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Post by FannyMare on Nov 9, 2021 19:57:59 GMT
I used to work for a major big box retailer. When things were slow in the summer time, one of the jobs we'd be given was to wheel around the step cart and clean the domes that housed the security cameras. Many of the domes were empty. From the outside, you could not tell which had cameras and which did not - but there were more domes than cameras. Why? Because the suggestion that you're being watched deters crime. That's one reason for having cameras not hooked up to a monitoring service. But I"m confused - how is there video to share if they were not being monitored? The camera's still record, much like cameras in doorbells, the police often a6s if anyone has something on their cameras..
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Post by acookertv on Nov 9, 2021 19:58:47 GMT
I used to work for a major big box retailer. When things were slow in the summer time, one of the jobs we'd be given was to wheel around the step cart and clean the domes that housed the security cameras. Many of the domes were empty. From the outside, you could not tell which had cameras and which did not - but there were more domes than cameras. Why? Because the suggestion that you're being watched deters crime. That's one reason for having cameras not hooked up to a monitoring service. But I"m confused - how is there video to share if they were not being monitored? The camera's still record, much like cameras in doorbells, the police often a6s if anyone has something on their cameras.. So they are still useful. Guess we have our answer.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 9, 2021 20:02:36 GMT
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Post by acookertv on Nov 9, 2021 20:11:14 GMT
Gavin DeBecker has been saying for a LONG time that celebrities should never do any sort of appearance or photo shoot from their homes for a host of reasons, but Architectural Digest would not have much content if a lot of people listened to that. I found it interesting during the window of time that most celebrity interviews were taking place from their homes during the pandemic to see how some chose angles that showed off way too much of their homes, while others chose a stark plain wall to give nothing.
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Post by amber on Nov 9, 2021 21:54:32 GMT
Acooker, at some point, someone installed a camera security system for this house with recorded videos stored and accessible from the cloud or a hard drive. Installing the cameras is the big expense. Having the system monitored by a security company is the lesser expense.
Given that PK and Dorit were able to turn their videos to the police means cameras record and videos are stored. However, because the robbers were on the premises, able to break a glass door window, and enter the house without the police intervening means (1) PK and Dorit do not or discontinued paying for a service (2) do pay for a service and Dorit didn't bother turning on the security system before going to bed or (3) Dorit turned it on but the security service was somehow defeated.
What I find especially interesting is Dorit and PK were burglarized or robbed in their Beverly Hills home prior to moving to Encino. No one is talking about the system being defeated, so does that mean they didn't bother paying for security monitoring?
Weird.
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Post by acookertv on Nov 9, 2021 21:58:37 GMT
I apologize Amber. I cannot for the life of me figure out why this is worthy of digging into so carefully. Not everyone arms their security system all the time. Sometimes cameras (or the appearance of cameras) are used as a deterrent. There are so many different ways that people approach home security that I don't grasp what the there there is here. I watch Housewives because I'm not interested in Law and Order or true crime type shows. I figure there are detectives who dig into this kind of thing so I don't need to.
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Post by amber on Nov 9, 2021 21:59:02 GMT
FannyMare, the house is on the market. That's how at least one of the robbers knew the layout and what PK and Dorit had.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 9, 2021 22:11:30 GMT
FannyMare, the house is on the market. That's how at least one of the robbers knew the layout and what PK and Dorit had. Ahh I didn't know that.We have an alarm system, as soon as we walk in the house, we turn it on . Otherwise, why have one? . A few people online suspect an inside job.
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Post by acookertv on Nov 9, 2021 22:13:14 GMT
Sounds like we'll have a storyline other than Erika for the next season!
