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Post by MFWalkoff on Jul 28, 2023 1:38:41 GMT
Uncut Hems - It's the halfway point and the designers are hitting the road to a denim explosion; in a throwback challenge, they'll create all denim looks while competing in head-to-head battles where only one designer can be safe from elimination.
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Post by tilden on Jul 28, 2023 2:42:29 GMT
Given something I'd heard/read (I forget which) about an emotional moment between Rami and Christian this season, I suspected Christian would use the Siriano Save on Rami this week, particularly after he really praised Rami's design in the workroom, only to have the judges tear it apart.
I missed some of what happened in the workroom due to a phone call, but seriously, what has to happen before Anna gets sent home? I haven't really seen anything from her this season that resembles the quality of the work in her previous season (given what they showed of it in this episode), and I didn't see what was so fashion forward about that dress she threw together in five hours because she screwed up her initial design. But then, while I appreciated the fit of Laurence's gown, I wasn't keen on the pointy bra business on the top half of it or the V-shaped piece over the crotch--it looked more like inner wear as outer wear than what she put together for last week's challenge. I also don't see how anyone could sit in that dress, and I agree about the spikes. Just, why? I'd echo that "Just, why?" sentiment for the head to head competition as well. What was the point to that? There was no way Kara Saun was going to win and Brittany wasn't going to lose either. They just got lucky/unlucky in their pairings.
For the next challenge, I'd also like the designers to have no critique from Christian at all because I feel like some of them end up being saved by his critiques. Time to let them live or die on their own, so to speak.
And I still love Mimi. Has a model ever won Project Runway?
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Post by Navybelle on Jul 28, 2023 2:51:43 GMT
Once again, people help Anna avoid crashing and burning. She started all over the morning of the show, because of her disaster with bleach and denim. She claims she didn't know! But, she had plenty of warnings, and just didn't listen. There are some great concepts, but we'll see how they show up on the runway. I'm not sure how these head-to-heads will go, not sure I like it but it could be an interesting way to find a winner and loser. Runway: It was Prajje vs Bishme: Prajje did a jumpsuit with lots of pieces of lots of jeans all sewn together. Bishme had a little dress with a fringe jacket on top. Korto vs Rami: Korto tie-died her dark denim and did a high necked coat, short skirt. Rami had a bolero and a skirt with a lot of cage-pieces. Anna vs: KaraSaun: Anna's was a strapless dress with the tops of jeans sewn in kind of a zigzag down the body, leaving sides open. KaraSaun pieced together some snaps for a bodice in her halter dress, skirt made of strips and pieces from the jeans. Laurance vs. Brittany: Laurance made a gown with puffy sleeves and cone breasts, long skinny skirt with a bit of a train. It had a circle cut out in the back with the waist of jeans around it. Brittany did a mini-dress with a stripe of buttons down the front, dress made up of frayed hems all sewn together, then it was topped with an ombre puffy coat. Winners: Bishme, Korto, KaraSaun, Laurance were in the top. The winner of $5000 is Laurance. Bottom: They said Prajje's wasn't flattering, and too busy even though the construction was good. Rami's wasn't cohesive top and and bottom, not modern, the caging looked dated and the skirt stopped at an unflattering place on the leg. Anna's was cool, they said, but the fit wasn't good. Her styling was off too, with the face chains! Brittany's was complimented, except for maybe the buttons down the front, otherwise they seemed to like it. Brittany is safe, they didn't even consider hers as a "bottom" look really. They send Rami home! Poor Rami. So the head-to-heads didn't seem to really matter much. I thought they'd keep going, tournament style. Yayyyy, Christian saves Rami!!!!!! Of course, he had to -- they're from the same season and really respect each other. Aww. Christian cried (and he claims to not be a crier), and Rami better kill it next time. I hope he outlasts Anna at least. Next week is the real client challenge.
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Post by tilden on Jul 28, 2023 17:53:32 GMT
If Rami doesn't outlast Anna, I really will lose it. She's gotten so lucky, so many times already this season. I don't know what's going on with her, but her looks they showed from her original season were much better. I don't think it's any accident at all that Kara Saun, having first choice, immediately grabbed Anna as her one-on-one competition. Likely anyone else would have done the exact same thing.
