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Post by bloomers on Jun 16, 2018 23:28:17 GMT
I taught in the Middle School, and honestly....except that these women are older, this sounds very much like the way the Middle Schoolers carried on.  |
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 19, 2018 16:22:50 GMT
It was very strange to me, that Garret and all his homophobic likes, was the guy that met the gay couple. If I didn't know better, I'd say the show knew who he was before it started. His mocking parkland and the conspiracies... I cannot like him, even if she's nuts about him. I didn't like the way he spoke about his ex. Who btw said he changed after they married..her friends back her up( or I should say their friends) they have a different story. Especially his walking out of the marriage, coming back and demanding half of everything... This won't end well for Becca..
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Post by bloomers on Jun 19, 2018 18:53:34 GMT
It was very strange to me, that Garret and all his homophobic likes, was the guy that met the gay couple. If I didn't know better, I'd say the show knew who he was before it started. His mocking parkland and the conspiracies... I cannot like him, even if she's nuts about him. I didn't like the way he spoke about his ex. Who btw said he changed after they married..her friends back her up( or I should say their friends) they have a different story. Especially his walking out of the marriage, coming back and demanding half of everything... This won't end well for Becca.. Just to be fair....in a divorce, there usually are two sides, friends and family do takes sides and see things according to their loved one, and a great many people split things down the middle, especially if there are no children involved. It would be interesting to hear HIS friends and family tell it. You might hear that she was more like he was telling it. Splits are usually not easy, pleasant, nor are they usually known for all parties seeing things the same way. I would throw out for whatever it is it is worth that sometimes people should not get married - maybe those two? Hindsight - and all that!!! That said, I don't know know any of them. I do unfortunately know the hurt of divorce, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I will withhold judgement. |
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 19, 2018 18:59:12 GMT
I know there are two sides, I've been divorced ( although it lasted more than two months)he gets to tell his side in front of millions of people. So I looked for the other side!..I found it interesting..
I thought the way he told it last night was very very odd, and so did others!
He should have owned up to the fact he walked out on her..
I don't like the guy, and I'm betting right now, they don't last!
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Post by bloomers on Jun 20, 2018 13:00:50 GMT
More interesting than his past divorce - because he was very young, and it sounds like there were some complex things going on there which might not in any way whatsoever impact Becca - is the possible ideological differences they have according to "reports". Now, I put reports in emphasis simply because I would rather hear unedited conversations between them on political and religious matters which everyone us knows by now is simply never going to happen: (1) we don't get anything unedited, and (2) it has been revealed to insiders and on several published articles that the producers feel like such conversations would be too boring and controversial. I feel these differences - if they exist and are too large will be what sink this relationship and rather quickly given the political upheaval in our country at the moment. At this point, we have no verified information from her. She is standing by her choice.  I personally feel this is maybe a stubborn woman who is determined to give it every thing she has to make it work out. They may have gone back forth and tried to hammer out differences. We'll see what happens? |
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 20, 2018 15:33:41 GMT
More interesting than his past divorce - because he was very young, and it sounds like there were some complex things going on there which might not in any way whatsoever impact Becca - is the possible ideological differences they have according to "reports". Now, I put reports in emphasis simply because I would rather hear unedited conversations between them on political and religious matters which everyone us knows by now is simply never going to happen: (1) we don't get anything unedited, and (2) it has been revealed to insiders and on several published articles that the producers feel like such conversations would be too boring and controversial. I feel these differences - if they exist and are too large will be what sink this relationship and rather quickly given the political upheaval in our country at the moment. At this point, we have no verified information from her. She is standing by her choice. I personally feel this is maybe a stubborn woman who is determined to give it every thing she has to make it work out. They may have gone back forth and tried to hammer out differences. We'll see what happens? Garrets ex wife didn't want to go on the show, he did. He's the one, like every single bachelor that will be under scrutiny, and I wish this show would leave the ex's out of it. Becca can be as stubborn as she likes, it might be him that walks out as he did before, and lays the blame on Becca.. Btw he divorced in 2016, two years ago,he wasn't that young.. |
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Post by bloomers on Jun 20, 2018 15:52:10 GMT
She doesn't want to go on the show, and RS isn't even interested in asking her on his show. From all accounts, she has re-married and wants to let it all go.
