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Post by captjohnjsheridan on Jan 11, 2020 18:40:05 GMT
In the 90s up to the early 2000s we had TV shows set in space! Multiple Star Treks, Babylon 5, Space: Above & Beyond, Farscape, Battlestar Galactica, and Firefly!
Ever since Battlestar Galactica ended it seems like space hasn't been as big in our culture as it was in the 90s!
What happened?
Was it the recession? After all there was no money for the space shuttle!
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Post by lonnie on Jan 11, 2020 19:45:51 GMT
There's a new Star Trek series with Patrick Stewart, called Star Trek Picard, starting this month. I think a new Battlestar Galatica tv series is coming out this year.
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Post by Bearcata on Jan 12, 2020 7:59:28 GMT
Lots of stuff on SyFy, there was Killjoys and the Expanse. Expanse is hard core scifi and is now on amazon prime.
I think maybe the superhero series may have replaced the regular sci fi stuff on network channels.
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Post by badseed on Jan 12, 2020 17:01:29 GMT
Probably because of oversaturation. As you mentioned, there were a ton of successful shows in the span of 2 decades, and after that, what ideas haven't been done? In the 1960's, JFK said "we choose to go to the moon," and Star Trek began. Now we're housing people on space station for indefinite amounts of time, charting out Mars with our rovers, and we're in talks to colonize it too - space exploration isn't as fictional as it once was. Plus, after 60-odd years of space travel, we've still not discovered any intelligent life, and I don't believe we will in this era of history; if ever. Even though it seems like something that should hold interest forever, it was a fad like everything else.
ETA: Don't forget Red Dwarf, that show went a ton of seasons and keeps getting special revivals
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Post by Gutmutter on Jan 12, 2020 18:28:03 GMT
I’m a huge fan of the Expanse series. Both the books and the series.
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Post by Bearcata on Jan 12, 2020 20:14:37 GMT
I do think there are tons of shows and series out there they area just not on the big three networks so it seems sparse.
I am watching Manifest and I consider that speculative fiction. There is Orville.
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Post by captjohnjsheridan on Aug 18, 2020 1:29:42 GMT
Do you think shows like this can help revive interest in space and/or sci fi?
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Post by springmaiden27 on Aug 18, 2020 6:25:29 GMT
I’m enjoying For All Mankind. It’s interesting to explore this concept of “what if?”
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Post by captjohnjsheridan on Aug 6, 2021 9:12:23 GMT
Back in 2014 I was never interested in space or sci fi but thanks to "Mass Effect" and "Neil Degrasse Tyson" I became interested in space and science. I also enjoyed movies like "Guardians of the Galaxy", "Big Hero 6", and "Interstellar". Then in 2016 I got that chance to take a trip to Disney World. I become more interested in getting a high paying job to give me vacations to Disney World every year. I was more excited into getting in the frat college party culture. I wanted to own a mansion like those wealthy people who live right next to "Disney World". Then COVID hit. During the quarantine I run out of things to watch on TV. I check out this show on Apple TV out of boredom and curiosity. It was called "For All Mankind" and it reignites my interest in space and science. After finishing the first season I binge watch movies like "Apollo 13", "First Man", "Hidden Figures", "Interstellar", "Gravity", and even a Russian movie called "Salyut 7" and an anime called "Planetes".
I now think being an astronaut would be the coolest thing ever.
I still can't believe how vapid I became.
It feels like I am living in a different reality. I am much more excited and appreciative of science and technology now. I want humanity to push to the Star Trek future.
How would you react if astronauts inspired society again like they did in the 1960s?