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Post by amber on Nov 9, 2021 22:17:42 GMT
I apologize Amber. I cannot for the life of me figure out why this is worthy of digging into so carefully. Not everyone arms their security system all the time. Sometimes cameras (or the appearance of cameras) are used as a deterrent. There are so many different ways that people approach home security that I don't grasp what the there there is here. I watch Housewives because I'm not interested in Law and Order or true crime type shows. I figure there are detectives who dig into this kind of thing so I don't need to. Just like you drew from your own experience, I'm drawing from mine in that I have an alarm system and I know how it works. I also use to be a realtor and know houses on the market are more often burglarized than houses that aren't and the burglar would be someone who already walked through and knew the layout of the home. I also assume that because PK and Dorit experienced this type of thing in their prior home (which was also listed for sale), she doesn't appear to be the type to be sloppy about not setting an alarm, especially since it was only her and the children in the house.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 9, 2021 22:37:39 GMT
I apologize Amber. I cannot for the life of me figure out why this is worthy of digging into so carefully. Not everyone arms their security system all the time. Sometimes cameras (or the appearance of cameras) are used as a deterrent. There are so many different ways that people approach home security that I don't grasp what the there there is here. I watch Housewives because I'm not interested in Law and Order or true crime type shows. I figure there are detectives who dig into this kind of thing so I don't need to. Just like you drew from your own experience, I'm drawing from mine in that I have an alarm system and I know how it works. I also use to be a realtor and know houses on the market are more often burglarized than houses that aren't and the burglar would be someone who already walked through and knew the layout of the home. I also assume that because PK and Dorit experienced this type of thing in their prior home (which was also listed for sale), she doesn't appear to be the type to be sloppy about not setting an alarm, especially since it was only her and the children in the house. Apparently Dorit was close to the chopping block, now she has a storyline ..albeit after telling us about it in great length, it will be over..I do love her children though.
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Post by JustJuls on Nov 10, 2021 1:18:18 GMT
So we are trying to say that this was planned?
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Post by amber on Nov 10, 2021 1:33:12 GMT
All I read is FM saying Dorit has been handed a storyline.
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Post by pasnowbunny2 on Nov 10, 2021 4:33:14 GMT
Sounds like we'll have a storyline other than Erika for the next season! Takes the heat off of Erika...new storyline for Dorito...new house every year..okay. Glad she & the kiddos are okay. I am getting a security system installed. It's not that I have anything of value or live in a high crime area. It's more that I have a creepy next door neighbor who thinks nothing of walking around my property to snoop. It's just creepy.
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Post by JustJuls on Nov 10, 2021 6:19:14 GMT
Oh goodness, that sounds terrible pasnowbunny2 I'm glad you are getting security!
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Post by acookertv on Nov 10, 2021 11:50:03 GMT
Yikes! That is creepy. I'm sorry you're dealing with that pasnowbunny!
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Post by amber on Nov 10, 2021 15:49:58 GMT
Sounds like we'll have a storyline other than Erika for the next season! Takes the heat off of Erika...new storyline for Dorito...new house every year..okay. Glad she & the kiddos are okay. I am getting a security system installed. It's not that I have anything of value or live in a high crime area. It's more that I have a creepy next door neighbor who thinks nothing of walking around my property to snoop. It's just creepy. pasnowbunny, I think installing an alarm system is a smart thing to do. Even if only Ring cameras and I recommend capturing what is going on in front of your house, not cars driving by, but anyone walking and touching your driveway. You'll be surprised what goes on at night that is captured by cameras because it shocked the heck out of me. Insofar as your neighbor, adding motion sensitive spots to a camera takes will take care of him lurking about.
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Post by amber on Nov 10, 2021 16:27:00 GMT
There is more information coming out about Dorit's home invasion.
First, the robbers knew the home had been empty and were surprised when they found Dorit home that night.
Second, the part where one of the robbers was pointing up and to the left is the robber pointing to the master bedroom location and not a camera.
Third, that robber pointing knew the layout of the house or was had been told by someone else who knew the layout and, also, the robbers believed there was not an operational security system and although they saw the cameras they didn't believed cameras were recording.
Thus, the home invasion was intended to be a burglary directed by someone who had been in the home and gained personal knowledge of the state of the security system being non operational, of which not all of what they believed was not entirely true in that the cameras are still recording. IMO, it's highly likely that person posed as a potential buyer.
