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Post by Kao on Aug 28, 2024 6:50:58 GMT
I don't solely blame one over the other as I don't know them personally, but her filing on their anniversary was heartless all the same, IMO. I think J.lo gives 110% when she's on stage, she leaves everything out there. I don't think her relationships are as easy. Jmho. They were only engaged the first time around; they split because of his gambling and the fact that he went out drunk to the club and had sex with a stripper a month before the wedding and JLo bounced.
He's a pap hooker from the days of the shots of him at school events and going to church with Jen G, to being out, messy, and drunk with Shookus, to being out and drunk with that 24 year old he was fooling around with before Shookus finally got smart and dumped him, the countless "walks" around the neighborhood during the Pandemic era with Ana de Armas, to whooping it up with JLo. The common denominator in all of this is Ben. Granted, he's a star (and pap bait) but there's the Britney Spears/Amy Winehouse level where the paps lie in wait and follow you everywhere in the hopes you'll do something crazy...and then there's the level where the paps are told where someone would be so they can go and take "random" photographs. Ben's messy self is the latter because otherwise you'll have to argue that every woman he's been linked to has the paps on speed dial. |
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Post by Amy Lee on Aug 28, 2024 13:12:54 GMT
In her book, she eluded to the fact, he didn't want to live life in social media( this was the first time they married) I suspect the same happened second time around..I think J.lo gives 110% when she's on stage, she leaves everything out there. I don't think her relationships are as easy. Jmho. They were only engaged the first time around; they split because of his gambling and the fact that he went out drunk to the club and had sex with a stripper a month before the wedding and JLo bounced.
He's a pap hooker from the days of the shots of him at school events and going to church with Jen G, to being out, messy, and drunk with Shookus, to being out and drunk with that 24 year old he was fooling around with before Shookus finally got smart and dumped him, the countless "walks" around the neighborhood during the Pandemic era with Ana de Armas, to whooping it up with JLo. The common denominator in all of this is Ben. Granted, he's a star (and pap bait) but there's the Britney Spears/Amy Winehouse level where the paps lie in wait and follow you everywhere in the hopes you'll do something crazy...and then there's the level where the paps are told where someone would be so they can go and take "random" photographs. Ben's messy self is the latter because otherwise you'll have to argue that every woman he's been linked to has the paps on speed dial. Random, but I still don't care for Lindsey Shookus. |
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Post by Cuddles on Aug 28, 2024 16:12:39 GMT
In her book, she eluded to the fact, he didn't want to live life in social media( this was the first time they married) I suspect the same happened second time around..I think J.lo gives 110% when she's on stage, she leaves everything out there. I don't think her relationships are as easy. Jmho. They were only engaged the first time around; they split because of his gambling and the fact that he went out drunk to the club and had sex with a stripper a month before the wedding and JLo bounced.
He's a pap hooker from the days of the shots of him at school events and going to church with Jen G, to being out, messy, and drunk with Shookus, to being out and drunk with that 24 year old he was fooling around with before Shookus finally got smart and dumped him, the countless "walks" around the neighborhood during the Pandemic era with Ana de Armas, to whooping it up with JLo. The common denominator in all of this is Ben. Granted, he's a star (and pap bait) but there's the Britney Spears/Amy Winehouse level where the paps lie in wait and follow you everywhere in the hopes you'll do something crazy...and then there's the level where the paps are told where someone would be so they can go and take "random" photographs. Ben's messy self is the latter because otherwise you'll have to argue that every woman he's been linked to has the paps on speed dial. Wow, we are usually in sync but this time I see something far different. The reason Ben is the common denominator is because there is nothing the tabloids want more than to catch someone falling off the wagon because those type of stories are what bring in the big $$$$. It sounds to me like he was cognizant of her need to be in the limelight but she wouldn’t compromise. |
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Post by libgirl2 on Aug 28, 2024 17:04:59 GMT
I don't solely blame her either. Hell, even I was fooled. I wouldn't marry my ex, fool me once etc. etc... Didn't Marie Osmond marry her ex? Not saying I would. |
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Aug 28, 2024 17:14:38 GMT
I think it boils down to, the two (JLo and Ben) were very toxic for each other. JLo and her need for the limelight, and Ben had/has his own issues that JLo could not or didn't want to help him with..at least not like Jennifer Garner has. He and Jennifer Garner have children together, so I give Jennifer Garner huge props.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 28, 2024 17:19:56 GMT
