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Post by MFWalkoff on Dec 17, 2021 14:52:03 GMT
The Last Straw - It’s time for the unconventional challenge where the designers will be asked to create an elegant cocktail dress from an actual cocktail bar.
Enjoy the show!
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Post by ibot2much on Dec 17, 2021 15:55:08 GMT
The 8 designs fell perfectly into the three categories. The top three were spectacular, the two safe were certainly fine and the three bottom were terrible. Wasn't the model who wore the losing dress the same one who wore the losing design last week?. I know PR has worked toward being inclusive, but it is harder to fit a larger model than one who is a size 0. I am curious if any of the top designs would have looked as good if they had to fit the larger model.
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Post by Kao on Dec 17, 2021 16:22:07 GMT
I really enjoyed tonight's episode, and it seemed like the contestants did as well. I loved how Christian invited them over for drinks, only for them to find out that they would be using items around the bar to create their designs. This was a very good runway; while there were some execution issues among the outfits that were on the bottom everyone did well. The top 3 (and I would put Bones in this group as well) were spectacular in different ways. Aaron's dress was very beautiful and Art Deco New York and he didn't need the puffy jacket because that dress stood proudly on its own merit. I'm glad Shantalle came back from almost getting eliminated because her dress looked very avant garde and textured in a lovely way; it's amazing what she did with only straws. Kristina's dress was a shimmery delight.
Then they showed the lower rated contestants and they were all fine, just execution issues. The Typography Ho in me luvluvluvvved Anna's dress; I loved how the "thank you" print on the bag made a nice graphic print, and I liked the addition of the extra type on the dress. However, the side of her cheongsam was gaping at the button holes, which was not a good look. Chasity's dress had a cool can-can girl quality to it that would have been rated higher had there not been execution issues all over. Prajie made the rookie mistake for not including his model's waist in consideration and the end result was she looked like she was a box. It's at the point where you hate to see anyone go home, and I've enjoyed all 3 designers so it was crap no matter who was picked. I think the person who left is very talented, and I hope being on this show gave them a bigger audience for their work.
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Post by Critical on Dec 18, 2021 4:24:53 GMT
Shantall should be really happy she ran out of time for two sleeves! I don't think that dress would have been nearly as good with two sleeves. The straps across the front were fabulous. It really did not look like just straws. It was sort of Alien meets the runway. I think the fact that she sewed it all, rather than using a glue gun, really worked in her favor too. You could really tell from the judges' expressions (especially Brandon) when that dress came down the runway that it was a winner. Didn't they used to eliminate the model with the designer? I know they're not working with one model for the whole season, but how are they eliminating models now? I do think working with fuller figured models probably more challenging for many of the designers, but it can be done. I mean, look at Christian. He's made a career of dressing all sizes and doing it well. I liked Anna's design too, Kao. I don't think that slit worked well, but I liked the rest of it. Chasity's dress definitely looked better from a distance. I didn't mind that the dress wasn't solid red, but when you got up close and saw things falling off, that was a problem. I liked Aaron's design too and agree that the cape wasn't necessary. It seems like every episode there's at least one designer who adds one item too much or hides a great feature of one garment under another garment.
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Post by silver18 on Dec 18, 2021 5:41:47 GMT
The 8 designs fell perfectly into the three categories. The top three were spectacular, the two safe were certainly fine and the three bottom were terrible. Wasn't the model who wore the losing dress the same one who wore the losing design last week?. I know PR has worked toward being inclusive, but it is harder to fit a larger model than one who is a size 0. I am curious if any of the top designs would have looked as good if they had to fit the larger model. I dont know. I think if a designer designs based on the body type of the model, the outfit should look fabulous. Not all body types would look good in the same dress IMO. I think of some of the designs made for Tara Lipinsky. There were a couple that the judges felt did not suit her in the least because of her size.
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Post by Arielflies on Dec 18, 2021 6:44:04 GMT
They did get the model photos and dimensions before they began sketching, so size and shape shouldn't be an issue. I think with the coffee filters, they were used whole rather than cut up. He could have had a cut waist and a full skirt if he had manipulated the filters better.
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Post by newsboi on Dec 19, 2021 0:09:00 GMT
I don't think that the issue is with a plus size model, but rather with this plus size model. She has a short torso and lacks a defined natural waist. She's been a challenge for every designer who has had to dress her. I'm not body shaming because she is plus size, I just think that she has a difficult body to fit.
