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Post by sweetmermaid1 on Apr 11, 2019 4:46:34 GMT
Yeah, pardon me if I don't feel bad for the beautiful rich girls LL's daughters are not experiencing bullying. What they're experiencing is public shaming, which they richly deserve, especially Olivia. That vapid, shallow, proudly uneducated kid goes online and openly talks about how she doesn't want to study or go to college and now she's shocked that people are angry? She's probably grown up in a big hugbox where she was told that everything she did was wonderful and beautiful and she never had to do anything that she didn't want to do. There's NO way she didn't know what her parents were doing, even if she's now feigning ignorance. I've got no sympathy for any of them.
I have a cousin who's a USC grad and he got in on his own merits and busted his tail to get his degree. Shame on anyone who thinks they should get in - or get their child in - by cheating or throwing their money around.
It might have been TMZ who wrote about LL harming her own case by acting all light and happy in public and signing autographs. Any judge who sees that will be more likely to bring down the hammer. She should be laying low and not acting like she doesn't have a care in the world because a judge could interpret her behavior as not taking her situation seriously. If she's acting like she's going to get out of this, a judge might make sure she doesn't.
Totally agree. USC says they will not allow the girls to drop out until USC has settled their cases .... pagesix.com/2019/04/10/lori-loughlins-daughters-not-allowed-to-withdraw-from-usc/ .... BUT again I completely understand them not going anywhere near campus. As they know they will get stared at.......insulted......public shamed.......harassed.......bullied.......or whatever one wants to call it. I agree Critical that they richly deserve it!!! Because #1) they are RICH #2) they are CELEBRITIES and the world loathes those people who have it ALL and then CHEAT the system while all the "little" people bust their arses to get into VERY VERY SELECTIVE colleges such as USC. I actually believe they just don't get the seriousness of this situation. There are paps video's out there right now of LL and the other daughter in Hollywood laughing like hyena's over something. Its like I posted upthread and Critical said in her post above .... they are HURTING their case. And why they did not take that plea deal is beyond me. pagesix.com/2019/04/09/lori-loughlin-and-husband-fighting-charges-to-avoid-prison/Just TONIGHT on Don Lemon they were discussing this case and the lawyers are discussing "white privilege" and celebrities. It seems that "Aunt Becky" has lost any common sense touch with reality. Her and her husband's money got her into this situation and I'm pretty sure she's betting it will get her out of it. She's (hopefully) in for a rude wake up call.
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Post by Arielflies on Apr 11, 2019 5:30:59 GMT
www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/lori-loughlin-didnt-believe-shed-face-prison-time-expected-a-slap-on-the-wrist/ar-BBVOobx?ocid=spartandhpLori Loughlin is starting to come to terms with the new charges against her. A day after Loughlin and her husband, Mossimo Giannulli, were indicted in a second superseding indictment on conspiring to commit fraud and money laundering, a source tells ET that, up until this point, Loughlin didn't believe she would face the possibility of serving time in prison. Despite fearing the prospect of jail, the source claims Loughlin didn't truly believe it could happen to her. Loughlin and Giannulli are accused of paying $500,000 in bribes to get their daughters -- Olivia, 19, and Bella, 20 -- admitted to the University of Southern California as recruits for the crew team, even though neither of them participated in the sport. "Lori still believed in the end she would just get a slap on the wrist," the source says. "At this point she is getting complete clarity and she’s scared and in terrible shape." "The reality of this situation has finally hit her like a ton of bricks," the source adds. "It wasn’t until she was faced with additional charges that she saw the true ramifications." The charge of conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and honest services mail and wire fraud provides for a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison, three years of supervised release, and a fine of $250,000 or twice the gross gain or loss, whichever is greater. The charge of conspiracy to commit