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Post by MissGriss on Mar 15, 2019 3:01:26 GMT
I feel bad for Olivia Jade. She had developed a successful career at a young age and didn't even want to go to college or not to a fancy one, anyway. And now her parents' meddling is going to destroy the success she had. (I don't know how much she knew, but even if she did know something was up and went along with it, I still blame her parents most.) Lori's sure paying through the teeth with Hallmark cancelling all of her current projects and no longer showing anything she's been in. That's a lot of income lost, especially in residuals. This could totally ruin her financially no matter what happens legally. (Guess she might not need her passport to travel to Canada for filming, after all.) On a lighter note, did you hear about Chrissy Teigen's Twitter picture with their faces Photoshopped onto soccer players and the caption: "Does this look real? We are trying to get into Harvard." Too funny!
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Post by ccl on Mar 15, 2019 3:24:30 GMT
Lori Loughlin and husband will be fine financially. He sold his clothing company for many millions a decade ago, and she’s got the money made over the years in the entertainment industry. If they can spend 500 grand to get their kids into college they have money to spare. But it will hurt on a personal level with regards to reputation etc. Olivia Jade may lose a few sponsorships now but she’ll parlay the notoriety just as Kim Kardashian used her sex tape “scandal” to start her “career”. Whereas Lori Loughlin will have a tougher time of it, not being seen as hireable by Hallmark and the likes.
I don’t know, I just don’t see how it is in any way worse than Daddy Kushner buying his kid’s way into Harvard etc. This is not new. Except I guess that way the school itself got the money whereas in this “scheme” the recruiters and school employees like coaches were the ones getting paid. But we haven’t lived in a meritocracy in, like, ever.
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Post by Kao on Mar 15, 2019 4:13:20 GMT
Apparently Olivia Jade was cced in quite a few of the emails that her mom sent the scammer dude so there goes the "she's innocent! She didn't know!" line of thinking. Apparently the poor dear couldn't figure out how to write a statement of purpose, or how to upload her forms...
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Post by JoRyMom on Mar 15, 2019 4:14:47 GMT
But okay, when these kids and parents scam their way into one of these schools with tougher academics, what then? If all they care about is ‘game days and partying,’ who is pulling the grades? Makes ya wonder.
This whole story has really bugged me. My youngest son dreamt all his life of going to one particular, fairly large university. He was admitted into one of their programs where he goes to one of their system schools his freshman year (current) and maintains a 3.0, he then will get automatic admission to the main campus his sophomore year. He worked his butt off and got a 4.0 last semester, and is looking great again this semester. He was so disappointed when he didn’t get admitted as a freshman, but set his mind to do what he needs to do to get where he wants to be. And he knows his dad and I are here to help him if needed (legally, of course 😛.)
Off topic, my hubby is a big college football fan and last fall we went to games at both USC and ASU. Give me the ASU crowd any day! Much more ‘my people.’ LOL I totally see Shannon Beador fitting in with the USC folks. I guess her girls will have to get in the old fashioned way. 😉
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Post by lonnie on Mar 15, 2019 4:36:35 GMT
Is Lori a regular on that Full House spinoff or does she just make appearances once in a while? I haven't seen it yet.
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Post by Critical on Mar 15, 2019 5:01:29 GMT
Lori Loughlin and husband will be fine financially. He sold his clothing company for many millions a decade ago, and she’s got the money made over the years in the entertainment industry. If they can spend 500 grand to get their kids into college they have money to spare. But it will hurt on a personal level with regards to reputation etc. Olivia Jade may lose a few sponsorships now but she’ll parlay the notoriety just as Kim Kardashian used her sex tape “scandal” to start her “career”. Whereas Lori Loughlin will have a tougher time of it, not being seen as hireable by Hallmark and the likes. I don’t know, I just don’t see how it is in any way worse than Daddy Kushner buying his kid’s way into Harvard etc. This is not new. Except I guess that way the school itself got the money whereas in this “scheme” the recruiters and school employees like coaches were the ones getting paid. But we haven’t lived in a meritocracy in, like, ever. I don't think anyone has said that. IMO, it's ALL terrible. Unfortunately though, there aren't any charges (yet *crosses fingers*) against Kushner's father. It's definitely not a new story, although I think the fact that this was all perpetuated through one company is probably unusual. Rich parents buying their kids' way into a prestigious university is an old story. Doesn't make it right, but it exists and has gone unchecked (or at least seriously uninvestigated) up until now. Maybe this will change things ![:shrug](//storage.proboards.com/6943657/images/UjEYIawKr0DSmqWzXgnU.gif)
LL and fam have money NOW, but how much will they have in a few years when the money from the fashion company sale is gone and she's not getting acting gigs? I have no idea how much money she made from those Hallmark gigs, but it had to be a respectable amount of money, especially considering she did the movie series too and had the producing credit on WCTH.
lonnie - yes, LL is in Fuller House. I've never seen it, so I have no idea if she's a regular or just pops in as a guest star. IIRC, it was just canceled. Not sure if they're done filming that season though.
