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Post by Gutmutter on Jan 8, 2021 1:03:07 GMT
Victoria is a nasty, bitter witch these days. That business with Phyllis was totally unnecessary. Just spiteful and mean. Getting Billy to do the expose on Adam was low, too. She can suck eggs on Billily. Summer is equally bitter and underhanded. I hope she trips herself up with her Sally shenanigans. Jack is in Sally’s corner and will not take kindly to Summer stabbing her in the back. If it pushes Sally and Jack closer together, I’m ok with that, though. Poor Chelsea.
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Post by momrek06 on Jan 8, 2021 2:03:19 GMT
Within the last week or so, it has become apparent that Victoria is VERY jealous of Billy and Lily's relationship. Billy accused her of using their son to sabotage he and Lily's Christmas plans in New Orleans. Then he told her they had a great time in good ol' Genoa City, to which Victoria hissed that she was "glad they had a great time" Summer is equally jealous of Sally and she's headed to L.A. to see what dirt she can dig up on her. Wonder if Sally will manage to seduce Kyle while Summer is out of town? Poor Chelsea She is in rough shape after suffering a stroke. It is a good thing Victor stepped in with specialists to care for her. It goes to show that Victor will never give up on his other son, regardless of how vindictive and scheming Adam is towards him. First of all, fang2170 and Gutmutter .... did we lose any Y&R episodes? Because we went from Tuesday to Thursday with no WED epi??? OK fang2170 .... today when Victoria chatted with Billy at Society about Christmas .... I thought it was ODD of Victoria to ask Billy how his trip with Lily was ..... Billy tells Victoria that they did not go because they (L&B) felt that they might get delayed getting home for Christmas AND Billy said he did not want to disappoint the kids by not making it back for Christmas Day. OK it is now Jan 7th in Genoa City and when Billy showed up on Christmas Day to see Katie and Johnny, wouldn't Victoria know or ASK about his trip and whether he and Lily actually went on the trip???? Why is she talking about his trip that would have happened December 24th on Jan 7th.............WRITERS YOU ARE SO SLOPPY.
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Post by momrek06 on Jan 8, 2021 2:14:19 GMT
Victoria is a nasty, bitter witch these days. That business with Phyllis was totally unnecessary. Just spiteful and mean. Getting Billy to do the expose on Adam was low, too. She can suck eggs on Billily. Summer is equally bitter and underhanded. I hope she trips herself up with her Sally shenanigans. Jack is in Sally’s corner and will not take kindly to Summer stabbing her in the back. If it pushes Sally and Jack closer together, I’m ok with that, though. Poor Chelsea. Gutmutter and fang2170 ........ I AGREE. Victoria is JEALOUS of Lily and Billy. She is so MEAN since the show returned after their covid hiatus. This is a NASTY Victoria. What is going on with Summer ....... because quite frankly I can NOT stand her and I FF through ALL HER SCENES. I did hear her say today she was going to L.A. WHY? She is hating on Sally? The thing with Jack and being in people's corner's ...... Jack always seemed to be in Theo's corner but when it really mattered Jack did not stand up for him. Like when Kyle burst out loud laughing in Theo's face because #1 he did not get an Abbott invite to the reading of Dina's WILL and #2 when they were done reading Dina's WILL, all he got was a PEN. Again Kyle laughed at it and Jack stood by and did not tell Kyle to SHUT HIS MOUTH.
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Post by Gutmutter on Jan 8, 2021 7:48:13 GMT
Yeah, I haven’t been a fan of Kyle’s since he dumped Lola out of the blue. Summer is going to LA to dig up dirt on Sally at Forrester. I only got half an episode yesterday before news cut in.
