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Post by FannyMare on Jun 9, 2021 4:34:15 GMT
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Post by momrek06 on Jun 9, 2021 16:36:17 GMT
Oh wow. This is getting so messy and so sad.
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Post by mayamaisha on Jun 9, 2021 17:07:08 GMT
Is the timing of her divorce suspicious? I'm not up on all this but I think it's pitiful
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 9, 2021 20:13:03 GMT
Is the timing of her divorce suspicious? I'm not up on all this but I think it's pitiful It all seems very grubby to me. I don't know the timing either .
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Post by amber on Jun 10, 2021 5:17:57 GMT
Seems as if that TPTB at Bravo and Evolution has decided to assist the bankruptcy trustees, the court, victims, and creditors by showcasing Girardi assets and by connecting the dots. Acookertv, you were so right when calling out Erika and Tom's scheme from the very beginning.
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Post by amber on Jun 10, 2021 13:44:04 GMT
UPDATE: The judge ruled against Erika's motions. Ronald Richards is hired and no gag order. (Just a thought, but I don't think Erika helped herself much by doxing Judge Bigalow.) www.law360.com/articles/1391881
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Post by Punkin on Jun 11, 2021 2:25:45 GMT
I hope this gold digging Bi!ch loses all her ill gotten gains from the victims her corrupt husband stole from! Sickening!
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Post by prism on Jun 12, 2021 0:46:37 GMT
I hope this gold digging Bi!ch loses all her ill gotten gains from the victims her corrupt husband stole from! Sickening! It looks like the last episode was filmed early Nov 2020. At that time Erika probably knew she’d be unmasked for her part in years and years of felonies. Yet she’s still playing ice queen, looking down her substantially altered nose as if she’ll be exonerated and beloved as the innocent victim. What’s up with that?
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Post by momrek06 on Jun 12, 2021 14:15:31 GMT
I hope this gold digging Bi!ch loses all her ill gotten gains from the victims her corrupt husband stole from! Sickening! It looks like the last episode was filmed early Nov 2020. At that time Erika probably knew she’d be unmasked for her part in years and years of felonies. Yet she’s still playing ice queen, looking down her substantially altered nose as if she’ll be exonerated and beloved as the innocent victim. What’s up with that?Yes I am finally caught up. Yes it was during the actual Election as the ladies spoke about who they would be voting for. And when they were on the boat in TAHOE I think it was Garcelle that asked Erika what Tom was doing for the weekend while she was in Tahoe and Erika said "At the Firm" and she was very appreciative of his devotion to his job etc. THEN we see the previews and Erika is filing for divorce. What confuses me is how quick Tom was diagnosed with Alzheimer's and not able to function. That happened SO FAST. Esp since Tom was AT THE FIRM the week before filing for the divorce.
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Post by prism on Jun 13, 2021 22:58:06 GMT
It looks like the last episode was filmed early Nov 2020. At that time Erika probably knew she’d be unmasked for her part in years and years of felonies. Yet she’s still playing ice queen, looking down her substantially altered nose as if she’ll be exonerated and beloved as the innocent victim. What’s up with that?Yes I am finally caught up. Yes it was during the actual Election as the ladies spoke about who they would be voting for. And when they were on the boat in TAHOE I think it was Garcelle that asked Erika what Tom was doing for the weekend while she was in Tahoe and Erika said "At the Firm" and she was very appreciative of his devotion to his job etc. THEN we see the previews and Erika is filing for divorce. What confuses me is how quick Tom was diagnosed with Alzheimer's and not able to function. That happened SO FAST. Esp since Tom was AT THE FIRM the week before filing for the divorce. Well.... Yeah! Some serious smoke 'n mirrors going on there. I think it was Bethany Frankel who said of an earlier debacle, "you can't play smart and dumb at the same time" ....
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Post by amber on Jun 15, 2021 1:27:22 GMT
Watching the ABC documentary on Hulu, "The Housewife and the Hustler" ...
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Post by Punkin on Jun 15, 2021 5:59:01 GMT
Thanks for the reminder, Amber! OMG! I kinda knew about Tom's connection to the Brockovich situation and a suit about winning awards for the victims of a crashed Lion flight in Indonesia. But I had no idea about his connection to the victims of a nearby neighborhood of San Bruno, CA where a huge Pacific Gas and Electric gas line exploded and incinerated a whole neighborhood. This hit close to home in more than one way!