money laundering provides for a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison, three years of supervised release, and a fine of $500,000 or twice the value of the property involved in the money laundering. Ultimately, if convicted and then sentenced to the maximum extent of the law, Loughlin could face up to 40 years in jail. Although, most experts agree that the chance of sentencing that severe is almost nonexistent. "She is going through the worst time of her life," ET's source says of Loughlin. "It feels like her whole world is falling apart. She is putting all her trust in her team and her lawyers, and hoping for the best." As for her daughters, the source says that Olivia, a YouTube star, is still "attempting to process" the situation, while Bella "has stood by her parents." "Olivia blames her mother and claims she always will," the source says. "Olivia isn’t ready to forgive and has continued to distance herself. She is attempting to process all of this. And trying to work on ways to rebuild her business on her own without her parents' help." "Isabella, while she is mortified and very hurt by all this, has stood by her parents," the source continues. "She knows her mom needs her right now." The source also adds that Loughlin's close friends "are incredibly concerned and feel the entire situation should have been handled differently." "They believe she should have taken the plea when offered," the source says of Loughlin, who, along with Giannulli, reportedly initially rejected any plea agreements. "Her closest friends have warned her she needs to be more humble and worry she’s been misled through this process," the source adds. "There seems to be a certain belief among her people she is above all of this and everything will be just fine. And it’s becoming more and more evident that is not the case." Additionally, the source says that Loughlin's friends "feel she should have taken the same route" as Felicity Huffman, who was also charged in the scandal, and "apologized profusely." "They begged her to take the plea, but she truly didn’t feel it was necessary," the source says. "This isn’t the value system of most of her friends and some of those closest to her, who have stood by her from the beginning, are now starting to distance themselves." Earlier this week, Huffman, who allegedly paid $15,000 to help get her and husband William H. Macy's eldest daughter, 18-year-old Sofia, into an elite college by cheating on the SAT, pleaded guilty to the charges of mail fraud and honest services mail fraud. "I am pleading guilty to the charge brought against me by the United States Attorney's Office," Huffman said in a statement. "I am in full acceptance of my guilt, and with deep regret and shame over what I have done, I accept full responsibility for my actions and will accept the consequences that stem from those actions." "I am ashamed of the pain I have caused my daughter, my family, my friends, my colleagues and the educational community," the statement continued. "I want to apologize to them and, especially, I want to apologize to the students who work hard every day to get into college, and to their parents who make tremendous sacrifices to support their children and do so honestly. My daughter knew absolutely nothing about my actions, and in my misguided and profoundly wrong way, I have betrayed her. This transgression toward her and the public I will carry for the rest of my life. My desire to help my daughter is no excuse to break the law or engage in dishonesty." In Huffman's case, along with the 13 individuals who are also pleading guilty, the US Attorney is recommending incarceration at the low end of the sentencing guidelines, a fine or other financial penalty of $20,000 and 12 months supervised release. Additionally, the US Attorney is recommending a mandatory special assessment of $100 and restitution in an amount to be determined by the court at sentencing and forfeiture. Huffman's plea hearing has been set for May 21. "Things have been very difficult for Felicity," a source previously told ET. "This has been one of the most trying times in her life." Earlier this week, Rachel Stockman of the Law & Crime Network told ET that, if Loughlin and/or Huffman end up serving jail time, it would likely be at a minimum security facility. "Based on these charges and the fact that they have not been in legal trouble before, and the fact that, probably, they are not a security risk, they'll probably be at a minimum security prison," Stockman speculated. "Very similar to the one Martha Stewart spent time at."
