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Post by pasnowbunny2 on Sept 25, 2020 3:57:34 GMT
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 25, 2020 4:12:54 GMT
My goodness Dean is CUTE! I hope Michael can get his sh*t together.
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 25, 2020 4:21:36 GMT
How old is Dean.? Good luck Ashley, you're going to need it.. |
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Post by acookertv on Sept 25, 2020 17:39:42 GMT
I honestly believe that Ashley and Michael have always had an open marriage and she's okay with it. I can't decide if her rule is that it not be made public and she not be embarrassed by it, OR if she is fine with things getting out when they are filming because it keeps her at the center of the show. But I don't think that monogamy has ever been a part of her and Michael's relationship.
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Post by pasnowbunny2 on Sept 26, 2020 3:30:13 GMT
hey...fine...whatever works for you BUT eventually this will affect their children but it's their life.
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 26, 2020 4:51:46 GMT
hey...fine...whatever works for you BUT eventually this will affect their children but it's their life. It absolutely will..;-( |
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Post by acookertv on Sept 26, 2020 12:25:03 GMT
How? There are other open marriages out there. If parents sex lives are impacting their children, there are bigger issues.
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 26, 2020 17:57:36 GMT
It depends on how it's brought to the child. If its talked about openly and lovingly it won't be as hard for them. But if these relationships are hidden and secretive well then it must be something to be ashamed about. I'm not saying the kids should grow up hearing about their parents sex life...but if the CONCEPT of an open marriage is talked about the kids won't feel like it's something they are suppose to hide and be embarrassed about. It will also have to be FULLY ok with both partners. The children will feel the discontent if it's not.
Sure...there are plenty of open marriages that work. But there are plenty that don't.
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 26, 2020 18:10:22 GMT
I know of two couples with open marriages. I don't think the children ( JMHO) have to know until they are way, way older.
The one couple I know have no children. They are happy, but starting to think it's time to start being monogamous
The second couple with an open marriage, had two children, it did not go well, and they separated. They are still friends, but someone in the open marriage, no longer wanted it to be open.
I'm never sure why you marry, if you are going to bed with other men and woman, but that's just me
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Post by pasnowbunny2 on Sept 27, 2020 2:47:20 GMT
True there are many open marriages, what ever floats your boat, however they aren't doing a reality tv show. How Ashley & Michael explain it to their children is their business.
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 27, 2020 4:42:34 GMT
I really don't give a damn what Ashley and Michael do. Little Dean concerns me, but not enough to stop watching the trainwreck..lol
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Post by acookertv on Sept 28, 2020 10:52:01 GMT
I have to admit I'm surprised that Monique is still on the show after her altercation with Candace.
I'm also convinced now that Ashley and Michael allow the infidelity stories to be on the show to keep her relevant and a center of the show. It's one thing to do with it - but it's another thing to have multiple discussions about everything. I think it's a REALLY risky thing to do. But I think they are staging it for the show.
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 29, 2020 22:10:19 GMT
Whoa, Monique just snapped. Her husband was not pleased hearing about this fight. I think she needs some anger management.
I don't know what Ashley sees in Micheal, he's kind of creepy imho.
I don't know if Giselle and Jamal will make it. Her father doesn't like him..
I felt sorry for Karen, Ray is lucky to have a fine woman like Karen. What's the matter with these men..
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 5, 2020 21:30:02 GMT
Well Monique suddenly has amnesia. She told the producer and her husband what happened. I think she needs more than her pastors help, she needs therapy. Gizelle with her bodyguard, come on now.  As for what Gizelle and Jamal need and don't need, it has nothing to do with Monique. Robyn was very precise in what she saw, and how she related that back to Monique. Monique needs to apologize , bigtime, and Candiace needs to stop getting in peoples faces.. Was she crying, or just dabbing the tiny corners of her eyes..weird. Does Ashley bring her baby everywhere? Poor little Dean.. The security guard looked so bored.. |
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Post by acookertv on Oct 5, 2020 21:54:44 GMT
Giselle was over the top with the body guard - but that's who she is. Was it Giselle or Robin who listed out all the other threatening things that Monique has done that show this wasn't a one time thing? Whoever said that IMO nailed it.
