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Post by MissGriss on Apr 6, 2021 6:19:25 GMT
Yeah. I thought the same thing when I saw where the bedrooms were.
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Post by Amy Lee on Apr 7, 2021 17:51:52 GMT
Well, it appears that Matt is over whatever hurt he was feeling. Per Reality Steve: It’s been a while but here’s some news: Matt and Rachael? Yeah, they’re not over. They’re currently in New York together. FYI |
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Post by waywyrd on Apr 7, 2021 19:56:19 GMT
Hm. Maybe there was something there after all. *shrug*
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Post by MissGriss on Apr 7, 2021 21:07:01 GMT
I had the feeling that they really did care for each other. If they do, I hope they can work it out, but that will definitely have to involve the hard conversations they clearly hadn't had before the sh%t hit the fan. Wishing then all the best!
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Post by MissGriss on Apr 10, 2021 0:41:33 GMT
So I'm too lazy to find one and post it here, but I've seen several articles saying that Rachael was just in New York visiting friends and asked to get together. They aren't reuniting as a couple, though they have stayed in touch as friends. I must say that they aren't very media savvy (or are VERY media savvy) if they went out in public together while reconnecting. Did they really think no one would see them and snap a picture? Or maybe they knew exactly what would happen and enjoyed fueling the questions that would inevitably be asked. EDITED TO ADD: Hmm. I just saw this US Magazine article, and it seems things were murkier than the other articles led us to believe. Rachael Kirkconnell Is ‘Very Emotional’ After Learning Matt James Has Moved On: It Was a ‘Big Miscommunication Between Them’ |
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Post by Realitychick on Apr 10, 2021 0:57:57 GMT
So I'm too lazy to find one and post it here, but I've seen several articles saying that Rachael was just in New York visiting friends and asked to get together. They aren't reuniting as a couple, though they have stayed in touch as friends. I must say that they aren't very media savvy (or are VERY media savvy) if they went out in public together while reconnecting. Did they really think no one would see them and snap a picture? Or maybe they knew exactly what would happen and enjoyed fueling the questions that would inevitably be asked. EDITED TO ADD: Hmm. I just saw this US Magazine article, and it seems things were murkier than the other articles led us to believe. Rachael Kirkconnell Is ‘Very Emotional’ After Learning Matt James Has Moved On: It Was a ‘Big Miscommunication Between Them’ I just watched Reality Steve Instagram Live and there is so much drama with Matt , Rachel and a woman named Grace. Apparently he was talking to both of them at same time and telling Rachel he wanted to be with her but also asking Grace to see him and “hang out” a day before seeing Rachel in NY. Very messy. |
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Post by MissGriss on Apr 10, 2021 6:13:12 GMT
Wow! You weren't kidding about the drama Realitychick . Matt's just an out-and-out liar and a player and apparently not very good at either. Good on Grace for blowing the whistle on him! Also, there's a second IG live where Grace came on with Reality Steve to give a little more info. |
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Post by Cuddles on Apr 12, 2021 22:23:01 GMT
Seems like Clare was correct when she raised suspicion about Matt James before the start of her season. His intentions are all over the place. Still not sure why he felt the need to lay out his dad on national television, either.
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Post by MissGriss on Apr 13, 2021 1:13:24 GMT
Seems like Clare was correct when she raised suspicion about Matt James before the start of her season. His intentions are all over the place. Still not sure why he felt the need to lay out his dad on national television, either. I don't blame Matt for the way his conversation with his father was presented on the show. That's on the producers. I'm pretty sure it was represented to both of them as a reconciliation thing and then the producers used the parts that made his dad look the worst they could. Bad move on their part. |
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Post by Cuddles on Apr 13, 2021 11:51:03 GMT
Although I know/we all know that the show manipulates, so did Matt. And if that hadn't sunk in before his season started, it definitely had to have before his dad arrived. Just think about how much chaos had been thrown his way up to that point! As Rachel Lindsay stated, Matt needed to have that conversation with his dad but he shouldn't have allowed it to be filmed.
