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Post by Critical on Aug 21, 2024 2:57:45 GMT
The saddest is how much JLO has moved her 2 children all over the place between all her many relationships and all her many marriages. Sad and kind of pathetic that she just cannot be single for five freaking minutes because God forbid anyone think she's not constantly desirable to a man. How long was she single before she got back together with Ben? I hope she spends some time now just being a mom and making sure those kids are okay, but I don't have a lot of optimism.
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Post by momrek06 on Aug 21, 2024 4:10:56 GMT
The saddest is how much JLO has moved her 2 children all over the place between all her many relationships and all her many marriages. Sad and kind of pathetic that she just cannot be single for five freaking minutes because God forbid anyone think she's not constantly desirable to a man. How long was she single before she got back together with Ben? I hope she spends some time now just being a mom and making sure those kids are okay, but I don't have a lot of optimism. TRUTH Critical ...... everything you posted TOTAL TRUTH as far as JLO.
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Post by libgirl2 on Aug 21, 2024 11:26:35 GMT
Why can't she just date instead of marrying all these men? And not a small, lets run off to Vegas wedding, but a big production. I give Taylor Swift credit, she dates around as she should! Why rush into marriage?
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Post by beerbelly on Aug 21, 2024 11:42:06 GMT
And no pre-nup?!!
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Post by momrek06 on Aug 21, 2024 14:08:37 GMT
Why can't she just date instead of marrying all these men? And not a small, lets run off to Vegas wedding, but a big production. I give Taylor Swift credit, she dates around as she should! Why rush into marriage? Well libgirl2 she does both ... she has long time relationships with men (ARod) and never marries them ... so its one or the other. Long time relationships w/o getting married or marries them and still the relationships never last. Look if she had no children that would be one thing BUT she has 2.
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Post by momrek06 on Aug 21, 2024 14:11:04 GMT
beerbelly, I know I wonder why they decided against a pre-nup?
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Post by Imperfect1 on Aug 21, 2024 14:49:19 GMT
Welp, I'm sad for them. I really hoped they worked things out. I guess they weren't meant to. I'm sad for them too. I guess no matter how much you love someone, you can't always make a life with that person. It's really too bad, because they seemed to be very much in love, twice.
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Post by Amy Lee on Aug 21, 2024 15:04:22 GMT
My theories are that they thought both are quite wealthy and likely don't want, or need, anything financially from the other. It could also have been that Jenn was so in love with Ben, thought he was the one, and thought they'd be together forever.
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Post by Amy Lee on Aug 21, 2024 15:11:36 GMT
Welp, I'm sad for them. I really hoped they worked things out. I guess they weren't meant to. I'm sad for them too. I guess no matter how much you love someone, you can't always make a life with that person. It's really too bad, because they seemed to be very much in love, twice. I truly wish them both the best. Ben is in recovery, so i hope he's holding up well. Jenn is appearing publicly as if nothing has happened, but this is her fourth marriage, I'm sure she's hurt and feels rejected.
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Post by Kao on Aug 21, 2024 15:49:55 GMT
I'm wondering (and in all honesty side-eying) why everyone is blaming JLo for the split when Ben has been a damn mess for quite some time and seemed to straighten out a bit while with her. I only hope she stays in his children's lives (and Jen G stays in Jlo's children's lives) because all of the kids love each other and they have a great family unit going. That need not end just because of the divorce.
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Post by Kao on Aug 22, 2024 15:34:35 GMT
Hmmm....maybe my suspicions were right. Ben seems to make a good boyfriend but a horrible husband (kinda like turning a whore into a housewife; while it can work under certain circumstances the odds are low ). There's only so long you can be the only person trying to make things work before you cut your losses.
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Post by beerbelly on Aug 22, 2024 16:17:42 GMT
I mean, whenever I see him, I think of his huge, horrible back tattoo. I could never get past that. And for her to love him, marry him, and not have a prenup with him? I imagine there were a lot of red flags, but she went heart first, much to the chagrin of her lawyers.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 22, 2024 17:22:48 GMT
J'lo must have a nice collection of rings. She should stay away from men for awhile, it seems that's not something she can do.
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Post by beerbelly on Aug 22, 2024 20:58:48 GMT
I think I read it was 17 million in engagement rings?
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Post by Critical on Aug 23, 2024 0:29:54 GMT
I'm wondering (and in all honesty side-eying) why everyone is blaming JLo for the split when Ben has been a damn mess for quite some time and seemed to straighten out a bit while with her. I only hope she stays in his children's lives (and Jen G stays in Jlo's children's lives) because all of the kids love each other and they have a great family unit going. That need not end just because of the divorce. I think they're both to blame. I think she is very unrealistic and demanding about the men in her life. She seems to care more about her public image than the health of her private relationships. Obviously, Ben is a freaking mess. He seems to have multiple addictions that he should have been dealing with instead of getting into another relationship.
At least Ben's kids have a pretty normal - at least by show business standards - mother who is able to give them some stability. It also seems like Jen G. has been able to (publicly, at least) put aside any feelings she has about Ben to be there for him for the benefit of their kids. I don't know much about Marc Anthony, so I have no idea if he's a stable parent for his and JLo's two kids. I seem to remember some abusive behavior from him, but involving another relationship and not his marriage to Jlo.
