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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 20, 2018 23:58:17 GMT
I don’t know how she could be when they all communicate and figure out she was behind the threats.
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Post by betty80 on Jul 21, 2018 1:10:26 GMT
I don’t know how she could be when they all communicate and figure out she was behind the threats. That's a good point. It wouldn't make sense to hire her.
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 22, 2018 10:55:00 GMT
I watched the last few episodes hoping that the writing would get better but nope, still the same old boring and repetitive Steffy-Liam-Hope love triangle storyline over and over again as always, I despise Bill but now I don't want Steffy with the forever indecisive Liam either, I think Steffy should just dump ping pong boy and take a break from dating for a while and just concentrate on her daughter for now. Although a part of me was hoping that Steffy might reconnect with Wyatt, I liked them together, I thought they were quite compatible together, if I remember correctly Steffy & Wyatt were married before she went back to Liam...she probably should've just stayed with Wyatt. I'm not interested in the Wyatt & Sally and Thorne & Katie relationships either, and I still don't care about the new characters, what are their names again?  I think I skipped about 70% of the episodes lately. Sad to see that the writing on B&B is still as boring and horrible as ever
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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 22, 2018 15:41:34 GMT
Yes, Steffy was married to Wyatt when Liam was being “cared for” by Quinn. She thought Liam had left her. She had to have her tattooed ring from that wedding removed. I would really like Bill’s new plan to work. I agree with Brooke when she schooled Liam on how every time he ended up with Steffy it was because she and Bill had tricked him. She slept willingly with Bill. It would thrill me no end if it would come out to Thorn that Steffy killed his daughter, or even if someone reminded Liam about that and how she ruthlessly bullied Ivy who had evidence. 😄 I am obviously not a Steffy fan and know some of you here are, so I’ll agree now to differ.
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 22, 2018 16:58:43 GMT
well technically Brooke was wrong because when Steffy left Wyatt for Liam, it was Liam himself who literally begged Steffy to go back to him, Liam realised he still loved Steffy and wanted her back, he even competed with Wyatt for Steffy, there was no trick or manipulation...well, except the manipulation from Quinn, who tricked Liam so Steffy could be with Wyatt. I guess the writers have completely forgotten about that whole storyline of Quinn kidnapping Liam so Steffy could be with Wyatt, and then Liam begging for Steffy to go back to him.
Once again the forever bed-hopping Brooke sitting on her high horse when she's in no position to criticise or judge Steffy because Brooke herself has been the master of manipulations and lies for many decades, she was an even worse manipulator than Steffy ever was, Brooke is nothing but a glorified hypocrite on the show, she's hardly creditable...then again who is? Everyone seems to be a hypocrite on B&B, but Brooke is the queen of all hypocrites.
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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 22, 2018 17:44:32 GMT
I wasn’t clear... every time Liam ended up with Steffy over Hope, it was because she and Bill had tricked them.
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 22, 2018 17:57:44 GMT
I still don't believe that's completely true, because the feelings should already be there for Liam to fall for those so called "tricks", he wouldn't constantly fall for them if he didn't already have feelings for Steffy, so to some extent, all those times he ended up with Steffy would've been largely based on Liam's own feelings, it wouldn't work if it was all just manipulations and tricks. The thing is, ping pong boy has loved both Steffy and Hope for a long time and he was never able to really make up his damn mind, thus why he constantly jumps back and fourth between them both.
At this point I'd rather prefer Steffy go back to Wyatt, or take a break from her lovelife and just concentrate on her daughter who should be her top priority now.
And anyway, I'm sure many of you love to sing high praises for Hope, but the truth is in the world of B&B, Hope is also a hypocrite, she constantly criticises and judges Steffy for her many infidelities and betrayals of Liam yet Hope herself has had affairs with Liam numerous times while he was with Steffy, and she continues to have affairs with Liam even though he is engaged to Steffy. Both Liam and Hope are just as much cheaters as Steffy is.
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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 22, 2018 19:56:34 GMT
Agree to disagree. 🙂
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 22, 2018 20:47:47 GMT
you're entitled to your own opinions, but it's so obvious that ping pong boy loves both women and can't make up his damn mind.
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Post by momrek06 on Jul 22, 2018 21:38:13 GMT
Absolutely agree with Gutmutter about HOPE. Hope is NOTHING like stUffy. N.O.T.H.I.N.G And I am coming from someone who has watched from literally day one. I actually remember Brooke picking the name HOPE for her daughter as there was so much turmoil in her life with Deacon and her own daughter Bridget who was MARRIED to Deacon at the time. Brooke was just simply " hoping" her life would get better with her new infant daughter. Hence the name HOPE.
