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Post by Cuddles on Jul 31, 2019 16:23:31 GMT
This conversation cracks me up because typically what is being said about this program is it's too soon for a person to get engaged when they were just deeply interested in two (or more) different people, but now it's too late for them to have a change of heart or see things more clearly?
I'm in the happy-medium range. With the intensity of this show, I can fully understand having feelings for more than one person. It's really not fair that they are forced on a particular day to make their final decision. And she (especially) needed leeway given Luke P had robbed so much of her emotional energy.
Edit: Maybe cracks me up is not accurate, more like intrigues me I suppose.
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Post by FannyMare on Jul 31, 2019 17:50:25 GMT
My intuition tells me Tyler still loves Hannah but he'll be apprehensive for awhile, understandably. The reason I believe that is because of his most heartfelt comment last night - the reason he's been able to deal with everything is because he thought she was in good hands. I think he is going to be her rock just as he was a rock for his father, and from there I think their love will continue to blossom. The one thing about Tyler, he's been out of that bachelor bubble. So it remains to be seen , how he takes things with Hannah.
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Jul 31, 2019 17:51:44 GMT
No, I would find it much more likely that they would pick Tyler for the Bachelor, have him get to the final five or six girls where he's really starting to fall for them, then bring back Hannah as an alternative. I thought the audience and Chris Harrison were hugely influential in what happened with Hannah and Tyler at the end of the show. They seemed a bit over-the-top at times. Ha! I like that idea. Make her work to win him this time! (But they won't do it.) He's being very kind to agree to go out with her after she told him she loved someone else, and if Jed hadn't turned out to be a liar, she would still be with him. In other words, she didn't break up with him because she realized she loved Tyler more or even still had feelings for him. She breaks up with Jed, and suddenly she's talking about how she still has feelings for Tyler, now that she's alone? He deserves better. She's talking about how this experience has made her a strong, confident woman, but she described herself that way from the beginning. She should give herself some time to get her head on straight and be sure she's not pursuing Tyler (or anyone else) out of neediness or insecurity because that's not fair to him. I fully believe Chris H and production set that all up by bringing Tyler out after the segment with Jed, as if they were giving her a consolation prize, and I don't like seeing Tyler used that way, although they probably discussed it with him in advance, and he was kind enough to agree. Exactly what I question. He didn't have to agree to go out with her. MANY guys would have absolutely turned her down then and there. Her first pick was Jed. I agree she'd still be with him, had she not known the truth about his past. Now that she ends up without either guys, she wants to go out with second place Tyler. Good luck to them, I say..will something come of their friendship? Who knows. I think off the set Tyler will get to know her better, and perhaps he will understand why he was rejected at the final ceremony (the fact she cared for Jed more). Time will convince me if she and Tyler are compatible.
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Post by babbred on Jul 31, 2019 17:53:55 GMT
Great observations, everyone! Especially the one about Tyler just being a gentleman. You know when the Bette hands a guy a rose, he often says "Of course!" or "Absolutely!" as he accepts it. His face lights up like a lantern as he looks forward to jumping into the next adventure. Well, we sure didn't see or hear that with Tyler. Their whole interaction sounded like the end of a bad first date, where one party is really too polite to say, "Er, sorry. Maybe you'd better try somebody else." And then when you call, they conveniently have an excuse so that "anytime" becomes "no time".
And yep, in that filmed intro on opening night, Hannah talked about how strong and confident she was, how she'd learned lessons from appearing on The Bachelor. And then she proceeded to totally contradict herself the rest of the season. Look, I'm not judging her. I was young and stupid once and made relationship mistakes out of insecurity. But Hannah will never get to a better relationship--certainly not to a good marriage--unless she takes some time off and pulls herself together. And for the love of heaven, LISTEN if your friends and especially your family try to warn you about a guy. I only started thinking about Mr. Red seriously once he survived meeting my parents.