Regardless, poor Dorit! I just can't imagine living through that kind of terror.
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Post by momrek06 on Nov 11, 2021 16:51:36 GMT
Momrek, gated means more cameras of the vehicle and vehicle occupants and to me that is worth something. Slider door glass are like auto glass and designed to shatter instead of break to prevent injuries. The tool the robbers used to break the window is the same hand tool some people keep in their car to break a car window if it happens that they land underwater and need to break glass to escape. FannyMare, I agree it strange that the robbers are so calm. We were told the robbers were in the house for 15 minutes, but if to take into account of the time they broke the slider window, it's a total of 25 minutes from when the robbers broke glass to when they made their escape. It's also obvious they were aware there was no security company monitoring the cameras or points of entry. It also seems as if they assumed no one was home. All of this is very strange, indeed. Very Very GOOD POINTS amber. I never gave that a thought about the complex having cameras on all drivers coming and going. And yes my home was built in 2010 so I am certain it must have safety glass on my sliders.
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Post by amber on Nov 11, 2021 17:11:31 GMT
Here is some interesting information that makes sense. It appears that the $600k Erika salary amount was just speculation and she was actually was paid $68k per episode that was not negotiated but happened to be her standard contractual increase. To me, that sounds right, especially when Andy commented to Erika, "I know what you make" ... Thus, at $68,000 per episode for Season 11's 24 episodes, Erika earned $1,632,000. tamaratattles.com/2021/11/10/exclusive-rhobh-tea-including-erika-girardis-actual-salary/
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Post by stargazer161 on Nov 11, 2021 21:00:41 GMT
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Post by JustJuls on Nov 11, 2021 21:29:18 GMT
Oh no. I'm so sorry to hear this.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 13, 2021 6:06:25 GMT
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Post by JustJuls on Nov 13, 2021 6:57:27 GMT
Well that would be a damn shame. I wonder how much she is asking for. I hope Bravo coughs it up.
I also wonder if this is true. Daily Mail is iffy.
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Post by momrek06 on Nov 13, 2021 7:35:52 GMT
Let's all face it, Kathy's "freshmen" season was not fun. All the drama with EJ put a damper on the entire season. Awwwww so many fans will miss Kathy. She was a truly a breathe of fresh air.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 13, 2021 7:37:07 GMT
Well that would be a damn shame. I wonder how much she is asking for. I hope Bravo coughs it up. I also wonder if this is true. Daily Mail is iffy. Tmz saying the same thing( and others) . Fire Rinna and give Kathy the money....
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 13, 2021 7:38:27 GMT
Let's all face it, Kathy's "freshmen" season was not fun. All the drama with EJ put a damper on the entire season. Awwwww so many fans will miss Kathy. She was a truly a breathe of fresh air. She seemed bored during parts of the reunion. Oh well.
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Post by JustJuls on Nov 13, 2021 7:42:44 GMT
I don't even think it's true. But if so it's not because of Erika. Kathy seemed very unbothered by it all. If anything she gave Erika grace. She never questioned her or cared much for that matter.
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Post by newsboi on Nov 13, 2021 11:01:19 GMT
First, she's a "friend of" not a Housewife and second, I don't think that she is funny, just peculiar/odd. She doesn't bring drama and that's what sells and leads to big paychecks.
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Post by acookertv on Nov 13, 2021 12:54:54 GMT
I can understand where there’d be a money dispute. The response to Kathy was fantastic, and I can understand how with so many people saying she was the highlight she’d say she wanted to be compensated for it. I can also understand where Bravo would say there is a max they will pay a “friend of”. AND I can understand where Kathy would not want to give up the privacy or time to be upped to a full time housewife instead of a friend of. The problem is Kathy is easily in a position to take a “take me or leave me” approach. Her life is good with or without the show. And Bravo may know the chances are good she’d still make brief appearances if they don’t sign her since she is Kyle’s sister. So it’s too easy for both parties to hold out. But I thought they were already filming?
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