Yeah JoRyMom, I don't know how they expect their kid to keep up at these rigorous universities if their parents need to buy their way in.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 15, 2019 5:01:29 GMT
Apparently Olivia Jade was cced in quite a few of the emails that her mom sent the scammer dude so there goes the "she's innocent! She didn't know!" line of thinking. Apparently the poor dear couldn't figure out how to write a statement of purpose, or how to upload her forms... That was going to be my question, if they knew, but I see they did... ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png)
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Post by JoRyMom on Mar 15, 2019 5:08:33 GMT
Just saw Lori is off Fuller House as well.
The last few days, all chatter has seemed to shift to Lori’s family. What about Felicity Huffman? I actually haven’t seen much on their specific case, except how it’s strange William H. Macy wasn’t charged as well. What school does/did their kid attend? Anyone know?
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Post by Critical on Mar 15, 2019 5:29:19 GMT
Just saw Lori is off Fuller House as well. The last few days, all chatter has seemed to shift to Lori’s family. What about Felicity Huffman? I actually haven’t seen much on their specific case, except how it’s strange William H. Macy wasn’t charged as well. What school does/did their kid attend? Anyone know? I saw a story mention that WHM was not being charged (don't think there's a "yet" there) because of something do with what was said in the communications the investigators had. IIRC, it was Felicity who took the lead on things AND it might have been WHM who decided against them doing the same thing for their younger daughter. They can only charge people against whom they have evidence, so even if they think a person is involved, it's a bit of a waste of time to charge someone when they know they don't have a case. I'd guess that if they DO find evidence, more charges will come.
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Post by justCoz on Mar 15, 2019 5:42:58 GMT
Lori Loughlin and husband will be fine financially. He sold his clothing company for many millions a decade ago, and she’s got the money made over the years in the entertainment industry. If they can spend 500 grand to get their kids into college they have money to spare. But it will hurt on a personal level with regards to reputation etc. Olivia Jade may lose a few sponsorships now but she’ll parlay the notoriety just as Kim Kardashian used her sex tape “scandal” to start her “career”. Whereas Lori Loughlin will have a tougher time of it, not being seen as hireable by Hallmark and the likes. I don’t know, I just don’t see how it is in any way worse than Daddy Kushner buying his kid’s way into Harvard etc. This is not new. Except I guess that way the school itself got the money whereas in this “scheme” the recruiters and school employees like coaches were the ones getting paid. But we haven’t lived in a meritocracy in, like, ever. Because that is not a crime, whereas what these others are accused of is a crime. The articles I've read that referenced it said that donating large sums of money towards a college is more expensive, and not a guarantee, but also legal. So these indicted parents spent less money for a guarantee of their kids getting in, while committing fraud to do it.
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Post by MissGriss on Mar 15, 2019 6:38:15 GMT
Just saw Lori is off Fuller House as well. The last few days, all chatter has seemed to shift to Lori’s family. What about Felicity Huffman? I actually haven’t seen much on their specific case, except how it’s strange William H. Macy wasn’t charged as well. What school does/did their kid attend? Anyone know? In terms of dollar amounts, what Felicity Huffman did was way less. She paid $12,500 (I think) to get them to allow her daughter more time on her test (like taking it over a two-day period); but the test score went up by 400 points which seems pretty fishy, so folks are suspicious of that. But you'd think it would have cost a lot more than that to get someone to doctors the answers, so who knows. I think Wm Macy was on a phone call about doing the same for the younger daughter; but since they didn't go through with that, there's nothing to charge him with. I wonder if there's any relativity when it comes to amounts and degrees of things done. Cheating is cheating and breaking the law is breaking the law, so maybe not. Anybody know how that works?