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Post by indy1945 on Jul 31, 2019 18:17:00 GMT
I read somewhere, and can't find it now, that Tyler said neither of them were ready to jump into a relationship right now. They were just going to take it one day at a time. We'll see.
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Post by AlwaysVeg on Jul 31, 2019 20:06:49 GMT
Can't find where I saw this, but maybe someone else read it, too ... that supermodel Gigi Hadid was expressing interest in Tyler on social media. Don't know if anything will come of that, but Gigi could give Hannah a run for her money unless Tyler is really determined to get back with Hannah and is not open to any other possibilities.
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Post by karna68 on Jul 31, 2019 20:22:57 GMT
Tyler needs to be the Bachelor, period.
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Post by FannyMare on Jul 31, 2019 20:31:15 GMT
Tyler needs to be the Bachelor, period. After watching him,I agree. After reading other posts, many think he's nobody's puppet, and that Peter will be..
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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 31, 2019 20:56:57 GMT
Every time Hannah asked Tyler if he would accept her rose he replied, “Always”.
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Post by Girly18 on Jul 31, 2019 23:26:37 GMT
Now that they cast the Bachelor after Bachelor in Paradise to see how fans respond we won't know for a while but I think Tyler could still be in the running. Chris left it open ended to give fans hope but I could see Hannah and Tyler "hanging out", realizing it won't work, then it be more added to his story when they make him the Bachelor and he records his shirtless stroll down the beach.
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Post by AlwaysVeg on Aug 1, 2019 0:02:19 GMT
Hannah needs to grow up before she deserves a mature man like Tyler. She's all mouth and no common sense. With both Luke and Jed, she needed an anvil to fall down on her ditzy head before she could see what was obvious to everyone else despite all the red flags waving in her face.
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Post by mayamaisha on Aug 1, 2019 2:21:50 GMT
I think she picked Jed because of her parents’ concern. Rebellious maybe? But even with that I don’t see how anyone could connect with robotic Jed.
I like Hannah though. She’s just very young.
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Post by mayamaisha on Aug 1, 2019 2:30:58 GMT
Why didn’t this Jed crap come out sooner. I’m betting the powers that be knew about it. If they did, they are so very wrong. She seems to be drawn to con men.
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Post by MissGriss on Aug 1, 2019 3:12:12 GMT
I think she picked Jed because of her parents’ concern. Rebellious maybe? But even with that I don’t see how anyone could connect with robotic Jed. I like Hannah though. She’s just very young. I didn't get the appeal of Jed's personality from what we saw either, but I do know that for the first half of the season at least, almost every single guy who was interviewed after their elimination said that Jed was their favorite person in the house, so he must have more of a personality than we saw. Not defending him or what he did, and I certainly couldn't see why she liked him. I'm just saying that he's clearly more charismatic than we were shown.
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Post by Critical on Aug 1, 2019 3:35:02 GMT
Guys like Jed tend to be SUPER charming and they get away with a lot, in life in general, but definitely with women. They know exactly what to say....or rather, they know exactly what women want them to say. In spite of Hannah's talk about waiting her "whole life" for the right man, she's still VERY young. 24 years ain't that long on earth, honey. She's still susceptible to men like Jed. Many women are. Maybe Tyler said yes to drinks because he didn't want to turn her down on national TV. Maybe he said yes because he still has feelings for her. It's clear they still have chemistry - there was definitely electricity between them on the couch last night - so if it works out, good for them. I like Tyler a lot and I think he's a good guy. Does that mean he'd be a good Bachelor? Not necessarily. The lead generally ends up getting bashed when they show that they're flawed (see: human), so no matter how great everyone thinks he is now, he'd surely do something "wrong" and a bunch of people would slam him for it. I don't know who I'd like to be the next Bach. I definitely didn't want Hannah to be the B'ette, but I think she did a good job, all things considered. She was entertaining, which is what I care about. I never watch this show thinking there's going to be True Love at the end. I watch it purely for entertainment, which is what it's meant to be. I thought Hannah came off as sweet and pretty, but closed-off and bland on Colton's season. She surprised me as the lead. Maybe if they made Mike the Bach, he'd surprise me too. At this point, he also seems pretty bland, with a beautiful smile.
