7/22 The Bachelorette 15: Episode 11 (Men Tell All)

Oh my word, talk about bull- headed! Had to chuckle when Hannah moved the podium and roses a few feet up from Luke.

But a bit scary, too. When he said "listen" to Hannah, I got chills. That man is scary!

WTF we have to find out who she gets rid of next week?? 🤬

So who else did she send home? They never had the rose ceremony. She is supposed to be down to two guys now!

We have to wait until next week to find out. They never continued with the rose ceremony and all 3 guys remain.

Oh no, this whole thing is going to be about Luke! She finally lets him go, but TPTB won't. The MTA is all about him. They're not even going to show us the FRC?!

Tuning in 30 minutes late. Did I miss the preview of next week when Luke shows up again to ruin the rose ceremony? From the posts above, sounds like I missed it

Yeah, it's worth watching.

Poor Hannah, the stupid show let the guy back on, and you could tell she just wanted to walk off but probably knew she couldn't, because of her contract or whatever. Chris Harrison walks in, but at first just stands there and does absolutely nothing. The he asks what she wants. What do you think she wants??? A friend of mine messaged me that she should've called for security! I replied, but they're the ones who let him in there. And maybe not only "let" him, but prompted him to go back in there. For ratings. So yeah, he's a jerk and does nothing to help himself, but the show is complicit in this whole thing too. Someone gave him a ring and sent him into the rose ceremony! They were messing with her, and with Luke too, since he clearly doesn't know how these shows operate.

But I love how she moved the podium. That was awesome!! And I loved the guys coming to back her up, except Peter didn't really do much, lol! The other two were the "muscle" getting in the way of Luke and trying to kick him out. 

I can't stand how Luke says something, and then when he's questioned about it, he goes back on it and tries to say he was misunderstood. He pauses so long to really think about what he's going to say, but then it comes out wrong anyway and he takes it back somehow. He's also very demeaning, when he says "how can I make this clear to you?" So, just say what you mean, Luke, and stick by it! Gosh. 

John Paul Jones — Yay!

Hannah's apology was cute, saying sorry for her role in all the time Luke got on the show this season. And that it's not been renewed!

As someone who felt sorry for Luke & the treatment he got from the other guys, and for the treatment he's gotten from the public, I had no pity for him at all showing up at the Rose Ceremony after being sent home so definitively. Even if there was a ton of Producer interference, he had to have been pretty darned dense not to have gotten the message. Hannah got downright mean & cruel in the way she sent him home. That girl wasn't fooling around. Take the hint, Luke. It couldn't have been any clearer. I'm glad he finally left. I did find it funny the way Hannah grabbed the Rose Podium & carried it over closer to where the other 3 guys were.

Then came TMTA. I only watched a portion of it before I got sick of the same old, same old.
First off, Luke looks WAAAAAYYY better clean shaven. I actually found him handsome tonight. At least his appearance. In a way I found it a bit refreshing that he didn't let Chris Harrison make him apologize for being himself, but he's still delusional. He really didn't belong on this show.
As to the other guys, it's apparent they were still playing the Pick On Luke game. For cryin' out loud, he's not a threat to you anymore. It's over. He didn't "win". Let it go.  So what if you don't see eye to eye? You don't have to live with the guy anymore. Why the need to keep putting him down & insulting him. A bunch of small minded bullies. That's what they are. 
You know the type: They think they can build themselves up by tearing someone else down. I hate that type.

As for Mike, I hope he doesn't become The Bachelor. I want a nice guy, not a bully who can't let go.

Somewhere while the guys were continuing to berate Luke, I quit watching. I never saw Hannah or whatever she had to say or do.
I tuned back in at the very end for the extremely uninformative Previews of next week. What a snore.
I also watched the BIP Previews. Now that looks like a fun watch.

Well that was cringeworthy.

I'm not sure if Luke's pauses were so he could speak with the Lord or if something else was going on there, but he clearly should not have been asked to come, nor should he have been casted. He is struggling; I hope to gosh his story doesn't end like Gia's.

I grew to like Garrett, Matteo, Luke P and Mike more while Conner and Devin dug themselves in to holes. Grant said something but I can't recall what it was now. I either really liked it or really didn't!

In the grand scheme of things Hannah had an opportunity to make light of an important issue, as she said, and she did, but I thought she got a little full of herself and took it too far. I completely understood her explanation as to how she clung to his devotion to her right from the beginning but apologizing for all the drama felt hypocritical when she was sitting there continuing the drama.

She also brought light to another issue that I felt was equally important, and that was how some people weaponize their religion. Hard to say if that was Luke's intent because of the way reality programs are cut and pieced, but nevertheless, it was her takeaway.

Not sure how I want this all to end. The preview of her pouting on the ground didn't demonstrate to me someone who was ready to be engaged.

I wonder if Luke was clean-shaven to make him look more pure and innocent. That facial hair did make him appear more sinister. This whole Luke fiasco was 1/3 Luke and 2/3 production. We not only had to endure him all season, getting booted off twice, and twice returning ... which never would have happened unless facilitated by producers, especially him coming back at the FRC and just placing himself in the lineup which producers knew would anger Hannah and cause a scene, but we have to see him again for nearly two more hours. So even when she clearly booted him off at the end, here he is again invited back as the focus of just about all of the MTA. Chris H could have just said that it;s obvious everyone has had enough of Luke P, so they would not devote any more time to him, and could have talked about other things, only there were no other things to talk about because they made the whole season about Luke. Luke did contribute to that by his attitude, but producers didn't have to include so much of him. They edit the show, so they're responsible for all his air time. They knew he was ratings gold, and although I don't feel sorry for him, he was used for every minute he was worth. Hannah's apology at the end was appreciated, but it wasn't she who brought him back twice and featured him ad nauseum last night. I don't like how they let him pause for so long so many times. It's a TV show, not a private therapy session. He should not have been allowed to create so much dead air.