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Post by acookertv on Mar 15, 2019 9:52:00 GMT
The headlines about the yacht trip bother me because they are very misleading and paint Olivia in a light that she does not deserve to be in. She is very close friends with the board members daughter. They went away for spring break together and were on the yacht as part of that trip. To me, the headlines read like this co-ed was hooking up with a rich board member with a yacht. The truth of two rich college girls going on a yacht at spring break is a MUCH different story. The thing is, it really doesn't matter what the truth is. It's about perception. That man is a member of the Board of Trustees at USC. Regardless of whether or not his daughter an Olivia are friends, it's not appropriate for him to host ANY students (his daughter notwithstanding, obviously) at USC on his yacht unless in the context of an official university function. It speaks to his poor judgment and a lack of common sense. It gives the appearance that certain students receive preferential treatment....or, rather, it confirms the fact that certain students receive preferential treatment. He had to have known how the media would spin things and how it would look for him and for the students involved and, for me, it's a reason for the university to ask for him to resign from the BoT.
SO, LL and her husband paid at least $500K (some stories I read indicated it was $500K per daughter, others indicated it was $500K for both) to cheat the system and now she's out of a quite lucrative job and neither of her daughters are students at USC and will probably have a very difficult time getting into any other university. ASU isn't looking so bad now, is it, you elitist snobs? (and ASU is a good school, for the record). I hope they saved their money because they're not going to get hired for anything now. Actually, I have a few Mossimo sweaters from target that I like very much. I went a few months ago to buy another one and couldn't find ANY Mossimo sweaters on the Target site. I haven't checked back since, but I wondered if Target ended their relationship with him. I did like those sweaters...
Those girls should do themselves a favor and stay OUT of the public eye for a good long time. Maybe spend some time focusing on something other than themselves - volunteer at a homeless shelter, a community outreach program, a suicide hotline, etc. Perhaps they can enroll in an online education program and actually learn something. I hope LL and her husband learned something: you can't expect your children to aspire to a college education if nothing about how you raise them shows that you value education. Those Christmas haul videos Olivia has done on YouTube are a study in spoiled entitlement. At least if she kept those designer purses and shoes in good condition she'll be able to sell them and make some money. I have a feeling more sponsors will be dropping her in the coming days....
I disagree. The child of a board member should be allowed to have friends who are also students and hang out with them. (and headline writers should write headlines that don't imply those friends are banging their dad). Further, if we're defining social interaction with leadership to be preferential treatment, it happens often. Board members attend events where select students are in attendance. University presidents sometimes honor select students with an invitation to dinners and other events giving networking opportunities Deans and department heads do the same thing. I don't think all of that should be eliminated out of a fear of a misconception of favoritism. And lets not lose sight here that the scandal involving Olivia at USC is not that she used her friendship with a board members daughter to get in - it's that her parents paid $500,000 to get the athletic dept to pretend she was a rower when she's not. All that aside, what I object to is headline writers who used click bait headlines in a gossip world where yachting means high class call girl to link a girl in the middle of controversy to an older man. That's pouring gasoline on a fire, and I find it irresponsible and disgusting.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Mar 15, 2019 12:54:07 GMT
Yes, Olivia will always have her family's money, but if CRIMINAL CHARGES are filed against her (as they well may be) and she ends up with a CRIMINAL RECORD --- that will change the trajectory of her life in a major way. I thought Olivia dropped out to avoid being investigated. Several of the articles have said that both girls decided to 'withdraw' from school because they were afraid they would be 'viciously bullied' if they returned to school. But I'm pretty sure that wouldn't stop the university from officially expelling them, and perhaps even filing civil and/or criminal charges against the girls. The girls haven't been criminally or civilly charged YET, but criminal charges and civil lawsuits are already in process against the parents, so the daughters may also have the same fate if it can be proven that they were knowledgeable about, and acted on, any part of the scheme. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6811135/Loris-Loughlins-daughters-Olivia-Isabella-quit-USC.htmlApparently, the university is in process of investigating all of its options. And that doesn't even speak to all of the coming lawsuits against the school(s) and the scheme participants, that are going to be filed by various members of the public who are, in some way 'victims' of their acts. www.etonline.com/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-others-sued-by-angry-parent-for-500-billion-over-college-admissions
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Post by Kao on Mar 15, 2019 13:58:50 GMT
But okay, when these kids and parents scam their way into one of these schools with tougher academics, what then? If all they care about is ‘game days and partying,’ who is pulling the grades? Makes ya wonder. This whole story has really bugged me. My youngest son dreamt all his life of going to one particular, fairly large university. He was admitted into one of their programs where he goes to one of their system schools his freshman year (current) and maintains a 3.0, he then will get automatic admission to the main campus his sophomore year. He worked his butt off and got a 4.0 last semester, and is looking great again this semester. He was so disappointed when he didn’t get admitted as a freshman, but set his mind to do what he needs to do to get where he wants to be. And he knows his dad and I are here to help him if needed (legally, of course 😛.) Off topic, my hubby is a big college football fan and last fall we went to games at both USC and ASU. Give me the ASU crowd any day! Much more ‘my people.’ LOL I totally see Shannon Beador fitting in with the USC folks. I guess her girls will have to get in the old fashioned way. 😉 Some of the parents actually hired people to take classes/tests for their children, while the kids partied it up. All of it is gross.
