Probably because of oversaturation. As you mentioned, there were a ton of successful shows in the span of 2 decades, and after that, what ideas haven't been done? In the 1960's, JFK said "we choose to go to the moon," and Star Trek began. Now we're housing people on space station for indefinite amounts of time, charting out Mars with our rovers, and we're in talks to colonize it too - space exploration isn't as fictional as it once was. Plus, after 60-odd years of space travel, we've still not discovered any intelligent life, and I don't believe we will in this era of history; if ever. Even though it seems like something that should hold interest forever, it was a fad like everything else.
ETA: Don't forget Red Dwarf, that show went a ton of seasons and keeps getting special revivals
Post by captjohnjsheridan on Aug 6, 2021 9:12:23 GMT
Back in 2014 I was never interested in space or sci fi but thanks to "Mass Effect" and "Neil Degrasse Tyson" I became interested in space and science. I also enjoyed movies like "Guardians of the Galaxy", "Big Hero 6", and "Interstellar".
Then in 2016 I got that chance to take a trip to Disney World. I become more interested in getting a high paying job to give me vacations to Disney World every year. I was more excited into getting in the frat college party culture. I wanted to own a mansion like those wealthy people who live right next to "Disney World".
Then COVID hit. During the quarantine I run out of things to watch on TV. I check out this show on Apple TV out of boredom and curiosity. It was called "For All Mankind" and it reignites my interest in space and science. After finishing the first season I binge watch movies like "Apollo 13", "First Man", "Hidden Figures", "Interstellar", "Gravity", and even a Russian movie called "Salyut 7" and an anime called "Planetes".
I now think being an astronaut would be the coolest thing ever.
I still can't believe how vapid I became.
It feels like I am living in a different reality. I am much more excited and appreciative of science and technology now. I want humanity to push to the Star Trek future.
How would you react if astronauts inspired society again like they did in the 1960s?
Post by captjohnjsheridan on Sept 15, 2021 4:48:57 GMT
I am enjoying "The Expanse" and "For All Mankind" greatly. I loved The Mandalorian. I am excited for "Foundation", "The Wheel of Time", "Star Trek Strange New Worlds", and "Cowboy Bebop". I even enjoyed Lower Decks.
We have loads of space themed sci fi shows now but I think a Mass Effect style show is what is missing from the TV landscape.
TV needs a space adventure set in a refreshing new optimistic take on the future with an epic story that rivals "Game of Thrones" or even "The Expanse" with creative new aliens as well as a lovable memorable spaceship crew but at the same time not afraid to have some fun. There are space shows that are serious all the time like "The Expanse" or "Foundation" and space shows that are light hearted all the time. How about something that is between both of those extremes? I think both "Mass Effect" and "The Mandalorian" fits that bill.
Some of you would say it is "Strange New Worlds" but that is a planet of the week style adventure or "Cowboy Bebop" but it doesn't have aliens although I am really excited for that one.
Do we need a Mass Effect style space adventure? Too bad Amazon gave up on Iain M. Banks "Culture" series.
In addition to that there is an explosion of astronaut themed stuff.
Better late than never.
SpaceX probably revived interest in space to a great degree.
In an alternate timeline where "Sci Fi" did not become "Syfy" and instead became a streaming service that gave us a 2010s full of HBO or Netflix level quality adaptions of "Foundation", "The Hyperion Cantos", "The Expanse", which would have never been cancelled in this timeline, "Planetes", and even "Mass Effect" and "Eve Online" as well at least one astronaut soap opera for those not interested in aliens.
Would this timeline have been a better world?
Or would "Game of Thrones" becoming a massive pop culture phenomenon prevent sci fi from becoming mainstream like GOT did for fantasy?
It would probably be in a world where the space race continued.
Did we really stop dreaming? Or was the desire always there? Dormant, ready for something to reignite it.
How much did materialism contribute? Reality shows seemed all the rage.
While it seemed like a large part of society struggled after the 2008 financial crash there also seemed a be a large part of society that were perfectly comfortable with the status quo. Big house in a safe suburban neighborhood, nice family, vacations to places like Disney World or the Bahamas each year, etc. Life on Earth is good enough already, so why dream and expend energy working towards a "Star Trek" like future?
Post by captjohnjsheridan on Aug 8, 2023 19:44:55 GMT
Especially space adventure fiction?
I was not too interested in space or sci fi until I experienced "Mass Effect" after being tired of being a CoD type gamer.
What I experienced blew me away. I immediately fell in love with the story, universe, and characters Bioware had created even though before I didn't care too much about "Wars" or "Trek".
The first game gave me a huge sense of wonder.
After finishing the trilogy I immediately searched for books that came close to Mass Effect. I ended up devouring "The Expanse" and Vernor Vinge's "A Fire Upon the Deep".
It seems like mostly men tend to gravitate to this genre. Most of my female friends who read tend to gravitate to fantasy and romance.
I wish we lived in a world where most people were excited by space travel but with the world the way it is I don't blame people for having no hope for the future.
I wish we had a space opera novel series with a lovable spaceship crew, exciting space battles, and gripping story set in an amazing futuristic universe filled with a sense of wonder that was taking the world by storm and captivating a huge mainstream audience.
I remember seeing 1 and 2 star reviews of "Leviathan Wakes" saying that there was sexist stuff.
I don't remember any sexist stuff in Leviathan Wakes but if there were then something better than "The Expanse" needs to be created.