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Post by MFWalkoff on Nov 22, 2022 0:44:40 GMT
Monday / Tuesday - Stars and villains from "The Bachelor" and "The Bachelorette" get another chance to find love.
Enjoy the show!
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Post by fang2170 on Nov 22, 2022 1:40:42 GMT
Wow, good ol' Kate just blindsided Logan. They both went home separately. He'll watch this back after the season is in his rearview mirror and realize he didn't know her at all. Her nasty little digs putting him down behind his back. Even her parting words as she left tonight showed what a nasty b*tch she is. "Please God bring me a grown-@ss man with a big d*ck and/or big bank account". 
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Post by Midol on Nov 22, 2022 1:46:33 GMT
She is such a pig. There is absolutely no reason to be so vile, crude and cruel.
Logan you dodged a bullet. Good luck in the real world and I hope you have learned if she makes you dance through hoops...dump her sorry a**!!!
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Post by Midol on Nov 22, 2022 2:09:08 GMT
It is sad watching Shanae and Flo and the twins pretending that they are in any way, shape or form into each other. So fake.
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Post by fang2170 on Nov 22, 2022 2:12:18 GMT
Closing my eyes and listening to Aaron and Genevieve bicker takes me WAY back to MTV's "Jersey Shore".
They sound just like Ron and Sammie and in the end, they're just as destructive a combination. 🙄
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Post by fang2170 on Nov 22, 2022 2:23:24 GMT
I feel pretty good about Michael and Danielle ❤️
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Post by Midol on Nov 22, 2022 2:30:18 GMT
It was nice seeing Tyler and Brit not trying to force/fake an engagement and just leave the beach together as a couple to see where things could go in real life.
Here comes the fake with Shanae and which ever twin. Like there was ever any chance of this working. She keeps insulting him. He looks lost. Welcome to production manipulation my boy.
Thankfully the other twin has more sense and both he and Flo and agree not to pursue anything outside this.
Shanae fake cries woe is me in the limo while the twins go home to mom's cooking.
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Post by Navybelle on Nov 22, 2022 2:32:05 GMT
Yeah, Gen and Aaron are frustrating to watch, and this time it's especially Genevieve. She's nuts! She misconstrued the conversation, which he at least *tried* to handle maturely. And he had a point, about her always leaving (though why it took him until today to realize it, I don't know). But she couldn't let it go at that. Well, she did, then she didn't. After storming off (again), she thought he was putting it all on her like he did nothing wrong, which is not what he said. She stormed back over to him and they had a truly middle-school level argument! So stupid. He only said when things get hard, he needs someone who doesn't leave -- he never said he did nothing wrong. Wow. She spoke earlier about needing therapy after this, and I wholeheartedly recommend that for her. *let me just add, Aaron's break up speech was dumb, basically. He's a dumb guy, trying to say they'd be friends, etc., so he was not mature about it. Seemed like he was trying, but the more she just sat there and looked at him, the stranger he got ("You look pretty.") and then said he was at peace at how this was ending. Best wishes after all that, sounded weird.
Aww, Michael struggling to tell Danielle his story about the compass makes me teary!! The compass brought him to her (in some crazy way), he says. Aww!!
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Post by MissScarlet on Nov 22, 2022 2:50:14 GMT
This is the second week in a row that I had no talking at all for the first half hour. All I got was background music. Then all of a sudden the talking came back.
Am I the only one who got that? It was really irritating. I would have liked to hear what they had to say.
It came back right after Kate apparently refused Logan's rose. I got the exit speeches.
Oh well, with her exit speech in the car, it became apparent that Logan dodged a bullet. He can do better, and will. Kate, on the other hand, will probably end up with a domineering jerk with an attitude like hers. That is, if she finds anyone at all in her future.
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Post by Navybelle on Nov 22, 2022 2:53:47 GMT
I heard everything, and Kate was rude. She said everything he said about her was really what HE was doing (being critical, etc.). She tweeted earlier that there was lots more not shown that would explain why she did what she did. To me, though, her comments about his car, his job, etc., told us all we need to know.
