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Post by MissGriss on Jul 13, 2020 23:52:18 GMT
Watched some of the press conference today by the search party, and apparently she got caught in a current. She had just enough strength to save her son but not enough for herself, It's really heartbreaking. They also said that the boat was not anchored properly and floated away from her. That's so sad! I'm glad she was able to save him, but how tragic!
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Post by beerbelly on Jul 13, 2020 23:55:51 GMT
Oh wow. Thank you Kao. I have been following this story (it's sad and creepy and I loved Glee). Thank God that child was wearing a life-vest. Just so sad.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Jul 14, 2020 0:32:54 GMT
Watched some of the press conference today by the search party, and apparently she got caught in a current. She had just enough strength to save her son but not enough for herself, It's really heartbreaking. They also said that the boat was not anchored properly and floated away from her. Just so tragic. Kao, did they say if it would have made any difference if she had been wearing her life vest? I think she had rented the boat for 3 hours and it was supposed to be returned at 4 pm. When she didn't return they went looking for her. I'm not sure what the water temperature was at that time but if she had been wearing the vest could she have been saved? I don't know if hypothermia would set in fast, not knowing the water temperature but might she have been able to scream for help? Would the life vest have kept her afloat?
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Post by Kao on Jul 14, 2020 2:58:41 GMT
Watched some of the press conference today by the search party, and apparently she got caught in a current. She had just enough strength to save her son but not enough for herself, It's really heartbreaking. They also said that the boat was not anchored properly and floated away from her. Just so tragic. Kao, did they say if it would have made any difference if she had been wearing her life vest? I think she had rented the boat for 3 hours and it was supposed to be returned at 4 pm. When she didn't return they went looking for her. I'm not sure what the water temperature was at that time but if she had been wearing the vest could she have been saved? I don't know if hypothermia would set in fast, not knowing the water temperature but might she have been able to scream for help? Would the life vest have kept her afloat? I don't know. Not familiar with that particular lake but if it has anything like Lake Michigan currents it would have been extremely hard. The thing about currents and riptides is you have to swim in the same direction they are running in to get out of them but not everyone knows that, and if you are already tired it's easy to be overwhelmed.
According to her son she pulled him onto the boat and when he looked around he saw her go under and the boat floating away. It's horrible, but at least in her last moments she knew she had saved her son. That's a good thing.
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Post by sweetmermaid1 on Jul 14, 2020 3:12:19 GMT
Just so tragic. Kao, did they say if it would have made any difference if she had been wearing her life vest? I think she had rented the boat for 3 hours and it was supposed to be returned at 4 pm. When she didn't return they went looking for her. I'm not sure what the water temperature was at that time but if she had been wearing the vest could she have been saved? I don't know if hypothermia would set in fast, not knowing the water temperature but might she have been able to scream for help? Would the life vest have kept her afloat? I don't know. Not familiar with that particular lake but if it has anything like Lake Michigan currents it would have been extremely hard. The thing about currents and riptides is you have to swim in the same direction they are running in to get out of them but not everyone knows that, and if you are already tired it's easy to be overwhelmed.
According to her son she pulled him onto the boat and when he looked around he saw her go under and the boat floating away. It's horrible, but at least in her last moments she knew she had saved her son. That's a good thing. Her Mom instinct kicked in and that gave her the strength to keep him safe. May she rest in peace and I hope her beautiful boy will draw upon her strength and have loving hearts to guide him.
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Post by ibot2much on Jul 15, 2020 12:51:42 GMT
Just saw in the BOSTON GLOBE that Tom Bergeron announced that he has been dismissed from hosting Dancing With the Stars. Erin Andrews also will not be returning. When contacted by the GLOBE, DWTS stated that they are going in a different direction.....pretty much the normal statement.
Obviously, Tom was taken by surprise.
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Post by Arielflies on Jul 15, 2020 13:10:40 GMT
The News thread in DWTS has this plus our reaction to this and the new host.
