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Post by Midol on Jul 10, 2018 2:23:31 GMT
Welcome to Paradise Wills.
Stop. What is Wills doing? I bet he was feeling sick and they just made it look like he was crying.
Who doesn't want her to pick their family member?
Can I just slap Tia? Does she now want Colton? Please....
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Post by waywyrd on Jul 10, 2018 2:24:37 GMT
Why do they keep dragging those girls back into it?
Poor Wills, I sorta did think she was going to take him over Jason.
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Post by fang2170 on Jul 10, 2018 2:24:41 GMT
Jason's got some serious making-up-time to do. If he doesn't deliver a "I Love You" by next week, he'll be gone too. Still feeling really sad for Wills right now. He is hurting Very hurt, he did not see that coming.. I think I'd be okay seeing Wills as The Bachelor What do you think of those previews for next week? Tia has "something to tell" Becca. Oh no, it HAS be about Colton!
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Post by dagwood on Jul 10, 2018 2:25:03 GMT
I feel bad for Colton, having to sit there and wait while Becca absorbs "The Big News". Good grief, he's a virgin, not an axe murderer!! This is what I said, too. It's not an earth shattering confession.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Jul 10, 2018 2:25:15 GMT
Jason, she wants to hear ILY dummy. It's going to come down to whether Wills tells her or not. OH! And I just heard him say it! So Jason may be going home Wills told her he was falling in love with her last week. No matter. My guy Jason takes the last hometown 🌹.
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Post by Midol on Jul 10, 2018 2:26:07 GMT
Awww, poor Wills!! He looks heartbroken! I know! Omg he wouldnt let them see him cry either... I don't think he was crying. I think it was just made to look that way. I bet he was probably just feeling ill or asked them to stop so he could go to the bathroom.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Jul 10, 2018 2:27:15 GMT
Any guesses as to why Tia comes back? Obviously it has to do with Colton.
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Post by FannyMare on Jul 10, 2018 2:27:43 GMT
I know! Omg he wouldnt let them see him cry either... I don't think he was crying. I think it was just made to look that way. I bet he was probably just feeling ill or asked them to stop so he could go to the bathroom. Your heartless.. I had the CC on, he was crying...: ( I love Wills..
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Post by fang2170 on Jul 10, 2018 2:28:02 GMT
It's going to come down to whether Wills tells her or not. OH! And I just heard him say it! So Jason may be going home Wills told her he was falling in love with her last week. No matter. My guy Jason takes the last hometown 🌹. I like Jason too. I've predicted him as one of the F4 for some time now. He will have to make some kind of commitment soon though!
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Post by Midol on Jul 10, 2018 2:30:22 GMT
Your heartless.. I had the CC on, he was crying...: ( I love Wills.. Editing. How many times have we heard they insert kissing/smacking noises. I hope they ask him about it in interviews.
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Post by FannyMare on Jul 10, 2018 2:30:28 GMT
Any guesses as to why Tia comes back? Obviously it has to do with Colton. Maybe she has changed her mind , she's not okay with Colton with Becca...?.. Or maybe its the show messing with is...
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Post by FannyMare on Jul 10, 2018 2:31:07 GMT
Your heartless.. I had the CC on, he was crying...: ( I love Wills.. Editing. How many times have we heard they insert kissing/smacking noises. I hope they ask him about it in interviews. Okay, he was throwing up!
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Jul 10, 2018 2:50:31 GMT
Any guesses as to why Tia comes back? Obviously it has to do with Colton. Maybe she has changed her mind , she's not okay with Colton with Becca...?.. Or maybe its the show messing with is... I am wondering of maybe there was more to their relationship than either of them admitted to Becca.
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Post by FannyMare on Jul 10, 2018 3:03:52 GMT
Maybe she has changed her mind , she's not okay with Colton with Becca...?.. Or maybe its the show messing with is... I am wondering of maybe there was more to their relationship than either of them admitted to Becca. There was no sex though..
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Post by 1dog2kids on Jul 10, 2018 3:31:42 GMT
I felt so bad for Wills! I thought for sure Jason was a goner, but I'm so glad he is still around! He's my choice over Blake and Garrett.
Becca looked lovely tonight, especially in the white dress she wore in the evening portion of the group date.