I think they should have a challenge where Christian doesn't offer any suggestions to anyone, period. I know he's trying to be helpful, but he's been overly helpful in some situations, and in others, such as last night's with Rami, he was the opposite of helpful. He strongly encouraged Rami to do the skirt and that he was on the right track. Then the judges hated it. However, he did save Rami, as he should have. But he's also basically saved Anna's butt a couple of times this season already. If she'd done what she wanted to do originally in the unconventional materials challenge, she probably would have been gone then. Maybe I'm misremembering, but I don't recall Tim Gunn being quite so obvious about telling people what they should/shouldn't do. Of course, that might also have something to do with Tim's personal style or that as an experienced teacher, he was used to trying more subtly to get the designers to think through their choices on their own.
BTW, none of that is meant as a slam against Christian. I think he's getting better at his job each season, and the fact that he's been a contestant may make it harder for him to resist trying to keep someone from doing something he thinks the judges will rip them apart for doing because he knows how it feels to be criticized by the judges. But I'd still like to see the designers left to their own devices for an entire challenge to see if it would make a difference. Or maybe have them expect Christian to do the walk through, get a message from Christian that he couldn't make it but was sending a friend instead--and have Tim walk through the door. Yeah, I know I'm dreaming, but still....
Of course, I also wish there was a contestant who could do a really great impression of Christian, the way Santini did of Tim. Hmm....if they can't get Tim, maybe Santini could just do the walk through as Tim.
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Post by tilden on Jul 28, 2023 17:57:21 GMT
Oh, yeah, one other thing about next week's challenge. Are they supposed to be designing new uniforms/workwear for the Below Deck people or are they designing something for them personally? It was hard to tell from the preview because for some crew members, it sounded like they were going for something they could wear on deck and for others, something they could wear in their off time.
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Post by ibot2much on Jul 28, 2023 19:03:54 GMT
I did not like Laurence's dress. I hated the bra that looked almost like the cone bra from earlier...only softer.
It was ironic that the judges said that only the fit allowed Kara's dress to score higher than Anna's and that she was sent out as "safe" before the winner was chosen from the other three.
On the other end, it was clear that Brittany's dress was not really in the bottom in that they sent her out as "safe" before the bottom three were judged. I would guess that her look would have defeated some of the other looks if she has paired herself with a different designer.
Loved Christian's store...I am so glad that his success as a designer and businessman keeps getting better and better. I recall an interview with him after he won and was getting a lot of attention. He said that nobody was going to help him as well as he could help himself.
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Post by tilden on Jul 28, 2023 19:15:44 GMT
Glad someone else was less than impressed with Laurence's dress. I just didn't get why that got so much praise from the judges. It was the bra and the v-emphasis over the crotch that got me. Well, that and the fact that while it looked beautiful standing up, I couldn't imagine anyone being able to sit in it comfortably, if at all. And yeah, Kara wasn't in the bottom because she was allowed to pick her partner first and picked Anna (though I have no idea why Anna's dress was so well liked by some judges), and Brittany should never have been in the bottom at all. So, really, what was the point of the pairings? Just let everyone be judged individually, particularly at this stage of the game.
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Post by MissGriss on Jul 28, 2023 20:12:04 GMT
I was so touched by the part where Christian saved Rami. I loved the Christian-Rami interaction, but it was also so touching to see how much the other designers love him and how happy they were that he was saved.
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Post by tilden on Jul 29, 2023 0:37:47 GMT
Rami has been a fairly calm and reasonable presence in the competition thus far. I would imagine the other competitors appreciate the fact that he seems easy to work/live around. Not that anyone's been a complete jerk this season---and there have been seasons where people have been pretty difficult--but Rami just hasn't been one to panic or get overly emotional, which makes for a less frenetic workroom and probably a better communal living situation as well.
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Post by Kao on Jul 29, 2023 2:18:27 GMT
LOL at them going to Connecticut to Christian’s Resortwear store and someone saying “It smells rich in here” lol. Also, LOL at Christian telling Kara Saun to pick someone she could beat in the head to head denim challenge and her putting a positive spin on it by saying she thought that both she and Anna were theater and put on a good show. I also think she wanted to avoid competing against those in the house she was closer to (which is the situation that Bishme and Prajjie were in). It’s a shame they decided to make this a one day challenge because I think the looks would have been more polished with another day. I also laughed at Bishme and Anna hoarding a good portion of the denim.