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Post by Kao on Apr 11, 2019 6:24:50 GMT
www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/lori-loughlin-didnt-believe-shed-face-prison-time-expected-a-slap-on-the-wrist/ar-BBVOobx?ocid=spartandhpLori Loughlin is starting to come to terms with the new charges against her. A day after Loughlin and her husband, Mossimo Giannulli, were indicted in a second superseding indictment on conspiring to commit fraud and money laundering, a source tells ET that, up until this point, Loughlin didn't believe she would face the possibility of serving time in prison. Despite fearing the prospect of jail, the source claims Loughlin didn't truly believe it could happen to her. Loughlin and Giannulli are accused of paying $500,000 in bribes to get their daughters -- Olivia, 19, and Bella, 20 -- admitted to the University of Southern California as recruits for the crew team, even though neither of them participated in the sport. "Lori still believed in the end she would just get a slap on the wrist," the source says. "At this point she is getting complete clarity and she’s scared and in terrible shape." "The reality of this situation has finally hit her like a ton of bricks," the source adds. "It wasn’t until she was faced with additional charges that she saw the true ramifications." The charge of conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and honest services mail and wire fraud provides for a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison, three years of supervised release, and a fine of $250,000 or twice the gross gain or loss, whichever is greater. The charge of conspiracy to commit money laundering provides for a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison, three years of supervised release, and a fine of $500,000 or twice the value of the property involved in the money laundering. Ultimately, if convicted and then sentenced to the maximum extent of the law, Loughlin could face up to 40 years in jail. Although, most experts agree that the chance of sentencing that severe is almost nonexistent. "She is going through the worst time of her life," ET's source says of Loughlin. "It feels like her whole world is falling apart. She is putting all her trust in her team and her lawyers, and hoping for the best." As for her daughters, the source says that Olivia, a YouTube star, is still "attempting to process" the situation, while Bella "has stood by her parents." "Olivia blames her mother and claims she always will," the source says. "Olivia isn’t ready to forgive and has continued to distance herself. She is attempting to process all of this. And trying to work on ways to rebuild her business on her own without her parents' help." "Isabella, while she is mortified and very hurt by all this, has stood by her parents," the source continues. "She knows her mom needs her right now." The source also adds that Loughlin's close friends "are incredibly concerned and feel the entire situation should have been handled differently." "They believe she should have taken the plea when offered," the source says of Loughlin, who, along with Giannulli, reportedly initially rejected any plea agreements. "Her closest friends have warned her she needs to be more humble and worry she’s been misled through this process," the source adds. "There seems to be a certain belief among her people she is above all of this and everything will be just fine. And it’s becoming more and more evident that is not the case." Additionally, the source says that Loughlin's friends "feel she should have taken the same route" as Felicity Huffman, who was also charged in the scandal, and "apologized profusely." "They begged her to take the plea, but she truly didn’t feel it was necessary," the source says. "This isn’t the value system of most of her friends and some of those closest to her, who have stood by her from the beginning, are now starting to distance themselves." Earlier this week, Huffman, who allegedly paid $15,000 to help get her and husband William H. Macy's eldest daughter, 18-year-old Sofia, into an elite college by cheating on the SAT, pleaded guilty to the charges of mail fraud and honest services mail fraud. "I am pleading guilty to the charge brought against me by the United States Attorney's Office," Huffman said in a statement. "I am in full acceptance of my guilt, and with deep regret and shame over what I have done, I accept full responsibility for my actions and will accept the consequences that stem from those actions." "I am ashamed of the pain I have caused my daughter, my family, my friends, my colleagues and the educational community," the statement continued. "I want to apologize to them and, especially, I want to apologize to the students who work hard every day to get into college, and to their parents who make tremendous sacrifices to support their children and do so honestly. My daughter knew absolutely nothing about my actions, and in my misguided and profoundly wrong way, I have betrayed her. This transgression toward her and the public I will carry for the rest of my life. My desire to help my daughter is no excuse to break the law or engage in dishonesty." In Huffman's case, along with the 13 individuals who are also pleading guilty, the US Attorney is recommending incarceration at the low end of the sentencing guidelines, a fine or other financial penalty of $20,000 and 12 months supervised release. Additionally, the US Attorney is recommending a mandatory special assessment of $100 and restitution in an amount to be determined by the court at sentencing and forfeiture. Huffman's plea hearing has been set for May 21. "Things have been very difficult for Felicity," a source previously told ET. "This has been one of the most trying times in her life." Earlier this week, Rachel Stockman of the Law & Crime Network told ET that, if Loughlin and/or Huffman end up serving jail time, it would likely be at a minimum security facility. "Based on these charges and the fact that they have not been in legal trouble before, and the fact that, probably, they are not a security risk, they'll probably be at a minimum security prison," Stockman speculated. "Very similar to the one Martha Stewart spent time at." Of course she didn't, and she's not the only one; apparently 2/3 of the parents charged went against their lawyers advice to take the plea deal...and they're all now getting hit with the mail fraud charges. Depending on the amount of money spent, I doon't see any of them doing less than 5 years because once the Feds decide to make a point with you you're [redacted]. Just look at Wesley Snipes and Lauryn Hill...and that was just for income tax evasion!
