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Post by waywyrd on Dec 2, 2021 0:15:45 GMT
Do or Die: Another big twist threatens to send someone home; castaways must decide whether to vote out the big threat or keep playing the game with people they trust.
Enjoy the show!
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Post by Navybelle on Dec 2, 2021 1:09:44 GMT
Xander's comments being aired make me think he may be on the chopping block tonight! They air him saying he's at the top, making the moves/decisions, which makes me scared for him.
Then Deshawn is on a roll, too, so maybe he'll be the one? I do understand his point, because he wasn't the only one who voted Shan out but she focused on him and called him a snake. Ricard had a good explanation for us about Deshawn's being all over the place. Ricard seems like a machine: no emotion, just methodical.
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Post by Navybelle on Dec 2, 2021 1:18:37 GMT
Another twist is upon us: Do or Die, which is a "game" the 1st person who drops out of the challenge will play at tribal. They either will be safe, or be the one out.
Two women sit out of the challenge: Liana and Heather, so they won't be in Do or Die, but also won't win immunity.
Deshawn is first to drop.
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Post by Navybelle on Dec 2, 2021 1:38:56 GMT
Probst with his "Do or Die" language makes it sound like Deshawn will truly live or die. Very dangerous, indeed! He doesn't say "live or die in the game" but just plain living and dying.
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Post by Midol on Dec 2, 2021 1:55:41 GMT
And Liana bites the dust. I am not unhappy.
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Post by Navybelle on Dec 2, 2021 2:10:14 GMT
Xander used his extra vote, and Liana goes. Deshawn's box held a fire icon, so he "lives" - which was a shock to me. When they offered him the chance to switch boxes (when it was 50/50), I thought he would! Good thing he didn't though. Seeing Shan and her smug reactions over there in the jury was annoying. I really dislike her.
It will be interesting to see how the rest of this season plays out. Danny and Deshawn don't seem to be sitting in a very good spot. But Ricard is obviously a huge target. Xander too! The previews make it seem like Danny finds an idol, so if he and Xander both play theirs, someone else could be at risk.
All this allows Erika and Heather (!!) to just slide on through to the end. Wow.
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Post by mayamaisha on Dec 2, 2021 5:14:12 GMT
Xander used his extra vote, and Liana goes. Deshawn's box held a fire icon, so he "lives" - which was a shock to me. When they offered him the chance to switch boxes (when it was 50/50), I thought he would! Good thing he didn't though. Seeing Shan and her smug reactions over there in the jury was annoying. I really dislike her. It will be interesting to see how the rest of this season plays out. Danny and Deshawn don't seem to be sitting in a very good spot. But Ricard is obviously a huge target. Xander too! The previews make it seem like Danny finds an idol, so if he and Xander both play theirs, someone else could be at risk. All this allows Erika and Heather (!!) to just slide on through to the end. Wow. I can’t stand Shan. She is full of herself.
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Post by allornothing on Dec 2, 2021 11:38:20 GMT
Well that was another super satisfying episode. Ricard patiently explained to DeShawn why D was the snake and R was not in Shan's eyes and he did not hear a word he said. He missed the entire point. He still thinks his only mistake was the confrontation with Ricard. He claims he hears and will learn but history has shown this to be false. I am not rooting for Ricard BUT given who is left I won't be upset if he wins.
I laughed when DeShawn was first out and got the do or die.
I liked hearing Danny's backstory. Its an easy one to feel for - hence every Disney animated movie every made - but I also think considering he is a pro ex athlete not having ticked off any members of the jury AND people still are not seeing him as the biggest threat means I can get behind him to root for later - esp if he knows he needs the idol and then finds it later.
Xander solidified as my top player I am rooting for especially since he realizes teaming up against Ricard just puts him next.He continues to play smart. And I was super pleased to see Liann go BEFORE Xander. That Xander hate was just excessive.