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Post by MissScarlet on Jul 10, 2018 5:20:17 GMT
And here we go, finally out of the country. Although the Bahamas just isn't the "foreign" I was hoping for. It's kind of like saying you're taking a trip to go next door & visit your next door neighbor. So Colton's a virgin. It bothers me that the show has to make it a plot line. First off, that's private. I don't like the way the show treats that topic. As if it's some type of infirmity or disability. Or, as someone said earlier in the thread, like he's an axe murderer. Or an ex-con. "There's only a handful of people who know." Well, not anymore. EVERYBODY knows now! Anyhow, glad he got the rose. That would have been an insulting reason not to give him one. Although, her last "fiancé" was the franchise's man wh***. Once again, the way she is with Garrett is totally different than the way she is with the others. There's a comfort & snuggliness there. The mic wire down his back was a bit over obvious. I noticed it came & went off & on through the date. They took it off him if they weren't having a conversation. It made me think they were prompted not to speak when they had it off. Blake is really irritatingly whiny tonight. I wonder if he's that insecure & possessive & whiny in real life. Not a good look. Odd that she would spend so much time talking about having a relationship with the other guys & sympathizing with Arie (I'm so sick of hearing his name). She didn't do that on the first 2 dates. It almost felt like she was leading up to letting him go. Way to throw your mother under the bus on national TV. I wonder if she had to give permission to allow that. It sure made her look like the town trash. Whoa! Where did that come from? All of a sudden she has these strong feelings for him & can see herself spending her life with him. I sure haven't seen that coming. They've spent so little time together. I did notice the way she worded that she'd "like to be able to tell him" that she loves him too. As if she can't because she doesn't really feel it. Sounds like she was making sound bites she was prompted to, in order to mislead the viewers. The 3 guys walking on the beach to the 3 on1 date looked like they were walking to their doom. Once again with Leo she's talking about her relationships with the other guys. She talked about the Home Town Dates in a very generic way. Not personal at all. I saw it coming a mile away when she dumped him. Poor Leo. Left alone walking on the beach as she rode off in the boat with the other guys with him watching. Uh Oh. She's telling Jason their relationship is moving more slowly than the others. Red Flag. Red Flag. For some reason Wills seems like the most adult of all the guys tonight. Maybe it's his voice. I love his voice. Bye bye sweet Wills. I would have picked you for a Home Town Date. Hmmmm. There's always a weird or awkward family edit in the Home Town Date every season. I didn't get any indication as to who it will be this year. I'm not looking forward to interfering Tia coming back again, and again, and again. I smell Producer setup. Maybe she was actually going to send Colton home tonight, but the Producers had Tia planned & scheduled, so told her to keep him. Maybe that's why she was gone from the table so long on her date with Colton. Well, here we are, going to home town dates & they haven't even gone overseas. Bargain basement season. Hopefully we'll get a nice romantic European country for Fantasy Dates. I wouldn't bet on it though. Not the way this season is going.
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Post by babbred on Jul 10, 2018 17:09:14 GMT
And here we go, finally out of the country. Although the Bahamas just isn't the "foreign" I was hoping for. It's kind of like saying you're taking a trip to go next door & visit your next door neighbor. I know. When I looked on the map and saw how close they were to Florida, I thought, "If they want to save money why not just charter a boat from the Keys and sail there?"
It always floors me when somebody on this show says, "You know, I've never told anybody this..." Good grief, has any lead (male or female) ever talked about the lead who dumped them this much? I mean, seriously. Has this ever been done before? Because I sure can't remember it happening. And it's driving me crazy. I really hope this is a producer-driven thing. If not, then whoever Becca lands might be in trouble. If you're GF/BF is continually thinking about their ex-, then they're not ready for a relationship with you. Sadly, I know this from experience. For some reason, this reminds me of that old show "Lost in Space." Remember the robot? "Danger! Danger, Will Robinson!" It looked like her father was telling Becca "I don't think you should pick him." So who rubbed Dad the wrong way? Listen to your parents, Becca. My mother is very outspoken. I knew Hubby was the One when he passed the gauntlet of meeting her.
Well, there's Cuba next door. Havana is pretty historic. Or the Virgin Islands are just a stone's throw away. If you want to travel some, then keep going and you'll run into Venezuela. I'm sure Caracas looks nice.
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Post by FannyMare on Jul 10, 2018 17:42:12 GMT
I felt so bad for Wills! I thought for sure Jason was a goner, but I'm so glad he is still around! He's my choice over Blake and Garrett. Becca looked lovely tonight, especially in the white dress she wore in the evening portion of the group date. She dresses a lot in sequins, I like her in plainer dresses..she has the height and figure to carry them off. I like Jason, is he anything special? To me he's the best of the four left, but that doesn't say much..