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Post by kiz on Mar 15, 2019 15:35:29 GMT
This is merely idle gossip. According Loughlin's daughter, her father lied to his parents about attending college, using their tuition money to start his design business. He emailed this flippsnt remark about Arizona State. That happens to be the university Loughlin's first husband attended and actually graduated. Coincidence, I think not. ---- "Giannulli wrote to a cooperating witness in 2016, copying Loughlin on the email: "We just met with (our older daughter's) college counselor this am. I'd like to maybe sit with you after your session with the girls as I have some concerns and want to fully understand the game plan and make sure we have a roadmap for success as it relates to (our daughter) and getting her into a school other than ASU!" --- www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-education/2019/03/12/asu-mentioned-university-bribery-scandal-court-documents-lori-loughlin/3141574002/
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Post by ibot2much on Mar 15, 2019 15:46:54 GMT
Saw the USC identified 6 applications in the "current admissions cycle" that are associated with the fraud and have denied them admission.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 15, 2019 16:41:29 GMT
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Post by betty80 on Mar 15, 2019 16:45:11 GMT
I wonder if he will stand by his wife or move on with his life with his daughters.
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Post by momrek06 on Mar 15, 2019 16:51:00 GMT
Saw the USC identified 6 applications in the "current admissions cycle" that are associated with the fraud and have denied them admission. And I am guessing Singer gave the FBI all that information. FBI just has to look through all Singer's files and its there. From what I understand the more information Singer tells the FBI about the case, the lighter a sentence he is hoping to get. Now from what I have read Singer is looking at 65 years. So maybe the FBI will shave a few years off. Singer will certainly serve allot of time. It's not like he would ever get probation or a sentence of 10 years. It will still be a substantial amount of time. Singer bragged to one parent he has been doing this for 24 years.
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Post by momrek06 on Mar 15, 2019 16:53:09 GMT
I wonder if he will stand by his wife or move on with his life with his daughters. I know nothing about them personally, obviously, but they have been together forever. If I were to guess, WHM will stay by FH's side through thick or thin.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 15, 2019 18:11:56 GMT
I wonder if he will stand by his wife or move on with his life with his daughters. I know nothing about them personally, obviously, but they have been together forever. If I were to guess, WHM will stay by FH's side through thick or thin. I do as well, it's always seemed to me, they've had a very strong marriage..
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Post by libgirl2 on Mar 15, 2019 18:24:58 GMT
I know nothing about them personally, obviously, but they have been together forever. If I were to guess, WHM will stay by FH's side through thick or thin. I do as well, it's always seemed to me, they've had a very strong marriage.. I think so too but I'm sure he isn't terribly happy with her right now.
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Post by momrek06 on Mar 15, 2019 18:40:39 GMT
I do as well, it's always seemed to me, they've had a very strong marriage.. I think so too but I'm sure he isn't terribly happy with her right now. The whole family, daughters as well are probably devastated and totally deflated right now BUT come on.......you play with fire as the saying goes. I mean they and all the people involved in this SCAM are probably beyond shocked they were caught. Devastated what is happening to themselves and to their families. AND scared to death as to what is ahead for them. Some of these allegations call for some serious jail time. (From what I understand they even have recordings of the defendants making the ILLEGAL deals.) I just cannot see CELEBRITY and MONEY helping them AT ALL.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 15, 2019 19:01:05 GMT
Joely Fisher made a comment about how she can almost understand why her co-star would do such a thing, because she personally would do anything for her kid.