Huffman is truly despicable because she actually paid someone to retake the SAT for her daughter. Meanwhile, an African-American student who bought test materials and tutoring and had her scores increase by 400 points the second time she took the test actually got her results thrown out because they didn't believe that she increased her score the old fashioned way--by studying. I hope all of these people get the book thrown at them.
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Post by acookertv on Apr 11, 2019 9:50:16 GMT
Yeah, pardon me if I don't feel bad for the beautiful rich girls LL's daughters are not experiencing bullying. What they're experiencing is public shaming, which they richly deserve, especially Olivia. That vapid, shallow, proudly uneducated kid goes online and openly talks about how she doesn't want to study or go to college and now she's shocked that people are angry? She's probably grown up in a big hugbox where she was told that everything she did was wonderful and beautiful and she never had to do anything that she didn't want to do. There's NO way she didn't know what her parents were doing, even if she's now feigning ignorance. I've got no sympathy for any of them.
I have a cousin who's a USC grad and he got in on his own merits and busted his tail to get his degree. Shame on anyone who thinks they should get in - or get their child in - by cheating or throwing their money around.
It might have been TMZ who wrote about LL harming her own case by acting all light and happy in public and signing autographs. Any judge who sees that will be more likely to bring down the hammer. She should be laying low and not acting like she doesn't have a care in the world because a judge could interpret her behavior as not taking her situation seriously. If she's acting like she's going to get out of this, a judge might make sure she doesn't.
So at what point do we decide that a student is not too attractive or not too rich that they can be bullied and no longer deserve to be publicly shamed? After another big news event surrounding poorly behaved high school students this year, I remember Bari Weiss making the point that what we had was a bunch of grown adults mocking and ridiculing teenagers and she asked what we'd come to that we saw that as acceptable. I think I apply the same thing here. What happened in this case was wrong. The people who were involved in it deserve the prosecution they are facing and should face penalties deemed appropriate by the courts. But we advanced from the colonial days of stocks and pillories and having all the towns people come down with their rotten food, and I am glad we did. I don't think we need to continue down the road of returning to the on line form of that behavior.
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Post by Kao on Apr 11, 2019 14:36:01 GMT
Sometimes you get back what you put out there in life. Some people need to be publicly shamed for their actions, and it's not so much about their looks.
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Post by acookertv on Apr 11, 2019 14:40:52 GMT
Sometimes you get back what you put out there in life. Some people need to be publicly shamed for their actions, and it's not so much about their looks. But then those doing the public shamed risk getting back what they put out there, no?
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Post by justCoz on Apr 11, 2019 14:53:52 GMT
I bet Lori Loughlin is wishing she'd taken that plea deal now! And I bet Felicity Huffman is very glad she did. In LL's case I wonder if her attorney did recommend taking it as the article says. Can you imagine how the attorney is feeling after the increase in charges? Nothing like being able to say "I told you so" without even needing to say the words!
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Post by JustJuls on Apr 11, 2019 17:51:53 GMT
Sometimes you get back what you put out there in life. Some people need to be publicly shamed for their actions, and it's not so much about their looks. But then those doing the public shamed risk getting back what they put out there, no? And at what point does it become too much? The internet is so harsh. People send death threats and stalk people.
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Post by acookertv on Apr 11, 2019 17:53:51 GMT
But then those doing the public shamed risk getting back what they put out there, no? And at what point does it become too much? The internet is so harsh. People send death threats and stalk people. I agree. Which is why I think it's better to just be kind and compassionate to everyone.
