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Post by AZChristian on Feb 21, 2019 14:39:40 GMT
Does anyone know anything about psychology? I kind of wonder what would make someone fake a crime. Did he really think he wouldn't be caught? He was willing to risk his life and career for this. I don't get it. His publicity agent wasn't coming up with enough stuff . . . ?
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Post by momrek06 on Feb 21, 2019 15:02:42 GMT
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Post by Imperfect1 on Feb 21, 2019 15:09:30 GMT
Does anyone know anything about psychology? I kind of wonder what would make someone fake a crime. Did he really think he wouldn't be caught? He was willing to risk his life and career for this. I don't get it. I don't know what his motivation was, but this new piece of information actually concerns me MORE! In 2007 he apparently tried to get out of a DUI charge by IDENTIFYING HIMSELF AS HIS OWN BROTHER!!! Who does that????? Who tries to blame his crime on his younger brother????? " A California misdemeanor complaint against Jussie Smollett shows the actor was accused of identifying himself as his younger brother in 2007 when a Los Angeles police officer pulled him over on suspicion of driving under the influence.
The misdemeanor complaint filed in Los Angeles Superior Court in September 2007 says that Smollett gave the name of his brother, Jake Smollett, when he was asked by an officer. He also signed a false name on the promise to appear in court. Smollett also was later charged with false impersonation, driving under the influence and driving without a valid license." www.apnews.com/b6e1fb91faa44d348bc9bdb45b681996
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Post by momrek06 on Feb 21, 2019 15:23:08 GMT
Wow, the Chicago Police Chief is so angry. Angry that Jussie would do something like this. Angry that Jussie choose to do this to the city of Chicago. Angry that Jussie would PAY to create this fake hate crime. The city came together and had over 20 CAMERAS in the area that helped them crack open this fake crime. ****The Police are saying Jussie Smollett "staged" this fake crime all because Jussie was UNHAPPY and DISSATISFIED with his salary.
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Post by betty80 on Feb 21, 2019 15:23:12 GMT
Does anyone know anything about psychology? I kind of wonder what would make someone fake a crime. Did he really think he wouldn't be caught? He was willing to risk his life and career for this. I don't get it. I don't know what his motivation was, but this new piece of information actually concerns me MORE! In 2007 he apparently tried to get out of a DUI charge by IDENTIFYING HIMSELF AS HIS OWN BROTHER!!! Who does that????? Who tries to blame his crime on his younger brother????? " A California misdemeanor complaint against Jussie Smollett shows the actor was accused of identifying himself as his younger brother in 2007 when a Los Angeles police officer pulled him over on suspicion of driving under the influence.
The misdemeanor complaint filed in Los Angeles Superior Court in September 2007 says that Smollett gave the name of his brother, Jake Smollett, when he was asked by an officer. He also signed a false name on the promise to appear in court. Smollett also was later charged with false impersonation, driving under the influence and driving without a valid license." www.apnews.com/b6e1fb91faa44d348bc9bdb45b681996 Oh my goodness! If he is found guilty, he needs to go to jail but he also needs help. It kinds of hurts that someone would go through all this effort to lie, especially when real crime victims have trouble getting justice. I don't watch Empire and I don't know a lot about Jussie, but this is so disappointing.
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Post by betty80 on Feb 21, 2019 15:28:58 GMT
JUSSIE SMOLLETT MUG SHOT RELEASED Cops About to Explain Arrest"The Police Superintendent just expressed his outrage at Jussie Smollett for allegedly betraying the African American and LGBT communities to further his career in a "publicity stunt." The Superintendent just said Smollett created the ruse because "he was dissatisfied with his salary."" I am African American, so I understand how he betrayed us, but I also think he betrayed everyone. Police resources were used to investigate this while others in the community may have needed them. This makes me sick.
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Post by momrek06 on Feb 21, 2019 15:32:45 GMT
JUSSIE SMOLLETT MUG SHOT RELEASED Cops About to Explain Arrest"The Police Superintendent just expressed his outrage at Jussie Smollett for allegedly betraying the African American and LGBT communities to further his career in a "publicity stunt." The Superintendent just said Smollett created the ruse because "he was dissatisfied with his salary."" I am African American, so I understand how he betrayed us, but I also think he betrayed everyone. Police resources were used to investigate this while others in the community may have needed them. This makes me sick. betty80 I am not sure if you are watching this news conference but YES, oh boy, the Superintendent is DISGUSTED with JS'. Upset. Angry. Annoyed. The Police have the CHECK that JS paid the brothers. JS self inflicted the scratches on his face. OH MY ... this is so bad.