I am not bothered by the social commentary at tribal. I like discussion and back story and like seeing more than just the game so that was good. I do have to say that I felt that DeShawn's crying about it included a bit of I don't understand why I'm the snake. I believe he feels for the cultural portion of it and I believe his feelings for that are genuine but I really suspected some of that emotion is triggered by the fact he sucks at this game but doesn't realize why. I am glad the conversation moved on and other players spoke where it wasn't all mixed in with anything but their point. Even Liann did a really great job.
FINALLY, all of Shan's faces at tribal were cracking me up. Oh noooooes not Liann.
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Post by sirmalcoth on Dec 2, 2021 15:31:55 GMT
The Do or Die Twist was pointless, I don't know how Deshawn managed to pick the correct box but I'm glad he did. I would have been upset if anyone left the game over this twist.
I was happy too see Liana go. I enjoyed her pre merge, but when the merge came she became very annoying to watch. Liana made a lot of mistakes. She left her former alliance on Yase way too soon and put all of her eggs into one basket relying on Shan too much. I also think Liana had way too much tunnel vision on targeting Xander. This ultimately led to her downfall.
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Post by beerbelly on Dec 2, 2021 23:12:07 GMT
Agreed, Mal. I feel that Jeff guided Deshawn to the right box with his hand, I thought I saw it and I also would have chosen the same box. Darren Brown kina thing.
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Post by justCoz on Dec 3, 2021 18:14:31 GMT
I'm glad Liana followed Shan. When Erica was saying she thought viewers at home would be telling her to vote for Ricard to leave I was telling her I didn't think that was a good plan yet since they just got the numbers on their side and wouldn't want to boot him just yet and have tied numbers. I'm rooting for Xander. I think he's playing pretty smart. I probably shouldn't say it so I don't jinx him!
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 3, 2021 19:05:37 GMT
I'm glad Liana followed Shan. When Erica was saying she thought viewers at home would be telling her to vote for Ricard to leave I was telling her I didn't think that was a good plan yet since they just got the numbers on their side and wouldn't want to boot him just yet and have tied numbers. I'm rooting for Xander. I think he's playing pretty smart. I probably shouldn't say it so I don't jinx him! I always say that. I hope I dont jinx Xander, like we have any say.. Is there a final 2 or 3 . I'd like to see Erica, Xander and Ricard
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Post by dagwood on Dec 3, 2021 20:53:19 GMT
Rooting for Xander here, too. I got a little worried when he was talking about being on top. Big time jinx there, buddy. I was happy to see Liana go, but they should have tagged Ricard. He is the bigger threat of the two. I did love her statement about eating, though. I would like a Xander/Danny final 2. If it's 3, I don't know who else I want there.
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Post by sirmalcoth on Dec 3, 2021 20:56:00 GMT
I'm pretty confident it will be a final 3. We haven't had a final 2 since Cagayan in 2014 so I doubt we ever see a final 2 again.
As of right now I am rooting for Ricard, I think he has played the best game and overcome more obstacles than anyone left. But I don't know if Ricard will make it to the end.
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Post by dagwood on Dec 3, 2021 20:58:42 GMT
I agree that Ricard has played the best game, there is just something about him I don't like.
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Post by sirmalcoth on Dec 3, 2021 21:03:04 GMT
I agree that Ricard has played the best game, there is just something about him I don't like. I agree, I have not been a huge fan of his personality wise either , but he has earned my respect with his gameplay.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 4, 2021 4:21:56 GMT
It would have been poetic justice to have Deshawn voted out this episode and it certainly seemed that was the way the tribe was leaning. I was thrilled when DeShawn was the first one out during the Immunity Challenge as it seemed as if him leaving the game was a certainty.
However, I do think Ricard is a big threat and needs to be eliminated as soon as possible they only have 5 days left of play.
Liana not sad to see her go.
I am one of the audience who does not care about the 15 minute speech she gave, or the 5 minutes of tears Deshawn leaked. I do not think that minorities on the Survivor staff had anything to do with the diverse cast. It was something that was probably in the works for a long time. If given a choice I would have voted Liana, DeShawn, and Danny off the island at that moment, based on the fact they are all annoying, well mostly Liana and DeShawn.
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