Monique was on WWHL last night and i was NOT impressed with the way she defended herself. To me, she came across as if every thing she'd done was someone else's fault. Andy confronted her with everything, and instead of owning it and talking about how she'd learned to do better, she continued to justify everything she did by pointing out things that other people did - none of which were as bad.
I like her husband so much that i want to like her - but she makes it too hard!
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 10, 2020 19:21:59 GMT
The fact that she admitted that she wasn't remorseful says it all. I thought Giselle bringing the bodyguard was hilarious  |
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Post by Girly18 on Oct 11, 2020 17:54:40 GMT
First time missing a Real Housewives season in real time. I am waiting for BB22 to end to get my binge on but I heard this season is wild!! What am I in for?
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 30, 2020 19:47:54 GMT
Gizelle, can't she read her own children. They don't care if their father is around, or not. They certainly looked indifferent when she said he was coming, it was uncomfortable to watch. Karen, that whole rose scene was embarrassing, poor Ray could barely make it up the stairs, let alone have fun in the tub. Robyn, what's up with you? Your beautiful, Juan is playing you imho. Just don't diss Karen's wigs, when your selling hats., you didn't make the hats. Candice and Monique are getting boring, I don't care. Candice has a good voice though. Wendy you have 4 degrees, what's with you and your mother? |
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Post by acookertv on Dec 1, 2020 13:27:05 GMT
I think Giselle's daughters are so used to being letdown by their dad that they've come to expect it.
Karen really didn't think that bath tub scene out. There was no way that a man as dignified as Ray was going to strip down in front of the cameras and join her in the bath! It was an awkward thing years ago when Tamra and Eddie did it on the OC and as camera shy as Eddie was, he looked like a famewhore compared to Ray!
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Post by acookertv on Dec 7, 2020 15:44:58 GMT
How many problems with production does Michael get to create before they tell him he's not welcome on the show anymore? If I remember right, his entire butt grabbing incident involved a Bravo producer. Now we have him barging into the production room throwing a fit because Chris pushed him away? I mean, I'm talking about it so I acknowledge it makes good TV. But is it worth putting up with all his crap when other people bring it for the cameras without all the issues?
On Bravos' Chat Room, one of the ladies compared him to Simon Vankempen from RHoNY. I think there are a lot of similarities. However, Simon was just a famewhore who supported his wife. I'm not sure Michael has the redeeming qualities that Simon did!
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 7, 2020 23:18:47 GMT
Michael is a creep, he's even creepier when he's drunk( a belligerent drunk.) who seems to have a thing for Juan imho.Ashley is pregnant again, what is she thinking? I don't think she cares what Michael does.Dean is a very cute little boy..  Gizelle is still saying, she has a relationship with that busy guyJamall, not buying it, why is she settling. ? I hope Robyn is happy, she should stay engaged and see how it goes. Karen, got caught, I still like her, and I would have left that lot as well. Candace loves drama, she thinks she's changed, hmm , not buying that either. Roll on the reunion! |
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Post by acookertv on Dec 8, 2020 11:49:53 GMT
I have a feeling it's going to feel like work to watch this reunion!