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Post by MissScarlet on Apr 13, 2021 17:37:29 GMT
One thing really bugged me about ATFR.
We knew all about the Rachael scandal long before this. It's been all around the internet & media for a long time. You can't tell me for a minute that Matt didn't see all the same stuff we did. He knew!
So why did he wait 'till the day ATFR was supposed to film to break up with her?
We kept hearing "not a problem", "they're fine", "they're good", "they're strong".
So why did he all of a sudden do an abrupt about face at the last possible minute?
I think it was because he was trying to milk this thing for all it was worth. Plus in the end to save his brand. He didn't care about anything else, just how HE came off looking in the whole thing.
That's what he was there for all along.
Clare was right.
Rachael is far better off staying far far away from this guy.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 13, 2021 18:32:01 GMT
Although I know/we all know that the show manipulates, so did Matt. And if that hadn't sunk in before his season started, it definitely had to have before his dad arrived. Just think about how much chaos had been thrown his way up to that point! As Rachel Lindsay stated, Matt needed to have that conversation with his dad but he shouldn't have allowed it to be filmed. He fooled me, until I read s few things about him.  |
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Post by MFWalkoff on Apr 14, 2021 12:00:09 GMT
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Post by Cuddles on Apr 14, 2021 12:29:32 GMT
I caught your post just in the nick of time. Ran for the remote and watched what he had to say. Thanks! |
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Post by SummerSue on Apr 14, 2021 13:07:45 GMT
I just saw an article and was coming on here to see if anyone has posted it. Definitely explains a lot about him, especially the kissing comments from some of the women on his season  . Also explains why he and Cassie decided to part as friends and that's okay! 
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Post by acookertv on Apr 14, 2021 14:11:41 GMT
I've been thinking about what a huge deal the show and fans made over his being a virgin. I thought it was unfair to him back then, but now that we know the rest of the story, I cannot imagine how that added to his struggle. Thank God the suicide attempt he admitted to was unsuccessful. His story can serve as a reminder that when we gossip and react to various reality exploits, first and foremost we're talking about human beings.
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Post by Amy Lee on Apr 14, 2021 15:55:12 GMT
I wish him well. I can't begin to imagine his internal conflict.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 14, 2021 16:18:43 GMT
I wish him well. I can't begin to imagine his internal conflict. No , I can't. I always liked Colton, now I just hope, he can live a happier life. |
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Post by Kao on Apr 14, 2021 18:34:46 GMT
He's still a creep who stalked Cassie and was a mess. While I can understand and appreciate the struggle of being in the closet (especially since he's from a religious household), that does NOT make you entitled to waste a woman's time or play with her emotions. He would have married that woman and had children with her, all while being on the downlow. I'm guessing that his announcement was made with the purpose of deflecting attention away from the stalking charges/order of protection.
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Post by Critical on Apr 14, 2021 18:41:43 GMT
Not surprised in the least. I've been posting for years that he needed to come out. He hasn't been officially out, but when you are a semi-public figure and go on dates in restaurants when other men, people notice. I'm glad he's finally come out, but he hurt a lot of people before he finally did so. Obviously, it's everyone's personal choice about whether or not to come out, but most folks don't go on a TV dating show and play it straight to try to hide who they are (either from others or from themselves). I wish him well, but I'm still not a fan. He behaved pretty selfishly for a long time. As several gossip sites I follow have said over the years, he may have been a virgin with women, but.... I've also read rumors that he wants to get ABC to cast him as the Bachelor again, but with men. At this point, nothing would surprise me. ETA: Now I'm reading that Colton's got a Netflix series about coming out. Of course there's money and cameras involved  ETA2: From an item on Blind Gossip (originally from last April, but updated this morning):
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Post by Kao on Apr 14, 2021 18:46:44 GMT
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Post by Cuddles on Apr 14, 2021 19:01:28 GMT
I don't know how one could know that Colton was gay when he wasn't even sure. Pretty sure he and Cassie were deeply connected; what form that took and for how long doesn't really matter. And maybe their breakup was a bit messy, but she dropped all of her accusations before it went to court so one has to wonder what was fact and what was fiction. And honestly it's likely that there was some puling and tugging at the end because it was becoming apparent to both of them that something was off... maybe she threatened to expose him before he was ready and maybe that's why he dropped by her parents' house unannounced. Maybe she was worried about how she'd look as a girl who was dating a gay guy and she was calling the shots more than he was. I don't know. There was concern on her part that he was going to write something negative about her in a book and that never made sense. He has never once said anything negative about her.
