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Post by acookertv on Oct 30, 2019 16:32:32 GMT
I miss Caroline's direct way of speaking and her realness.
As for Joe and Teresa's girls - I think there are a lot of kids who grow up with crappy self absorbed parents who turn out to be great and functioning adults. When it happens, I think that a large part of the success comes from other adults in those kids lives who see what is happening and take them under their wings. The good news for these girls is that with so much of their parents behavior in the public eye, there are teachers, friends parents, and other relatives who know what they are up against and can see the need to step in. It would not surprise me at all if Joe and Melissa are among the family members who do more to look out for them than what we see on camera ... and if that does happen it shows that they care enough about the kids to not put it all out there to help their images. It also would not surprise me if each of them has other adults who can see they are not getting guidance and confidence from their parents, and need it so they give it. If they have those kinds of adults in their lives, I think they can grow into great women despite their parents.
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Post by amber on Oct 30, 2019 16:46:30 GMT
Hmmm...Joe had a lot of nasty things to say about ICE when it had to do with him but still found time to talk crap about undocumented (and non-White) immigrants. At least they don't steal money and commit fraud, Joe. I'm glad this racist garbage bag got deported. Andy even had to remind Joe that he was a criminal. Joe seemed relaxed but still mean. Teresa seemed like the marriage was already over. I can't believe she accuse Carolin Manzo of calling the feds on her and Joe. Bravo and the couple are milking this. I don't know when the special will air that follows Teresa to Italy to see Joe. Was Joe mean when he said Teresa needs to find a man with a lot of money? Nope, that's being honest. Years ago, Caroline Manzo said the reason Joe got in trouble was for trying to meet Teresa insatiable need for money and expensive things that Joe wasn't able to provide her though legal and ethical means. IMO, Caroline was right when she said Joe is a good person who only did bad things only to make his wife happy. IMO, her thoughts hit the nail on the head and further illustrated for Joe didn't just screw over big banks and government, he swindled personal and business purveyors and even his long time business partner so Teresa could be televised living a life the family could never afford. (I'm going to repeat this paragraph and elaborate more in my next post, for this is what I consider an important observation.) From watching the interview, I think their marriage is well over for the both of them and it's high time for Teresa to find her next victim. I haven't watched RHONJ since Teresa imprisoned and I doubt I will unless the Caroline Manzo returns, which I doubt will ever happen. |
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Post by acookertv on Oct 30, 2019 17:03:12 GMT
Caroline makes a lot of observations that I think are very astute, but I don't know that I agree with her on the whole "Joe is a good guy who cheated for money because Teresa wants so much". I don't think it can be forgotten that Caroline has disliked Teresa for a long time, and that is going to affect her opinion. Both Joe and Teresa are narcissistic people, which means both of them are going to do what they please, rules be damned.
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Post by betty80 on Oct 30, 2019 17:08:33 GMT
Andy even had to remind Joe that he was a criminal. Joe seemed relaxed but still mean. Teresa seemed like the marriage was already over. I can't believe she accuse Carolin Manzo of calling the feds on her and Joe. Bravo and the couple are milking this. I don't know when the special will air that follows Teresa to Italy to see Joe. Years ago, Caroline Manzo said the reason Joe got in trouble was for trying to meet Teresa insatiable need for money and expensive things that Joe wasn't able to provide her though legal and ethical means. IMO, Caroline was right when she said Joe is a good person who only did bad things only to make his wife happy. IMO, her thoughts hit the nail on the head and further illustrated for Joe didn't just screw over big banks and government, he swindled personal and business purveyors and even his long time business partner so Teresa could be televised living a life the family could never afford. (I'm going to repeat this paragraph and elaborate more in my next post, for this is what I consider an important observation.) From watching the interview, I think their marriage is well over for the both of them and it's high time for Teresa to find her next victim. I haven't watched RHONJ since Teresa imprisoned and I doubt I will unless the Caroline Manzo returns, which I doubt will ever happen. I never mentioned that specific example. I gave my overall impression of his behavior in the interview. I thought he was dismissive of her, as he's always been. He didn't seem to really care. I find that mean. |
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Post by amber on Oct 30, 2019 17:27:00 GMT
Joe and Teresa will never change.
During the WWHL special with Andy, Joe made a remark to Andy that implied that Andy, personally, and the network benefited greatly by Joe and Teresa's efforts and, also, their demise. Teresa sat still at this point and didn't counter or even comment.
Also during the special, Teresa repeated her belief that her old co-star, Caroline Manzo, might have had something to do with their legal issues by suggesting Caroline turned them in to the feds.