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Post by Midol on Nov 22, 2022 2:59:12 GMT
I love Michael and Danielle and their talk. Such a stark comparison with Gen and Aaron. I like that they decided to leave together and give things a go in real life.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Nov 22, 2022 5:23:47 GMT
I was confused by the previews. Michael is speaking and saying something like he's sorry he wasn't able to give you closure. Then the camera pans to Danielle. It would seem like he's talking about Sierra, but I don't think she was at the taping and pretty sure he said "you" and not "her." I sure hope that he and Danielle are still together.
Aaron was acting weird all throughout BIP and reading that he has a long time gf who he's still with led me to believe that he was acting the entire time. Genevieve is no prize but I do believe she was serious about finding her person.
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Post by MissGriss on Nov 22, 2022 7:24:22 GMT
Wow! Kate waiting to dump all of that on Logan at the Rose Ceremony rather than just breaking up with him outside of it was such a rotten thing to do. Public shaming is never a good look. I didn’t like her before, but I REALLY don’t like her now. Eastcoastmom, I think Sierra must have been there. I’m sure Michael’s not talking to Danielle.
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Post by Midol on Nov 23, 2022 1:15:57 GMT
Even in the preview, Victoria qualifies her answer to Johnny...right now I can't see my life without you. Yeah, five minutes from now that can change.
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Post by Midol on Nov 23, 2022 1:25:35 GMT
OMG ... Romeo and Kara are still together despite that deer in headlights look when she dragged him off the beach.
Poor Logan who is supposed to do what these dumb women say, but not what they do. Apparently they have never heard what's good for the goose is good for the gander! Get away from Bachelor women Logan!!!
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Post by Midol on Nov 23, 2022 1:31:15 GMT
Shut up Kate! I was saying these things in private to my girlfriends. He correctly tells that there are cameras everywhere and you are miked! He wishes she had said it to his face because that would have cleared things up for him and he could have pursued someone else. Nice. Burn!
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Post by Midol on Nov 23, 2022 1:41:09 GMT
Poor Rodney. Clearly the favourite contestant there. He got the biggest applause and now has to revisit it all over again. Eliza you make no sense. She wants him to tell her not to go and he does, but then she says he didn't...when we all just listened to him say just that.
Now Eliza seems to be changing her mind again and Rodney in the nicest way possible, puts an end to that! You choose you Rodney!!!
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Post by Midol on Nov 23, 2022 1:50:06 GMT
OMG...Gen and Aaron again. How much of this will we have to listen to? They are both apologetic...and aware of appearances. No mention of his girlfriend and no attempts to get them to try again. Thank goodness. Let's move on.
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Post by Navybelle on Nov 23, 2022 1:52:49 GMT
Eliza realized she made a mistake, I believe only because Justin wouldn't have her back! Thank goodness Rodney didn't accept that sorry attempt to get him back. Poor guy still looked so hurt. I wonder if they gave Justin a chance to comment but just didn't show us. Eliza "looked" like she was crying, but I am not sure I saw any real tears there.
Kate didn't do one ounce of help to her bad reputation from being on the show. Saying her (shallow) comments were just between her and her friends, like that makes them okay? Not to mention what he said, there are cameras everywhere and microphones, and she even reiterated her opinions in her ITMs. She's horrible. Lots of Paradise girls have been coming to her defense lately, saying what a great friend and person she is, but all I see is fakeness and arrogance.
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Post by Navybelle on Nov 23, 2022 1:54:20 GMT
OMG...Gen and Aaron again. How much of this will we have to listen to? They are both apologetic...and aware of appearances. No mention of his girlfriend and no attempts to get them to try again. Thank goodness. Let's move on. Agree -- I'm done with those two. Yuck.
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Post by Midol on Nov 23, 2022 1:59:57 GMT
Here we go with Brit and Tyler. He comes out alone to explain they are not together any more. He went to Jersey and met her folks. Shortly after that she told him she couldn't do this and they were different people.
Here she comes. She said that slowly her feeling changed. She wanted a break and he wanted to talk. She said it was too much. Clearly communication is not their strong suit. He is in tears and she is as cold as ice. Another one bites the dust. These people really need to learn how to be honest and that real relationships take work and aren't perfect all the time.