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Post by Arielflies on Dec 19, 2021 1:04:15 GMT
That's me only shorter. Not have a defined waist has led to clothes without waists, such as pants and teeshirts. When I was a child, my Mom would take me shopping for school clothes and shake her head. So happy with the high school uniform of the navy midi from the 30's The "blouse" was meant to be worn as an over-blouse.
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Post by ibot2much on Dec 19, 2021 13:26:42 GMT
I would like to see something they did in the past....a challenge where everybody had to dress an "ordinary" woman....that way the playing field is level and PR is being inclusive.
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Post by Kao on Dec 19, 2021 20:12:42 GMT
I don't think that the issue is with a plus size model, but rather with this plus size model. She has a short torso and lacks a defined natural waist. She's been a challenge for every designer who has had to dress her. I'm not body shaming because she is plus size, I just think that she has a difficult body to fit.I agree. She's what people in my grandmother's time would call "ill-shaped" and it has nothing to do with being plus-sized; it's about your body proportions. Unfortunately, this model has the double curse of being shortwaisted AND having no definition in the waist area, and a certain amount of care and tailoring has to be done to make up for that. That's time that unfortunately they don't often get on this show. I know that Mimi is in high demand, but then again Mimi is fabulous and elevates everything she wears.
I'm noticing something very interesting this season, and that's the amount of contestants in which winning is secondary to the actual experience you get by being on the show and the amount of exposure you get. In the past, winning was everything. This season, it seems like a lot of people think the experience itself is the prize, and if people liked their looks on the show they can look at their website or Instagram and support them and THAT is the main goal, not winning itself because let's face it; there's only going to be one winner out of 16, and the odds are it won't be you. Personally, I think that's a more healthy approach because there's a lot of PR alum who are doing quite well post-show because they had a vibe and people responded to it. The people who didn't win "Making the Cut" are doing fabulous post-show (Gary and Esthar in particular) and I don't think this will be any different. So I'm not too worried about designers like Octavio, Katie, and Raije because their looks are niche enough to get them fans and people will go to their socials, see what's available, and possibly buy something at their price point.
I also hope some kind designers take the little ones (Zayden, Darren, and Kenneth) under their wing for some seasoning because it makes a difference; prior to being on PR Christian himself interned for Vivienne Westwood and McQueen while in school and it made a HUGE difference in his skillset and abilities. Not everyone gets that opportunity.
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Post by Cootie on Dec 20, 2021 1:23:34 GMT
I work at a dress shop and sew apparel mostly for myself. At one time I sewed dresses for a Hawaiian dance group and would have to make fitted dresses for 12-18 different women's bodies. I learned that with the right fit and a good design, each and every one of the women ended up looking terrific! In the case of Prajie's model, that shape he designed, especially with the upholstery fabric as the base, was what did him in. There are many women who don't have a waistline who can look fabulous in clothing if it simply bypasses the waist. If his design had more movement with a drapier base, it would have looked so much better! I really liked the lace treatment at the bodice level, the heavy hem treatment, not so much. With so few designers left, each one that leaves will have great skills and it will be sad to see them go. They are each learning so much and will benefit from this experience.
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Post by MissGriss on Dec 20, 2021 6:54:31 GMT
I agree, Cootie, that the biggest problem with Prajje's look was that he used pleather as the base. That made no sense at all. It was way too stiff to flow well on anyone's body.
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Post by silver18 on Dec 21, 2021 8:32:56 GMT
I work at a dress shop and sew apparel mostly for myself. At one time I sewed dresses for a Hawaiian dance group and would have to make fitted dresses for 12-18 different women's bodies. I learned that with the right fit and a good design, each and every one of the women ended up looking terrific! In the case of Prajie's model, that shape he designed, especially with the upholstery fabric as the base, was what did him in. There are many women who don't have a waistline who can look fabulous in clothing if it simply bypasses the waist. If his design had more movement with a drapier base, it would have looked so much better! I really liked the lace treatment at the bodice level, the heavy hem treatment, not so much. With so few designers left, each one that leaves will have great skills and it will be sad to see them go. They are each learning so much and will benefit from this experience. Thank you for your comments! My daughter is shortwaisted and plus sized and she can look gorgeous in designs that are suited to her body type. I am probably overly sensitive but IMO a good designer should be able to design for any shaped woman. I have a feeling that Rajjes dress would not have flattered most models.
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