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Post by bloomers on Jul 10, 2018 18:50:52 GMT
Becca was especially lovely with her hair straight, straight and blowing back away from her face, and in the ponytail.
She is very, very fond of Blake; that said, he comes across as more needy with her than the others - much more. He was trying very hard almost to frustration to get her to understand and FEEL how he was feeling. She understood, but she wanted him to know, too, her position, and he was not happy with that. She was quite clear with what she was telling him. My husband - first time watcher kept pointing out she was happy that he was telling her he was in love with her, etc. I kept pointing out to notice that she was not saying it back. She was saying something like, "You are making my heart happy!"
Garret is fun, and once he assures her of her fears, he sails through.
Colton? She wants to touch him! She has talked about him physically almost non-stopped, so when he dropped the Virgin bombshell on her, it blew her back. That was not what she expected or wanted to hear. When she came back, he clarified that he was not waiting for marriage but was waiting for the right person and moment. When he said that, she gave him the rose.
Leo more or less indicated to her that he might not be ready to propose at the end of this. Since we heard her tell Chris Harrison that she expects a proposal at the end of this, Leo goes home.
She tells Jason that he is not as far along as the other guys. He explains why. Remember now, she has told us several times what she thinks of Jason physically. She is not ready to let go of Jason.
Sweetheart quiet, reserved, confident Will who has already told her he has fallen for her has put it all on the line. She is in a dilemma. However, she has a bit of a thing going on for Jason, and she can't give them both a rose, so she gives Jason the rose, and Will goes home brokenhearted.
Tia comes back next week which is always a built in potential threat to Colton. So what's up with that?
The HTs are always a risk. As usual they have made them look ominous. They may or they may not be, but they certainly will not all be!
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Post by bloomers on Jul 10, 2018 18:53:24 GMT
Welcome to Paradise Wills. Stop. What is Wills doing? I bet he was feeling sick and they just made it look like he was crying. Who doesn't want her to pick their family member? Can I just slap Tia? Does she now want Colton? Please.... Is Wills going to be on BIP?
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Post by FannyMare on Jul 10, 2018 19:12:47 GMT
They ply with booze, don't let them eat, and get the odd reactions we see., It's not often the families come off looking really good, I can only think of a handful..it's not something I'd put my family through. How many times did we see Nick's family, and his mothers tears...;(
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Post by babbred on Jul 10, 2018 19:46:32 GMT
They ply with booze, don't let them eat, and get the odd reactions we see., It's not often the families come off looking really good, I can only think of a handful..it's not something I'd put my family through. How many times did we see Nick's family, and his mothers tears...;(
Remember several seasons ago one woman's family refused to participate on the Bachelor? She had to use her friends as a surrogate family. (It was that infamous season when Jason proposed to her but then quietly dumped her later and married his #2.) At the time, I thought that was terrible of her family to do that. Over the years, though, I've kind of mellowed. I can kind of understand why they didn't want to be paraded on national TV like they were on some freak show.
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Post by mayamaisha on Jul 10, 2018 22:31:42 GMT
I feel bad for Colton, having to sit there and wait while Becca absorbs "The Big News". Good grief, he's a virgin, not an axe murderer!!
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Post by mayamaisha on Jul 10, 2018 22:35:53 GMT
I feel bad for Colton, having to sit there and wait while Becca absorbs "The Big News". Good grief, he's a virgin, not an axe murderer!! Right? I don't get why it's such a big deal. If she ends up marrying him, she can teach him however she pleases.
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Post by Navybelle on Jul 11, 2018 2:12:03 GMT
I believe the big deal is completely by the show.
For one thing, here's her tweet about it:
Rebecca Kufrin @thebkoof Jul 9 For the record I think I got up just to go to the bathroom sooooo...🤷🏻♀️
And the thing that convinces me that they did this for drama and to get people talking about the show/Becca, is that so many people have fallen for it!!! That's the reason they do their tricky editing, because look at the uproar and reaction this one's gotten. Sure, some people say she's just covering now, but I say the evidence is there that NO ONE would be talking about her reaction if she'd just sat there quietly and reacted with only the words we heard.