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Post by momrek06 on Feb 21, 2019 15:36:07 GMT
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Post by mika06 on Feb 21, 2019 15:46:45 GMT
Ok the cops are saying he paid them with a check sorry but something reads wrong about their story too, and I'm officially off this story. If he did this he's clearly mentally ill otherwise it's a possible set up by the 2 "accomplices"
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Post by AZChristian on Feb 21, 2019 16:30:11 GMT
If he was unhappy with his salary before this fiasco, he's going to be REAL unhappy with facing the results of his decision . . . he deserves to be fired.
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Post by lonnie on Feb 21, 2019 16:30:21 GMT
The media might want to wait with some of these stories before passing judgement, until more facts come out. A hat wearer gets labeled as a racist for smirking. Then the whole story comes out that it was a hate group known as the black hebrew israelites who were harrassing and making racist comments towards the hat wearer. Now the hat wearer has filed a lawsuit against one of the news publications.
Jussie's story was filled with holes right from the start. Not only did he come up with a false attack, he specifically chose to make it into a fake hate crime. There could be mental illness going on. Maybe he has some hatred towards other races, who knows. As more info comes out, he comes off as more and more unlikeable though.
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Post by betty80 on Feb 21, 2019 16:38:31 GMT
I would like to find another celebrity story, but the only other big story is about the Kardashians. They annoy me.
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Post by Cuddles on Feb 21, 2019 17:24:30 GMT
How about the Jen Aniston one?! Did you hear about her and Courtney (and others I believe) having to burn off fuel in their private plane so they could attempt a landing? I would have been a wreck!
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Post by acookertv on Feb 21, 2019 17:33:16 GMT
How about the Jen Aniston one?! Did you hear about her and Courtney (and others I believe) having to burn off fuel in their private plane so they could attempt a landing? I would have been a wreck! It's also been reported that for her 50th birthday Courtney Cox and some other friends bought Jen a potters wheel and an antique table! AND there are reports that Jen and John Mayer have been quietly hanging out together quite a bit.
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Post by betty80 on Feb 21, 2019 17:35:39 GMT
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Post by Amy Lee on Feb 21, 2019 17:36:50 GMT
I would like to find another celebrity story, but the only other big story is about the Kardashians. They annoy me. Don't get me started on that one. I honestly dont believe the way they're saying things happened. Ok the cops are saying he paid them with a check sorry but something reads wrong about their story too, and I'm officially off this story. If he did this he's clearly mentally ill otherwise it's a possible set up by the 2 "accomplices" That doesn't even make sense.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 21, 2019 17:38:38 GMT
If he was unhappy with his salary before this fiasco, he's going to be REAL unhappy with facing the results of his decision . . . he deserves to be fired. Yup, very unhappy. This story gets worse every day..maybe he's just an @ss. www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5027627
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Post by pikachu on Feb 21, 2019 18:29:25 GMT
I'm so dismayed about the news of Jussie Smollett. He's so talented so why would he do something like this? If it's true, he certainly didn't help his career with this stunt. He might well have killed it. All the same, I hope Empire doesn't replace him or end his storyline. Considering that on the show the Lyons have done things outside the law, I would hope they could give him another chance and keep him on the show. If he is lucky enough to return, I hope there are no future hijinks. I'm sure he can find legitimate means to supplement his income if he isn't happy with his salary on the show. Work on a new album! Look for movie deals! Do some interviews! WHATEVER! As a last resort, start a GoFundMe account.
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Post by lonnie on Feb 21, 2019 18:31:41 GMT
I forgot to add that being an actor and all, you think he could have came up with a more believable story.
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Post by pikachu on Feb 21, 2019 18:33:49 GMT
He'd need a writer to make up that more believable story. Maybe he got too enwrapped in his role on Empire and thinks he's Jamal Lyon in real life. He's waiting for Lucious to get him out of this now.