How interesting it is that after all these years Joe and Teresa remain lockstep on this one particular issue, that they have been victimized by giving it their all where others --- and not them --- have directly benefited from their efforts. What amazes me more is that these two ignorant, brain dead criminals actually believe what they say and neither recognize what horrible, despicable things they have done to others and the collateral damages they cause.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Nov 3, 2019 1:40:41 GMT
Was Joe mean when he said Teresa needs to find a man with a lot of money? Nope, that's being honest. Years ago, Caroline Manzo said the reason Joe got in trouble was for trying to meet Teresa insatiable need for money and expensive things that Joe wasn't able to provide her though legal and ethical means. IMO, Caroline was right when she said Joe is a good person who only did bad things only to make his wife happy. IMO, her thoughts hit the nail on the head and further illustrated for Joe didn't just screw over big banks and government, he swindled personal and business purveyors and even his long time business partner so Teresa could be televised living a life the family could never afford. . . . I haven't watched RHONJ since Teresa imprisoned and I doubt I will unless the Caroline Manzo returns, which I doubt will ever happen. I always liked and enjoyed Caroline and her whole family, and to me, they were all the real heart(s) of the show. Teresa was just an annoying side-show. Now that she's the annoying star of the show, the show has become superficial, stupid and tedious. I still watch it occasionally, but probably only out of feelings of nostalgia. Most others watch it, I think, cause they like the fighting. Personally, I preferred it when the families' lives were the main part of the show, instead of the constant fighting that is the continual center of the storylines, the way it is now. |
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Post by prism on Nov 4, 2019 22:40:05 GMT
It would be hard to find two more delusional pieces of crap than the Giudice slime. They’re criminals, they’re cheaters, liars, felons, and hideous human beings.
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Post by sweetmermaid1 on Nov 5, 2019 5:47:58 GMT
Joe now has an Instagram. Teresa's father is now visiting him along with Joe's sister and friends from home. Supposedly Teresa and the girls are flying out this week. I kinda like Joe's Instagram and have started following him.....I've never followed Teresa.
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Post by JustJuls on Nov 7, 2019 19:03:24 GMT
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 7, 2019 19:19:41 GMT
They were wrong to show Theresa and Joe's interview, before the season started. It's obvious they are done with one another. I think they both lie and they both cheat.jmho
I'm glad Jackie never backs down from Theresa , it really bugs her, Melissa is friends with Jackie
Jennifer's husband is so creepy, he just gives me a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach. He sure lights up when Melissa walks in the room though..
As for Jennifer, she's so addicted to surgery, in a few years, she wont look anything like herself. She's the same personality, she can't keep it together, at her husband swishy party.. lol. Yelling at Jackie. Jennifer, you can buy a pair of breast, get rid of back fat, but class, that's something you cannot buy, ever.
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Post by JustJuls on Nov 7, 2019 19:30:18 GMT
I think that Joe cheated while they were married and living together. I think that Theresa has moved on now...cheating yes. But it is a tad different. I think it's obvious to her Gia though...who imo, has a great head on her shoulders. Theresa just needs to be honest with her. It will be better for the girls in the long run.
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Post by acookertv on Nov 7, 2019 19:32:18 GMT
I think that often times in RH history, they will show the end of a relationship in the beginning so that the season plays more interesting as a "how did we get here". That's what I think they did with the Joe and Teresa interview. They've also done it when they showed the brawl at the christening for Joe and Melissa's son at the start of a RHNJ season, then went back in time to show how they got there. They did it on RHBH last season where they showed Lisa kicking Kyle out of her house and then went backwards a few months. By doing that, they're more effective in showing the contrast from "we're working on this and we love you" to such a dramatic change.
As soon as Joe was free to talk, people were going to want to hear from them, and if Bravo didn't do the interview someone else would have. They effectively used it to promote the new season, and now will show how they went from not knowing what would happen to being done with each other.
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Post by JustJuls on Nov 7, 2019 20:08:25 GMT
Right. We also know in real time what is going on. So it would be silly to "fake it"
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 7, 2019 20:14:27 GMT
I think that Joe cheated while they were married and living together. I think that Theresa has moved on now...cheating yes. But it is a tad different. I think it's obvious to her Gia though...who imo, has a great head on her shoulders. Theresa just needs to be honest with her. It will be better for the girls in the long run. Gia is smart. I don't see smart in either of her parents( sorry) but she's so level headed. Her sister, Milania ,is just like Joe, frightenly so. She has all the bad things Joe showed us. |
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 7, 2019 20:16:09 GMT
I think that often times in RH history, they will show the end of a relationship in the beginning so that the season plays more interesting as a "how did we get here". That's what I think they did with the Joe and Teresa interview. They've also done it when they showed the brawl at the christening for Joe and Melissa's son at the start of a RHNJ season, then went back in time to show how they got there. They did it on RHBH last season where they showed Lisa kicking Kyle out of her house and then went backwards a few months. By doing that, they're more effective in showing the contrast from "we're working on this and we love you" to such a dramatic change. As soon as Joe was free to talk, people were going to want to hear from them, and if Bravo didn't do the interview someone else would have. They effectively used it to promote the new season, and now will show how they went from not knowing what would happen to being done with each other. I'm hoping it doesn't take up the whole season, because the two of them, are simply not that interesting |
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Post by stargazer161 on Nov 7, 2019 20:53:54 GMT
Jennifer is being the mean girl already..she is so pretentious and her husband gives me gay vibes.