Well yeah, but doing something like this ISN'T for the kid, it's for you. That's the sticking point to all of this. People aren't seeing this for what it really is - it wasn't about the kids, it was about the parents.
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Post by momrek06 on Mar 15, 2019 20:48:17 GMT
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Post by betty80 on Mar 15, 2019 20:54:09 GMT
Former Oakland teacher files $500 billion lawsuit in college admissions cheating scandal"Former Oakland teacher files $500 billion lawsuit in college admissions cheating scandal By Hannah Fry Los Angeles Times (TNS) Mar 15, 2019 Updated 1 hr ago An Oakland woman filed a $500 billion class-action lawsuit this week against two Hollywood actresses and dozens of other wealthy parents accused of paying hefty sums to bribe college coaches or doctor exam scores to secure their children’s admission to elite universities. Jennifer Kay Toy, who previously taught in the Oakland Unified School District, alleges in the lawsuit filed in San Francisco County Superior Court that the actions of those implicated in the scheme prevented her son, Joshua Toy, from being admitted to several colleges ensnared in the scandal. She wrote in the filing that her son worked hard and graduated from high school with a 4.2 GPA but was still rejected from some of the colleges. “Joshua and I beleived (sic) that he’d had a fair chance just like all other applicants but did not make the cut for some undisclosed reason,” she wrote in the lawsuit. “I’m now outraged and hurt because I feel that my son, my only child, was denied access to a college not because he failed to work and study hard enough but because wealthy individuals felt that it was ok to lie, cheat, steal and bribe their children’s way into a good college.” Actresses Lori Loughlin, Felicity Huffman and Loughlin’s husband, famed fashion designer Mossimo Giannulli, along with dozens of other people charged in the criminal case, are named in the lawsuit. The court filing does not specify the colleges where her son applied or when he submitted his applications. The lawsuit estimates that “due to the length and breadth of the cheating scam,” more than 1 million people have been affected. The filing follows the revelation that celebrities, corporate executives, investment bankers, business owners, top-tier lawyers and even a bestselling author of parenting books allegedly participated in an audacious scheme to get their children into elite universities in the largest college admissions scandal ever prosecuted. Federal authorities on Tuesday announced 50 people had been charged for their alleged roles in the scheme. This isn’t the first lawsuit to be filed in connection with the criminal probe. Two Stanford University students on Wednesday filed a federal class-action lawsuit against Stanford, USC, UCLA, the University of San Diego, the University of Texas at Austin, Wake Forest University, Yale University and Georgetown University. The students allege the rigged system denied them a fair chance to matriculate at the elite institutions and could tarnish their degrees from Stanford. The sweeping criminal investigation, which came to light earlier this week, alleges that wealthy parents from different parts of the country sought out Newport Beach businessman William Singer with one overriding goal: to get their children into the best colleges. Singer, who owns the admissions company called the Edge College & Career Network, said he had built a “side door” into USC and other highly sought-after universities and could help their children walk through. In phone conversations with parents secretly recorded by agents, Singer boasted that in just two years, he had helped more than 850 students of the wealthy and powerful to lie their way into colleges. Authorities said that in some of the cases known to investigators, the children were aware of the con carried out on their behalf, but that others were kept in the dark by their parents. Singer ran his ploy through Key Worldwide Foundation, a charity he started in 2012, prosecutors said in court papers. The organization’s mission was “to provide education that would normally be unattainable to underprivileged students,” according to paperwork. In reality, Singer used the foundation to collect payments from parents and pay bribes, court records show. Because they were writing checks — or in at least one case, transferring stock in Facebook — to a charity, parents were able to write off their payments to Singer as tax deductions, authorities said." ——— ©2019 Los Angeles Times Visit the Los Angeles Times at www.latimes.comDistributed by Tribune Content Agency, LLC.
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Post by betty80 on Mar 15, 2019 20:56:41 GMT
I just wonder how if this investigation will get bigger or lead to other investigations. There must be more cheaters panicking right now wondering if or when they will get caught.
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Post by libgirl2 on Mar 15, 2019 20:59:36 GMT
I think 500 billion is a bit "overdone" .
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Post by betty80 on Mar 15, 2019 21:26:18 GMT
Have any of the people indicted publicly apologized?
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Post by justCoz on Mar 15, 2019 21:32:40 GMT
Have any of the people indicted publicly apologized? I would imagine that their attorneys will have advised them against that.
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