They really got into each designer’s process and approach to the challenge which I really enjoyed. I loved Korto and Rami’s banter and the fact that even though they were competing against each other there was an enormous amount of respect between the two. I can’t believe Anna lied to Christian and told him that she didn’t know about washing the bleach out of the denim when Korto blatantly told her the night before when they were both outside bleaching their garments and she chose to ignore her.
Willie and Julia Fox were great judges to have for this particular challenge, and as usual some designers did better than others. Somehow, Prajjie made that jumpsuit made out of straps work, and it looked great on his bigger model instead of bulky. Bishme had a great combination with a great retro inspired design plus the fabulous Mimi to model it. I liked it very much, and the fringed jacket was fun. Korto’s look was stunning and an excellent application of batik against the dark denim, my mouth opened when her model went down the runway. On the other hand, I also enjoyed the cage like details of Rami’s garment. Both Rami and Korto’s garments had top notch finishing on them so that one was a tough call. Anna had a “make it work” moment because the bleach ate through the garment she was working on previously and she had 5 hours to make a new one but I thought her look was really cute and slightly reminded me of something Guo Pei would have created if she worked in denim. However, her look actually looked like it was made in 5 hours, while the detailing on Kara Saun’s look and felt like it was more pulled together and more effort taken than Anna’s. Lawrence managed the hard task of making denim look elegant even with the cut out breasts, I was impressed. Britney’s look was also super cute, but not everyone could wear it and the fringe I’m on the fence about; it looked both like a design detail and sloppy.
Personally, I think all the designers served decent looks for this challenge, and it was really close who won each individual head to head challenge. I liked Laurence’s look and didn’t mind her winning but I was more partial to Korto’s look. And I’m seriously upset over who was going to go home because someone else should have left but YAY! Christian save!
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Post by Kao on Jul 29, 2023 13:32:32 GMT
Given something I'd heard/read (I forget which) about an emotional moment between Rami and Christian this season, I suspected Christian would use the Siriano Save on Rami this week, particularly after he really praised Rami's design in the workroom, only to have the judges tear it apart. I missed some of what happened in the workroom due to a phone call, but seriously, what has to happen before Anna gets sent home? I haven't really seen anything from her this season that resembles the quality of the work in her previous season (given what they showed of it in this episode), and I didn't see what was so fashion forward about that dress she threw together in five hours because she screwed up her initial design. But then, while I appreciated the fit of Laurence's gown, I wasn't keen on the pointy bra business on the top half of it or the V-shaped piece over the crotch--it looked more like inner wear as outer wear than what she put together for last week's challenge. I also don't see how anyone could sit in that dress, and I agree about the spikes. Just, why? I'd echo that "Just, why?" sentiment for the head to head competition as well. What was the point to that? There was no way Kara Saun was going to win and Brittany wasn't going to lose either. They just got lucky/unlucky in their pairings. For the next challenge, I'd also like the designers to have no critique from Christian at all because I feel like some of them end up being saved by his critiques. Time to let them live or die on their own, so to speak. And I still love Mimi. Has a model ever won Project Runway? Besides her work being so much better in her original season she was also a lot more likable. Her whole "Oops, I didn't know that I was supposed to rinse the bleach out and it ate into the fabric, tee hee" cutesy act to Christian left a really bad taste in my mouth considering Korto and others definitely told her she had to wash the bleach out, and why. Korto even told her while they were outside applying bleach to their outfits so there was plenty of time to course correct, she just didn't want to listen.
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Post by MissGriss on Jul 29, 2023 17:14:52 GMT
The thing I found really upsetting about her ignoring Korto was the seeming disregard for the model’s well-being. Korto told Anna that it had to be rinsed so it wouldn’t burn the model’s skin, but didn’t seem to sink in until the next morning when multiple people told her that.
I suppose it’s possible that it was a lack of understanding the night before. English is her second language, and she was tired and stressed when Korto was telling her.
