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Post by Arielflies on Jan 16, 2022 20:27:41 GMT
Yes. He always had a pale, thin look. I also thought him unwell. He didn't seem to join in his older brothers robust games.
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Post by acookertv on Jan 16, 2022 23:14:03 GMT
I’m a little confused as to how Edward and Sophie ended up in the sexual assault thread.
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Post by Arielflies on Jan 17, 2022 1:59:29 GMT
It morphed from talk about Andrew's situation.
It's now ended.
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Post by MissGriss on Jan 17, 2022 8:05:48 GMT
I’m a little confused as to how Edward and Sophie ended up in the sexual assault thread. Some of the recent posts about Andrew started in the Royals thread and got moved over here. It's possible that one of those posts mentioned Edward or Sophie and.... |
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Post by JustJuls on Jan 17, 2022 8:24:53 GMT
I didn't move any posts about Edward or Sophie. Andrew here....all other royal family members there. Easy peasy  |
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Post by Arielflies on Jan 17, 2022 16:54:32 GMT
It morphed from talk about Andrew's situation. It's now ended.Easy peasy |
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Post by Cuddles on Jan 26, 2022 20:54:01 GMT
Prince Andrew says game on as he demands a trial by jury.
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Post by Arielflies on Jan 26, 2022 21:12:43 GMT
What is source?
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Post by Cuddles on Jan 26, 2022 21:17:05 GMT
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Post by Arielflies on Jan 26, 2022 21:19:03 GMT
Bold...but probably his only move left.
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Post by acookertv on Jan 26, 2022 21:24:24 GMT
I think it's a sign that his defense plan is going to be to try to tear Virginia Giuffre apart and try to turn a jury against her.
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Post by Cuddles on Jan 26, 2022 21:43:46 GMT
I think it's a sign that his defense plan is going to be to try to tear Virginia Giuffre apart and try to turn a jury against her. ... not a reach, seeing that's exactly what Giuffre's attorneys said: “Prince Andrew’s Answer continues his approach of denying any knowledge or information concerning the claims against him, and purporting to blame the victim of the abuse for somehow bringing it on herself. “We look forward to confronting Prince Andrew with his denials and attempts to blame Ms Giuffre for her own abuse at his deposition and at trial,” their statement also said. |
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Post by Arielflies on Feb 15, 2022 18:48:19 GMT
It's over! The prince bought his way out.
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Prince Andrew reaches a settlement with Virginia Giuffre in sexual abuse lawsuit
Updated February 15, 202212:14 PM ET
The agreement includes a stipulation that Prince Andrew will make a substantial donation to Virginia Giuffre's charity in support of victims' rights.
Virginia Giuffre and Prince Andrew have agreed to a settlement that will end Giuffre's lawsuit, which had accused Andrew of sexually abusing her when she was a minor. The two sides of the legal dispute jointly informed a federal court about the development on Tuesday.
Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed. It includes a stipulation that the Duke of York will "make a substantial donation to Ms. Giuffre's charity in support of victims' rights," according to a document filed by David Boies, an attorney for Giuffre.
The parties expect to file to dismiss the case within the next 30 days, when Giuffre confirms receipt of the settlement, Boies said.
News of the deal comes one month after a federal judge denied Andrew's request to dismiss Giuffre's case. Andrew's lawyers had argued that Giuffre was precluded from suing him because of an earlier settlement she had reached with the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein — whom Giuffre says arranged for Andrew to sexually abuse her when she was a minor.
Andrew has strongly denied the allegations against him, stating that he did not participate in the sexual exploitation of minors or witness such behavior. Tuesday's court filing touches on his very public denials of Giuffre's accusations.
"Prince Andrew has never intended to malign Ms. Giuffre's character, and he accepts that she has suffered both as an established victim of abuse and as a result of unfair public attacks," the document states.
Giuffre has said Andrew sexually abused her in London, New York, and Little St. James, Epstein's private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands. Her lawsuit includes the now-famous photo of Andrew with his arm around Giuffre's waist — an image she says was taken shortly before he abused her.
Tuesday's court filing concludes by acknowledging the ordeals suffered by Giuffre and other women, as well as Andrew's friendly relationship with Epstein:
"It is known that Jeffrey Epstein trafficked countless young girls over many years. Prince Andrew regrets his association with Epstein, and commends the bravery of Ms. Giuffre and other survivors in standing up for themselves and others. He pledges to demonstrate his regret for his association with Epstein by supporting the fight against the evils of sex trafficking, and by supporting its victims."
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Post by Cuddles on Feb 15, 2022 18:55:49 GMT
The thing of the matter is now it is never going to be over. But he can pretend. That’s why settlements suck.
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 16, 2022 10:00:33 GMT
I thought she was never going to take any money. Sheesh She's not. He's donating whatever amount they settled on to an organization that protects/supports victims of sexual assault (or something like that). She isn't personally getting any money from what I understand. |
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Post by Cuddles on Feb 16, 2022 13:07:52 GMT
He's so rich and protected he's even been able to muddle the answer to if he is just paying a charity or if he is also paying her.
Despite the fact that some sources aren't specifically saying so, I believe he's also paying her.
This is from an opinion piece in The Washington Post:
Now, under the terms of a tentative agreement announced Tuesday, Prince Andrew will pay Giuffre a “confidential” amount, will donate to a charity “in support of victims’ rights,” and will admit to none of Giuffre’s accusations against him.