This show got what they wanted: they'll play up the virginity ad nauseum, and have Becca look like she needs a moment about it, and then the watching public will go wild. And they did. She could've gotten up an hour after he told her, and they just edited it to go right after his disclosure - - we all know they do things to make us believe things that aren't true, but yet people fall for it. Every time. So, they get what they want. They're probably laughing and loving all of this attention. Even Rachel's blog has it in the title, "Why did she react the way she did?" In the article she just says that it didn't call for much pondering and deep thought, and referred to the "dramatics" of her leaving the table. Which again, I think, was NOT in reaction to him telling her his (badly kept) secret.
Oh, and after Becca tweeted that, Colton said "Can confirm."
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Post by FannyMare on Jul 11, 2018 3:38:56 GMT
I believe the big deal is completely by the show. For one thing, here's her tweet about it: Rebecca Kufrin @thebkoof Jul 9 For the record I think I got up just to go to the bathroom sooooo...🤷🏻♀️And the thing that convinces me that they did this for drama and to get people talking about the show/Becca, is that so many people have fallen for it!!! That's the reason they do their tricky editing, because look at the uproar and reaction this one's gotten. Sure, some people say she's just covering now, but I say the evidence is there that NO ONE would be talking about her reaction if she'd just sat there quietly and reacted with only the words we heard. This show got what they wanted: they'll play up the virginity ad nauseum, and have Becca look like she needs a moment about it, and then the watching public will go wild. And they did. She could've gotten up an hour after he told her, and they just edited it to go right after his disclosure - - we all know they do things to make us believe things that aren't true, but yet people fall for it. Every time. So, they get what they want. They're probably laughing and loving all of this attention. Even Rachel's blog has it in the title, "Why did she react the way she did?" In the article she just says that it didn't call for much pondering and deep thought, and referred to the "dramatics" of her leaving the table. Which again, I think, was NOT in reaction to him telling her his (badly kept) secret. Oh, and after Becca tweeted that, Colton said "Can confirm." I believe her. But as soon as he said it, her mind was going a mile a minute. She did not look happy.jmho, This show and Ashley I has been playing up her virginity like it was a prize..and she went along with it..I don't understand why something so private is made to feel tacky..
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Post by Cuddles on Jul 11, 2018 13:09:43 GMT
That's good to hear, Navybelle. I'm sorry for both of them that the whole thing was portrayed in such an unflattering light. But something makes me feel like we saw Becca talking about what she learned in one of those side interview things they do and I remember thinking she kind of had a bad attitude about it then, too... and didn't Colton say in his side interview that she didn't take it well and he had regret? Maybe i'm remembering it all wrong because I was flummoxed. I will rewatch with new perspective and see if I get better vibes.
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Post by bloomers on Jul 11, 2018 16:58:12 GMT
I can never understand why any of them even feel like they have to reveal such intimate, private information to ANYONE to begin with....including the producers.
They either want you for the show, or they don't. If you get to the Fantasy Suite, then you reveal that in private to the lead. Whatever will be will be from that point on.
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Post by MissScarlet on Jul 11, 2018 17:34:14 GMT
From what little I know, TPTB, during casting, ask a lot of extremely intrusive & even tasteless questions of the potential cast members. Very sexually related, as in number of sexual partners; most recent sexual experience; ever have a 3 way; ever with someone vastly older (or younger); who in the waiting room would you like to do it with; ever have any type of STD; etc. It's obvious the reason for this is to use that information against the cast member to embarrass or humiliate them. Colton was set up for this long in advance.
TPTB in this show are swine.
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Post by bloomers on Jul 11, 2018 20:27:53 GMT
From what little I know, TPTB, during casting, ask a lot of extremely intrusive & even tasteless questions of the potential cast members. Very sexually related, as in number of sexual partners; most recent sexual experience; ever have a 3 way; ever with someone vastly older (or younger); who in the waiting room would you like to do it with; ever have any type of STD; etc. It's obvious the reason for this is to use that information against the cast member to embarrass or humiliate them. Colton was set up for this long in advance. TPTB in this show are swine. Some of those questions are imperative. They have to know about STDs; in fact, they do blood work to check for that. I suppose they could ask about your "dating" patterns reasonably enough as to age, etc. However, this 3 way business and that kind of stuff? What??? Some of those things, I think you could say," Look, I am not into 3 ways, counting partners, and that sort of thing. I have a normal love life, and I am uncomfortable answering some of these questions."
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