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Post by newsboi on Oct 19, 2021 12:56:57 GMT
Um, if the ratings are tanking on all LVP shows perhaps it's because (other than her fans on this board) we can't stand her and have tuned out. Why in the world would Andy bring her back and risk the ratings on TRHOBH?
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Post by acookertv on Oct 19, 2021 13:09:01 GMT
Lisa is the kind of person who gets brought back if a cast is splitting apart and don't really have any connections to each other anymore. I think Garcelle's complaints about feeling like an outsider with the close-knit bunch shows that this cast isn't having that issue.
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 19, 2021 15:02:26 GMT
Time for a change and obviously if they are actively filming now......looks like the same ole same ole cast. OR we would have seen all over social media that it has changed. I hope the whole season is not about Erika again..........GAWD that was horrid. I see that picture of her (esp since the Reunion show) all over social media when she threatened Sutton and is showing her teeth.......YUP, still looks like a rabid dog to me.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 19, 2021 15:09:56 GMT
I'm not sure I agree that this cast is in need of a shake up. They have genuine connections to each other, support each other, but have conflicts too. I think it works. Each of the women have others they are connected to. To me, shake ups are needed when every single gathering no matter the size results in knock down drag out fights. The conflict we're seeing in BH right now is over the question of whether or not you stand with friends when they are down. It's interesting to watch.
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 19, 2021 15:56:44 GMT
Time for a change and obviously if they are actively filming now......looks like the same ole same ole cast. OR we would have seen all over social media that it has changed. I hope the whole season is not about Erika again..........GAWD that was horrid. I see that picture of her (esp since the Reunion show) all over social media when she threatened Sutton and is showing her teeth.......YUP, still looks like a rabid dog to me. People are tuning in to see the rabid dog. I liked Rinna at one time, now she's such a kiss ass, tptb love how she stirs it up..I wonder who they'll pick on this season...?
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Post by amber on Oct 19, 2021 17:30:24 GMT
Um, if the ratings are tanking on all LVP shows perhaps it's because (other than her fans on this board) we can't stand her and have tuned out. Why in the world would Andy bring her back and risk the ratings on TRHOBH? Has any new series done well on Peacock? I am a huge LVP fan and I know I haven't bothered to figure out how to watch. I know there is a paywall and I could already be paying for access though something else I subscribe to but I wouldn't know or really care for I intentionally keep my watching universe to a minimum. I have, however, watched an episode of two of Vanderpump Dogs and Overserved broadcasted on Bravo. I'm ecstatic at the thought of LVP's return! Haven't a clue who "we" are, but LVP is, after all said and done, a fan favorite! It's being speculated there is another LVP spinoff being vetted and, also, I think Andy needs LVP.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 19, 2021 17:53:17 GMT
I think this says it all. If big fans can't be bothered to find ways to watch LVP, her draw is not strong enough to be treated as a big star by Bravo. Because I can tell you when Dave Grohl has released new documentaries or Docuseries on various platforms, I have figured out how to watch them quickly!
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 19, 2021 17:56:47 GMT
Um, if the ratings are tanking on all LVP shows perhaps it's because (other than her fans on this board) we can't stand her and have tuned out. Why in the world would Andy bring her back and risk the ratings on TRHOBH? Has any new series done well on Peacock? I am a huge LVP fan and I know I haven't bothered to figure out how to watch. I know there is a paywall and I could already be paying for access though something else I subscribe to but I wouldn't know or really care for I intentionally keep my watching universe to a minimum. I have however, watched an episode of two of Vanderpump Dogs and Overserved broadcasted on Bravo. I'm ecstatic at the thought of LVP's return! Haven't a clue who "we" are, but LVP is, after all said and done, is a fan favorite! It's also being speculated there is another LVP spinoff being vetted and, also, I think Andy needs I'm not paying for anymore streaming? It's a cash grab, I am watching vanderpump rules mostly because I love babies..I'm enjoying SLC,and Potomac.