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 23, 2018 8:10:20 GMT
well from what I can see, many Hope fans have their blindfolds on, same goes for Brooke fans, and I have watched every episode of B&B too. Hypocrisy and double-standards run rampant on this show, and same goes for its fandom it seems. Especially Brooke fans are the worst when it comes to having double-standards.
No matter how much you Hope fans want to defend her, it doesn't change the fact that she's having an affair with another woman's fiance, a fiance who has a daughter, like it or not that makes Hope a homewrecker, just like her mother is. Hope is also a manipulator, the only difference is that Hope is more discreet about it than Steffy is, while Steffy is more obvious. On the surface Hope loves to act like a caring angel, but deep down she knows exactly how to manipulate Liam just as much as Steffy does, at least Steffy is being true to herself, while Hope loves to play the "innocent angel" card and wrap everyone around her little finger, whilst manipulating everyone into thinking she's this sweet and caring woman, all the while hiding her hypocrisy and flaws. Hope is meticulous, obviously she's learned some tricks from mommy dearest, like mother like daughter, Brooke and Hope are the ultimate mother & daughter duo of deceptive manipulators on B&B. They are better manipulators than Steffy because they're able to hide their hypocrisy and manipulations better and more discreetly than Steffy and are able to effortlessly wrap everyone around their little fingers, and their fans are all falling for their acts too, that's a sign of true master manipulators. Steffy on the other hand is sloppy at hiding her deviousness and flaws, making people more aware of her flaws. But deep down both Brooke and Hope are no better, they're just better at playing the game than Steffy is, but I'm not falling for their deceptive hypocrisy and flaws, it's sad that many others are though.
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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 23, 2018 14:01:15 GMT
Wow. I really don’t want to respond to all this, but Hope got pregnant when SHE was Liam’s fiancée. I don’t see where she was having an affair when he was engaged to Steffy. They were divorced.
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 23, 2018 14:10:49 GMT
if you have watched the previews for the upcoming episodes, Liam & Hope will continue with their affair even though Liam went back to Steffy and is now engaged to her, ergo making Hope a homewrecker. And lets not forget that Liam & Hope fooled around while Liam was still married to Steffy, this has happened numerous times in the past too, it's so rich and pathetic of Hope and Liam (and Brooke) to be sitting on their high horses and criticise and judge Steffy for her many infidelities when Liam himself has cheated and betrayed Steffy many times before, in fact Liam has cheated on and betrayed many women over the years, and Hope is a homewrecker and just as manipulative as Steffy, they are both no better than Steffy and are in no position to judge, they're all a bunch of hypocrites. Seriously, ping pong boy and phony "angel" deserve each other. Steffy was better with Wyatt anyway, at least Wyatt wasn't hypocritical with her.
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Post by momrek06 on Jul 23, 2018 15:20:31 GMT
OMG.......stUffy's HISTORY of cheating and scamming people wayyyyyyyy exceeds most of the B&B cast, let alone HOPE........stUffy has NO clue how to be a TRIED AND TRUE person AT ALL. Look at her ROLE model of a MOTHER........shows up in town and SHOOTS Bill in cold blood...........  All stUffy's SCHEMING with Bill got her in all this DRAMA with her life. Sleeping with her HUSBAND's FATHER ............. how LOW can one person get.........the LOWEST OF LOWS.............. I am PRAYING that BOLD puts LIAM and HOPE  together and stUffy and Bill,  the two evils can sail off to some far away island!!!
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 23, 2018 16:07:32 GMT
You still have your blindfolds on I see, did you forget the horrible scheming "role model" of a mother that Hope has, forget the many DECADES of lies and manipulations and despicable acts that forever slutty Brooke has pulled on just about everyone? Did you forget that Brooke has slept with her OWN daughter's husband before? Yes, she had an affair with her own son-in-law! That's just as despicable as Steffy sleeping with Bill! But at least with Steffy and Bill, it only happened that ONE time, but Brooke actually had an affair with her son-in-law! And she had affairs with both Ridge and Thorne while they were both her stepsons! Brooke also stole many other men from other women. Brooke has done many things that are just as despicable and even worse, yet many people just give her free pass for her many DECADES of despicable behavior. Brooke's track record of her many lies and deceptions and schemes stretches much longer than anyone else on the show, MUCH longer than Steffy and Taylor, Brooke has been the forever manipulating slut that she is since day 1. Now she is teaching her daughter her many tricks. And while Taylor has gone mad since she came back from the dead, don't forget that Taylor wasn't always like this, Brooke would be dead if Taylor had not selflessly RISKED HER OWN LIFE TO PROTECT BROOKE from Sheila, remember that Brooke fans! The only reason your precious Brooke is even alive today is because Taylor selflessly risked her own life to save her!
