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Post by amber on Mar 4, 2023 5:57:51 GMT
It's true. I read about it this afternoon and was not surprised.
Tom Sandoval cheated on Kristen Doute with Ariana Madix. We learned this after Jax admitted Kristen cheated on Tom with him. Kristen was so bitter about her break up with Tom that she stalked his comings and goings and learned Tom cheated on Ariana with at least one other girl in Florida and outed him. Ariana believed Tom didn't cheat. Of course, he cheated!
I think Ariana is damaged goods, and I suspect she hasn't been faithful to Tom, either.
This has been one messy season! Totally old-school VPR!
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 4, 2023 6:46:02 GMT
Saw a blurb on TMZ, (sorry not sure how to add a link) that Ariana and Tom are over. Apparently Tom cheated on Ariana with Raquel. Might just be for ratings but if true, what a putz. I never was a fan of Tom, I always thought he was a smarter Jax. But still a Jax if that makes sense. What a fool, they had a pretty good life. I didn't mind Tom, he kept things interesting, Raquel needs to go careful, she'll be making a name for herself , and not in a good way. I admit, I thought Tom and Ariana had an open relationship, I guess not I couldn't handle watching Jax, and Britney, after awhile, became a bit too much like him. Beau and Stassi are having another baby,..he was so nice.
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Post by amber on Mar 5, 2023 21:42:28 GMT
LVP will be on next Wednesday's WWHL with Andy to talk about the children.
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Post by Amy Lee on Mar 5, 2023 22:21:53 GMT
Saw a blurb on TMZ, (sorry not sure how to add a link) that Ariana and Tom are over. Apparently Tom cheated on Ariana with Raquel. Might just be for ratings but if true, what a putz. I never was a fan of Tom, I always thought he was a smarter Jax. But still a Jax if that makes sense. I've been in the VPR Reddit for days because of this. It's wild that this is actually true.
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Post by amber on Mar 6, 2023 1:03:11 GMT
I just took a look at Reddit. Oh my goodness, the selective outrage coming from both cast members and fans! Speaking of Selective Outrage, those with Netflix should log in to watch Chris Rock's stand-up comedy special. It's outstanding! (I love the return of comedy! Finally!)
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Post by Imperfect1 on Mar 6, 2023 3:54:53 GMT
Saw a blurb on TMZ, (sorry not sure how to add a link) that Ariana and Tom are over. Apparently Tom cheated on Ariana with Raquel. Might just be for ratings but if true, what a putz. I never was a fan of Tom, I always thought he was a smarter Jax. But still a Jax if that makes sense. Tsk, tsk, tsk! Tom, Tom, James, and Jax. . . they just can't keep it in their pants! And Raquel is no better. In fact, in some ways she's worse because in addition to the fact that she's turning into quite a little ho, she has hurt her [former] 'friends' soooo much!!!
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Post by amber on Mar 6, 2023 4:17:53 GMT
Raquel is worst than who? Is there a cast member that hasn't cheated? I can't think of one. Ariana's relationship with Tom is ending exactly how it started. It is what it is.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 6, 2023 5:54:47 GMT
Raquel is worst than who? Is there a cast member that hasn't cheated? I can't think of one. Ariana's relationship with Tom is ending exactly how it started. It is what it is. Tom and Ariana, reminded me of roommates. I saw photos that Raquel posted, and she was outside with Schwartz all cuddly. Maybe that was to upset Katie ? There are calls to boycott the new restaurant, and I'm thinking why, why would you?
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Post by amber on Mar 6, 2023 7:50:21 GMT
I can't remember if I was once an Ariana fan or not. I think I was, but she lost luster with me.
Lala is another one I struggle to remember liking her.
The boycott of the restaurants is ridiculous. Small-minded troublemakers obliviated Schwartz and Sandy's Yelp page and attacked TomTom's page, too. It reminds me of when overly fanatic Bachelor fans organized to complain to Molly Malaney's employer, Kohls, hoping to have her fired (after Jason Mesnick dumped Melissa Rycroft and asked Molly for a second chance).
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Post by Amy Lee on Mar 6, 2023 20:30:36 GMT
Saw a blurb on TMZ, (sorry not sure how to add a link) that Ariana and Tom are over. Apparently Tom cheated on Ariana with Raquel. Might just be for ratings but if true, what a putz. I never was a fan of Tom, I always thought he was a smarter Jax. But still a Jax if that makes sense. Tsk, tsk, tsk! Tom, Tom, James, and Jax. . . they just can't keep it in their pants! And Raquel is no better. In fact, in some ways she's worse because in addition to the fact that she's turning into quite a little ho, she has hurt her [former] 'friends' soooo much!!! It's the hiding in plain sight for me. In retrospect, I think that the whole Schwartz flirtation was conjured up to cover up what was really happening. Their high school necklaces are corny as hell. I don't care about the rest of the season. let's go straight to the reunion. Also, apparently her name is really Rachel. It fits with the rest of the phony persona.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 6, 2023 22:37:17 GMT
Tsk, tsk, tsk! Tom, Tom, James, and Jax. . . they just can't keep it in their pants! And Raquel is no better. In fact, in some ways she's worse because in addition to the fact that she's turning into quite a little ho, she has hurt her [former] 'friends' soooo much!!! It's the hiding in plain sight for me. In retrospect, I think that the whole Schwartz flirtation was conjured up to cover up what was really happening. Their high school necklaces are corny as hell. I don't care about the rest of the season. let's go straight to the reunion. Also, apparently her name is really Rachel. It fits with the rest of the phony persona.