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Post by Navybelle on Nov 23, 2022 2:01:58 GMT
Poor Tyler. That seems like Brittany was being immature and couldn't handle breaking up or even communicating with Tyler about her changing feelings.
Didn't someone say she broke up with him because he didn't have ambitions or aspirations like she did? May be a rumor I read somewhere....
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Post by Midol on Nov 23, 2022 2:08:00 GMT
Michael and Danielle. They come out holding hands. She dyed her hair and I love that pantsuit she is wearing. Clearly these two are happy and still together.
He apologizes to Sierra for hurting her and not giving her closure. She wisely accepts his apology and says she wants him to be happy.
Danielle is moving to Ohio. Not living with him and James, but she has met James and they get along. He tells her he loves her and they both are crying. She is surprised because he never said it although, she slipped up before. Oh, they are so sweet. Finally, a feel good moment...even though they raced through that.
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Post by Midol on Nov 23, 2022 2:10:18 GMT
Poor Tyler. That seems like Brittany was being immature and couldn't handle breaking up or even communicating with Tyler about her changing feelings. Didn't someone say she broke up with him because he didn't have ambitions or aspirations like she did? May be a rumor I read somewhere.... I read that she thought he was too needy. Not those words, but that was the gist.
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Post by Navybelle on Nov 23, 2022 2:10:35 GMT
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Post by Midol on Nov 23, 2022 2:22:23 GMT
Johnny and Victoria...and Greg Grippo. Shut up Victoria. Post FS she keeps telling him she loves him in that fake way she has. He goes to pick a ring and talks about how he has been dumped in the past. Foreshadowing of what's to come. Like they knew what was going to happen. Hmmm... Proposal time...Apparently love is not just a check list. He changed her world. She can't imagine life without him at this point. He is insecure...poor schmuck. I have never felt so bad for the guys on this show as I have this season. With a couple of exceptions, these women are immature, cold, calculating and downright cruel. Jessie talks about SM posts after the show and Johnny comes out. They have broken up and no longer are engaged. He looks like Rodney...uncomfortable and sad. He says he will do what he has to do while waiting for Victoria. Poor guy looks shell shocked.
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Post by Midol on Nov 23, 2022 2:33:33 GMT
Out comes Victoria. He refuses to even touch her. She is fake acting...Hi, how are you? Like she cares. He tells her, that fits her narrative. She plays the victim, like she doesn't know what he is talking about. She is trying to turn it on him. He is being very nice. Tyler tries to interrupt and she snaps at him. She is such a b*tch. She is trying to fake cry, but she can't even do that. Jesse asks if she is dating Greg...she says yes. Denies cheating before they broke up. Johnny is a class act. She tries to be, but it is clear she isn't.
Greg is here and waiting off stage. No doubt has been prepped by her to present themselves in the best light. Good luck with that.
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Post by Midol on Nov 23, 2022 2:43:23 GMT
Tyler has gone out to comfort Johnny...and we hear that there was sh*t he could have said, but being a nice guy he didn't. Production is throwing her under the bus.
Greg comes out. Says they have been friends for a while...before paradise and they rekindled after. She is so charming swearing up a storm up there on stage that she doesn't give a F**k what anyone else thinks. They got matching tatoos...ciao. They think it means hot...sorry idiots. It is a way to say bye and no doubt that will be happening after a few months.
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Post by Navybelle on Nov 23, 2022 2:46:02 GMT
That Victoria and Greg segment was disgusting, with all her fake lovey-dovey displays. Gross.
I agree, Midol, I feel so bad for most of the guys this season! I didn't even like Johnny or Logan, etc., but these women have been so horrible that I've found myself rooting for the guys and feeling so sorry for them. Who knew that could happen?
Thank goodness for Brandon and Serene! I love how much he loves her.
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Post by Midol on Nov 23, 2022 2:54:37 GMT
Finally Brandon and Serene. Jesse says a paradise first.
The morning after the night before...FS. He is about to propose to the most beautiful woman he ever met. They are so sweet. Thank goodness, but even they can't erase the disgust that Victoria brought.
He is crying when he sees her coming and they are kissing even before they say anything. Jesse tries to convince them to get married. Don't do it. You want your families there and better than a cheap BIP wedding.
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