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Post by fang2170 on Jan 8, 2021 15:51:11 GMT
Within the last week or so, it has become apparent that Victoria is VERY jealous of Billy and Lily's relationship. Billy accused her of using their son to sabotage he and Lily's Christmas plans in New Orleans. Then he told her they had a great time in good ol' Genoa City, to which Victoria hissed that she was "glad they had a great time" Summer is equally jealous of Sally and she's headed to L.A. to see what dirt she can dig up on her. Wonder if Sally will manage to seduce Kyle while Summer is out of town? Poor Chelsea She is in rough shape after suffering a stroke. It is a good thing Victor stepped in with specialists to care for her. It goes to show that Victor will never give up on his other son, regardless of how vindictive and scheming Adam is towards him. First of all, fang2170 and Gutmutter .... did we lose any Y&R episodes? Because we went from Tuesday to Thursday with no WED epi??? OK fang2170 .... today when Victoria chatted with Billy at Society about Christmas .... I thought it was ODD of Victoria to ask Billy how his trip with Lily was ..... Billy tells Victoria that they did not go because they (L&B) felt that they might get delayed getting home for Christmas AND Billy said he did not want to disappoint the kids by not making it back for Christmas Day. OK it is now Jan 7th in Genoa City and when Billy showed up on Christmas Day to see Katie and Johnny, wouldn't Victoria know or ASK about his trip and whether he and Lily actually went on the trip???? Why is she talking about his trip that would have happened December 24th on Jan 7th.............WRITERS YOU ARE SO SLOPPY. Good catch, Kar. If Billy was with his kids on Christmas day, you'd think Victoria would've known he and Lily didn't go out of town. I'm assuming Victoria was present during the visit, but maybe not. That would be one explanation. Or if she was present, there was no mention of Lily during the visit. I could actually see Victoria narrowing her eyes at Billy at the door and hissing, "No mention of that other woman in MY house or in front of the kids!"
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Post by fang2170 on Jan 8, 2021 16:01:38 GMT
Victoria is a nasty, bitter witch these days. That business with Phyllis was totally unnecessary. Just spiteful and mean. Getting Billy to do the expose on Adam was low, too. She can suck eggs on Billily. Summer is equally bitter and underhanded. I hope she trips herself up with her Sally shenanigans. Jack is in Sally’s corner and will not take kindly to Summer stabbing her in the back. If it pushes Sally and Jack closer together, I’m ok with that, though. Poor Chelsea. Jack is becoming Sally's champion. I approve!
It is pissing off Summer, and it is a sign these two are getting closer. I hope it moves beyond their business relationship. At this point, I'm not sure if Sally was just being nice to Summer because she has another agenda, or she was being genuine. How she behaves around Kyle while Summer is away will be telling, and could make/break her ties with Jack.
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Post by momrek06 on Jan 8, 2021 16:35:49 GMT
fang2170 and Gutmutter , ME TOO. I like Jack and Sally together. Jack has not been in a relationship in a LONGGGG time. He is due. Ya, as you said GUT, Kyle ..... I lost it for him COMPLETELY when he left Lola for Summer ...... fang2170, I agree with you. Maybe the kiddos were at Victor's when Billy saw them on Christmas. You know at the stables, riding. etc. Or because the kiddos were around, Victoria decided not to bring up his relationship with Lily. While I follow her on INSTAGRAM and she is AWESOME on there ...... I can NOT figure out Phyllis AT ALL. Does Nick even work? And AMANDA ...... I hope she can met up with her Mom. And poor Devon, still having dreams of Hilary. For the life of me I can NOT figure out why Elena (IRL) cut her hair like she did. Her hair was so cute before this cut. I don't even know what that style is and how do you tell a hair stylist you want that style?????
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Post by Gutmutter on Jan 8, 2021 18:30:07 GMT
Oooooo! I hope they’re not just teasing us!!! 🤣 From Sally’s mouth to an act of God! Editing because {Spoiler} Reading spoilers for next week, it’s all just a tease. 👎
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Post by fang2170 on Jan 8, 2021 22:17:41 GMT
fang2170 and Gutmutter , ME TOO. I like Jack and Sally together. Jack has not been in a relationship in a LONGGGG time. He is due. Ya, as you said GUT, Kyle ..... I lost it for him COMPLETELY when he left Lola for Summer ...... fang2170 , I agree with you. Maybe the kiddos were at Victor's when Billy saw them on Christmas. You know at the stables, riding. etc. Or because the kiddos were around, Victoria decided not to bring up his relationship with Lily. While I follow her on INSTAGRAM and she is AWESOME on there ...... I can NOT figure out Phyllis AT ALL. Does Nick even work? And AMANDA ...... I hope she can met up with her Mom. And poor Devon, still having dreams of Hilary. For the life of me I can NOT figure out why Elena (IRL) cut her hair like she did. Her hair was so cute before this cut. I don't even know what that style is and how do you tell a hair stylist you want that style????? I think Nick works at some place called "New Hope", and I'm not even sure of that (OR what it is...). I thought I heard it mentioned once or twice, but most of the time, he's hanging out at the coffee shop, at Sharon's, or in bed with Phyllis
Previews for next week show a very upset Amanda. She came face to face with her mom today at the end of Friday's episode.
