3/12 - PR18 Finale pt 2 Discussion

Okay I have packed my bags and am gone. The new revamped Project Runway is a joke. I want to see Nina wear one of those hideous designs.

I didn't really care for his collection either. I loved his camo dress earlier in the season, but I don't think there was even one of his finale pieces that I liked. The other three had some good and bad designs too. 

I do like Geoffrey's collection better than that awful winner several seasons ago (Greta?), the one who made the granny panties/diapers.

I did love how friendly the final four were with each other, and how encouraging they were. It seemed like they all genuinely liked each other. 

Looks like a fantastic outcome for PR18. I don't have viewing access until tomorrow but am looking forward to seeing it! I've enjoyed seeing Nancy stretch her creative wings and wish the best for her. And Geoffrey what a compelling life story and he's such a creative soul! I hope for the much success for him! I'm very happy that he won this competition!

Very happy with the outcome!! There were outfits that I thought were great in each of the collections and some I did not care for at all. I did like Geoffery' s designs, although I probably prefered Victoria's a tad more.  Nonetheless  I am thrilled for him. 

Geoffrey had a sleeve hanging off the boob of one of his models. Not flattering.
Sergio had fringe hanging cowboy style on his dresses. That made the dresses look tacky.
Victoria still had too many logos on her designs.
Nancy had a lovely liquid fabric but did not impress with her designs.

Personally, I liked all the designers. I was rooting for Nancy, because of her story.
I am glad Geoffrey won and they showed him talking to his dad. ❤️
Sergio proposing to his partner was sweet.
Victoria dedicated her work to her husband, touching.

I don't know what PR actually does for the winning designer. Way too many of them have done almost nothing of note. Christian is the huge exception as he said, about the time after he won, that nobody was going to do it for him so he had the sole responsibility for himself.

Of course now the mentorship has to be a big help, but I hope the Geoffrey has the emotional strength to push himself along. It seems in hearing his life atory that he has had a few "almost" moments that crumbled.

I watched part of that but missed what Nina said about the winners. I did laugh when Andy asked each of them if GM was their choice and Nina was vague and BM refused to answer...so I wonder how they came select GM.

beerbelly I forgot about Sergio's mother nature comment and then I knew where he got the inspiration for his dress. It reminded me of those butter commercials in the '70's, "it's not nice to fool Mother Nature." (I was little, so I can't remember what the brand actually was!)

I love how supportive the designers were of each other. I would have been happy had any one of them been declared the winner. I think they will all go on to great (or more) success.

How long has Nancy been designing for people with disabilities? I had the feeling it was perhaps a new found passion. While I absolutely applaud the effort ( although personally I didnt care for either look) having worked with the disability world there is sometimes a fine line between a sort of paternalistic  "isnt that special" versus genuine acceptance.  I wasnt sure about the audience in this case.

Wow. Lot's of thoughts. I'm not unhappy that Geoffrey won. He was so sweet and kind. He and Nancy were the two that I was rooting for. It's ironic, then, that his final collection was the one I liked the least. Those humongous jackets may be fashion-forward, but I thought they were hideous. You remember that old movie A Christmas Story? There's a scene where Ralphie's mom dresses his little brother in layers of winter clothing, so that he can barely move. As they walk to school, the little brother falls over and flails in the snow like a bug, unable to get up. Honestly, when I saw Geoffrey's huge jackets in the first part of the finale, I thought of that scene and laughed. I did feel a little sorry for Geoffrey at the final runway show, though. His mother clucked and told his brother, "He still doesn't know how to dress for a serious occasion!" It makes me wonder if he still gets pushback from his family. I'm glad that lady--his sister? mother?--squealed when he called home and said he won.


I also liked it that they jumped to the point and announced the winner. I always felt badly for the losing designers in the past. "Well, we almost picked you to win, but..." Just get it over with. And that was so sweet that they all hugged and congratulated Geoffrey.

Nancy's collection was gorgeous and my personal favorite. What was that fabric she used that shimmered like water? I knew she wouldn't win, though, because her collection looked too much the same. Also, she had used a disabled model before in the Olympic challenge, so it seemed like more of the same. As a special education teacher, I agree with the comments about patronizing the disabled models. I cringed when that model with the prosthetic leg told the designers in casting "I'm customizable!" It sounded cute, but it also sounded like she was having to sell herself. And yes, that jewel-encrusted leg was gorgeous on the runway. But it felt wrong for her and the wheelchair model to receive all that cheering when the regular models didn't. You are supposed to be admiring the dress. The model should fade into the background, not be the star of the show.

Sergio already had an established clientele. Remember how he would go on about this women clients paying thousands of dollars for his dresses? I'm guessing he just wanted to transition and dress celebrities. Victoria had some good looks this season, but that branding in the finale just looked tacky. The judges were spot-on. You have to earn the name recognition in order for people to want to emulate by putting your name on their clothing. And was it technically cheating that her mother created the knitted accessories? At least Victoria was honest about that.

Designers from the past...that brings back memories. Austin Scarlett and Santino briefly had a show together on Bravo. Somebody said Scarlett appeared on a Bravo series about wedding dresses. Chris March also had a show on Bravo. It looked like he was doing well. When he died he was widely praised. Michael Costello has done really well. Next to Christian, he is one of the go-to designers for celebrities. He appeared as a guest judge on a Bravo reality show about make-up artists, and the contestants swooned over him. Other than that, I don't have any clue how people from this show have turned out. As for Sebastien's designing for Milan, if I hadn't have read it here, I never would have known. With rare exceptions, do you know who does the costumes for the moves/TV shows you watch?


It's interesting, because for their show Tim & Heidi have said it's about more than designing. In today's fashion world, they said, you have to be business savy and think about how to build your brand. That's why they're going to have seamstresses do the actual sewing on their show, because the designers are going to concentrate as much on marketing as on creating. It will be an interesting comparison. It's on Amazon Prime and I believe it debuts on March 27.

It's not cheating as long as she paid her mother and could produce a receipt showing that she paid for the materials/labor. I remember Gretchen had someone make all the jewelry for her collection, and I remember someone else couldn't use the custom-made shoes they had made for their collection because they couldn't produce a receipt/used extra money for it? It was a long time ago; I can't remember who it was.