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Post by Girly18 on Oct 19, 2021 19:22:18 GMT
I wish Andy would grill all housewives like he is with Erika. Would make the reunions way more interesting.
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 19, 2021 20:28:00 GMT
I wish Andy would grill all housewives like he is with Erika. Would make the reunions way more interesting. IMHO this was a very unusual season for the BH cast. Along with that, EJ and her retelling of the events that led up to Tom's law firm imploding are just not adding up. "allegedly" I think it definitely calls for Andy to grill EJ. What does he have to lose....nothing. Nothing at all. But as you all have witnessed, it appears EJ is only speaking to Rinna. www.realitytea.com/2021/09/13/erika-jayne-only-speaking-rinna/
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 19, 2021 21:56:22 GMT
I think that's wise.
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 19, 2021 22:14:59 GMT
BUT it was not their choice. EJ cut them off at the knees. They all listened to her exhaustingly vent episode after episode after episode while they listened episode after episode BUT dare they challenge anything EJ says then BANG they are kicked to the curb by her. The rabid dog appears, shows her teeth and the ladies quickly back away.
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 19, 2021 22:19:26 GMT
I meant that I think it's wise for Erika to keep her circle small right now. They all sat around asking her questions every episode
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 20, 2021 1:58:58 GMT
I meant that I think it's wise for Erika to keep her circle small right now. They all sat around asking her questions every episode EJ should have never done RH if she wanted a small circle of friends. I for one was shocked she choose to stay on RH when everything in her life was imploding. But wouldn't you ask questions if a good friend of your's was going through something that EJ is going through. I am sure you would not just sit there saying nothing as your friend vented to you. I mean look at Tom's accident when he rolled his car. The ladies were shocked when she told them. Why didn't EJ say something earlier, they all wondered? Then she adds to the stories she has told the ladies and they ask her about it and immediately EJ is annoyed that it appears she is being challenged. Then next thing you know Tom was unconscious for 12 hours. And then the next story is her son rolls his car? Two rolled cars?
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Post by acookertv on Oct 20, 2021 2:20:47 GMT
I meant that I think it's wise for Erika to keep her circle small right now. They all sat around asking her questions every episode EJ should have never done RH if she wanted a small circle of friends. I for one was shocked she choose to stay on RH when everything in her life was imploding. But wouldn't you ask questions if a good friend of your's was going through something that EJ is going through. I am sure you would not just sit there saying nothing as your friend vented to you. I mean look at Tom's accident when he rolled his car. The ladies were shocked when she told them. Why didn't EJ say something earlier, they all wondered? Then she adds to the stories she has told the ladies and they ask her about it and immediately EJ is annoyed that it appears she is being challenged. Then next thing you know Tom was unconscious for 12 hours. And then the next story is her son rolls his car? Two rolled cars? Erica didn’t need a small circle of friends until her husbands legal troubles began. She most likely didn’t know she’d have that need when she started on the show years ago. Once the s hit the fan as they were filming, I think she was damned if she did and damned if she didn’t. Had she run from the show it would have suggested guilt. Taylor didn’t run when Russels troubles started. Neither did Teresa. By sticking around, she’s got a voice in telling her story. As for friends asking questions, I think the questions that are appropriate are along the lines of how are you doing and what do you need. Details of the mess she’ll share as she’s ready. I don’t think it’s necessary to demand details. While I haven’t gone through anything like Erica is, I’ve been through tough times like most people. When I have I’ve appreciated the people who were there to listen as opposed to making me feel like they were seeking gossip.
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 20, 2021 2:26:53 GMT
I don't think this crew is Erika's true small circle of friends I think she has "real life" friends and then "Housewives" friends. Some of whom have become close over the years but still wouldn't be considered her closest most trusted friends. These ones are being paid to be in her life And a few of them don't even like her. Ya can't compare that to my relationship with my closet circle of friends of over 35 years. It's 2 totally different things. And even at that...I would only feel comfortable enough prying into my most longest, closest friendships. I would never question someone so much that I only know while filming a tv show Unless I was paid to do it
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Post by Punkin on Oct 20, 2021 4:32:57 GMT
" And then the next story is her son rolls his car? Two rolled cars?" And where did her son find snow to roll over in?