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Post by Navybelle on Jul 16, 2020 5:58:37 GMT
Nick Cannon's in hot water, first for things he said that were offensive, then for not really apologizing. Today, apparently, he did apologize, after losing one of his jobs. This article says he will not lose his Masked Singer gig though. Hollywood Reporter Nick Cannon Apologizes
I heard clips of him in the podcast, and he was explaining (to a guy who was kicked out of his band for his racist comments) that historically, people with less melanin in their skin, were "less", alluding to their character or intelligence. They had to rape and pillage and do all those awful things, because they were basically inferior people. He also said things that were anti-Semetic, reportedly, though I didn't get to hear those comments. Before this latest post he did on Facebook, I heard he was "not going to be oppressed" by being forced to apologize. He had been standing by what he said, just as he did a few years ago when he got let go at AGT for things he said in a comedy bit that were also racist. But suddenly, he's being enlightened.
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Post by Kao on Jul 16, 2020 14:05:01 GMT
Nick Cannon's in hot water, first for things he said that were offensive, then for not really apologizing. Today, apparently, he did apologize, after losing one of his jobs. This article says he will not lose his Masked Singer gig though. Hollywood Reporter Nick Cannon Apologizes
I heard clips of him in the podcast, and he was explaining (to a guy who was kicked out of his band for his racist comments) that historically, people with less melanin in their skin, were "less", alluding to their character or intelligence. They had to rape and pillage and do all those awful things, because they were basically inferior people. He also said things that were anti-Semetic, reportedly, though I didn't get to hear those comments. Before this latest post he did on Facebook, I heard he was "not going to be oppressed" by being forced to apologize. He had been standing by what he said, just as he did a few years ago when he got let go at AGT for things he said in a comedy bit that were also racist. But suddenly, he's being enlightened. No. I saw what he said in its entirety and he said some godawful, terrible things. Very Black Israelite and extremely anti-semetic. He deserved to get fired.
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Post by FannyMare on Jul 16, 2020 15:46:07 GMT
Nick Cannon's in hot water, first for things he said that were offensive, then for not really apologizing. Today, apparently, he did apologize, after losing one of his jobs. This article says he will not lose his Masked Singer gig though. Hollywood Reporter Nick Cannon Apologizes
I heard clips of him in the podcast, and he was explaining (to a guy who was kicked out of his band for his racist comments) that historically, people with less melanin in their skin, were "less", alluding to their character or intelligence. They had to rape and pillage and do all those awful things, because they were basically inferior people. He also said things that were anti-Semetic, reportedly, though I didn't get to hear those comments. Before this latest post he did on Facebook, I heard he was "not going to be oppressed" by being forced to apologize. He had been standing by what he said, just as he did a few years ago when he got let go at AGT for things he said in a comedy bit that were also racist. But suddenly, he's being enlightened. No. I saw what he said in its entirety and he said some godawful, terrible things. Very Black Israelite and extremely anti-semetic. He deserved to get fired. Yes, he sure did.
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Post by dagwood on Jul 16, 2020 19:20:35 GMT
Nick Cannon's in hot water, first for things he said that were offensive, then for not really apologizing. Today, apparently, he did apologize, after losing one of his jobs. This article says he will not lose his Masked Singer gig though. Hollywood Reporter Nick Cannon Apologizes
I heard clips of him in the podcast, and he was explaining (to a guy who was kicked out of his band for his racist comments) that historically, people with less melanin in their skin, were "less", alluding to their character or intelligence. They had to rape and pillage and do all those awful things, because they were basically inferior people. He also said things that were anti-Semetic, reportedly, though I didn't get to hear those comments. Before this latest post he did on Facebook, I heard he was "not going to be oppressed" by being forced to apologize. He had been standing by what he said, just as he did a few years ago when he got let go at AGT for things he said in a comedy bit that were also racist. But suddenly, he's being enlightened. No. I saw what he said in its entirety and he said some godawful, terrible things. Very Black Israelite and extremely anti-semetic. He deserved to get fired. This makes me sad. I love Nick Cannon and it's sad to hear he is really that way.