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Post by JustJuls on Dec 8, 2020 19:59:05 GMT
I loved the proposal from Juan to Robyn and how happy all the girls were for her. Nice to see something happy happen before all hell broke loose I'm honestly mortified for Ashley. But she stays...so I can't feel sorry for her anymore. It could be that she just wants children and that we may see the relationship end soon after. I don't know. But Michael should have stuck with the plan and stayed away from liquor. Seems that is part of his problem. Karen and the tub scene was cringe-worthy. I could barely look at her. |
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Post by JustJuls on Dec 14, 2020 19:56:07 GMT
Yikes. Gizelle had a rough night!  |
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Post by acookertv on Dec 14, 2020 20:13:28 GMT
With her responses, I had a really hard time figuring out if what was being thrown out about Gizelle was true or not. Her responding on Bravo's Chat Room didn't help either. I do think that her relationship is not the best or most ideal for her, but I'm not sure I buy that she'd ask her ex to pretend he's with her in order to give her a place on the show. I mean, if Robin can continue to come back season after season, surely Gizelle is not threatened. If they were looking to boot her for not having storylines, would they add her to the chat room show?
On BCR, Porsha commented that when you're on a show like that, people are constantly reaching out with rumors and gossip about other cast members hoping their gossip makes it on the show. I could see that happening. I also could see Monique being one of those who'd jump on any of it that served her well without looking at it with a critical eye since it is slamming someone she doesn't like.
I think it's far more likely that Gizelle was feeling lonely as her friends secured relationships, and she was not. It can be very lonely to go from a circle of friends who are all single and having fun together to being the one person in that circle not in a relationship. So I think she turned to Jamal as someone who can make her feel good believing she's not all alone. I also think that of Potomac were ever cancelled, Gizelle would consider using Jamal as an excuse to move to Atlanta if she could join that cast. I don't hear talking about long term dreams with Jamal. I don't think she's fooled herself into believing she'll be together in a monogamous relationship with him happily ever after. But I think I do still think they have rekindled something. I don't think he's changed ... and I think in her core she knows that. But right now, he's helping her to not feel lonely. Sooner or later, she'll realize that's foolish because if she tells the world she's with him, it closes off her opportunities to meet someone who would be better for her
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 15, 2020 2:34:27 GMT
All in yellow, I was expecting big bird to pop out. Loved seeing all the hairstyles and wigs. Robyn's hair looked very strange though, spotted or something . I felt so sorry for Gizelle, I had no idea Jamal cheated on her as much as he had, plus he has other children, and she didn't deny any of it. I think she is a beautiful woman, so what's the problem. :-(
Monique and her receipts, wth? how does she have the time. It was a chance to have the heat off of her problem!
Ashley's creepy husband does remind me of Candice's husband. I don't like either of them that much. Something about Candice, or her personality reminds me of Rinna
Wendy , that was funny about her degrees, she is proud, I get that, and of her nationality . Her little girl is beautiful
Karen seems so entitled, her marriage isn't so great ..
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Post by acookertv on Dec 28, 2020 4:51:10 GMT
So, Moniques Chris came to the reunion angry about the show talking about his sons paternity ... and his way to deal with it is to make every single topic turn back to his sons paternity. The man doesn’t understand how tv works!
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Post by JustJuls on Dec 28, 2020 19:09:13 GMT
He was in a state. Holy moly! He literally didn't talk about anything else. I understand being upset but even Andy was like "we talked about this for two hours Chris. It's done. It wasn't a plot, it wasn't a storyline. Lets move on." And still EVERYTHING came back to that.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 28, 2020 20:37:09 GMT
I couldn’t decide if he was over the top protecting Monique or if he was over the top trying to help her secure a spot in the cast next season.
Edited to add- I just read Monique said she’s quit so I guess that rules out him trying to save her spot!
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 28, 2020 21:07:11 GMT
Gizelle sees more of her bodyguard, than Jamal.  .. I can't believe how very torn up Candice is, about this fight, but she can laugh the very next minute, she's terribly childish.imho. Looks like Karen has her storyline for next season Ashley looked bored and distant Robyn, I like her, but she's not in step with Juan imho. Monique was apparently offered a contract ( perhaps just friend) and decided to quit. I think that's why Chris went on about his lovely son, they knew she was quitting.. Andy , is sometimes , a real turd.. |
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As for what Gizelle and Jamal need and don't need, it has nothing to do with Monique. 
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