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Post by lonnie on Feb 21, 2019 18:36:56 GMT
I don't think he'll be staying on the show, unless they want it to be cancelled fast. lol
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Post by waywyrd on Feb 21, 2019 20:02:17 GMT
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Post by Kao on Feb 21, 2019 20:21:47 GMT
I don't know who to believe. If he did this he deserves all the criticism he's getting. On the other hand, the Chicago Police Department are known for being liars, committing crimes, framing people, etc. It's also entirely possible that the brothers could have lied about Jessie's involvement to save their own skins. Since the brothers were training Jussie that check could have been for literally anything.
I also think it's really gross that the same people crowing over this were basically silent when Ryan Lochte lied on an entire country and staged a mugging in Brazil.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 21, 2019 20:29:58 GMT
I don't know who to believe. If he did this he deserves all the criticism he's getting. On the other hand, the Chicago Police Department are known for being liars, committing crimes, framing people, etc. It's also entirely possible that the brothers could have lied about Jessie's involvement to save their own skins. Since the brothers were training Jussie that check could have been for literally anything. I also think it's really gross that the same people crowing over this were basically silent when Ryan Lochte lied on an entire country and staged a mugging in Brazil. I was silent on neither. If you use up police resources by lying, you pay! I'd be very angry if I were the CPD!
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Post by Amy Lee on Feb 21, 2019 20:30:08 GMT
Ryan Lochte is a complete pos and a loser for that. Its funny that you mention that incident. I was actually just thinking about it earlier this week.
I'm curious to see the finality with Jussie Smollett. I'm a big fan of his sister, Jurnee.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 21, 2019 20:32:21 GMT
Yes, very messy. I didn't hear about this in 2016..
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Post by libgirl2 on Feb 21, 2019 20:56:42 GMT
The chief of police said this
"Why would anyone, especially an African-American man, use the symbolism of a noose to make false accusations? How could someone look at the hatred and suffering associated with that symbol and see an opportunity to manipulate that symbol to further his own public profile?"
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Post by Cuddles on Feb 21, 2019 21:20:42 GMT
This story continues to confuse me. So what if the brothers bought those things and it was seen on video. That doesn't implicate Jussie. And so what if there is a check for a measly amount. That doesn't implicate Jussie. After all, if this were true, wouldn't they have demanded a huge sum knowing they risked getting caught and jailed? And didn't the amount of suffering that was alleged to have occurred indicate they were only there to humiliate him? Seems plausible that they would do that. And that wouldn't implicate Jussie. Maybe they are banking on the police believing their story because if this had been a real hate crime... if they had real deep-seated anger - they were certainly big enough to beat him to smithereens. I can't explain all of it, but there is enough of it that just still seems so fishy to me.
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Post by acookertv on Feb 21, 2019 21:36:33 GMT
This story continues to confuse me. So what if the brothers bought those things and it was seen on video. That doesn't implicate Jussie. And so what if there is a check for a measly amount. That doesn't implicate Jussie. After all, if this were true, wouldn't they have demanded a huge sum knowing they risked getting caught and jailed? And didn't the amount of suffering that was alleged to have occurred indicate they were only there to humiliate him? Seems plausible that they would do that. And that wouldn't implicate Jussie. Maybe they are banking on the police believing their story because if this had been a real hate crime... if they had real deep-seated anger - they were certainly big enough to beat him to smithereens. I can't explain all of it, but there is enough of it that just still seems so fishy to me. As has been said by others, with the reputation of the Chicago PD, it's reasonable to question how much can be trusted. That said, if proper police work was done, they don't merely take the word of someone as sufficient evidence - they would do additional work to verify the claims. For example, a check could be evaluated for Smollet's hand writing and finger prints. If they are there, it implicates him ... if not, it would call into question the brothers story. There is a lot about Smollet's story which raised questions. The investigation kept going because when they looked at evidence to support the story, there continued to be holes. Police work, when it's done right, is not going to be the "I like / don't like this person I believe it" like we tend to do. They have a lot more tools at their disposal.
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Post by Cuddles on Feb 21, 2019 21:48:19 GMT
They were trainers. He could have paid them that sum of money for training. His handwriting and prints are inconsequential.
I continue to question where the truth lies.
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