Teresa is a dingbat, per usual, demanding her SIL to defend her all the time even though she's the wrong one, 99.9% of the time..!
I'm wondering who pulls Margaret's hair later in the season....hmmm!!
Blah to Dolores and her stupid living arrangement with her ex husband...her storyline is so damn boring.
Gia needs to get it that her dad is not returning to the U.S.
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Post by JustJuls on Nov 7, 2019 21:08:59 GMT
I thought Melissa did a really good job of sticking up for Teresa and putting a stop to the conversation that was happening. And yet it's STILL not good enough for Teresa.  |
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Post by stargazer161 on Nov 7, 2019 21:48:55 GMT
I want to slap her sometimes, lol..
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 7, 2019 21:50:42 GMT
I thought Melissa did a really good job of sticking up for Teresa and putting a stop to the conversation that was happening. And yet it's STILL not good enough for Teresa. It never will be, I think being her sister in law, means walking on eggshells most of the time. |
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Post by JustJuls on Nov 14, 2019 20:05:50 GMT
Hahaha! I love that Jennifer brought up "Beverly" to Danielle. Can we please be done with her now? Every scene she is in is cringe worthy. Teresa is so hypocritical. "Don't call her a whore...that's below the belt." ...cut to Teresa calling Danielle a whore This franchise is by far the messiest. |
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Post by stargazer161 on Nov 14, 2019 21:17:07 GMT
I watched the most recent episode here at work today on my phone....shhhhhh! Lol..
Love how quickly Margaret comes back with the insults..
Teresa, the dingbat, is an idiot to be friends with Danielle. Juls-you mean prostitution whore..lmao!
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Post by stargazer161 on Nov 14, 2019 21:20:23 GMT
Teresa's poor kids..yes they miss their dad badly but they act like he's an innocent person in all this. The law is the law especially when you do something illegal...many people get deported on a daily basis. He is no one special nor does he deserve special treatment because he's been on TV.
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Post by stargazer161 on Nov 14, 2019 21:21:41 GMT
Melissa calling Teresa and Danielle Dumb & Dumber...made me crack up!
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 14, 2019 23:27:09 GMT
Teresa and Danielle,make a good couple. Man, Teresa is dim They are like oil and vinegar.  I love Melissa dress in the opening, she looks great. Enough with Joe, she's using the kids, it's pitiful. |
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Post by betty80 on Nov 15, 2019 15:21:52 GMT
Melissa calling Teresa and Danielle Dumb & Dumber...made me crack up! Teresa will pounce on that during the reunion if Andy brings it up. Jennifer's commentary was funny. Why did Teresa and Danielle win when they really came in second? |
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Post by JustJuls on Nov 15, 2019 19:13:22 GMT
Because it was a day for Teresa ....so therefore her ass is kissed  |
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Post by prism on Nov 17, 2019 2:57:12 GMT
The lack of parenting of the Giudice children is evident - wondering how the eldest Gia escaped the worst of having delusional felons for parents.
Teresa Giudice is positively grotesque- looks, speech, actions, attitudes. Grotesque.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 17, 2019 6:05:40 GMT
The lack of parenting of the Giudice children is evident - wondering how the eldest Gia escaped the worst of having delusional felons for parents. Teresa Giudice is positively grotesque- looks, speech, actions, attitudes. Grotesque. Gia should of handed the phone to her sisters, instead of taking up all the time, or here's an idea, why didn't someone say, put it on speaker. I agree with you, about Teresa. |
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Post by woodiedog on Nov 17, 2019 17:41:58 GMT
I have no sympathy for the Gudice family. The pity party about him being in ice custody was ridiculous. Sure the girls miss him. Did anyone sit down with the girls and explain how he’s paying for years of illegal activities? Might be a lesson in there.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 17, 2019 19:14:19 GMT
I have no sympathy for the Gudice family. The pity party about him being in ice custody was ridiculous. Sure the girls miss him. Did anyone sit down with the girls and explain how he’s paying for years of illegal activities? Might be a lesson in there. I think Gia and Miliania know, but maybe it's just me, the girls seem much closer to their father. No matter what he did, it won't ruin the love they obviously have for him... |
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