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Post by MFWalkoff on Jan 31, 2020 1:15:44 GMT
Sheer Genius - The designers are challenged with some difficult textiles: sexy, sheer fabrics. More than one designer reaches their personal limit and questions their ability to make it to the end.
Enjoy the meltdowns!
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Post by MFWalkoff on Jan 31, 2020 2:22:22 GMT
Boom. That was fast. Dayoung leaves for her health, and Marquise is back in as a result.
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Post by Arielflies on Jan 31, 2020 6:41:29 GMT
Christian did not do Chelsea any favors with his review. I think she might have beat out Victoria with the tiered flounces she had on the dress before his critique. Victoria STILL threw out on the runway the same profile (high low side skirt)and it was horrible along with her attitude. All I'll say about that is stink, stank, stunk. I loved Dayoung's designs and am so sad her body couldn't hold up under the pressure. Give her a week or two and she would out-design all of them. Okay, HE won; but it was the best designed and sewn up there. At least no speeches this week. I was glad Nancy found an editorial style this week - probably with Sergio's influence, but still. Also happy to see that Marquise came back and slayed this challenge. He was determined to make a point and he did. Interesting show where all butts were covered.
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Post by MissGriss on Jan 31, 2020 6:58:31 GMT
Sergio's dress was beautiful, so I'm glad he won. But I really liked Nancy's, too. I agree Arielflies about Christian's critique not being helpful for Chelsea. And I'm pissed that they kept Victoria over her. Chelsea knew that her look sucked, but she didn't complain and threaten to quit. I really wonder how much Victoria's drama on the runway played into them keeping her. To me, she's a one-trick pony with a bad attitude. Sadly, the judges have really been in love with that one trick (and it was impressive the first three or four times). I think that tonight, though, she pretty much used up every little bit of capital that she had built up in past weeks. She'd better do something really impressive and new from here on out or she'll be toast sooner rather than later.
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Post by justmythoughts on Jan 31, 2020 6:59:54 GMT
I thought Victoria should have been voted off. Chelsey's outfit was bad, but Victoria's was awful material and did not flatter her model. Mostly, even SHE didn't like it. Chelsey left with integrity, and a great attitude. Victoria should take note. Instead, she continues to pout and behave like a spoiled child if she isn't on top. She kept saying she didn't know what "sheer" meant, but everyone explained it to her. It was an excuse, because she (so far) appears to be a 1-style designer. I liked her designs in the beginning, but after the last 3 weeks, the others should ignore her, and let her walk instead of trying to talk her out of it.
Glad Marquis is back. I still love Geoffrey; humble funny man. He can make some amazing stuff, but he has to step up his game.
Sergio made an ok outfit I admit. But his over the top arrogance is nauseating. He is so into himself, and actually thinks he knows more than anyone, including Christian..... and the judges. No one can tell him anything. Hope he leaves soon.
I am sorry Dayoung is gone; I liked so many of her designs. Would have been fun to see what she would have designed tonight. (I bet Veronica who was voted off weeks ago would have made something wonderful tonight as well.) Nancy's dress was pretty good. Actually..... I wasn't overly impressed with any of the clothes tonight. It was mostly.... "which one do I dislike the least?"
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Post by MFWalkoff on Jan 31, 2020 10:58:29 GMT
The judges were suckers to fall for Victoria's sob story, even if it was sort of true. They should have caught on to her when she admitted in front of them that she preferred to quit rather than be on the bottom again -- that line showed that it was more than just a lack of confidence. The guest judge picked up on her arrogance behind the meltdown; I wish the others had factored it in more.
Sergio's look was good, but I'm surprised they didn't ding it for catering to his usual "older woman" style. It reminded me of Daniel Franco's "Hollywood Wives" lingerie collection from Season 2. I preferred Nancy's, and Brittany's.
Overall I think that it was a mistake to make a sheer fabric challenge a 1-day challenge. They were asking them to make couture garments, of course most of them weren't going to look finished or fully thought out. I wish Christian had used his save on Chelsey, out of fairness if nothing else.
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Post by ibot2much on Jan 31, 2020 12:19:10 GMT
I thought B and D were rather snippy about only being safe as they both expected to place higher. I didn't see the glory in what Marquise put out there---it as all right so I didn't see what they were all raving about.
At least there was no political speech from Sergio. I give him and Nancy credit for making their dresses about the models----the wedding and the prom---that was a nice touch.
Time for Victoria to leave. I was sorry that Chelsey's dress was so bad.
I don't love the "helper" show. Often the designer and the helper don't work well together. Since there are 7 people left and 8 helpers ( not counting Dayoung), I wonder who wasn't invited back.
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Post by Kao on Jan 31, 2020 15:26:36 GMT
I'm seriously disgusted. At another forum someone posted a collection Victoria did that was comprised of all sheer fabrics so she blatantly lied about not knowing what "sheer" meant. I'm glad that Christian finally called her out about sending the same thing out to the runway with minor alterations. Disgusted at the whole "If I'm going to be on the bottom I'm going to quit" thing and wish the other designers hadn't talked her into staying. My patience with that one is at an end, and if she wins I will never watch this show again. Poor Chelsey.