I guess we wait and see how this all works out.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 20, 2018 15:58:55 GMT
She doesn't want to go on the show, and RS isn't even interested in asking her gon his show. From all accounts, she has re-married and wants to let it all go. I guess we wait and see how this all works out. Good grief, why would she. I posted she's remarried, and obviously moved on.. |
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Post by bloomers on Jun 21, 2018 0:12:01 GMT
She doesn't want to go on the show, and RS isn't even interested in asking her gon his show. From all accounts, she has re-married and wants to let it all go. I guess we wait and see how this all works out. Good grief, why would she. I posted she's remarried, and obviously moved on.. The point I was trying to make is she isn't interested in talking about it. The only ones who want to are on each side, and they are by nature biased, so we won't get anywhere with getting a true perspective on that marriage. Therefore, I am not as interested in his marriage as I am are they going to be able to agree on perspectives? Whereas they don't have to do live with the ex-wife, they do have to live with the perspectives. |
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 21, 2018 1:27:17 GMT
Good grief, why would she. I posted she's remarried, and obviously moved on.. The point I was trying to make is she isn't interested in talking about it. The only ones who want to are on each side, and they are by nature biased, so we won't get anywhere with getting a true perspective on that marriage. Therefore, I am not as interested in his marriage as I am are they going to be able to agree on perspectives? Whereas they don't have to do live with the ex-wife, they do have to live with the perspectives. Well here's the thing, past behaviours are a good indication of future behaviour. I believe this guy can come across really nice, until he wins. I- don't like him. I know what you are saying, but family friend(s) of there's are saying this guy changed, got angry, walked out, demanded half of everything( after her side paid a lot out for the wedding))that tells me a lot! You might be okay with someone who agrees with parkland conspiracies, I'm not... |
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Post by bloomers on Jun 21, 2018 13:40:01 GMT
The point I was trying to make is she isn't interested in talking about it. The only ones who want to are on each side, and they are by nature biased, so we won't get anywhere with getting a true perspective on that marriage. Therefore, I am not as interested in his marriage as I am are they going to be able to agree on perspectives? Whereas they don't have to do live with the ex-wife, they do have to live with the perspectives. Well here's the thing, past behaviours are a good indication of future behaviour. I believe this guy can come across really nice, until he wins. I- don't like him. I know what you are saying, but family friend(s) of there's are saying this guy changed, got angry, walked out, demanded half of everything( after her side paid a lot out for the wedding))that tells me a lot! You might be okay with someone who agrees with parkland conspiracies, I'm not... Whoa, Fanny...where did that come from ? I am so sorry I have upset you. Please accept my apologies.  |
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 21, 2018 14:46:07 GMT
Well here's the thing, past behaviours are a good indication of future behaviour. I believe this guy can come across really nice, until he wins. I- don't like him. I know what you are saying, but family friend(s) of there's are saying this guy changed, got angry, walked out, demanded half of everything( after her side paid a lot out for the wedding))that tells me a lot! You might be okay with someone who agrees with parkland conspiracies, I'm not... Whoa, Fanny...where did that come from ? I am so sorry I have upset you. Please accept my apologies. I'm not upset at all. I just don't like the guy..lol .. I don't even like his look. Absolutely nothing to apologise for.. I posted I get where your coming from, I just think he's dirt, actually her crop of guys are not very nice..for someone the show loved so much, they sure didn't vet very well( if at all)  |
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Post by Mikesgirl on Jun 22, 2018 1:48:19 GMT
Sometimes, Becca reminds me of Jill in her denial and “stand by my man” attitude, (ie choice). Either Garrett turns his attitude around for real, not just to secure the prize; or, in time he will lose out on a woman who though smitten, is willing to go 50/50 with him.
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Post by MissScarlet on Jun 22, 2018 1:55:11 GMT
I'm not impressed with someone who "has changed". I like someone who was great in the first place.