Two young people trying to find their way, that's all I see.
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Post by Critical on Apr 14, 2021 19:02:23 GMT
Exactly. It's not about him just coming out and "living his truth." It's about a paycheck and the attention.
I just watched part of the interview where he says he's known he was gay for YEARS. He knew he was gay when he went on the Bach'ette and when he was cast as the Bachelor. If I was one of those women he led on, I'd be furious. This wasn't just him dating a few women in high school and college while trying to figure things out. Heck, I was in that position in high school and the guy took me to prom! I'm not mad about it and I wasn't mad then. We were kids. Colton is not a kid.
Meanwhile, all of these people are congratulating him and patting him on the back He's had a million opportunities to come out. Before he went on The Bachelorette, before he was cast as the Bachelor, before he went on BIP, before before before. Good for him to not be lying any more, but he doesn't get a pass on dragging so many people into his self loathing.
In that interview, he said something about being really honest. But how would we know?
Obviously, it's a personal choice about when and if to come out. It's also a personal choice to do everything he did, hurt all the people he hurt and mislead all the people he misled PUBLICLY. Definitely will NOT be watching his Netflix show.
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Post by Critical on Apr 14, 2021 19:02:49 GMT
I don't know how one could know that Colton was gay when he wasn't even sure. Pretty sure he and Cassie were deeply connected; what form that took and for how long doesn't really matter. And maybe their breakup was a bit messy, but she dropped all of her accusations before it went to court so one has to wonder what was fact and what was fiction. And honestly it's likely that there was some puling and tugging at the end because it was becoming apparent to both of them that something was off... maybe she threatened to expose him before he was ready and maybe that's why he dropped by her parents' house unannounced. Maybe she was worried about how she'd look as a girl who was dating a gay guy and she was calling the shots more than he was. I don't know. There was concern on her part that he was going to write something negative about her in a book and that never made sense. He has never once said anything negative about her. Two young people trying to find their way, that's all I see. In the interview, he said he knew he was gay in high school. |
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Post by Cuddles on Apr 14, 2021 19:12:16 GMT
I don't know how one could know that Colton was gay when he wasn't even sure. Pretty sure he and Cassie were deeply connected; what form that took and for how long doesn't really matter. And maybe their breakup was a bit messy, but she dropped all of her accusations before it went to court so one has to wonder what was fact and what was fiction. And honestly it's likely that there was some puling and tugging at the end because it was becoming apparent to both of them that something was off... maybe she threatened to expose him before he was ready and maybe that's why he dropped by her parents' house unannounced. Maybe she was worried about how she'd look as a girl who was dating a gay guy and she was calling the shots more than he was. I don't know. There was concern on her part that he was going to write something negative about her in a book and that never made sense. He has never once said anything negative about her. Two young people trying to find their way, that's all I see. In the interview, he said he knew he was gay in high school. He said he came to terms with it earlier this year. That's when the struggle in his head and his heart ended. That's when he owned it and accepted it. That's the storyline for most. |
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Post by Mikesgirl on Apr 14, 2021 19:22:25 GMT
On GMA he said he came to terms with this earlier this year. That he has been running from it for years. He thought he would rather die than think of himself as gay. In retrospect, I think he was afraid to accept it in previous years, he had an "internal fight" with himself; but finally came to terms with it this past year. He was raised Catholic, and for him this was going against his beliefs. He did the interview, because he has the love and support from his family and friends. It was a good interview and I respect him for doing it. (Thanks MFW for posting it). GMA Interview Robin and Colton |
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Post by waywyrd on Apr 14, 2021 19:24:46 GMT
I mean, people were thinking something was up with him when he was Bachelor, so I'm not surprised.