Sergio's dress was very nice, too bad his arrogance makes him very hard to root for. And I really wish Brittany would stop badmouthing the other designers backstage because all it does is make her look petty.
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Post by betty80 on Jan 31, 2020 15:56:51 GMT
I thought Marquis' dress was going to be in the bottom. I didn't like that collar that covered her chest. Victoria does design the same thing every week. I'm sick of the cut outs and a symmetry. Her and Sergio's attitudes are horrible. I didn't want Sergio to win because I didn't want his ego to get even bigger. I was hoping Nancy would win.
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Post by Arielflies on Jan 31, 2020 16:23:22 GMT
I thought B and D were rather snippy about only being safe as they both expected to place higher. I didn't see the glory in what Marquise put out there---it as all right so I didn't see what they were all raving about.
At least there was no political speech from Sergio. I give him and Nancy credit for making their dresses about the models----the wedding and the prom---that was a nice touch.
Time for Victoria to leave. I was sorry that Chelsey's dress was so bad.
I don't love the "helper" show. Often the designer and the helper don't work well together. Since there are 7 people left and 8 helpers ( not counting Dayoung), I wonder who wasn't invited back. What is the "helper" show? Is it connected to Project Runway, and who are the helpers?
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Post by ibot2much on Jan 31, 2020 16:33:02 GMT
Next week's previews show the dismissed designers coming back to --I assume- be the helpers. Haven't they done that in the past??
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Post by Arielflies on Jan 31, 2020 16:36:39 GMT
Okay, I understand. Usually the other designers come back to help during the last rush hours before the last (finale) runway. Yes it is weird that they are coming in so early. Just another twist.
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Post by babbred on Jan 31, 2020 16:54:05 GMT
I thought B and D were rather snippy about only being safe as they both expected to place higher. I didn't see the glory in what Marquise put out there---it as all right so I didn't see what they were all raving about.
At least there was no political speech from Sergio. I give him and Nancy credit for making their dresses about the models----the wedding and the prom---that was a nice touch.
Time for Victoria to leave. I was sorry that Chelsey's dress was so bad.
I don't love the "helper" show. Often the designer and the helper don't work well together. Since there are 7 people left and 8 helpers ( not counting Dayoung), I wonder who wasn't invited back. What is the "helper" show? Is it connected to Project Runway, and who are the helpers?
I think Ibot means next week, when they bring back eliminated designers to help the current ones. They usually do it in the finale so that the designers can have some help finishing their collection. I don't like that they're doing it earlier. Sometimes the pairing really works, but many times it backfires and you just get more drama.
Poor Chelsey. I was disappointed that Christian didn't save her. Who is he waiting to save? If it's Victoria then I will stop watching this season. If the judges get up the gumption to eliminate her--and they should!--then she needs to stay gone. Chelsey's outfit looked horrible. (Brandon's comment about "paper shredder" was spot-on.) But at least she had the grace to admit it and not get an attitude like Sergio.
Speaking of which, I am genuinely confused. If Victoria has done sheer before, then why did she have a fit this week? Why didn't she embrace the challenge? Or was she still in a funk from last week? Good grief almighty. If had been one of those other designers I wouldn't have wasted time with her. That time they spent coaxing her back was time they could have spent on their own outfits. It's one thing if someone is genuinely overwhelmed for a moment or sick like Dayoung. I thought that was really touching how Geoffrey helped her. Just throwing a fit because you had a bad day is an order of magnitude different. Marquise had a bad day. He went all the way home. Then he came raring back and kicked butt. His attitude made Victoria look even more pathetic.
Brittany and Delvin absolutely thought they'd be in the top. B sat back there in the lounge with her mouth hanging open, aghast that the judges would dare find her precious outfit less than the top ones. I wanted to tell her in my best Mary Poppins voice, "Close your mouth, please. We are not a codfish." Her and D's attitude was very off-putting.
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Post by justCoz on Jan 31, 2020 18:55:57 GMT
Yes, that was not a good look on Brittany and Delvin. Conceited much? I was underwhelmed with all the dresses this week. There wasn't one I really loved, but I do think Sergio's was probably the top one. Nancy's was good too, and I wouldn't have minded her winning. We didn't have to hear Sergio spouting off about a cause this week, and it helped him! But I don't want his ego to get even bigger than it already is. I'm so over Victoria. They should have let her quit. I don't like those asymmetrical hems that she makes. They just look like two pieces that were cut wrong were sewn together, like they mixed two patterns together. I don't mind some asymmetrical hems like high/low but I guess I prefer flowy asymmetrical hems than choppy ones. I think Christian is saving his save for someone like Victoria, but hopefully she's been in the bottom enough, and with this latest stunt of wanting to quit, that he'll just let her go if she gets auffed. (I don't miss Heidi per se, but I do miss that! ) I really liked when he told her the elements of her garments that were the same. He just rattled them off. I think that put her into a deeper funk, but she needed to hear it.