Even with Steffy's many lies and schemes, at least she's always been true to herself, she doesn't try to hide who she is, she's devious and she shows it. Same with Taylor, she has been driven crazy now, but at least she's honest about it, she was an alcoholic and she admits it, she accidentally killed Darla and she admitted that too, and she shot Bill and she admitted that too. Unlike the phony mother & daughter master manipulators Brooke & Hope who sits on their hypocritical high horses pretending to be "nice" and "sweet" when they're far from it, they are hypocrites, and they are manipulators and they both know it, yet they pretend to be nice and play the "innocent" card and effortlessly wrapping everyone around their little fingers, fooling everyone including their fans into thinking they're "innocent" when they're not. Steffy & Taylor may be a lot of things, but at least they don't try to hide their flaws. Brooke and Hope on the other hand are as phony and deceptive as they come, they act high and mighty and so self-righteous and they never take responsibility for their own actions, Brooke with her many decades of lies and deception and manipulations has yet to admit all her wrongdoings and instead she's pretending that they never happened, and acting like she's never done anything wrong, pathetic. And Hope being the homewrecker and manipulator that she is, continues to slither her way back into Liam's life and manipulating him whilst still pretending to act all "innocent" and "sweet".
Please, the blatant hypocrisy and double-standards and the many denials from Brooke and Hope fans are astounding.
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Post by fang2170 on Jul 23, 2018 16:28:10 GMT
I'd prefer neither Hope nor Steffy be with Liam. It has nothing to do with their standards, but rather, Liam's. He IS wishy-washy, pinging and ponging between these two women. He has proven over and over again that he is unable to commit fully to anyone (he broke Sally and Ivy's hearts too....).
He can be a perfectly good father to both of his children, but he does NOT have to be married to either of the women.
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 23, 2018 16:41:20 GMT
I agree with you about Liam, he is wishy washy, constantly jumping back and fourth between both women and could never make up his damn mind, he has cheated on and betrayed them both many times before and he will continue to do so, he is incapable of being faithful to just 1 woman, he will always cheat because he is so indecisive, any woman who ends up with him is always bound to have their hearts broken by him, ping pong boy is not worth it. Yet he acts all high and mighty and self-righteous when he himself is actually guilty of being unfaithful many times before, he's one of the biggest hypocrites on B&B.
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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 23, 2018 17:07:09 GMT
You still have your blindfolds on I see, did you forget the horrible scheming "role model" of a mother that Hope has, forget the many DECADES of lies and manipulations and despicable acts that forever slutty Brooke has pulled on just about everyone? Did you forget that Brooke has slept with her OWN daughter's husband before? Yes, she had an affair with her own son-in-law! That's just as despicable as Steffy sleeping with Bill! But at least with Steffy and Bill, it only happened that ONE time, but Brooke actually had an affair with her son-in-law! And she had affairs with both Ridge and Thorne while they were both her stepsons! Brooke also stole many other men from other women. Brooke has done many things that are just as despicable and even worse, yet many people just give her free pass for her many DECADES of despicable behavior. Brooke's track record of her many lies and deceptions and schemes stretches much longer than anyone else on the show, MUCH longer than Steffy and Taylor, Brooke has been the forever manipulating slut that she is since day 1. Now she is teaching her daughter her many tricks. And while Taylor has gone mad since she came back from the dead, don't forget that Taylor wasn't always like this, Brooke would be dead if Taylor had not selflessly RISKED HER OWN LIFE TO PROTECT BROOKE from Sheila, remember that Brooke fans! The only reason your precious Brooke is even alive today is because Taylor selflessly risked her own life to save her! Even with Steffy's many lies and schemes, at least she's always been true to herself, she doesn't try to hide who she is, she's devious and she shows it. Same with Taylor, she has been driven crazy now, but at least she's honest about it, she was an alcoholic and she admits it, she accidentally killed Darla and she admitted that too, and she shot Bill and she admitted that too. Unlike the phony mother & daughter master manipulators Brooke & Hope who sits on their hypocritical high horses pretending to be "nice" and "sweet" when they're far from it, they are hypocrites, and they are manipulators and they both know it, yet they pretend to be nice and play the "innocent" card and effortlessly wrapping everyone around their little fingers, fooling everyone including their fans into thinking they're "innocent" when they're not. Steffy & Taylor may be a lot of things, but at least they don't try to hide their flaws. Brooke and Hope on the other hand are as phony and deceptive as they come, they act high and mighty and so self-righteous and they never take responsibility for their own actions, Brooke with her many decades of lies and deception and manipulations has yet to admit all her wrongdoings and instead she's pretending that they never happened, and acting like she's never done anything wrong, pathetic. And Hope being the homewrecker and manipulator that she is, continues to slither her way back into Liam's life and manipulating him whilst still pretending to act all "innocent" and "sweet". Please, the blatant hypocrisy and double-standards and the many denials from Brooke and Hope fans are astounding. It is ok to bash the characters all you want, but it is NOT allowed to bash other FORTers. Check your first and last sentences.