I want to see this all play out, all of it. A Julia was mentioned on Twitter, as Rachel does her apology tour, not sure who that is.
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Post by Amy Lee on Mar 7, 2023 3:09:22 GMT
It's the hiding in plain sight for me. In retrospect, I think that the whole Schwartz flirtation was conjured up to cover up what was really happening. Their high school necklaces are corny as hell. I don't care about the rest of the season. let's go straight to the reunion. Also, apparently her name is really Rachel. It fits with the rest of the phony persona.
I want to see this all play out, all of it. A Julia was mentioned on Twitter, as Rachel does her apology tour, not sure who that is. Given the source, Julia is not currently in play as the person releasing the information does things for attention.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 7, 2023 6:18:18 GMT
Julia was supposed to have been with Sandoval, after Rachel, or the same time. That was the rumor.
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Post by amber on Mar 7, 2023 18:45:02 GMT
UPDATE
Raquel didn't send Tom Sanderval a video. Instead, he recorded a facetime with her without her permission. California is a two-party consent (to record) state, and Raquel hired an attorney that has sent letters to stop the dissemination.
The brouhaha didn't begin with Raquel texting Tom. Tom gave his phone to Ariana to record his concert, and she searched his phone and stumbled upon their extensive text messages. Elsewhere on the phone, she discovered the recorded facetime.
There must be more to this story concerning Ariana. She knew something was going on for why else would she search Tom's text messges?
Also, Kristen is returning to VPR. I like this part. I'd like to see all the OGs return, because introducing new people (not connected by intimate realtionships) has never worked.
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Post by Amy Lee on Mar 7, 2023 19:54:02 GMT
I don't think Rachel will stay past this season. Sandoval? He's not going anywhere, I don't think.
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Post by amber on Mar 7, 2023 20:31:33 GMT
I think Raquel will remain a part of VPR, just like Ariana magically began training at SUR BEFORE her affair began with Sandoval while he was still with Kristen and before the Jax end-of-season confessional. Heck, as I recall, fans assumed Jax was out after that season. But was he? No. Regardless, production knew what was really happening between Sandoval and Ariana; thus, Ariana began working at SUR, and Kristen hadn't a clue. After that affair surfaced, I didn't expect Ariana or, later, James to become a part of the show other than the occasional cameo. Look what happened there. Raquel started with cameos and eventually became a cast member. Remember, in the early seasons, Schwartz only did cameos.
Honestly, I don't understand the outrage --- and, to repeat, the selective outrage. This show began how it is right now with the cheating affairs. That's why I would love the old cast members canceled because that's where the country was then, hopefully not now, return.
EDITED TO ADD. Remember Raquel wasn't returning to VPR after last season ... but she came back ...
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 9, 2023 7:50:46 GMT
I was enjoying this season, and now I'm feeling strange watching it. I loved Lisa's restaurant, beautiful, and she looks fabulous. I loved her grandson, cute baby! . Katies friend is very intuitive, everyone treating Raquel like a child, when she isn't. Also, what she said about Lala and her ego. I think Oliver liked Raquel better, (no need to be be bitter Lala..)
Oh Ariana and her dog, I was in tears with her, our guy is going to be 15 soon, I know just how she feels.🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾 I wanted to hug her.
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Post by amber on Mar 10, 2023 19:12:54 GMT
Raquel is something else, isn't she? The thing is, the same can be said about nearly all the other cast members. I had lunch at SUR back in November. Or was it December? I am trying to recall another nearby storefront vacant. (I should, given how many times I drove around the block looking for parking!)
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Post by Punkin on Mar 11, 2023 0:05:36 GMT
Rachel/Raquel graduated the same year as my granddaughter from Sonoma State Univ. They weren't friends, though I think their Sororities interacted at times, so she knew who Rachel was. I'll have to ask her what she thinks of all of this.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 11, 2023 20:07:00 GMT
Rachel/Raquel graduated the same year as my granddaughter from Sonoma State Univ. They weren't friends, though I think their Sororities interacted at times, so she knew who Rachel was. I'll have to ask her what she thinks of all of this. Raquel is claiming , Scheana allegedly gave her a black eye. Wth?