The whole "he has changed" statement, to me implies that there were some serious issues there to begin with. You can't erase your past.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 22, 2018 3:59:38 GMT
I'm not impressed with someone who "has changed". I like someone who was great in the first place. The whole "he has changed" statement, to me implies that there were some serious issues there to begin with. You can't erase your past. You also can't change because you're on a TV show, or because TPTB know what's out there, and think you should issue an apology.. |
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Post by Mikesgirl on Jun 22, 2018 21:57:14 GMT
Even if you were an alcoholic and recently received your 35 year AA chip for being sober? I met my husband after he had been sober for a few years, but, I have seen other people sink to their bottom, or realize how awful their behavior was and change overnight for the good.
If you have not witnessed people who have suddenly, in a moment, changed their life from bad to good, then it will be difficult for you to believe it is possible, I get that.
But, I have seen people "wake up" suddenly, and realize in an instant what a mess they have made, or how their behavior really affected other people; and they changed right then and there, for the better. The change can be drastic, and in a life supportive way.
If he can read the articles being written about him, and see his behavior as offensive as it was.... it may be a life changing moment for the good for him. Let's hope that is what it is.
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Post by dagwood on Jun 23, 2018 0:52:42 GMT
Working in the public defender's office you do get the chance to see people change. Sometimes it is 'overnight'. They realize they don't want to live the life of an addict anymore. They don't happen often but they do.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 23, 2018 4:18:47 GMT
Working in the public defender's office you do get the chance to see people change. Sometimes it is 'overnight'. They realize they don't want to live the life of an addict anymore. They don't happen often but they do. I've seen people change,just not in the course of a couple of weeks, that's all.. I don't think Garret has changed, but that's just my very humble opinion.. |
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Post by silver18 on Jun 23, 2018 16:18:12 GMT
I have stopped watching the show because I too dislike her final choice and I agree - it likely wont last. In my experience you can change behaviour, but you cannot change your temperament - who you are fundamentally - you can only modify it. Time will tell.
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Post by Mikesgirl on Jun 23, 2018 19:04:35 GMT
I am also not a fan of Garrett, am very disappointed in her choice; however, we still have a ways to go before AFR.
Hopefully, by that time she will have gotten to know him better and, will either be ready to dump him; or will have inspired him to become a better human..... If his behavior was the result of youthful stupidity then there may be hope for him, if due to his upbringing, then their relationship may be full of challenges.
In the meantime, I am still hoping RS is WRONG and she has chosen Blake or even Jason would be nice.
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Post by MissScarlet on Jun 23, 2018 20:14:52 GMT
I have stopped watching the show because I too dislike her final choice and I agree - it likely wont last. In my experience you can change behaviour, but you cannot change your temperament - who you are fundamentally - you can only modify it. Time will tell. Those are the key words. Yes people can change their views & improve themselves, but your past is still your past. Whether it's words or actions, they came from a choice the person made based on who they are. Granted, this guy was still young enough to make stupid choices. We all did when we were young, at least I did, but not in stuff like that. We can grow as we age, in both ideas & the realization that we're making bad decisions. Some people do. As silver 18 said: Time will tell. That's when you can believe it. |
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 23, 2018 20:24:23 GMT
I have stopped watching the show because I too dislike her final choice and I agree - it likely wont last. In my experience you can change behaviour, but you cannot change your temperament - who you are fundamentally - you can only modify it. Time will tell. Those are the key words. Yes people can change their views & improve themselves, but your past is still your past. Whether it's words or actions, they came from a choice the person made based on who they are. Granted, this guy was still young enough to make stupid choices. We all did when we were young, at least I did, but not in stuff like that. We can grow as we age, in both ideas & the realization that we're making bad decisions. Some people do. As silver 18 said: Time will tell. That's when you can believe it. He was 28( the age he is now) , when he liked the conspiracy theory about Parkland, he wasn't some teenager, he's a grown @ss man |
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Post by Arielflies on Jun 23, 2018 21:01:11 GMT
It really isn't worth the fight over whether this idiot is a match for Becca or not. His horse has been beaten so much it is almost dead and ready for the glue factory.
It's Becca's choice - let her deal with it.