I wouldn't marry my ex, fool me once etc. etc... Didn't Marie Osmond marry her ex? Not saying I would. No idea |
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Post by Critical on Aug 28, 2024 18:39:41 GMT
I wouldn't marry my ex, fool me once etc. etc... Didn't Marie Osmond marry her ex? Not saying I would. Yep, she remarried her first husband. They got married in the early 80s and then divorced fairly quickly. Then they got back together and remarried over a decade ago. I'm pretty sure they're still together. |
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Post by MissGriss on Aug 28, 2024 19:49:30 GMT
Didn't Marie Osmond marry her ex? Not saying I would. Yep, she remarried her first husband. They got married in the early 80s and then divorced fairly quickly. Then they got back together and remarried over a decade ago. I'm pretty sure they're still together. Yeah. Her first husband was Steve something, an athlete at BYU. Apparently, he did mature with age and made a good husband the second time around. EDITED TO ADD: It’s interesting that I am blaming him for it not working. I seem to remember that was the story at the time, but he also didn’t have the PR team she did, so…. I think they were quite young, so it’s likely they both matured into better partners. I’m happy for them that their second chance worked out. |
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Post by libgirl2 on Aug 28, 2024 21:24:45 GMT
Yep, she remarried her first husband. They got married in the early 80s and then divorced fairly quickly. Then they got back together and remarried over a decade ago. I'm pretty sure they're still together. Yeah. Her first husband was Steve something, an athlete at BYU. Apparently, he did mature with age and made a good husband the second time around. EDITED TO ADD: It’s interesting that I am blaming him for it not working. I seem to remember that was the story at the time, but he also didn’t have the PR team she did, so…. I think they were quite young, so it’s likely they both matured into better partners. I’m happy for them that their second chance worked out. I seem to remember an article where she mentioned something to feeling "forced" into getting married before either were ready for it. |
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Post by libgirl2 on Aug 28, 2024 21:25:34 GMT
I think it boils down to, the two (JLo and Ben) were very toxic for each other. JLo and her need for the limelight, and Ben had/has his own issues that JLo could not or didn't want to help him with..at least not like Jennifer Garner has. He and Jennifer Garner have children together, so I give Jennifer Garner huge props. She has a track record and he has a track record. I think the blame falls on them both but for different reasons. |
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Post by Cuddles on Aug 28, 2024 22:18:32 GMT
I think it boils down to, the two (JLo and Ben) were very toxic for each other. JLo and her need for the limelight, and Ben had/has his own issues that JLo could not or didn't want to help him with..at least not like Jennifer Garner has. He and Jennifer Garner have children together, so I give Jennifer Garner huge props. Jennifer Garner is a walking angel, isn't she? I don't know if anyone here has seen the video of her putting socks and sneaks on a homeless person, but omg, she is such a lovely person. |
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Post by Kao on Aug 29, 2024 4:54:13 GMT
I think it boils down to, the two (JLo and Ben) were very toxic for each other. JLo and her need for the limelight, and Ben had/has his own issues that JLo could not or didn't want to help him with..at least not like Jennifer Garner has. He and Jennifer Garner have children together, so I give Jennifer Garner huge props. Jennifer Gardner is a walking angel, isn't she? I don't know if anyone here has seen the video of her putting socks and sneaks on a homeless person, but omg, she is such a lovely person. OMG. Nothing against her, but who films something like that?
People who use the unhoused in SM videos for clout is a huge pet peeve of mine (also see: Justin Timberlakes idiot friends who filmed homeless people congratulating him on his marriage as a wedding gag gift. You know, because unhoused people are funny.  ).
Both Jens deserve medals for putting up with Ben (especially Jen G with that Shookus business).
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Post by Critical on Aug 29, 2024 6:19:18 GMT
My favorite video of Jennifer Garner's is her bathing her cat, Moose, because (in her words) he pooped his pants. It is so hilarious and totally relatable if you've ever had a long haired cat. I just gets funnier and funnier.
I think the difference between the two Jennifers is that, while Garner seems to embrace life's messiness, JLo seems to need her life to appear perfect all the time. I'd imagine that's pretty exhausting.
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Aug 29, 2024 12:24:04 GMT
I watched that video of Jennifer Garner putting socks and shoes on that man's feet. What a touching act of pure kindness and compassion.
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Post by moviememories on Aug 29, 2024 17:37:46 GMT
Is unhoused a new word for the homeless?
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Post by ccl on Aug 29, 2024 17:45:43 GMT
Yes. Unhoused has grown in usage over the past few years or so.