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Post by moviememories on Jul 17, 2020 6:25:07 GMT
smh @ the racist Nick Cannon. Disgusting.
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Post by momrek06 on Jul 17, 2020 14:25:34 GMT
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Post by beerbelly on Jul 17, 2020 17:25:50 GMT
Oh no! I was really enjoying her on 'To catch a beautician'. Such sad news.
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Post by Kao on Jul 17, 2020 20:02:22 GMT
Oh no! I hope she's okay and gets the help she needs.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Jul 17, 2020 23:29:50 GMT
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Post by Amy Lee on Jul 19, 2020 19:07:11 GMT
There are some unsubstantiated reports that Jessica Biel just welcomed her second baby with Justin. I checked her 'gram and People.com but nothing yet.
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Post by Kao on Jul 20, 2020 0:28:23 GMT
Ive heard that as well and if true she definitely kept it undercover. I deeply dislike him but this is proof that you can still have privacy as a celeb.
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Post by Critical on Jul 20, 2020 2:06:16 GMT
Ive heard that as well and if true she definitely kept it undercover. I deeply dislike him but this is proof that you can still have privacy as a celeb. I've read a lot of stuff about what an arrogant jerk he is. Not a fan
I think a lot of people don't realize that SO many photographers get pics of celebs because the celeb's PR person (or the celeb themselves) call the photog to let them know when and where to be to get a pic OR they go to places where they know photogs will be. There are plenty of celebs who just live their lives without being photographed every day.
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Post by momrek06 on Jul 20, 2020 14:45:59 GMT
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Post by momrek06 on Jul 20, 2020 15:16:46 GMT
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Post by Kao on Jul 20, 2020 17:23:03 GMT
Personally, I believe that a person can be mentally ill AND an a****** at the same time and that's where I'm at with Kanye. His ignorance and attention-seeking behavior has reached new levels; his comments about Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, and his ex were disgusting but give him the press that he desperately craves. He doesn't even make sense anymore and is just hateful; why he felt the need to tell the world that he wanted Kim to have an abortion when she was pregnant with North I have no idea but she's going to read that one day, poor thing. His mom was a wonderful, intelligent woman that must be spinning in her grave right now. I went from being a fan of his earlier work to absolutely despising him.
As for the Ks I think that unfortunately they pick broken men and attempt to "fix" them (ie: Khloe and Lamar and the latest cheating loser she's with, the other sister with Scott and his alcoholism, etc.) and we see how that works out.
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Post by acookertv on Jul 20, 2020 17:54:15 GMT
Personally, I believe that a person can be mentally ill AND an a****** at the same time and that's where I'm at with Kanye. His ignorance and attention-seeking behavior has reached new levels; his comments about Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, and his ex were disgusting but give him the press that he desperately craves. He doesn't even make sense anymore and is just hateful; why he felt the need to tell the world that he wanted Kim to have an abortion when she was pregnant with North I have no idea but she's going to read that one day, poor thing. His mom was a wonderful, intelligent woman that must be spinning in her grave right now. I went from being a fan of his earlier work to absolutely despising him. As for the Ks I think that unfortunately they pick broken men and attempt to "fix" them (ie: Khloe and Lamar and the latest cheating loser she's with, the other sister with Scott and his alcoholism, etc.) and we see how that works out. Do they seek broken men to fix them? Or would men who have it all together just not put up with the show that is their lives? I will admit that I have not studied Reggie Bush in great detail, but my impression of him is that he's pretty together. My recollection is also that he broke up with Kim in large part because he didn't want to be a part of the circus. I think the Kardashians are always going to put family fame and money making opportunities ahead of everything else - including relationships. I'm not sure that anyone whose not broken is going to willingly accept always playing third fiddle to a woman's family and her fame.
