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Post by Bearcata on Apr 29, 2019 18:30:19 GMT
The OA part 2 - that was different.
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Post by lonnie on Apr 30, 2019 20:34:29 GMT
-Netflix cancellation problem
In its early days, Netflix canceled very few series in its lineup. That was partly because it had so few that getting rid of any was impractical.
In recent years, however, the company has canceled shows at a much faster clip. Sometimes this is because an outside studio owns the content. In other cases, the streaming giant ended programs for viewership reasons (or at least that is the assumption, since the company does not share audience information).
The problem isn't so much that Netflix decided to cancel shows, including its entire Marvel lineup, the well-regarded One Day at a Time, Santa Clarita Diet, and a number of others. It's that the company has done so without resolving the plot lines in any of them.
Dropping an advantage When a broadcast network launches a show, audiences know that it may not even last one full season. That makes it risky to commit to watching because it's very possible that you will become invested and the series will be canceled.
Premium cable channels, like HBO, have a history of being more patient. Cancellations aren't unprecedented, but shows generally get multiple seasons, and it's common for a canceled series to be given enough notice to allow the creators to tie up storylines.
Being less willing to cancel shows creates an environment where viewers are more willing to commit to watching them. On Netflix, as on premium cable, at the very worst you knew you would get a full season (and second-season renewals are often announced very early in a show's first season).
Netflix's model of releasing a full season at a time lets viewers know they will at least get that many episodes. The company's former practice of not canceling shows quickly made it very comfortable for viewers to make the decision to watch. They could commit to the first season knowing that more would be coming. And when the end came, there would be a final season to wrap things up.
Fans of Santa Clarita Diet, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Friends From College, and other recently canceled Netflix shows won't get that. Those series were canceled abruptly, leaving their characters dangling. That not only angers fans of the shows, but it also lessens the value of those series in the Netflix catalog going forward.
Why would anyone invest viewing time in a show that ultimately won't pay off any drama it creates? That may be OK for sitcoms (though even those generally have some serial plot elements), but it's disastrous for dramas. This is essentially Netflix orphaning its own programming when it could at least offer an additional episode or two to provide closure for fans.
Netflix will suffer This is not about how long Netflix lets a series go on for. A series like Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt was canceled after four seasons, but its creators knew the end was happening as the final season was produced. Fans might have been sad the show ended, but it got to have a finale instead of just trailing off.
One of Netflix's advantages is that it's not bound by the same economics as ad-supported television. That means a show may have more value than just the size of its audience and, because of that, every series should be treated with kid gloves.
If Netflix commits to airing a show, it should commit to allowing it to conclude. Perhaps it doesn't have to do that with shows canceled after a single season, but it almost never does that. Instead, the company is developing a bad habit of ordering multiple seasons, hooking viewers, and then leaving them high and dry.
Doing this will make people more reluctant to commit to new shows, which could lead to consumers feeling less connected to Netflix. That could lead to the type of cancellations the streaming giant doesn't control -- where customers get frustrated and walk away.
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Post by almostshamus on Apr 30, 2019 23:01:22 GMT
Comcast offered me free netflix as part of a contract renewal offer awhile back. I didn't take it as I did not renew my contract as I intend to look into other options.
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Post by Kao on Apr 30, 2019 23:46:37 GMT
I watched Someone Great and it was a really cute movie about friendship. I don't particularly care for Gina Rodriguez but she was great in this, along with the actresses who played her friends.
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Post by Critical on May 1, 2019 2:16:06 GMT
I really liked Something Great, Kao! I love Gina Rodriguez and thought she and the other two leads had great chemistry. It reminded me of The Bold Type, in that it featured young women who just support one another. They aren't always sweet and "ladylike" (UGH, save me from that descriptor!), but they're definitely more realistic. I loved that, while it was against the backdrop of a break-up, the relationship/need for a man wasn't the point of the movie.
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Post by Bearcata on May 1, 2019 3:03:32 GMT
per Google:
I wanted to see this in the theater but ended up watching it on Netflix instead. I am glad I did. While visually the film is a recreation of Winnie the Pooh and the Hundred Acre Wood and deserves an award as it was wonderfully done, the story itself especially for the first half drags so slowly and seemingly without purpose I had to stop watching. Several days later I decided to finish several Netflix films I had started and Christopher Robin was one of them. The second half of the film is much better paced and is going somewhere. I actually liked it. Overall the film reminded me of a Walt Disney family film which is not a bad thing. I do wish the ending and confrontation with the "woozle" had more depth and intrigue it would have made for a better film.