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Post by betty80 on Apr 11, 2019 17:57:06 GMT
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Post by dagwood on Apr 11, 2019 19:38:15 GMT
Seriously.
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Post by betty80 on Apr 11, 2019 23:03:30 GMT
E News said Wendy had Kevin served with divorce papers at work this morning.
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 11, 2019 23:14:23 GMT
E News said Wendy had Kevin served with divorce papers at work this morning. OMG, I am so glad to read this!!! HE has been riding on HER COATTAILS........and supporting his MISTRESS with WW's $$$$!!!! I hope this means he will not be her manager anymore.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Apr 12, 2019 2:26:41 GMT
What gets me is when they say the kids knew nothing about it... you didn’t know that having a longer, private test time isn’t the norm? And, I’m sorry, but you KNOW how you do on a test, generally, and her scores should have clued her in. It’s only slightly more believable that you don’t know you’re there for sports. I keep hearing about a woman who got THREE YEARS for lying about her address so her kids could go to a better public school. They should at least get that. Not to mention that they KNEW when they got an athletic ROWING scholarship, and were put on the rowing team, that they DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO ROW!!!
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Post by Kao on Apr 12, 2019 2:28:24 GMT
I am so happy for her! He's had that mistress for over 10 years and her trashy self just had a baby, too. Both of them have been living off Wendy's money, and I hope he gets less of it considering how he had a child with his mistress. I wish her nothing but the best.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 12, 2019 2:29:01 GMT
What gets me is when they say the kids knew nothing about it... you didn’t know that having a longer, private test time isn’t the norm? And, I’m sorry, but you KNOW how you do on a test, generally, and her scores should have clued her in. It’s only slightly more believable that you don’t know you’re there for sports. I keep hearing about a woman who got THREE YEARS for lying about her address so her kids could go to a better public school. They should at least get that. Not to mention that they KNEW when they got an athletic ROWING scholarship, and were put on the rowing team, that they DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO ROW!!! That's terrible..reading these posts, it's just incredible...
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Post by sweetmermaid1 on Apr 12, 2019 4:37:29 GMT
I am so happy for her! He's had that mistress for over 10 years and her trashy self just had a baby, too. Both of them have been living off Wendy's money, and I hope he gets less of it considering how he had a child with his mistress. I wish her nothing but th best. Seriously 10 years? Getting rid of that load of garbage is Wendy's first step toward healing.
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Post by ibot2much on Apr 12, 2019 15:52:18 GMT
I saw the show Monday and she mentioned hubby. She was talking about camping over the weekend with some girlfriend. She said "Kevin and Kevin don't like camping...." I missed the show yesterday so does anybody know if she mentinoned the divorce?
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Post by betty80 on Apr 12, 2019 18:29:53 GMT
I only saw part of the show today and she didn't mention it during the opening hot topics. Today's show was taped yesterday. She did say that today's show was taped. I wish her the best. I'm glad she finally dumped him. ETA: Exclusive: Wendy Williams Served Kevin Hunter Divorce Papers Wrapped in a Gift Box with a Bow, He 'Went Off, Cursing and Screaming'"Wendy Williams finally served Kevin Hunter with divorce papers on Thursday — and lovebscott.com can exclusively tell you how it ALL went down. According to our sources, Wendy served Kevin by disguising the divorce papers as a present — completely wrapped with big bows. “When Kevin excitedly opened the box, thinking it was a gift of some sort, the process server uttered those famous words, ‘you have been served.'” The source continues, “Kevin is now persona non-grata at ‘The Wendy Williams Show.’ The passcodes have been changed and his access to the building has been revoked. Wendy has instructed staff to not let him anywhere near her.” As far as Kevin’s reaction — he took it as well as you’d expect. He allegedly “went off, cursing and screaming” when he wasn’t allowed into production offices. Yikes. This has all of the makings for a Kendu 2.0 situation."