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Post by Kao on Jul 20, 2020 18:38:17 GMT
Personally, I believe that a person can be mentally ill AND an a****** at the same time and that's where I'm at with Kanye. His ignorance and attention-seeking behavior has reached new levels; his comments about Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, and his ex were disgusting but give him the press that he desperately craves. He doesn't even make sense anymore and is just hateful; why he felt the need to tell the world that he wanted Kim to have an abortion when she was pregnant with North I have no idea but she's going to read that one day, poor thing. His mom was a wonderful, intelligent woman that must be spinning in her grave right now. I went from being a fan of his earlier work to absolutely despising him. As for the Ks I think that unfortunately they pick broken men and attempt to "fix" them (ie: Khloe and Lamar and the latest cheating loser she's with, the other sister with Scott and his alcoholism, etc.) and we see how that works out. Do they seek broken men to fix them? Or would men who have it all together just not put up with the show that is their lives? I will admit that I have not studied Reggie Bush in great detail, but my impression of him is that he's pretty together. My recollection is also that he broke up with Kim in large part because he didn't want to be a part of the circus. I think the Kardashians are always going to put family fame and money making opportunities ahead of everything else - including relationships. I'm not sure that anyone whose not broken is going to willingly accept always playing third fiddle to a woman's family and her fame. That too. Men who have it together wouldn't be interested in that superficial, shallow family.
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Post by MissScarlet on Jul 20, 2020 19:56:04 GMT
It seems Kanye does well for a while & behaves rationally & even sensibly. Then all of a sudden he goes off the rails & says or does something irrational. I wonder if he's off his meds, or trying to self wean himself off them. I know someone who did that. I could always tell when she did this. The stuff that would come out of her mouth was shocking & upsetting. If anyone tried to talk to her about not skipping her meds, they became the target of her anger & insults. I like her a lot during her rational times, but I had to distance myself from her for my own peace of mind & sanity.
Kanye's behavior reminds me of this. When he gets his meds under control he reverts back to a decent guy. It's kind of a roller coaster to be around people like that.
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Post by Kao on Jul 21, 2020 3:49:12 GMT
Oh dear, he is on Twitter right now tweeting up a storm with gems like these:
"Kim was trying to fly to Wyoming with a doctor to lock me up like on the movie Get Out because I cried about saving my daughters life yesterday."
"Everybody knows the movie get out is about me."
"I love my wife My family must live next to me It’s not up to E or NBC anymore." (Note: big spaces is how he typed this)
"West children will never do playboy west."
There's also some mess about NBC sending Bill Cosby to jail and something about Shia Labeof. He then said that Kris and "Calmye" (I think this is in reference to Kris's boyfriend) are not allowed around his children because they keep trying to lock him up. He is completey manic right now and maybe shouldn't be by himself.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Jul 21, 2020 13:07:32 GMT
Oh dear, he is on Twitter right now tweeting up a storm with gems like these: "Kim was trying to fly to Wyoming with a doctor to lock me up like on the movie Get Out because I cried about saving my daughters life yesterday." "Everybody knows the movie get out is about me." "I love my wife My family must live next to me It’s not up to E or NBC anymore." (Note: big spaces is how he typed this) "West children will never do playboy west." There's also some mess about NBC sending Bill Cosby to jail and something about Shia Labeof. He then said that Kris and "Calmye" (I think this is in reference to Kris's boyfriend) are not allowed around his children because they keep trying to lock him up. He is completey manic right now and maybe shouldn't be by himself. Good. One can hope that the crazier he gets, the less likely he'll be taken seriously as a presidential candidate.
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Post by acookertv on Jul 21, 2020 13:19:30 GMT
He's already "dropped out" of the race. So I think it's justified to just be concerned about the state he's in and hope that he's treated and medicated properly soon - and that most of the people watching feel more concern than they do fascination for the "show".
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Post by ibot2much on Jul 21, 2020 14:42:09 GMT
I don't think he was ever taken seriously. The sad thing to me is that the media gave him all that publicity. You know how good parents try to teach their kids not to point to people who are out in public acting or looking strange?? Well, the media should use the rules their mother taught them.
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Post by FannyMare on Jul 21, 2020 14:44:49 GMT
Is Kanye bipolar? I know nothing about him really, but anyone with mental health problems, is a very real concern
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