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Post by Girly18 on May 1, 2019 15:54:30 GMT
Chambers - After having a heart attack, a teenager gets a heart transplant to survive. She subsequently becomes consumed by the mystery surrounding her life-saving heart. Tony Goldwyn and Uma Thurman made this a good watch! Can't Cope, Won't Cope - A darkly comic drama about two young women, as one of them starts to spiral out of control. Not sure I have seen anything else like this on tv. The one friend truly is a hot mess. Special - A man with cerebral palsy decides to do away with his identity as an accident victim and go after the life that he wants. I really really liked this! Tugged my heart and made me laugh. Mirage - A space-time continuum glitch allows Vera to save a boy's life 25 years earlier, but results in the loss of her daughter, whom she fights to get back. Very good suspenseful story. People You May Know - An introverted thirty-something man decides to battle feelings of loneliness by creating a glamorous online persona. 90 minutes I won't get back. Jonathan - 2 versions who inhabit the same body. Another 90 minutes I won't get back. Paper Year - A newlywed couple face challenges during the first year of marriage. Good enough but I feel like I've seen something similar.
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Post by MissGriss on May 1, 2019 17:06:16 GMT
Chambers - After having a heart attack, a teenager gets a heart transplant to survive. She subsequently becomes consumed by the mystery surrounding her life-saving heart. Tony Goldwyn and Uma Thurman made this a good watch! Can't Cope, Won't Cope - A darkly comic drama about two young women, as one of them starts to spiral out of control. Not sure I have seen anything else like this on tv. The one friend truly is a hot mess. Special - A man with cerebral palsy decides to do away with his identity as an accident victim and go after the life that he wants. I really really liked this! Tugged my heart and made me laugh. Mirage - A space-time continuum glitch allows Vera to save a boy's life 25 years earlier, but results in the loss of her daughter, whom she fights to get back. Very good suspenseful story. People You May Know - An introverted thirty-something man decides to battle feelings of loneliness by creating a glamorous online persona. 90 minutes I won't get back. Jonathan - 2 versions who inhabit the same body. Another 90 minutes I won't get back. Paper Year - A newlywed couple face challenges during the first year of marriage. Good enough but I feel like I've seen something similar. Thanks for taking the time summarize so that I know what is and isn't worth my time.
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Post by lonnie on May 1, 2019 23:21:50 GMT
Didn't a movie called Goodbye Christopher Robin also come out last year or around that time?
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Post by shortlived on May 2, 2019 1:02:58 GMT
Lucifer season 4 drops May 8 and the trailer is up. Oh my. I think Netflix will be the best thing that ever happened to the show, more freedom and hopefully more of Tom Ellis. <ahem>
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Post by momrek06 on May 2, 2019 1:09:58 GMT
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Post by lonnie on May 3, 2019 4:56:27 GMT
The new season of Designated Survivor is coming on June 7.
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Post by Kao on May 3, 2019 20:55:24 GMT
Yay! "Alles ist gut" and the original "Hairspray" with Rickie Lake and Debby Harry and Divine! Can't wait to watch.
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Post by lonnie on May 4, 2019 0:31:30 GMT
A new movie version of the classic show Spenser for hire.
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Post by AZChristian on May 5, 2019 19:06:21 GMT
We never watched "The Office" when it was on TV, but started bingeing it on Netflix this week. (Also watched the British version . . . not as good.) We are laughing our heads off. The absolute depiction of every dysfunctional office I've ever worked in - especially the useless boss who has NO idea that he is ridiculous. True story: When hubby and I worked for the same company, we shared a boss who fit the description of ridiculous. He was looking at our company website one day and found a picture that he didn't like, similar to this one: He thought the finger looked too much like a penis pointing to the keyboard, and wanted it changed out for another computer-related picture. As part of his justification, he said (totally seriously) "I've reviewed this with HR, and they agree." Now get this: HIS WIFE was the only person in the entire HR department! So Mr. AZC (who was the liaison with the web-hosting company) had to call his contact there and explain why the picture needed to be changed. Fortunately, the webmaster had a good sense of humor, and laughed ALMOST as much as we did about it.
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Post by MissGriss on May 5, 2019 19:21:05 GMT
LOL AZChristian about the HR review (and the entire situation)!
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Post by Bearcata on May 6, 2019 4:50:08 GMT
I find myself myself watching quite a few documentaries on Netflix. I now know who and what Selfridges is. Interesting to see how modern shops and marketing was developed. Monty Don's French Gardens, again a bit of history and I can't believe how relaxing, how zen it is to watch this gardening series. Tigers of Scotland, always up for helping species, again a wonderful piece of history, I didn't realize that the domestic cat was descended from North Africa and that the wildcat is a European forest wild cat and totally different.