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Post by MissGriss on Aug 1, 2019 4:57:58 GMT
Yes to most of what you said, Critical ! Hard to know if Tyler would be a good bachelor. I just watched a very interesting interview with Tyler on Nick Viall's podcast. I highly recommend it. I learned a whole lot about Tyler's past, where he comes from, what he's up to, etc. And he still came across as a really good guy. Here's the link. www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqrrK1tGa3U&list=PLwuvO7QnbpjjDLP72cS5nB-Mpavk5MEHz One thing that really surprised me was that he's only had one real girlfriend before Hannah. If I understood correctly, they were together for a year and a half and broke up a couple of years ago. When he was talking to Nick, he said that this other woman and Hannah were the only girlfriends he'd ever had. I think it's significant that he does consider Hannah a girlfriend and hasn't reframed that relationship as something else since the show. Clearly he really did fall hard for her, and I think he does still have feelings, though he's being fairly protective of himself (as well he should) in terms of where things might go moving forward. For his sake, I kind of hope things work out with them, since I think he really did/does care for her. (See below for my own personal opinion on going back to someone you loved who chose someone else.) Nick asked him if he'd consider being the Bachelor if things with Hannah don't work out, and I don't think he was being coy when he said he'd have to really think about it because it's a big responsibility, and he's not sure whether or not he'd want to take that on. Gotta say he was as dreamy as ever and seems to be pretty level-headed. Whatever happens, please god don't let him turn into another F-boy like some of the other beloved men from the past have. (Or like Nick, for that matter.) My Opinion: So when I was about the same age as Tyler, I fell hard for a guy who was already in a long-term on and off again relationship with someone but decided to see where things might go with me when someone he was close to lined us up. For a while he was seeing us both (I'm pretty sure she knew about it, because he was a really good guy and not the cheating type. The details are just fuzzy, because it was many, many years ago. ) Long story short, we hit it off and cared deeply for each other. But in the end, he decided to go with the person he knew well and loved rather than someone he loved but didn't really know all that well. It was a hard choice for him, but I came in second like Tyler. The reason I tell this story, though, is to say that if several months later he'd come back and said that things hadn't worked out (say she'd broken up with him rather than it being because he regretted his decision) I would totally have wanted to date him and see where things would go. He felt like my person (and I'd only met one other guy in my life who did), and there's no way I would have let my ego and hurt over not being the initial choice get in the way of a chance to be with him. If Tyler feels the same way about Hannah, I am totally behind him putting ego aside and taking a chance. He really has nothing to lose. Yes. He might get hurt again, but at least there won't ever be a question of "what if" regarding her.
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Post by MissGriss on Aug 1, 2019 13:54:32 GMT
This is a fun outtake from Nick's interview with Tyler. They played a game where Tyler read a quote, and the others had to decide if it was something he said or if it was from The Notebook. The women from the show are crushing on him so hard. (At the end of the first two quotes, he says "Sugar," which is the name of Nick's friend who is on the left and acting all weak in the knees.) youtu.be/N4adiDPU2ss
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Post by karna68 on Aug 1, 2019 15:38:59 GMT
Tyler needs to be the Bachelor, period. After watching him,I agree. After reading other posts, many think he's nobody's puppet, and that Peter will be.. That's where Tyler can just make his own rules just like Hannah did.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 1, 2019 16:27:13 GMT
After watching him,I agree. After reading other posts, many think he's nobody's puppet, and that Peter will be.. That's where Tyler can just make his own rules just like Hannah did. I read that production played a big part in Hannah's role, but they are always there..so. Im still deciding on BIP, after last years debacle
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Post by mayamaisha on Aug 5, 2019 20:02:54 GMT
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