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Post by ccl on Jul 29, 2023 17:34:04 GMT
I wish they’d given them bolts of denim rather than a bunch of jeans. It was more a sewing bee challenge than a design challenge…let’s see where we place these already made pockets and hems.
I liked Bishme’s best. His dress was nice, I don’t care what Elaine and Juli a said about it being boring (I never care about what Elaine says) and I liked his coat.
I liked Anna’s but really it was a bunch of top half of pants sewn at an angle (again, more sewing bee than anything); I just liked how it looked. I didn’t like all the grommets on Kara Saun’s top. Laurence’s was nice besides the bra part - I liked the black spikes myself. Her skirt looked quite soft not hard like denim can look. . Didn’t like Britney’s dress but her jacket was fine. Korto’s was beautiful. Rami’s top was nice, the skirt was ok. I liked Praje’s - it was busy but I still thought it looked nice.
Not surprised Christian saved Rami. I thought he would given their history.
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Post by beerbelly on Jul 29, 2023 18:27:16 GMT
I liked the spikes too! Also loved Korto's. Who said that Mimi should win a prize for modeling? I was thinking the same thing watching the episode.
I was so upset that Anna's wasn't a disaster, I don't see her pov, I don't understand her aesthetic, and I feel her whole identity is being tied to being a mom. And I am sure that is interesting to a lot of people and relatable, but I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear about elongated drippy breasts and I sure don't want to see it on the runway. I also don't like her cutesy act and it even annoyed me that she's never worked with denim. How do you not know that bleach is a toxic substance?
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Post by tilden on Jul 29, 2023 20:18:03 GMT
I missed the whole business with the bleach issues (ill-timed phone call that I could have just ignored, as it turned out to be far from urgent), and I've never used bleach in an attempt to create a deliberate color/pattern. But aren't there warnings on bottles of bleach about it being toxic or that it needs to be washed out of clothing and kept away from the skin?
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Post by Critical on Jul 29, 2023 23:54:51 GMT
I had a pair of 501s in my 20s that I altered with bleach. I put it in a spray bottle and "drew" all over the jeans. They turned out really cool. I was bummed when the bleached parts finally started wearing through because, yeah, bleach breaks down fabric. I can't imagine NOT rinsing it. Bleach reeks and is definitely not good for your skin. I also had a pair of black jeans that I literally just wadded up and put in a little cooler with bleach water. I thought it would make them gray, but they ended up sort of brown and cream. The pattern turned out super cool though.
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Post by beerbelly on Jul 30, 2023 0:45:00 GMT
A part of me thinks she does these things because she misses her son and wants to be with him. Doesn't want to quit, but is sort of sabotaging herself with these really not smart decisions.
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Post by tilden on Jul 30, 2023 1:07:05 GMT
A part of me thinks she does these things because she misses her son and wants to be with him. Doesn't want to quit, but is sort of sabotaging herself with these really not smart decisions. I truly hope that's not it because people have gone home before her who really wanted to be there. If, for whatever reasons, she'd rather not be there, then she needs to own that and leave. People have left before for a variety of reasons, including ones having to do with feeling as if they needed to be elsewhere for family reasons. The show and the contestants have been supportive of that, and I would hope if she really doesn't want to be there, she'd understand that she wouldn't be judged for leaving. If she chose to leave because she felt she needed to be with her son, I think the other contestants would get that if she's never been separated from him for this length of time before, which is entirely possible, she had no idea how it would affect her to be apart from her son for an extended period of time.
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Post by sunnydayz on Jul 30, 2023 1:38:40 GMT
I liked the spikes too! Also loved Korto's. Who said that Mimi should win a prize for modeling? I was thinking the same thing watching the episode. I was so upset that Anna's wasn't a disaster, I don't see her pov, I don't understand her aesthetic, and I feel her whole identity is being tied to being a mom. And I am sure that is interesting to a lot of people and relatable, but I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear about elongated drippy breasts and I sure don't want to see it on the runway. I also don't like her cutesy act and it even annoyed me that she's never worked with denim. How do you not know that bleach is a toxic substance? Anna’s driven me crazy this entire season. I’m tired of hearing “I can make a baby so I can do anything” blah blah blah. I know being a new mom is all consuming for a time, but enough already. You’re on Project Runway Allstars! Get it together and make amazing fashion!