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 20, 2021 5:24:21 GMT
I meant that I think it's wise for Erika to keep her circle small right now. They all sat around asking her questions every episode EJ should have never done RH if she wanted a small circle of friends. I for one was shocked she choose to stay on RH when everything in her life was imploding. But wouldn't you ask questions if a good friend of your's was going through something that EJ is going through. I am sure you would not just sit there saying nothing as your friend vented to you. I mean look at Tom's accident when he rolled his car. The ladies were shocked when she told them. Why didn't EJ say something earlier, they all wondered? Then she adds to the stories she has told the ladies and they ask her about it and immediately EJ is annoyed that it appears she is being challenged. Then next thing you know Tom was unconscious for 12 hours. And then the next story is her son rolls his car? Two rolled cars? She needs the money, especially now, this is her main source of income.I think she leads a pretty lonely life, with friends like her make up artist, who she pays. Imho, there are no other friends. Her stories changed often,Kyle said that, but was too chicken shit to say it to her face. That's why she stopped speaking to Kyle.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 20, 2021 10:51:23 GMT
EJ should have never done RH if she wanted a small circle of friends. I for one was shocked she choose to stay on RH when everything in her life was imploding. But wouldn't you ask questions if a good friend of your's was going through something that EJ is going through. I am sure you would not just sit there saying nothing as your friend vented to you. I mean look at Tom's accident when he rolled his car. The ladies were shocked when she told them. Why didn't EJ say something earlier, they all wondered? Then she adds to the stories she has told the ladies and they ask her about it and immediately EJ is annoyed that it appears she is being challenged. Then next thing you know Tom was unconscious for 12 hours. And then the next story is her son rolls his car? Two rolled cars? She needs the money, especially now, this is her main source of income.I think she leads a pretty lonely life, with friends like her make up artist, who she pays. Imho, there are no other friends. Her stories changed often,Kyle said that, but was too chicken shit to say it to her face. That's why she stopped speaking to Kyle. How would we know anything about her (or any of the Housewives) real friends? With Erika, most people didn't even know she had a son until her book came out. As Juls said, the premise of the show pays them to be a small circle of friends. It works because they hide most of their real life close friends to make it seem like they do everything with each other.
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 20, 2021 19:08:30 GMT
They also make it look like someone is friends with a housewife before they enter the show. I've read articles where they talk about how they decide which housewife will be the one to introduce the new one as "their friend." This season Crystal was Kathy's friend Do they hang out? Nah, I don't think so.
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 21, 2021 5:10:17 GMT
Well. That was informative and really helped me piece some things together. So far everything I've heard from Erika has only reiterated how I feel about her.
I enjoyed the moment between Kathy & Kyle as well. Having lost my mom...I get it. It's not something you can easily move on from.
I look forward to watching the next 2....but at the same time I can't believe there are 2 more!!
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Post by acookertv on Oct 21, 2021 10:44:14 GMT
I have been surprised by how much content there has been. Normally when they drag a reunion on for record breaking number of episodes, there's a lot of filler and one big episode at the end.
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Post by stargazer161 on Oct 21, 2021 15:55:29 GMT
Part two of the reunion was lackluster, imo....
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 21, 2021 17:50:25 GMT
Part two of the reunion was lackluster, imo.... I was so bored. I think Erika is a phony liar ..her stories still don't add up, it's obvious she has a new rich guy.. Who cares who Amelia is dating? (..filler..) Andy stifling s yawn when Dorit spoke , summed it up.. This is going on 2 more episodes? Good lord..