I hope both Ben and Jen get into therapy/rehab for the benefit of their kids and themselves, instead of hopping into another relationship.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 23, 2024 0:51:07 GMT
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Post by Amy Lee on Aug 23, 2024 2:14:42 GMT
I mean, whenever I see him, I think of his huge, horrible back tattoo. I could never get past that. And for her to love him, marry him, and not have a prenup with him? I imagine there were a lot of red flags, but she went heart first, much to the chagrin of her lawyers. I don't think Jlo or Ben stand to lose any money in this. They'll both be financially ok.
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Post by mamac on Aug 23, 2024 4:55:34 GMT
Does anyone else get the Elizabeth Taylor/Richard Burton vibes from these two? It's like they go back and forth being in and out of love with each other.
Maybe, like Critical says, they should try therapy to see if they can figure out what their problems are and if they can reconcile their differences.
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Post by Kao on Aug 23, 2024 16:07:19 GMT
You can love someone but not *like* them as a person. That might be what's going on here. Either way, 15 years from now they'll get together again.
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Post by Cuddles on Aug 23, 2024 17:58:23 GMT
I think JLo is a talented person with a big heart so it's with great apprehension that I say this but I suspect the onus for their split primarily falls on her. Right off the bat we were seeing reports that she was insisting he 'up' his wardrobe which suggested to me that she wasn't ready/prepared to marry new (healthier) Ben. She believed old Ben would come along with new Ben. But it doesn't work that way. Ben had to eliminate old Ben in order to become new Ben.
As a sidenote, I think it was a bit much to file on their anniversary.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Aug 25, 2024 15:52:36 GMT
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Aug 27, 2024 12:27:01 GMT
When I first read about this news, I thought it seemed pretty heartless for JLo to file on their anniversary.
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Post by nennie on Aug 27, 2024 13:25:23 GMT
I never expected Ben and Jennifer to last.
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Post by Kao on Aug 27, 2024 14:13:24 GMT
Oop. Someone is tired of someone's [deleted] because People has been churning out article after article lately about how it was actually Ben's idea to put all of that personal stuff like the love letters into her Amazon movie (which people assumed was on her), that he had "checked out" even when she was trying to hold them together, and that he hasn't even bothered to see her twins while she's still doing carpools with Jen G with all the kids and was papped shopping with Violet a few days ago (I believe this because Jennifer has stayed in contact with her stepchildren with Marc Anthony as well as Alex Rodriguez's kids). It doesn't surprise me that the two Jennifers are working together to make this as easy on the kids as possible. Some people just want to blame women for everything. Is she a pampered spoiled mess? Sure, but I think people are forgetting that Ben is an alcoholic who put Jen G through the ringer with his constant cheating and rubbing it in her face, falling off the wagon, gambling addiction, ugly tattoos, etc. This is a messy couple that I believe love each other very much but the messiness got in the way. people.com/jennifer-lopez-didnt-want-ben-affleck-divorce-but-relieved-source-exclusive-8701281To top it all off, he's been seen out and about with Kick Kennedy (RFK's daughter) lately. His people denied that anything's going on to U.S. Weekly but he's lied in the past about women he was later linked to, so I don't know. It fits his MO though because as much as JLo doesn't like to be alone he doesn't either. www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/ben-affleck-is-not-dating-rfk-jr-s-daughter-kathleen-kick-kennedy/
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Post by libgirl2 on Aug 27, 2024 15:51:24 GMT
He sounds like a mess. I don't solely blame her but she should have known.
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Aug 27, 2024 15:59:12 GMT
I don't solely blame one over the other as I don't know them personally, but her filing on their anniversary was heartless all the same, IMO.
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Post by Cuddles on Aug 27, 2024 16:00:06 GMT
I've become a real sceptic of People and their sources.
I am looking at the balance of what occurred. It appears to me that JLo used their whirlwind reconnection, Vegas nuptials, and an over-the-top wedding to refuel her artistry. And please don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting that her feelings weren't genuine. I am only suggesting that his takeaway might be similar to mine. Combine that with her insistence that he change his wardrobe to impress fans and the like, and yeah, I would've wanted out too.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 27, 2024 17:02:32 GMT
I don't solely blame one over the other as I don't know them personally, but her filing on their anniversary was heartless all the same, IMO. In her book, she eluded to the fact, he didn't want to live life in social media( this was the first time they married) I suspect the same happened second time around.. I think J.lo gives 110% when she's on stage, she leaves everything out there. I don't think her relationships are as easy. Jmho.
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Post by Amy Lee on Aug 27, 2024 19:18:30 GMT
He sounds like a mess. I don't solely blame her but she should have known. I don't solely blame her either. Hell, even I was fooled.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 27, 2024 20:14:56 GMT
He sounds like a mess. I don't solely blame her but she should have known. I don't solely blame her either. Hell, even I was fooled. I wouldn't marry my ex, fool me once etc. etc...
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