The only thing I can figure with Elena's haircut was maybe her hair was damaged or became damaged during some process. Maybe she tried to color it at home or something during the lockdown and made a big OOPS?!
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Post by fang2170 on Jan 8, 2021 22:23:56 GMT
Oooooo! I hope they’re not just teasing us!!! 🤣 From Sally’s mouth to an act of God! Editing because {Spoiler} Reading spoilers for next week, it’s all just a tease. 👎 You had me going, Gut, lol I was thinking "plane crash" with Summer, Kyle, Billy and Lily on board.
My idea of Sally potentially seducing Kyle has been foiled, since he is on the trip to L.A. with the rest of the gang. That's probably the result of more insecurity from Summer. If the cat is away, the mouse will play, right? Kyle can say he's committed to Summer but he's been shown to be untrustworthy.
It's all good though. No distractions as Jack and Sally get to know each other
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Post by momrek06 on Jan 9, 2021 2:43:54 GMT
ME TOO, Gutmutter had me thinking PLANE CRASH!!! But then again we did not see them in the previews.......soooooo WHO KNOWS. I fly allot .... (well I did up until 3/2020) but there is NO WAY hubby would wear a suit and tie and dress pants on a cross country trip. I chuckled when I saw Kyle and Billy all dressed up. Why was K&S so angry that B&L were on that flight........I mean K&S were actually rude to Billy about it. YES Amanda looks DEVASTATED. And what did Sally LEAVE in L.A. .... she said in the previews something like that to CoCo on the phone. Like she does not want S&K finding out. Hmmmmmm!!!!! I agree, Kyle is a snake. Period. Re: Nick and your response...... AND great thought on Elena's hair.
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Post by fang2170 on Jan 12, 2021 2:02:16 GMT
And what did Sally LEAVE in L.A. .... she said in the previews something like that to CoCo on the phone. Like she does not want S&K finding out. Hmmmmmm!!!!! I agree, Kyle is a snake. Period. Sally caused some trouble for the Forresters, stealing their designs and trying to get what I'm guessing were Instagram followers by showing up at Liam & Steffy's first wedding, dating Thomas (briefly) and basically being a "wannabe". Nothing Summer wouldn't do if she were trying to get ahead by any means possible
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Post by Gutmutter on Jan 12, 2021 17:45:27 GMT
Sally confessed most of that to Jack already... even showed him pictures on her phone. The thing that made my eyes pop was when Summer almost made a reference to her affair with Billy to Lily. Was that common knowledge when it happened?
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Post by momrek06 on Jan 14, 2021 21:32:53 GMT
Sally confessed most of that to Jack already... even showed him pictures on her phone. The thing that made my eyes pop was when Summer almost made a reference to her affair with Billy to Lily. Was that common knowledge when it happened?It was a few years ago so I really don't remember all the details BUT I am going to say NO, not everyone knew about Summer and Billy. Genoa City was SO SHOCKED when Sharon and Nick were at the altar about to get RE-married, the church was PACKED with every person in GC and Sharon turns to Nick and SCREAMS OUT she knows he is sleeping with Phyllis. Billy was sitting next to Phyllis in the church ....... he was SHOCKED beyond words. Summer was already an adult and she and Billy had been having fun running some GAMBLING games. They were drinking a lot and found themselves in bed. I don't believe Summer felt it was REVENGE from what her mother had done to Billy......mostly it was GC shocked about Sharon's REVELATION of Nick's INFIDELITY for WEEKS after. I know obviously eventually Phyllis found out and was BEYOND DISGUSTED with Billy. But as far as all the residents in GC .... no.
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Post by momrek06 on Jan 14, 2021 21:42:34 GMT
OK TODAY
Victoria is a HOT MESS.......GET A BRUSH PLEASE. Her hair always looks so DISHEVELED.
AND now her JEALOUSY of every women with Billy. I wish Billy had gone back to Lily to have dinner BUT Billy did not want to disappoint the kids.
I personally do not feel Nate and Elena have ANY chemistry. They are two sad sacks.