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Post by bloomers on Jun 24, 2018 17:16:32 GMT
I am also not a fan of Garrett, am very disappointed in her choice; however, we still have a ways to go before AFR. Hopefully, by that time she will have gotten to know him better and, will either be ready to dump him; or will have inspired him to become a better human..... If his behavior was the result of youthful stupidity then there may be hope for him, if due to his upbringing, then their relationship may be full of challenges. In the meantime, I am still hoping RS is WRONG and she has chosen Blake or even Jason would be nice. I had some idle time the other day, so I was skimming over a Google link with Bachelor articles. Some body language expert was analyzing Becca's kissing with the guys. Becca was detailed with the hands to the head and neck with Blake and Garrett with Blake getting very high marks. Garrett got the sexual chemistry with the running to him, throwing herself in his arms,wrapping her legs around him with her body part so close to his, and kissing him like she did... Now Jason who Becca said she really liked the way he kissed or something along that line.... The expert showed 2 or 3 pictures of the two of them on the couch. Becca was leaning way into him. He was ram-rod straight. In addition, he had his leg crossed against her with his knee holding her body back where she could not get too close, and he was closed off. She drew an arrow to his foot, and it was flexed up, and she pointed that he was quite tense as if he was "on guard." haha Now with Wills, who Becca said made her feel "comfortable," she leaned into him, but not like with Jason. He, now on the other hand, had his legs "in the man position" - spread sort of wide open" which showed he was comfortable and confident with the situation. Chris, she said, was trying to gobble her like a dessert. |
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Post by carolb57 on Jun 26, 2018 1:08:47 GMT
I haven’t watched since the first week but I still think Blake is the one!
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Post by tinderbox on Jun 26, 2018 18:35:49 GMT
I am also not a fan of Garrett, am very disappointed in her choice; however, we still have a ways to go before AFR. Hopefully, by that time she will have gotten to know him better and, will either be ready to dump him; or will have inspired him to become a better human..... If his behavior was the result of youthful stupidity then there may be hope for him, if due to his upbringing, then their relationship may be full of challenges. In the meantime, I am still hoping RS is WRONG and she has chosen Blake or even Jason would be nice.I agree but RS is rarely, if ever, wrong. Too bad. |
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 26, 2018 19:00:59 GMT
I am also not a fan of Garrett, am very disappointed in her choice; however, we still have a ways to go before AFR. Hopefully, by that time she will have gotten to know him better and, will either be ready to dump him; or will have inspired him to become a better human..... If his behavior was the result of youthful stupidity then there may be hope for him, if due to his upbringing, then their relationship may be full of challenges. In the meantime, I am still hoping RS is WRONG and she has chosen Blake or even Jason would be nice.I agree but RS is rarely, if ever, wrong. Too bad. I don't think he's wrong, he's only as good as his sources, but I believe this last one sent him video or something.. I read MF is upset about the vetting process, and I thought, who vets for your show when it took a few amateurs to spot the loonies..lol. Like MF cares.. |
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Post by MissGriss on Jun 26, 2018 19:56:19 GMT
I agree but RS is rarely, if ever, wrong. Too bad. I don't think he's wrong, he's only as good as his sources, but I believe this last one sent him video or something.. I read MF is upset about the vetting process, and I thought, who vets for your show when it took a few amateurs to spot the loonies..lol. Like MF cares.. It was TMZ that spoiled the outcome this time. Someone was on their honeymoon (or something) at the spot where the proposals took place, and they got video of a happy, huggy Becca and Garrett hanging out with the crew celebrating post-proposal. They tried to sell it to Reality Steve, and he doesn't pay for stuff, so TMZ paid and got the scoop. |
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Post by MissScarlet on Jun 26, 2018 23:12:49 GMT
Frankly, at this point, I don't care who she picks. None of the remaining guys are really clicking with me that way. Some are nice & better than others, but that's it. It's always nice to have one to root for & enjoy, nomatter what spoilers say. If they get picked great. I always like a happy ending for a favorite. If not, we can always hope to see them again as The Bachelor.
This season I'm just in it for the entertainment at this point.
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Post by Mikesgirl on Jun 27, 2018 16:46:08 GMT
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I personally feel this is maybe a stubborn woman who is determined to give it every thing she has to make it work out. They may have gone back forth and tried to hammer out differences. 