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Post by lonnie on Apr 12, 2019 19:32:02 GMT
Toxic amber heard has been coming out with more stories after a big lawsuit against her for defamation.
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Post by dagwood on Apr 12, 2019 19:37:05 GMT
I only saw part of the show today and she didn't mention it during the opening hot topics. Today's show was taped yesterday. She did say that today's show was taped. I wish her the best. I'm glad she finally dumped him. ETA: Exclusive: Wendy Williams Served Kevin Hunter Divorce Papers Wrapped in a Gift Box with a Bow, He 'Went Off, Cursing and Screaming'"Wendy Williams finally served Kevin Hunter with divorce papers on Thursday — and lovebscott.com can exclusively tell you how it ALL went down. According to our sources, Wendy served Kevin by disguising the divorce papers as a present — completely wrapped with big bows. “When Kevin excitedly opened the box, thinking it was a gift of some sort, the process server uttered those famous words, ‘you have been served.'” The source continues, “Kevin is now persona non-grata at ‘The Wendy Williams Show.’ The passcodes have been changed and his access to the building has been revoked. Wendy has instructed staff to not let him anywhere near her.” As far as Kevin’s reaction — he took it as well as you’d expect. He allegedly “went off, cursing and screaming” when he wasn’t allowed into production offices. Yikes. This has all of the makings for a Kendu 2.0 situation." HA! I love it.
I hope she changed locks in the house and took him off her bank accounts, too.
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Post by betty80 on Apr 12, 2019 20:52:41 GMT
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Post by Kao on Apr 12, 2019 22:07:25 GMT
betty80, I read that B. Scott article this morning and laughed so hard. LOL, of course that creep thought she bought him a present; men like that think it's all about them. Good on her for firing him from her show and changing the access codes as well; he doesn't need to be anywhere near her.
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Post by mika06 on Apr 13, 2019 0:30:55 GMT
Unfortunately Wendy will have to pay him a good amount since he's been in her professional dealings for far too many years. That said I hope he won't get anything additional with the baby as proof of the continued affair. Let him and his mistress live on that till it all runs out since they are so used to living on Wendy's lifestyle.
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 13, 2019 1:13:05 GMT
YES now EVERYONE is going to applaud WW .... she should have done this yearssss ago. But she didn't. For whatever reasons who knows. BUT NOW ITS DONE!!! YEAH WENDY!!!! Don't look back and STAY STRONG!!!!!
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Post by mika06 on Apr 13, 2019 8:41:10 GMT
Looks like Boston will be charging some of the students as well:
College Students to Be Charged
This sounds like they are probably putting pressure on the parents to ultimately make deals
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Post by justCoz on Apr 13, 2019 13:29:29 GMT
Looks like Boston will be charging some of the students as well:
College Students to Be Charged
This sounds like they are probably putting pressure on the parents to ultimately make deals I agree. Along with the new charges that were filed this week, it sounds like they are trying to get the parents who haven't taken plea deals yet to understand just how much worse it can get.
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Post by betty80 on Apr 15, 2019 14:59:32 GMT
Wendy never mentioned the word divorce today, but she referenced it multiple times. She talked about being single, about being a hot topic, and making a new life for her and her son. I am so happy for her. She seemed upbeat and happy. She said living in the sober house helped her think about her life.
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Post by acookertv on Apr 15, 2019 15:03:45 GMT
I wonder if going through all of this is going to change her tone when it comes to celebrity gossip about other break ups, and if so how that will impact her show overall. She's made a great career for herself by being snarky when it comes to gossiping about celebrities going through tough times. I thought it was notable that when The View and The Talk were discussing her filing for divorce, they were pretty gentle in what they said, and did a lot to wish her well. Having gone through it, will Wendy change her style so that she extends that sort of kindness to others? And if she does, will it hurt her show since people tune into her show for something different than they are looking for from The Talk or The View?
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Post by betty80 on Apr 15, 2019 15:22:28 GMT
She said she wasn't going to change and thanked the audience for still watching even when they didn't like her.
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