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Post by captjohnjsheridan on Sept 15, 2021 4:48:57 GMT
I am enjoying "The Expanse" and "For All Mankind" greatly. I loved The Mandalorian. I am excited for "Foundation", "The Wheel of Time", "Star Trek Strange New Worlds", and "Cowboy Bebop". I even enjoyed Lower Decks. We have loads of space themed sci fi shows now but I think a Mass Effect style show is what is missing from the TV landscape. TV needs a space adventure set in a refreshing new optimistic take on the future with an epic story that rivals "Game of Thrones" or even "The Expanse" with creative new aliens as well as a lovable memorable spaceship crew but at the same time not afraid to have some fun. There are space shows that are serious all the time like "The Expanse" or "Foundation" and space shows that are light hearted all the time. How about something that is between both of those extremes? I think both "Mass Effect" and "The Mandalorian" fits that bill. Some of you would say it is "Strange New Worlds" but that is a planet of the week style adventure or "Cowboy Bebop" but it doesn't have aliens although I am really excited for that one. Do we need a Mass Effect style space adventure? Too bad Amazon gave up on Iain M. Banks "Culture" series.
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Post by captjohnjsheridan on Sept 30, 2021 22:52:00 GMT
Back in 2011-2014 there was not one show on TV that had space travel in it that was not a Star Wars cartoon. I enjoyed "Clone Wars" and even "Rebels" btw. Now there are at least a dozen and we are getting more.
In addition to that there is an explosion of astronaut themed stuff.
Better late than never.
SpaceX probably revived interest in space to a great degree.
In an alternate timeline where "Sci Fi" did not become "Syfy" and instead became a streaming service that gave us a 2010s full of HBO or Netflix level quality adaptions of "Foundation", "The Hyperion Cantos", "The Expanse", which would have never been cancelled in this timeline, "Planetes", and even "Mass Effect" and "Eve Online" as well at least one astronaut soap opera for those not interested in aliens.
Would this timeline have been a better world?
Or would "Game of Thrones" becoming a massive pop culture phenomenon prevent sci fi from becoming mainstream like GOT did for fantasy?
It would probably be in a world where the space race continued.
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Post by captjohnjsheridan on Oct 27, 2021 7:08:22 GMT
There are plenty of "Star Trek" and "Star Wars" shows on right now but where is our gritty sci fi futuristic war saga? I grew up with games like "Command & Conquer" and "Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri" in the 90s. It would be awesome if they could make a show about a group of humans who travel off to a far off solar system and then split off into unique factions.
"Command and Conquer" was the first fictional universe I fell in love with and it could make for an awesome future war show.
Where is our sci fi equivalent of "Game of Thrones"? We need more powered armored super soldiers on our TV screens!
Has the depressing state of the world cause society to gravitate for more fantastical settings like superheroes and fantasy?
Or since we already live in the future with computers and space travel we desire these more fantastical settings?
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Post by Gutmutter on Oct 27, 2021 10:30:35 GMT
The Expanse series on Amazon fits your description!
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Post by captjohnjsheridan on Mar 21, 2022 2:47:28 GMT
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Post by captjohnjsheridan on Aug 8, 2023 19:44:55 GMT
Especially space adventure fiction?
I was not too interested in space or sci fi until I experienced "Mass Effect" after being tired of being a CoD type gamer.
What I experienced blew me away. I immediately fell in love with the story, universe, and characters Bioware had created even though before I didn't care too much about "Wars" or "Trek".
The first game gave me a huge sense of wonder.
After finishing the trilogy I immediately searched for books that came close to Mass Effect. I ended up devouring "The Expanse" and Vernor Vinge's "A Fire Upon the Deep".
It seems like mostly men tend to gravitate to this genre. Most of my female friends who read tend to gravitate to fantasy and romance.
I wish we lived in a world where most people were excited by space travel but with the world the way it is I don't blame people for having no hope for the future.
I wish we had a space opera novel series with a lovable spaceship crew, exciting space battles, and gripping story set in an amazing futuristic universe filled with a sense of wonder that was taking the world by storm and captivating a huge mainstream audience.
I remember seeing 1 and 2 star reviews of "Leviathan Wakes" saying that there was sexist stuff.
I don't remember any sexist stuff in Leviathan Wakes but if there were then something better than "The Expanse" needs to be created.
This article shares my sentiment. |
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 10, 2023 17:42:01 GMT
Just finished Star Trek: Strange New Worlds season 2.
This series is SO GOOD, but each season so far is only 10 episodes long.
Luv, luv, luv how they really develop the characters we all know and love. Uhura, Chapel, Kirk, and Scotty.
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