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Post by acookertv on Oct 21, 2021 18:11:03 GMT
A lot of what Erika was talking about in this episode was her emotional response to the whole thing. What is there to lie about in that? And how would anyone else know if she was actually feeling something else?
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 21, 2021 18:53:04 GMT
A lot of what Erika was talking about in this episode was her emotional response to the whole thing. What is there to lie about in that? And how would anyone else know if she was actually feeling something else? I have my own thoughts about the phony golddigger, it's fine if you believe her, she thinks she's sharon stone with her dress up to her naval. You believe she gave her paycheck to Tom? Imho I think that's gullible..she's not some trapped wife, looking after two or three children. She got what she wanted and left Tom ..no accident(s) were reported.. I wasn't that moved by Kathy and Kyle, it's obvious their mother did a number on all three girls Crystal doesn't look like she believes Erika, but that's up to her and her own paycheck..
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Post by acookertv on Oct 21, 2021 18:59:42 GMT
Yes, I do think she gave her paycheck to Tom. When she entered into the marriage, she was a 27 year old woman marrying a wealthy powerful 60 year old man. So it makes perfect sense to me that things would be set up where he'd control the money - because he'd proven that he did it well. I don't think that at 27 she was really feeling a lot of confidence to say she wanted to maintain her own account and her own independence. I think she knew if she had, he would have moved on to the next hot blonde who wanted to be his wife. Believe it or not, there are a lot of marriages that function like that, and they are usually sugar daddy type marriages like Tom and Erika.
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 21, 2021 19:09:49 GMT
Yes, I do think she gave her paycheck to Tom. When she entered into the marriage, she was a 27 year old woman marrying a wealthy powerful 60 year old man. So it makes perfect sense to me that things would be set up where he'd control the money - because he'd proven that he did it well. I don't think that at 27 she was really feeling a lot of confidence to say she wanted to maintain her own account and her own independence. I think she knew if she had, he would have moved on to the next hot blonde who wanted to be his wife. Believe it or not, there are a lot of marriages that function like that, and they are usually sugar daddy type marriages like Tom and Erika. Her paycheck from Bravo?
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 21, 2021 19:17:15 GMT
A lot of what Erika was talking about in this episode was her emotional response to the whole thing. What is there to lie about in that? And how would anyone else know if she was actually feeling something else? I have my own thoughts about the phony golddigger, it's fine if you believe her, she thinks she's sharon stone with her dress up to her naval. You believe she gave her paycheck to Tom? Imho I think that's gullible..she's not some trapped wife, looking after two or three children. She got what she wanted and left Tom ..no accident(s) were reported.. I wasn't that moved by Kathy and Kyle, it's obvious their mother did a number on all three girls Crystal doesn't look like she believes Erika, but that's up to her and her own paycheck.. Their mother loved them. And it's very very VERY obvious they loved her.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 21, 2021 19:42:51 GMT
Yes, I do think she gave her paycheck to Tom. When she entered into the marriage, she was a 27 year old woman marrying a wealthy powerful 60 year old man. So it makes perfect sense to me that things would be set up where he'd control the money - because he'd proven that he did it well. I don't think that at 27 she was really feeling a lot of confidence to say she wanted to maintain her own account and her own independence. I think she knew if she had, he would have moved on to the next hot blonde who wanted to be his wife. Believe it or not, there are a lot of marriages that function like that, and they are usually sugar daddy type marriages like Tom and Erika. Her paycheck from Bravo? Yes, her paycheck from Bravo. Hasn't it been claimed she never got paid for anything else? That's how it works in a single account marriage. If one person is managing the finances, that person is going to take all the money, pay all the bills, and run things. That's also why it's a GREAT lesson for women to not agree to a single account marriage. Many many years ago, my grandmother taught all her granddaughters the value of owning things on their own. She went through tough times, including enduring a divorce and remarriage in the 1930s. Hard knocks taught her the risks of being financially tied to a man, and she made she her granddaughters learned from her suffering. But not every woman has the benefit of a grandmother like mine.
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