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Post by MFWalkoff on Jan 31, 2020 21:03:47 GMT
To be fair to Victoria, it could be that she's worked with sheer fabric before, but she didn't know it as the English word "sheer", she knew it in whatever word she uses in her language. Or she could be full of crap, either one.
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Post by MissGriss on Jan 31, 2020 21:15:30 GMT
To be fair to Victoria, it could be that she's worked with sheer fabric before, but she didn't know it as the English word "sheer", she knew it in whatever word she uses in her language. Or she could be full of crap, either one. I don't remember if it was during the episode or in the After Show video on YouTube, but someone said that Brittany spent time explaining to Victoria what sheer meant. But it's certainly possible that she still didn't quite understand. The explanation we heard on the show was that it's "see through," and she did choose that lace, which was "see through" in a different way from sheer. The other fabric yellow fabric she used definitely wasn't sheer, but she had some lighter yellow that appeared to be. She seems to just be falling apart in general now that everyone isn't constantly telling her that she's wonderful. It's kind of sad what perfectionism can do to someone.
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Post by woodiedog on Jan 31, 2020 23:03:04 GMT
Sergio and Nancy were clear winners. Loved both looks.
Victoria might be crumbling under the pressure. She might be used to designing in a bubble. That yellow dress was hideous.
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Post by silver18 on Jan 31, 2020 23:39:51 GMT
I don't buy the "didn't understand" excuse. It was explained, she knows what fabrics everyone bought, and she could have asked for clarification. She just likes to design what she likes to design.
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Post by kocky_Kamikaze on Jan 31, 2020 23:51:16 GMT
The guest judge is correct. She didn’t buy into the sob story and Victoria had zero humility. Her dress looked like something I would’ve made in junior high Home Ec class with the wrong fabric chosen and the wrong sides sewn together. At least Chelsea actual sheer dress showed some degree of structure and uniqueness. Face it, they LOVE Victoria for some insane reason.
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Post by kocky_Kamikaze on Jan 31, 2020 23:53:01 GMT
I don't buy the "didn't understand" excuse. It was explained, she knows what fabrics everyone bought, and she could have asked for clarification. She just likes to design what she likes to design. She only doesn’t understand when it’s convenient for her.
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 1, 2020 0:06:30 GMT
The guest judge is correct. She didn’t buy into the sob story and Victoria had zero humility. Her dress looked like something I would’ve made in junior high Home Ec class with the wrong fabric chosen and the wrong sides sewn together. At least Chelsea actual sheer dress showed some degree of structure and uniqueness. Face it, they LOVE Victoria for some insane reason. Last night on the After Show video on YouTube, Christian said that he thinks the reason that the judges like her so much is because she has a clear point of view that they like. He doesn't like, though, that she keeps doing the same dress over and over. He sees that as a problem for sure. (Very loosely paraphrased. If you want to watch the actual video, the link is below.) www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mDP7IPi-5A&t=11s
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Post by Critical on Feb 1, 2020 0:11:32 GMT
I don't buy the "didn't understand" excuse. It was explained, she knows what fabrics everyone bought, and she could have asked for clarification. She just likes to design what she likes to design. She only doesn’t understand when it’s convenient for her. Sort of like how Sergio's "political causes" become SUPER important when he's in the bottom looks.
I'm so sad to lose both Dayoung and Chelsea. They were both among my favorites. I may have missed the very end of the episode. Did Christian ask Chelsea to go clean up her work station? If not, maybe we'll see him use his save at the beginning of next week's episode.
Marquise's look wasn't terrible, but I didn't understand why the judges were fawning over it.
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 1, 2020 1:36:07 GMT
Sadly, Critical, he didn't use the save. I really liked her and Dayoung, too. I'll miss them.
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Post by babbred on Feb 1, 2020 2:23:57 GMT
I don't buy the "didn't understand" excuse. It was explained, she knows what fabrics everyone bought, and she could have asked for clarification. She just likes to design what she likes to design.
Remember when they were at Mood? Christian fussed because the designers were clustering in the same area, getting the same fabric. Victoria would have seen them purchasing all that fabric.
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Post by shortlived on Feb 2, 2020 21:27:36 GMT
1. I am disappointed that Christian didn't use his save on Chelsea. She took his advice into consideration and that was her downfall. I liked the tiered dress she was making, at least what we saw of it.
2. Glad they brought Marquise back. I thought that was fair, since he was the last eliminated.
3. Victoria should have been gone. Between the attitude and the poorly made dress, it should have been her not Chelsea.
4. I thought most of the looks were ok, except the bottom two were definitely the bottom two.
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Post by betty80 on Feb 3, 2020 15:39:32 GMT
Does anyone think Sergio may be acting like the season villain to get more screen time? Could his ego really be that big? I hope not. Good grief!
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