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Post by tilden on Jul 30, 2023 2:22:01 GMT
I liked the spikes too! Also loved Korto's. Who said that Mimi should win a prize for modeling? I was thinking the same thing watching the episode. I was so upset that Anna's wasn't a disaster, I don't see her pov, I don't understand her aesthetic, and I feel her whole identity is being tied to being a mom. And I am sure that is interesting to a lot of people and relatable, but I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear about elongated drippy breasts and I sure don't want to see it on the runway. I also don't like her cutesy act and it even annoyed me that she's never worked with denim. How do you not know that bleach is a toxic substance? Anna’s driven me crazy this entire season. I’m tired of hearing “I can make a baby so I can do anything” blah blah blah. I know being a new mom is all consuming for a time, but enough already. You’re on Project Runway Allstars! Get it together and make amazing fashion! I must have missed her saying that, but it's a silly statement. Lots of women give birth. It doesn't mean all of them are suddenly capable of doing everything. Same deal for the men who become fathers, of course. It doesn't make them suddenly capable of doing anything else.
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Post by Navybelle on Jul 30, 2023 4:43:42 GMT
A part of me thinks she does these things because she misses her son and wants to be with him. Doesn't want to quit, but is sort of sabotaging herself with these really not smart decisions. Hmm, interesting.... And since she did quit on her original series, because of getting hurt in the van accident, maybe she feels she just can't quit again. But then, why wouldn't she leave the long drippy bleeding nipples instead of listening to Christian (or all the other help she's gotten)? Maybe so it doesn't look super obvious?
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Post by beerbelly on Jul 30, 2023 11:56:56 GMT
I think, if true, it's subconscious. The only person she will listen to, it seems, is Christian. Maybe because she knows the time with him has a better chance to end up on the show? So she's more conscious of her narrative and what she is displaying to the public?
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Post by Kao on Jul 30, 2023 16:38:42 GMT
I love Christian's coaching and his prancing around the workroom like a fabulous fashion elf but I think the difference between him and Tim Gunn is while Tim tended to be more subtle and allowed people to come to their own conclusions, Christian tends to be more direct in his critiques. I also think that as a former contestant he has a different point of view as well.
Tim: This bodice looks....unresolved. Play with it some more. Make it work!
Christian: Chile, those boobs you're making on this dress is ugly and looks a mess. If you do this you're probably going to go home!
I find him most helpful in Mood, where he's tried to steer contestants from making fail fabric choices. Sometimes it works, othertimes it doesn't; it's up to them whether to listen to Christian or not.
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Post by ibot2much on Jul 30, 2023 19:11:57 GMT
Kao---Loved every word you wrote...
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Post by silver18 on Aug 1, 2023 5:28:32 GMT
Given something I'd heard/read (I forget which) about an emotional moment between Rami and Christian this season, I suspected Christian would use the Siriano Save on Rami this week, particularly after he really praised Rami's design in the workroom, only to have the judges tear it apart. I missed some of what happened in the workroom due to a phone call, but seriously, what has to happen before Anna gets sent home? I haven't really seen anything from her this season that resembles the quality of the work in her previous season (given what they showed of it in this episode), and I didn't see what was so fashion forward about that dress she threw together in five hours because she screwed up her initial design. But then, while I appreciated the fit of Laurence's gown, I wasn't keen on the pointy bra business on the top half of it or the V-shaped piece over the crotch--it looked more like inner wear as outer wear than what she put together for last week's challenge. I also don't see how anyone could sit in that dress, and I agree about the spikes. Just, why? I'd echo that "Just, why?" sentiment for the head to head competition as well. What was the point to that? There was no way Kara Saun was going to win and Brittany wasn't going to lose either. They just got lucky/unlucky in their pairings. For the next challenge, I'd also like the designers to have no critique from Christian at all because I feel like some of them end up being saved by his critiques. Time to let them live or die on their own, so to speak. And I still love Mimi. Has a model ever won Project Runway? I agree with your thoughts 100%
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