My oldest and dearest friend lived 5 blocks from the inferno! I knew she and her husband were at their summer home in Russian River and I phoned them there to be sure they were watching the news. They were with much apprehension, but neighbors were telling them that their home was OK for now. I later learned that an old boyfriend of mine, who I was still close to, was one of the two PG&E employees who rushed to where the gas could be cut off (though that barely mitigated the horrific damage and loss of life). They were highly lauded for their actions! I'd never heard that Tom, the Ice Queen's husband, was involved and stealing from those victims as well to support her ridiculous "career".
OMG! That shallow bitch! And the rest of those dingbats on RHoBH for being equally shallow. Makes you wonder how Bravo finds so many narcissistic psychos who are stupid enough to put their grifting out in public. And there have been several of them!
I wonder of her cop son is proud of her? Or if she even gives a shit.
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Post by momrek06 on Jun 15, 2021 6:09:16 GMT
Watching the ABC documentary on Hulu, "The Housewife and the Hustler" ... Me too. All I can say is wow, Tom sure was a “snake” as one of his former clients stated. Tom has been misappropriating clients “wins” from lawsuits for YEARS. 😡😡😡 Tom gave Erika $20 million in loans from his law firm. Yup one thing is for sure Tom is the HUSTLER as the documentary states in the title. 😡😡😡 IMHO the diagnose of Alzheimer’s (to me) is really suspect. 🤔🤔🤔
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Post by amber on Jun 15, 2021 20:31:42 GMT
I found the program difficult to watch. New? Watching and listening to the victims. I also didn't know Erika use to work at Tom's firm. Finally, The Housewife and the Hustler is not just a one off, it is or will be a series.
IMO, Erika absolutely knew Tom wasn't paying clients, at least by mid-2020, but probably long before then. She and Tom are heartless, narcissistic scums of the earth. I also tend to believe Tom and Erika considered her "Erika Jayne career" an investment that would eventually bring in big money. With their house of cards falling in and, thus concluding the jig is up, Tom and Erika devised their 2 prong plan to escape responsibility: Tom has Alzheimer's and Erika divorcing Tom for having a affair 6 years back.
ABC included all sorts of people connected as narrators. Among them are: Dana Wilkey, who predicted divorce a month before Erika filed, Danielle Staub, who had met Erika while filing WWHL and both worked at the same popular New Jersey strip club (although not at the same time), Heather McDonald who has been commenting on the case during her podcast, attorneys Chris Darden (we know him from OJ) and Brian Kabateck (I have no idea who he is), and Kim Archie, who worked for Girardi as a legal consultant, later became a client when her son died, and who recommended the Girardi firm to her best friend and mother of the Ruigomezes gas victim client.
Tom had been stealing money from clients, not for years, but for DECADES and got away with it by being a high roller political campaign contributor, granting favors and lavishly wining and dining the right people.
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Post by amber on Jun 15, 2021 20:36:03 GMT
Erika's attorney is withdrawing from representing her in both (personal and business) bankruptcy litigations.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 15, 2021 21:42:51 GMT
I read that this morning amber.Now what?
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Post by woodiedog on Jun 15, 2021 22:36:40 GMT
Knowing that victims never received their compensation makes me ill. I hate thinking back on all the episodes where Erika flaunted her lifestyle. She had private jet trips, high end jewelry, more designer clothes than she could ever use, glam squad who practically lived with her, an apartment (?) in the city.
RHoNJ, RHoDC, RHoSLC, and now RHoBH all have women who “allegedly” scammed others. Are these women really stupid or really psychopathic? Why would they expose themselves to to the TV audience when they’re involved in illegal activities?
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Post by momrek06 on Jun 16, 2021 0:21:41 GMT
Knowing that victims never received their compensation makes me ill.
I hate thinking back on all the episodes where Erika flaunted her lifestyle. She had private jet trips, high end jewelry, more designer clothes than she could ever use, glam squad who practically lived with her, an apartment (?) in the city. I feel in my gut that EJ knew and knows ALL.OF.THIS. about the VICTIMS. EJ knows what Tom did. She can DENY it all she wants BUT there cannot be anyone out there that believes she was "kept in the dark" about those HORRIFIC ACTIONS of Tom. TOM knew sh&t was about to hit the fan hence EJ grabbing all her VALUABLES and running to lease an L.A. apartment and filing for divorce. BUT THEY BOTH KNEW. This is some SERIOUS SH&T and NOW it was catching up with THEM. Yes THEM. Tom and EJ. BOTH of them created this FAKE divorce and Tom's FAKE diagnosis of Dementia/Alzheimer's BECAUSE they feel that the courts will have sympathy on Tom. Tom (as the DOC stated) has so many wealthy people/friends in high places that will COVER FOR HIM and HIS LIES and sign paperwork that he is NOT capable of testifying in court. How could TOM and EJ walk around knowing there are all those VICTIMS out there who were NOT compensated from Tom's law firm??? How can EJ continue to be on RHoBH?
