT
I actually like the Oscars this years. I saw 4 of the Best Picture nominees this year in Black Panther, Bohemian Rhapsody, Roma, and Green Book. I have to say and this is not slighting the other 4 movies I did not see, but they did get it correct. Roma was a cinematography masterpiece but a places fell short in the story, Black Panther was a fantastic story and visually stunning, but definitely not an Oscar worthy movie. Bohemian Rhapsody, although a very good movie and a fantastic performance by Rami Malik the movie was not on par with the next movie I saw. Green Book was outstanding in all areas. The acting by the entire cast was amazing. The story kept you in the movie the entire time. The movie was not as visually spectacular as say a Roma or even Black Panther, but it was still very nice to watch. Overall Green Book entertained me throughout the entire movie.
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