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 23, 2018 17:30:41 GMT
I'm not "bashing" other users here, I'm bashing the characters.
Saying that Brooke and Hope fans are in denial and having their blindfolds on is not "bashing", it's an observation of Brooke and Hope fans in general, not an attack on FORT members specifically. Maybe I didn't phrase my comments clearly I don't know, but in case I didn't before I want to make things clear that I'm referring to all Brooke & Hope fans in general, and not any specific fans.
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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 23, 2018 18:32:04 GMT
Hee hee! Get your popcorn ready... tomorrow’s going to be GOOD! 🍿🍿
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Post by betty80 on Jul 23, 2018 20:29:26 GMT
The best part of the Xander/Emma?Zoe storyline is that cute little cat. I want to see Steffy's full reaction tomorrow.
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 23, 2018 21:25:25 GMT
Finally the self-righteous hypocrites have been caught in the act, ping ping boy is not worth it, the home-wrecking phony Hopeless can have him if she wants, hopefully now Steffy will finally kick them both to the curb and move on with her life with her beautiful daughter and stop wasting her time with them.
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Post by fang2170 on Jul 24, 2018 20:37:17 GMT
Finally the self-righteous hypocrites have been caught in the act, ping ping boy is not worth it, the home-wrecking phony Hopeless can have him if she wants, hopefully now Steffy will finally kick them both to the curb and move on with her life with her beautiful daughter and stop wasting her time with them. I haven't watched today's show yet, so haven't seen or heard the fallout, but I couldn't help but feel a little bad for Steffy walking in on that. Maybe she will finally see that Liam cannot commit and move on with her life. The sad thing is, the situation could've been completely interchangeable...Hope walking in on Steffy and Liam, which would've been equally painful. Hell, we just may see that in the weeks to come! Liam CANNOT and WILL NOT commit to either of these women. I wouldn't put it past him to start sniffing around Sally Spectra again, for no other reason than she's involved with his brother! Liam is a fickle one, that's for sure.
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 24, 2018 21:35:37 GMT
I watched today's episode and I have to say I loved it! I especially loved the confrontation scene when Steffy caught ping pong boy and phony Hopeless together in her dressing room...while I did felt bad for Steffy for being so heartbroken, but I loved that she called them out on their hypocrisy and put them in their place, that was great, you go Steffy, tell those 2 self-righteous hypocrites the truth!  Hopefully now Steffy can finally kick that wishy washy Liam to the curb for good and move on with her life, he's not worth it, let him and phony Hopeless be together, they deserve each other. After many weeks of boring episodes, finally we get an ep that's actually interesting.
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Post by betty80 on Jul 24, 2018 22:21:56 GMT
Yes, finally an interesting episode. Liam is a hypocrite. I don't know if I like Hope or Steffy better, but I liked it when Steffy told Hope to not talk. I think the actress did a good job.
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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 24, 2018 22:37:37 GMT
Steffy was perfectly coiffed and dressed in sleek black for her transition to the dark side... Bill welcomes his Bride of Frankenstein with open arms. 😏
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 24, 2018 23:16:05 GMT
Yes, finally an interesting episode. Liam is a hypocrite. I don't know if I like Hope or Steffy better, but I liked it when Steffy told Hope to not talk. I think the actress did a good job. I love that part too, phony Hopeless ain't "innocent", I'm glad Steffy put these 2 hypocrites in their place. And Jacqueline Wood is a very good actress, I'm glad she was nominated for 'Outstanding supporting actress' at this year's Daytime Emmys.
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Post by momrek06 on Jul 24, 2018 23:31:28 GMT
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 24, 2018 23:58:29 GMT
Those 2 self-righteous hypocrites deserve each other.
At least Steffy is true to herself unlike those 2 phonies, what makes hypocrites like wishy washy Liam and phony Hopeless worse is that they're hypocrites but they act so self-righteous and pretend to be "innocent", pathetic. Steffy is better off without those 2 self-righteous hypocritical phonies in her life.
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Post by betty80 on Jul 25, 2018 17:56:04 GMT
Why can't the writers ever allow a character to just be single? They just bounce from one relationship to another.
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