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Post by amber on Jun 16, 2021 4:43:04 GMT
I read that this morning amber .Now what? Earlier today I intended to to include in a post that Erika wouldn't show up to the reunion. But given she is handling most matters ass backwards, I mostly expect her to show up. Why would Erika's attorney firing her as a client? The only thing I can think of is Erika is refusing to take their direction and cooperate with the courts. Instead, she is being personally directed by Tom in regard to her defense. In other words, the divorce and the Alzheimer's diagnoses is a sham.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 16, 2021 11:02:10 GMT
Another possibility with Erica's attorney that can't be ignored is that they could have identified a conflict between his law firm and Tom's dealings. I've had friends who tried and failed to secure an attorney repeatedly because of small retainers paid out to multiple law firms to block them from serving as opposing counsel.
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Post by momrek06 on Jun 16, 2021 15:51:13 GMT
I have so many questions about all the misappropriating that TOM did for my son and dil as they are Attorney's in DC but they had a baby on the 12th and are consumed with the new baby.....BUT I wonder what PG&E thinks
when they paid $565 MILLION in settlements to TOM's law firm on the pipeline explosion and he basically KEPT IT ALL.
It appears from the Victims, Tom gave them SOME money but certainly not at all what they were do.
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Post by JustJuls on Jun 16, 2021 17:27:01 GMT
I watched The Housewife and the Hustler last night and one thing is for sure....Tom is a snake. Honestly I don't know why he would be hired for any court case ever. The things he said to his clients were strange and creepy imo "Don't me mad at me" ...."I'm a good guy"..."I'm here for you." So weird. We can tell that he is 100% guilty of this. What we can't tell is if Erika knew all of it...some of it...or none of it. The feeling I get is that Tom was trying to keep up an act with her. I'm guessing that early on she had no idea about his money or the law firm or any of his court cases. She saw the money roll in and that was just fine by her. I don't think she cared to ask or to know the truth so she went blindly on. I do think that at some point she knew. I'm assuming when the court cases started she had to be briefed on it. But I don't think they sat down and conspired this together. I think the act of taking was all Tom. Of course since it's not obvious ...we are all just speculating on what we THINK happened. I'm sure I'm totally wrong And I SO could have done without Danielle Staub.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 16, 2021 17:31:48 GMT
I have so many questions about all the misappropriating that TOM did for my son and dil as they are Attorney's in DC but they had a baby on the 12th and are consumed with the new baby.....BUT I wonder what PG&E thinks when they paid $565 MILLION in settlements to TOM's law firm on the pipeline explosion and he basically KEPT IT ALL. It appears from the Victims, Tom gave them SOME money but certainly not at all what they were do. It's funny, they dropped her right after the documentary aired..
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Post by acookertv on Jun 16, 2021 18:12:02 GMT
I watched The Housewife and the Hustler last night and one thing is for sure....Tom is a snake. Honestly I don't know why he would be hired for any court case ever. The things he said to his clients were strange and creepy imo "Don't me mad at me" ...."I'm a good guy"..."I'm here for you." So weird. We can tell that he is 100% guilty of this. What we can't tell is if Erika knew all of it...some of it...or none of it. The feeling I get is that Tom was trying to keep up an act with her. I'm guessing that early on she had no idea about his money or the law firm or any of his court cases. She saw the money roll in and that was just fine by her. I don't think she cared to ask or to know the truth so she went blindly on. I do think that at some point she knew. I'm assuming when the court cases started she had to be briefed on it. But I don't think they sat down and conspired this together. I think the act of taking was all Tom. Of course since it's not obvious ...we are all just speculating on what we THINK happened. I'm sure I'm totally wrong And I SO could have done without Danielle Staub. I have not watched the special yet, but this makes a lot of sense. Even before all this came out, in her years on Housewives, people observed that Tom and Erica did not have a traditional true partnership kind of marriage. They certainly did present things as if she was his hot arm candy, and he paid the bills to give her the lifestyle she wanted. I remember back to a couple of seasons ago when Erica wanted to do some sort of work to update their house and they filmed a scene of her discussing it with Tom. It came across like a teenager asking her parents for money to buy the new sweaters she wanted from The Gap (with the socks to match each sweater of course). If they truly had a kept woman sort of relationship, then it would make sense that Tom didn't share all the details of how the bills got paid, and that Erica didn't care to ask.