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Post by dagwood on Aug 29, 2024 19:46:18 GMT
Yeah. Her first husband was Steve something, an athlete at BYU. Apparently, he did mature with age and made a good husband the second time around. EDITED TO ADD: It’s interesting that I am blaming him for it not working. I seem to remember that was the story at the time, but he also didn’t have the PR team she did, so…. I think they were quite young, so it’s likely they both matured into better partners. I’m happy for them that their second chance worked out. I seem to remember an article where she mentioned something to feeling "forced" into getting married before either were ready for it. That makes a lot of sense. She is Mormon and in Utah, the culture is big on getting married young. I can see her feeling forced. |
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Post by Imperfect1 on Aug 30, 2024 0:55:00 GMT
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Post by FireWoman on Aug 30, 2024 4:32:43 GMT
Sad to say I am not at all shocked. :/ |
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Post by Critical on Aug 30, 2024 10:20:56 GMT
That's disappointing. Not trying to generalize, but....I've known a good number of Russians in my time and Russian men are often pretty misogynistic. Pair that attitude with a strong woman and that's bound to end badly. I hope they're able to work things out, at least for the sake of their son. By "work things out," I don't mean "stay together" btw. She needs to do whatever she needs to do to feel safe.
Kaitlyn Bristowe has made comments about how she and Artem did not remain friends after DWTS. IIRC, when she had Charity on her podcast, it sounded like Charity totally understood. Unusual, I think, since I'd guess that most pairs who won their season probably at least remain friendly.
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Post by Amy Lee on Aug 30, 2024 11:30:04 GMT
This was also eye-opening to me until I remembered that what we all see is window dressing. We never truly know what is going on in someone else's relationship. I hope Nikki and Matteo are OK. |
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Post by libgirl2 on Aug 30, 2024 13:26:12 GMT
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Post by MissGriss on Aug 30, 2024 23:12:18 GMT
That's disappointing. Not trying to generalize, but....I've known a good number of Russians in my time and Russian men are often pretty misogynistic. Pair that attitude with a strong woman and that's bound to end badly. I hope they're able to work things out, at least for the sake of their son. By "work things out," I don't mean "stay together" btw. She needs to do whatever she needs to do to feel safe. Kaitlyn Bristowe has made comments about how she and Artem did not remain friends after DWTS. IIRC, when she had Charity on her podcast, it sounded like Charity totally understood. Unusual, I think, since I'd guess that most pairs who won their season probably at least remain friendly. I've always thought that he seemed to be somewhat (if not outright) abusive of his partners in the way he treated them, so this doesn't surprise me at all. He's good at what he does in terms of dance, but he does not seem like even sort of a nice person. |
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Post by MissGriss on Aug 31, 2024 6:48:30 GMT
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Post by Amy Lee on Aug 31, 2024 15:30:34 GMT
Although I'm sure her heart is in the right place, statements from people like Cheryl's always come across as undermining the experience that someone else might have had with Artem. Allegedly, Nikki can't say the same. |
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Post by MissGriss on Aug 31, 2024 20:49:56 GMT
Although I'm sure her heart is in the right place, statements from people like Cheryl's always come across as undermining the experience that someone else might have had with Artem. Allegedly, Nikki can't say the same. So true. The way that controlling and abusive people behave with friends can be very different from the way they behave with a partner/spouse. Thanks for the reminder. |
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 31, 2024 21:10:14 GMT
We never know what goes on behind closed doors.😥
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Post by Kao on Aug 31, 2024 22:52:02 GMT
And even with relationships how someone gets treated can vary. It's completely possible that someone can be great with one partner while combative with another.
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Post by Critical on Sept 2, 2024 23:04:30 GMT
And even with relationships how someone gets treated can vary. It's completely possible that someone can be great with one partner while combative with another. ^^^this Of course Cheryl would have a different relationship with Artem than his gf/wife would. He and Cheryl were competitors and colleagues (and, apparently, roommates) for many years. I think the issue with Nikki probably carried over from DWTS. Their relationship started as teacher/student, where HE was in control. Maybe he found is difficult to relinquish that role 
I'll be curious to see how DWTS reacts and if he'll ever appear as a pro again. In truth, he is one of the older pros, so he likely wasn't going to be on too many more seasons anyway.
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Post by MissGriss on Sept 3, 2024 2:02:46 GMT
He had just found out that he wasn't going to be on this season, so this doesn't bode well for him as far as the future goes.
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