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Post by amber on Mar 11, 2023 22:45:55 GMT
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 11, 2023 23:02:08 GMT
It's very messy, it doesn't really say what lead up to it. One of them wont be in the room, come reunion time, just by video. Maybe Scheana gave Heather her black eye (RHSLC) too soon? ..lol
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Post by Realitychick on Mar 12, 2023 1:25:40 GMT
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Post by Imperfect1 on Mar 12, 2023 2:24:34 GMT
I just watched this week's episode, and wow, Raquel is a b*tchy little minx, and so much more aggressive than I thought!!!! Early in the episode she thought making out with Schwartz was funny (totally ignoring how much it was hurting Katie) and did you guys see how she went after Oliver on the dance floor!!!! As Lisa Vanderpump said (on WWHL this week), Raquel had no interest in Oliver until Lala expressed interest in him, and wham! Raquel went after him like a hawk! (She got him too!!!) PS Apparently a lot of fans are asking if Raquel and Tom Sandoval are in a serious relationship now. I don't think so, if her making out with Oliver on the dance floor is any indication!
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Post by amber on Mar 12, 2023 2:56:54 GMT
Raquel seems to become a different girl when overserved. That was Lala's journey, and I still don't care much for Lala. I guess we'll have to see how this plays out.
As much as I like Scheana, and I do, my gut tells me she had something to do with Raquel's facial injuries.
The crew seems to be standing in solidarity against Raquel and Sanderval. Someone will eventually buckle. Someone always does.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 12, 2023 6:16:21 GMT
I just watched this week's episode, and wow, Raquel is a b*tchy little minx, and so much more aggressive than I thought!!!! Early in the episode she thought making out with Schwartz was funny (totally ignoring how much it was hurting Katie) and did you guys see how she went after Oliver on the dance floor!!!! As Lisa Vanderpump said (on WWHL this week), Raquel had no interest in Oliver until Lala expressed interest in him, and wham! Raquel went after him like a hawk! (She got him too!!!) PS Apparently a lot of fans are asking if Raquel and Tom Sandoval are in a serious relationship now. I don't think so, if her making out with Oliver on the dance floor is any indication! Raquel is way different than I thought. I don't think James had an easy time being with her. Jmho.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Mar 12, 2023 14:24:03 GMT
I just watched this week's episode, and wow, Raquel is a b*tchy little minx, and so much more aggressive than I thought!!!! Early in the episode she thought making out with Schwartz was funny (totally ignoring how much it was hurting Katie) and did you guys see how she went after Oliver on the dance floor!!!! As Lisa Vanderpump said (on WWHL this week), Raquel had no interest in Oliver until Lala expressed interest in him, and wham! Raquel went after him like a hawk! (She got him too!!!) PS Apparently a lot of fans are asking if Raquel and Tom Sandoval are in a serious relationship now. I don't think so, if her making out with Oliver on the dance floor is any indication! Raquel is way different than I thought. I don't think James had an easy time being with her. Jmho. I agree, Raquel seemed VERY different early on, when we first met her. To me, she seemed very sweet, simple, kind of an air-head, and totally harmless. Now I think she's actually the opposite of all those things! I don't know what her relationship with James was like, cause I think he is a bit of a nightmare, and he seemed to be very much the dominant one in their relationship. Now that Raquel has moved on to Sandoval, seeing as they're both very strong characters, if they have an actual relationship, it will be 'interesting' to see what they're like as a couple, out in the open.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 12, 2023 19:44:29 GMT
Raquel is way different than I thought. I don't think James had an easy time being with her. Jmho. I agree, Raquel seemed VERY different early on, when we first met her. To me, she seemed very sweet, simple, kind of an air-head, and totally harmless. Now I think she's actually the opposite of all those things! I don't know what her relationship with James was like, cause I think he is a bit of a nightmare, and he seemed to be very much the dominant one in their relationship. Now that Raquel has moved on to Sandoval, seeing as they're both very strong characters, if they have an actual relationship, it will be 'interesting' to see what they're like as a couple, out in the open. I like James, I always have. I think he gave up a lot to be with Raquel,he's terribly insecure though, and yes, he's probably a bit of a nightmare, you're right. Raquel seems very needy, good luck Tom!
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Post by Imperfect1 on Mar 12, 2023 22:17:55 GMT
In spite of all this talk about Raquel, I'm really way more concerned for Ariana. I feel so bad for her. She and Sandoval seemed to be such a wonderful couple. They seemed to be so well suited for each other, and so good together. And Ariana has always seemed to have such faith in Sandoval, and she was probably very trusting of him as well. And now he's broken her heart and completely betrayed her. How very sad. (Of course she'll be fine eventually, but she'll probably have a long, painful road to get to that point!)
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 12, 2023 22:30:43 GMT
In spite of all this talk about Raquel, I'm really way more concerned for Ariana. I feel so bad for her. She and Sandoval seemed to be such a wonderful couple. They seemed to be so well suited for each other, and so good together. And Ariana has always seemed to have such faith in Sandoval, and she was probably very trusting of him as well. And now he's broken her heart and completely betrayed her. How very sad. (Of course she'll be fine eventually, but she'll probably have a long, painful road to get to that point!) It took Ariana a very long time to learn to trust, now this happens. Jax is all over this, there's not much he can say about cheating, that I want to hear. I can't stand him.
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