Nate not AGREEING to help MOSES, which I cannot believe he is already 16yo!!! WOW!!! Nate is PISSED OFF. Gwad, rein in it dude.
Like Elena said to Nate .... "was it the message OR the messenger"
Amanda needs to take it down a LEVEL. Geez all that anger.
Adam GET THE HELL away from Sharon you creep.
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Post by Gutmutter on Jan 14, 2021 22:04:19 GMT
Thanks momrek! I agree with everything Victoria is such a loser. I guess I don’t know who Moses is, but it doesn’t matter. I don’t really care about them. Sharon’s just as bad... she secretly texts him to let her know what she can do for him.
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Post by fang2170 on Jan 15, 2021 0:06:12 GMT
Sally confessed most of that to Jack already... even showed him pictures on her phone. The thing that made my eyes pop was when Summer almost made a reference to her affair with Billy to Lily. Was that common knowledge when it happened? I don't think I saw all of the episode with Sally confessing to Jack. Did she tell him about taking Flo hostage? Her and that flake of a doctor playing along that Sally was dying of some mystery disease, then chaining Flo to a radiator when she found out!!
I'm not sure about the Summer/Billy affair. I thought it was basically between Phyllis/Billy/Summer, but I could be wrong. From what I've seen since this was posted, Lily now knows about it and didn't seem too concerned.
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Post by fang2170 on Jan 15, 2021 0:19:05 GMT
OK TODAY Victoria is a HOT MESS.......GET A BRUSH PLEASE. Her hair always looks so DISHEVELED. AND now her JEALOUSY of every women with Billy. I wish Billy had gone back to Lily to have dinner BUT Billy did not want to disappoint the kids. I personally do not feel Nate and Elena have ANY chemistry. They are two sad sacks. Nate not AGREEING to help MOSES, which I cannot believe he is already 16yo!!! WOW!!! Nate is PISSED OFF. Gwad, rein in it dude. Like Elena said to Nate .... " was it the message OR the messenger" Amanda needs to take it down a LEVEL. Geez all that anger. Adam GET THE HELL away from Sharon you creep. I was SO hoping Billy would invite Lily along for the ice skating date with the kids. That would've really burned Victoria's britches to hear they all had a blast. It is becoming increasingly evident that she is using the kids to try and throw a wrench into Billy/Lily's relationship. Today, I definitely didn't see the chemistry between Nate and Elena. Their first few dates were fun and it seemed like things were clicking. Bummer
I *think* Moses is Malcolm's son.
Amanda is expecting too much. While it's upsetting, not every parent who gives a child up for adoption wants to be contacted once they are an adult. Not sure how this story line is going to play out.
Adam is creeping....but so is Sharon! Just back from her honeymoon and already texting him!!
***Edited to add my own observance for the day...Drama Queen Abby whining and moping about, upset that she isn't pregnant 2 weeks after marrying Chance. There isn't a proper eyeroll emoticon to convey my reaction to all that. ***
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Post by Gutmutter on Jan 15, 2021 0:32:18 GMT
Sally confessed most of that to Jack already... even showed him pictures on her phone. The thing that made my eyes pop was when Summer almost made a reference to her affair with Billy to Lily. Was that common knowledge when it happened? I don't think I saw all of the episode with Sally confessing to Jack. Did she tell him about taking Flo hostage? Her and that flake of a doctor playing along that Sally was dying of some mystery disease, then chaining Flo to a radiator when she found out!!
I'm not sure about the Summer/Billy affair. I thought it was basically between Phyllis/Billy/Summer, but I could be wrong. From what I've seen since this was posted, Lily now knows about it and didn't seem too concerned.
No. She didn’t tell him about that, just about her shenanigans like going to Steffy’s wedding and starting a food fight to get followers.
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Post by fang2170 on Jan 15, 2021 21:36:02 GMT
I don't think I saw all of the episode with Sally confessing to Jack. Did she tell him about taking Flo hostage? Her and that flake of a doctor playing along that Sally was dying of some mystery disease, then chaining Flo to a radiator when she found out!!
I'm not sure about the Summer/Billy affair. I thought it was basically between Phyllis/Billy/Summer, but I could be wrong. From what I've seen since this was posted, Lily now knows about it and didn't seem too concerned.