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Post by Girly18 on May 8, 2019 18:53:59 GMT
Crime Diaries: Night Out - After going to a Halloween party, college student Luis Andrés Colmenares is found dead. Was it an accident or murder? Inspired by true events. This is the type of true crime show that hooks you. Great performances. Roswell, New Mexico - Never intended on watching this series but one I hit play it wasn't so bad. Gave me CW nostalgia. Dead to Me -Christina Applegate and Linda Cardellini were perfectly cast. A powerful friendship blossoms between a widow and a free spirit with a shocking secret in this darkly comic series. It's funny, sad, thrilling with plot twists you didn't expect. Watch this! It's very good. Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile - A chronicle of the crimes of Ted Bundy, from the perspective of his longtime girlfriend, who refused to believe the truth about him for years. I liked the different perspective but Zac Efron was so good as Ted that I would have liked the whole film to focus on his story beginning to end.
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Post by FannyMare on May 8, 2019 23:32:28 GMT
We enjoyed both of these. I didn't think I'd enjoy Dead to me..but we were LOL
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Post by MissGriss on May 9, 2019 5:13:44 GMT
We enjoyed both of these. I didn't think I'd enjoy Dead to me..but we were LOL Good to hear regarding Dead to Me. I was really enjoying it until that twist of an ending for the first episode, and that made me think it was going to get too weird, so I wasn't sure if I wanted to keep watching it. But maybe I'll get back to it. Thanks to you both! Having lived in Utah when the whole Bundy thing was going down, I think I'll pass on that one. It was far too creepy at the time for me to want to be entertained by it. UGH!!!
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Post by Punkin on May 10, 2019 19:00:48 GMT
Happy Valley, Seasons 1 & 2. Really good British detective series!
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Post by FannyMare on May 10, 2019 20:20:02 GMT
Happy Valley, Seasons 1 & 2. Really good British detective series! Its an excellent show. Everybody I know, is waiting for another season.
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Post by Critical on May 17, 2019 9:45:23 GMT
I watched and really enjoyed Wine Country over the weekend. Not rocket science, but a fun girls weekend comedy with some of the "old" SNL ladies: Amy Poehler, Anna Gasteyer, Maya Rudolph, Rachel Dratch and Tina Fey, along with several other actresses I wasn't familiar with.
The new season of Nailed It! is available! I have no idea when I'll have time to watch, but I'm looking forward to it.
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Post by waywyrd on May 19, 2019 1:58:35 GMT
I tore through the new season of Nailed It! this afternoon. Fun as always! And now I want some cake. Also watched Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile - eesh. I've watched a whole lot about Ted Bundy, but this was a little different and pretty interesting. I was also impressed with Zac Efron, he should do more serious roles. He had a lot of Bundy's facial expressions down pat. The second season of The Rain was decent. They definitely left it open for more. Annnd I sadly finished all of the new Lucifer season. I liked how it was just a bit darker and dirtier, but still had the feel of the original. It felt like an ending, but I do hope they do another season or two. My only gripe was Eve, she wore thin after a few episodes.
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Post by lonnie on May 19, 2019 2:55:54 GMT
The new season of Slasher on Thursday.
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Post by Punkin on May 19, 2019 19:39:43 GMT
Season 1 of Society. All the adults disappear, leaving a now closed-off town with just teens who have to figure out a new society. Pretty good. No word yet on a second season, but I hope so!
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Post by Girly18 on May 21, 2019 18:31:41 GMT
Dry Martina - A film about an odd encounter with a fan and a tryst with that fan's ex-boyfriend leads a sexually adventurous singer on an escapade in Chile. I'm not sure what the point of this movie was but the main character had such a presence on screen I kept with it. Easy Season 1-3 - Intertwined groups of friends in Chicago fumble through the modern maze of love, sex, technology and culture. Some stories were better than others. I liked when they revisited old characters. Bonding - A NYC grad student moonlighting as a dominatrix enlists her BFF from high school to be her assistant. Short seven 15 minute episodes. I almost gave up after 2 episodes but then it picked up and I saw the humor in it. The Society - A group of teenagers struggle to survive after they're mysteriously transported to a replica of their wealthy town with no trace of their parents. I have to say I was hooked from the start. The only negative is we didn't get enough answers after 10 episodes. Delhi Crime - Based on a Delhi gang rape case, this crime drama follows the Delhi Police investigation into the finding of the men who perpetrated the crime. It's not an easy watch but I can't say enough great things about this true crime drama series. Everyone in the cast was amazing. It's raw, honest, and shocking.
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Post by lonnie on May 22, 2019 5:25:43 GMT
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Post by waywyrd on May 22, 2019 23:49:08 GMT
New Coke was gross...so was that clear Coke they tried. Bleah.
Watched The Highwaymen last night - very good! It was nice to see a film that didn't glamorize Bonnie and Clyde, they were freaking sociopaths. Costner and Harrelson were excellent.
Just started Dead to Me with Christina Applegate. I'm hooked...
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Post by lonnie on May 25, 2019 18:45:25 GMT
What/if
Renee Zellweger agrees to invest in a startup company if she can sleep with the owner's husband.
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