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Post by momrek06 on Jun 16, 2021 21:17:04 GMT
But when Tom "loaned" Erika $20 million dollars for her entertainment company called EJ GLOBAL LLC don't you think she asked Tom where he got the money from?
I just can't imagine that Erika accepted the money and looked the other way as to where Tom secured this VERY LARGE AMOUNT of money.
Maybe when they first met and married she had no clue he was misappropriating funds all over the place BUT in the last 10 years I am convinced SHE KNEW exactly what he was doing.
It is just sickening what he did to all those victims.
To those who have yet to watch the docu you will be disgusted with Tom and so heartbroken for these victims he SCAMMED.
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Post by momrek06 on Jun 16, 2021 21:19:52 GMT
And I SO could have done without Danielle Staub. OMG I did not even RECOGNIZE her until the docu posted her name as she talked...........DS stop already with all the BOTOX and PLASTIC SURGERY.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 16, 2021 21:27:49 GMT
But when Tom " loaned" Erika $20 million dollars for her entertainment company called EJ GLOBAL LLC don't you think she asked Tom where he got the money from? I just can't imagine that Erika accepted the money and looked the other way as to where Tom secured this VERY LARGE AMOUNT of money. Maybe when they first met and married she had no clue he was misappropriating funds all over the place BUT in the last 10 years I am convinced SHE KNEW exactly what he was doing. It is just sickening what he did to all those victims. To those who have yet to watch the docu you will be disgusted with Tom and so heartbroken for these victims he SCAMMED. In all honesty, if they truly had the kind of relationship where Erica was arm candy and in return for that her bills got paid, why would she ask where it came from? Yes, it's a large amount of money. Compared to your or my family budgets, it's an obscene amount of money. But they are not living in our world. They're living in a world of private jets, multimillion dollar homes, and obscenely expensive cars. So that amount of money in their world is going to be seen as different from yours or mine. The one thing I have gathered over the years about Tom and Erica's relationship is an assumption that it's not a traditional marriage. Once I accept that, there are a lot of norms and expectations that go out the window. She may have known. She may not have known. I have no idea what the truth is, don't live under the delusion that they're going to tell me. So I can either make assumptions and be outraged over them, or I can accept that i don't know enough to draw a conclusion. I choose to accept that I don't know.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 16, 2021 21:51:22 GMT
But when Tom " loaned" Erika $20 million dollars for her entertainment company called EJ GLOBAL LLC don't you think she asked Tom where he got the money from? I just can't imagine that Erika accepted the money and looked the other way as to where Tom secured this VERY LARGE AMOUNT of money. Maybe when they first met and married she had no clue he was misappropriating funds all over the place BUT in the last 10 years I am convinced SHE KNEW exactly what he was doing. It is just sickening what he did to all those victims. To those who have yet to watch the docu you will be disgusted with Tom and so heartbroken for these victims he SCAMMED. He was just her piggy bank .I want ,I want .I could never take to her, and quite frankly ,their marriage always appeared to be a sham.
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Post by momrek06 on Jun 16, 2021 22:04:03 GMT
I am outraged over all this simply because while Tom and EJ are flying all over the world in one of their TWO OWNED AIRPLANES, EJ with her GLAM SQUAD, expensive jewelry and designer clothing, victims are waiting for their settlement checks. I feel HORRIBLE for all those people he SCAMMED yearly, monthly, weekly, daily, hourly as he and EJ enjoyed the HIGH LIFE. I mean those PHONE CALLS......how did Tom sleep at night??? acookertv wait until you get a chance to see the docu, you will see how Tom played all these people who were SUFFERING already from explosions, plane crashes and botched surgeries. As JustJuls said, Tom would call them and leave these creepy voicemails about how he is there for them and all this other bullsh&t ALL THE WHILE Tom knew he was NOT sending them money as he was KEEPING IT FOR HIMSELF.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 16, 2021 23:04:20 GMT
I wasn't talking about Tom Kar - I was talking about Erica.
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