No. She didn’t tell him about that, just about her shenanigans like going to Steffy’s wedding and starting a food fight to get followers. Oh boy Sally was talking to Jack again today and didn't admit to anything more...like faking being sick or taking Flo hostage. I'm not sure about Wyatt keeping that secret. If Summer and Kyle get in touch with Flo, she will very much enjoy telling them. Like Flo is some saint. She has a few secrets of her own!
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Post by Gutmutter on Jan 15, 2021 22:47:51 GMT
Well, she kind of did. She did say she did things that could make her look bad but she wasn’t specific. I think the fact that she told him that much will make him sympathetic. I’m not clear on what her new position entails.
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Post by fang2170 on Jan 21, 2021 23:45:47 GMT
Today's entire episode was all about Abbey and her damaged uterus. She may very well be able to conceive, just not carry a baby.
Didn't Mac carry Lily and Cane's twins? Lily had ovarian cancer and I believe had a complete hysterectomy, but not before harvesting her eggs.
That said, I just don't like Abbey. I don't care if she and Chance will not be able to have a baby the "old fashioned" way. Honestly, I feel the character of Chase is being wasted paired with her. It sounds mean, I know. My feelings are based on her making little things into HUGE dramas; moping, pouting, pissing and moaning about everything that doesn't go 100% her way.
I'd feel a whole lot more sympathetic towards her if she didn't do that.
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Post by momrek06 on Jan 22, 2021 1:06:29 GMT
The writing has gotten so POOR for both Y&R and BOLD. Like you said fang2170 the ENTIRE episode was about Abby and this started like what Monday. Why does this s/l have to consume the whole episode??? She is absolutely a DRAMA QUEEN. I had to FF through all of Abby today. I had plenty of her whining earlier in the week. Ohhhhh wait to be fair President Biden came on half way through the episode.......was there anything else I may have MISSED that was NOT Abby related????
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Post by Gutmutter on Jan 22, 2021 1:43:48 GMT
No. You didn’t miss anything. I haven’t heard anyone suggest a surrogate for them which seems like it would work. They’ve been skirting around other options, but why not just get it out there? I feel like they might be setting up Mariah to be their surrogate. She and her girlfriend had the baby issue forced on them rather randomly recently out of the blue. And she doesn’t seem to do much.
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Post by momrek06 on Jan 22, 2021 2:48:37 GMT
No. You didn’t miss anything. I haven’t heard anyone suggest a surrogate for them which seems like it would work. They’ve been skirting around other options, but why not just get it out there? I feel like they might be setting up Mariah to be their surrogate. She and her girlfriend had the baby issue forced on them rather randomly recently out of the blue. And she doesn’t seem to do much. Ya Gutmutter, I actually like Mariah allot ... but for some reason Y&R has put Tessa on part-time??? So Mariah barely has any solid s/l's lately. She is kinda watching out for Faith and then this week wants to console Abby. Ya Mariah she needs a solid s/l. So appears Devon and Amanda might start dating. Elena is haunted by dreams of Devon. Nate is haunted continually by his hand and not being able to be a surgeon. Chelsea is ANGERED by Sharon coming over to see her. Adam continues to hold a torch for the married Sharon. Victoria is scheming to get Billy to Hawaii SOMEHOW ..... Billy and Lily seem to be having fun BUT Lily is on to Victoria and her scheming. Lola needs a s/l The less I see of Summer and Kyle the happier I am. I can't figure out Phyllis and Nick .... do they live at the hotel? What happened to Nick's apt/home?
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Post by fang2170 on Jan 22, 2021 16:21:58 GMT
No. You didn’t miss anything. I haven’t heard anyone suggest a surrogate for them which seems like it would work. They’ve been skirting around other options, but why not just get it out there? I feel like they might be setting up Mariah to be their surrogate. She and her girlfriend had the baby issue forced on them rather randomly recently out of the blue. And she doesn’t seem to do much. Ya Gutmutter , I actually like Mariah allot ... but for some reason Y&R has put Tessa on part-time??? So Mariah barely has any solid s/l's lately. She is kinda watching out for Faith and then this week wants to console Abby. Ya Mariah she needs a solid s/l. So appears Devon and Amanda might start dating.
Elena is haunted by dreams of Devon.