I am surprised at how douche-y he's turned out to be. I'm glad he can be his true self now, but I haven't forgotten what he did to Cassie, and oh look, a Netflix show coming out soon after he makes this announcement? Psh. I won't watch it.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 14, 2021 19:35:44 GMT
I don't know how one could know that Colton was gay when he wasn't even sure. Pretty sure he and Cassie were deeply connected; what form that took and for how long doesn't really matter. And maybe their breakup was a bit messy, but she dropped all of her accusations before it went to court so one has to wonder what was fact and what was fiction. And honestly it's likely that there was some puling and tugging at the end because it was becoming apparent to both of them that something was off... maybe she threatened to expose him before he was ready and maybe that's why he dropped by her parents' house unannounced. Maybe she was worried about how she'd look as a girl who was dating a gay guy and she was calling the shots more than he was. I don't know. There was concern on her part that he was going to write something negative about her in a book and that never made sense. He has never once said anything negative about her. Two young people trying to find their way, that's all I see. Yes me too. I wonder, as I always do, if and what the show knew? Remember on BIP how much that one girl loved him? Followed him.. Like I said, both Cassie and Colton seem happy now. Getting there was messy, but it's over.. |
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Post by Mikesgirl on Apr 14, 2021 19:37:10 GMT
I wish him only the very best! He has suffered unnecessarily for so long. He is finally learning to not just 'accept' who he is, but to embrace it. Doing it publicly takes courage. I don't know if Cassie was the one who made the difference for him, but he deserves to be free at last. I, 100% support and respect him for being himself, and for acknowledging being gay. The coming out publicly is, hopefully, inspiring for others.
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Post by Critical on Apr 14, 2021 20:04:47 GMT
In the interview, he said he knew he was gay in high school. He said he came to terms with it earlier this year. That's when the struggle in his head and his heart ended. That's when he owned it and accepted it. That's the storyline for most. Coming to terms with something and KNOWING it are two different things. Going on dates with men in public and (reportedly) having sex with men doesn't seem like someone who isn't sure about their sexuality. He literally said that he knew he was gay in high school - he was more attracted to men and boys and not to women. That's not vague.
He literally said that he was a virgin because he was gay. My comment is that he was a virgin with women. He even specifically said that he's never had an emotional relationship with another man.
But fine, maybe he wasn't sure he was gay (even though he specifically said he knew he was). What moral, kind person thinks the best way to figure out whether he's gay or not is to go on the biggest dating show on TV and date several dozen women, most if not all of whom are thinking they might be your wife some day?
The fact that many contestants on the Bach franchise end up having to quit their jobs or at least take a leave of absence, means that all those women not only put themselves out there personally and emotionally for Colton, but they lost money and possibly a job. My mom joked that they should file a class action suit. Of course, when you go on one of these shows, you know that your chances of being the final one and finding your life partner are pretty low. In the case of the women on Colton's season, their chances were NIL. That's a problem.
IMO, the terms he was speaking about coming to terms with were the financial ones with Netflix. I'd guess that, without that deal, he would have stayed in the closet, at least until another deal came along. Maybe he shopped around his story to Netflix when it became obvious that Fleiss wasn't going to have him come back for another Bach season. Whatever the case may be, Colton cares about being famous and this announcement has brought him the attention he craves.
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