Nate is haunted continually by his hand and not being able to be a surgeon. Chelsea is ANGERED by Sharon coming over to see her. Adam continues to hold a torch for the married Sharon. Victoria is scheming to get Billy to Hawaii SOMEHOW ..... Billy and Lily seem to be having fun BUT Lily is on to Victoria and her scheming. Lola needs a s/l The less I see of Summer and Kyle the happier I am. I can't figure out Phyllis and Nick .... do they live at the hotel? What happened to Nick's apt/home? That's a great idea, Gutmutter ! Mariah does seem to be the logical choice if Abby/Chance chooses to use a surrogate. I really like Mariah but her role lately has been just supporting family and friends through tough times. She's another character I feel is being wasted paired with Tessa, who is RARELY around. In fact, if this scenario plays out and Mariah is asked - and chooses to be the surrogate - it could put an end to she and Tessa's relationship.
I'm not sure how I feel about Devon and Amanda dating, momrek06 . Doesn't seem to be a ton of chemistry there, but then again, I didn't see much chemistry with Nate/Elena until they went on a couple of dates. Nate has been out of sorts within the last week or so and it is dragging Elena down. Now she's having hot and steamy dreams of Devon! It seems the powers that be are setting up a rivalry between Amanda and Elena, competing for Devon's heart.
The scene with Chelsea glaring daggers at Sharon was intense!!! Great acting without saying a word! And then Chelsea made that sound as Sharon was headed out the door!
Victoria doesn't want Billy, and doesn't want anyone else to have him either Wonder is she would be spiteful enough to lure him to Hawaii, get him drunk and manage to come back to Genoa City married to him?!!
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Post by Gutmutter on Jan 22, 2021 21:32:22 GMT
Lots of great ideas there, fang!
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Post by fang2170 on Jan 23, 2021 17:40:04 GMT
Lots of great ideas there, fang! Thanks Gut! Not really my ideas, but plenty of my opinions, lol
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Post by momrek06 on Jan 23, 2021 18:42:50 GMT
fang2170 I agree. Mariah needs SOMETHING and that idea of a surrogate for A&C would be ideal for her. I think I am liking Devon and Amanda because they both have 'similar' lifestyles as far as growing up and then achieving their dreams, Devon in the music industry, Amanda as an attorney. AND I felt badly they were both single and lonely and dealing with 'hurt', Devon with Elena issues and Amanda with abandonment issues. I liked they had each other to talk to. I figured it was only time before they would take their friendship to the next level. I also have been glad that Amanda did not go JUMP ON THE DEVON train the minute she heard of the Nate and Elena 'hook-up' and the ultimate break-up with Devon. ALSO it is NONE of Elena's business to be asking or questioning Amanda on her relationships. 100% about Victoria she does NOT want Billy both she does NOT want him with anyone else. Seriously, I know there will be 'something' with Hawaii. Victoria has turned herself into a snake like her scheming diabolical nasty EX J. T.
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Post by fang2170 on Jan 29, 2021 15:38:57 GMT
fang2170 I agree. Mariah needs SOMETHING and that idea of a surrogate for A&C would be ideal for her. I think I am liking Devon and Amanda because they both have 'similar' lifestyles as far as growing up and then achieving their dreams, Devon in the music industry, Amanda as an attorney. AND I felt badly they were both single and lonely and dealing with 'hurt', Devon with Elena issues and Amanda with abandonment issues. I liked they had each other to talk to. I figured it was only time before they would take their friendship to the next level. I also have been glad that Amanda did not go JUMP ON THE DEVON train the minute she heard of the Nate and Elena 'hook-up' and the ultimate break-up with Devon. ALSO it is NONE of Elena's business to be asking or questioning Amanda on her relationships. 100% about Victoria she does NOT want Billy both she does NOT want him with anyone else. Seriously, I know there will be 'something' with Hawaii. Victoria has turned herself into a snake like her scheming diabolical nasty EX J. T. Wonder how this scenario with Devon and Elena is going to play out? She's at his penthouse...her car won't start...AND there is a blizzard outside!
Kinda surprised the Hawaii trip didn't come to pass. However, that didn't stop Victoria from figuring out a way to get Billy to "play house" with her and the kids. I'm assuming with the blizzard/ice storm, he's stuck there with them.
I do NOT want to see these two get back together. Been there, done that. Victoria needs to find a new man to sink her fangs into.
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