And I read a piece at the BBC website that phrased it similarly.
NPR wrote this:
Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed. It includes a stipulation that the Duke of York will "make a substantial donation to Ms. Giuffre's charity in support of victims' rights," according to a document filed by David Boies, an attorney for Giuffre.
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Post by Kao on Feb 16, 2022 14:34:12 GMT
Was the point of this to punish a man for doing wrong or to get a settlement?
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Post by Kao on Feb 16, 2022 15:45:57 GMT
He's so rich and protected he's even been able to muddle the answer to if he is just paying a charity or if he is also paying her. Despite the fact that some sources aren't specifically saying so, I believe he's also paying her. This is from an opinion piece in The Washington Post: Now, under the terms of a tentative agreement announced Tuesday, Prince Andrew will pay Giuffre a “confidential” amount, will donate to a charity “in support of victims’ rights,” and will admit to none of Giuffre’s accusations against him.And I read a piece at the BBC website that phrased it similarly. NPR wrote this: Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed. It includes a stipulation that the Duke of York will "make a substantial donation to Ms. Giuffre's charity in support of victims' rights," according to a document filed by David Boies, an attorney for Giuffre. How on earth could she possibly agree with this, especially since she was trafficked to him for the sole purpose of having sex with a minor?
I don't know, I'm all for making victim's lives easier but this looks bad, especially since she also got a settlement from Epstein as well. It could be that the case boils down to "he said, she said" with no physical proof and this was the best they could do, plus people are terrible and blaming her for what happened. I don't blame her for not wanting to do the whole court thing because people are already calling her a liar and worse and half of these people are women (who should really know better) but if it were me I would leave him out in the wind to twist.
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Post by Cuddles on Feb 16, 2022 16:28:56 GMT
After his joke of a defense that he can't sweat, and his laughable desire to obtain the photo of him with her in an effort to "prove" that it was a fake, you'd think everyone would see this for what it is, but with this settlement, this stays up for debate. Idk why she went this route. I sure as heck wouldn't have. She had it in the bag, if you ask me. Yeah, it would've been painful, but I would've wanted to be/needed to be that grown-up woman saving my former little-girl self by dragging him through the process, while making it clear to all that no matter how rich or famous you are, you don't get to commit sick crimes.
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Post by MissScarlet on Feb 16, 2022 20:33:08 GMT
the Duke of York will "make a substantial donation to Ms. Giuffre's charity in support of victims' rights,"
I noticed this in both the first report of the settlement & all the others. It jumped right out at me.
NOT an established victims' rights charity, but Ms Giuffre's charity. An anonymous unnamed charity, apparently set up by & controlled by her. Very vague.
Hmmmmmm Something smells very fishy about this.
Sounds like she's in for a huge payoff after all, and is using "her" charity as a cover. And not a very convincing one.
She already took one large buyoff from Epstein, and now she gets another one.
Charity? Pffft!
I don't think Andrew cares. He just wants this to go away.
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 17, 2022 7:47:37 GMT
It's never going away, even if he doesn't have to admit to anything. It's pretty clear to everyone that he's guilty. He's done as a royal. This settlement isn't going to fix that. His reputation is toast.
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Post by Kao on Feb 17, 2022 15:05:12 GMT
Upon doing more reading, I found out that this was a civil suit (which always is monetary and the next stop after a criminal suit). The statue of limitations had passed for him to be prosecuted criminally so the civil suit was the only option for her, really. He also can't legally say he didn't rape her, which is also good. This is definitely not going away, it doesn't matter if his mama is out here paying off the settlement. On the other hand, there's a lot of people out here caping for him just because he's a royal and saying she's a liar, in it for the money, or...just wanted to have sex with a bunch of older men when she was 14. Sadly, I'm never surprised when people twist themselves into knots explaining away all sorts of vile behavior from a man because we live in a victim-blaming society.
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Post by libgirl2 on Mar 17, 2022 19:53:13 GMT
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Post by dagwood on Mar 18, 2022 19:27:42 GMT
Wow, he doesn't even look like himself anymore.
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Post by Bearcata on Mar 30, 2022 7:12:40 GMT
the Duke of York will "make a substantial donation to Ms. Giuffre's charity in support of victims' rights,"I noticed this in both the first report of the settlement & all the others. It jumped right out at me. NOT an established victims' rights charity, but Ms Giuffre's charity. An anonymous unnamed charity, apparently set up by & controlled by her. Very vague. Hmmmmmm Something smells very fishy about this. Sounds like she's in for a huge payoff after all, and is using "her" charity as a cover. And not a very convincing one. She already took one large buyoff from Epstein, and now she gets another one. Charity? Pffft! I don't think Andrew cares. He just wants this to go away. Who cares what she does with the money. The point is Prince Andrew did wrong, the victim had enough guts and nerve to go after him in the only venue she could and Prince Andrew however loosely has paid for the damage he has done. |
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Post by Critical on Apr 14, 2022 6:03:53 GMT
According to the article, they were halfway through filming and will re-film all of his scenes with a yet-to-be-cat actor. I've always jhis work, but if he was sexually harassing people on set, he needed to go. No mercy  |
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Post by Imperfect1 on Apr 14, 2022 9:30:57 GMT
I remember when Frank Langella played a sexual predator in "Lolita" - and his performance gave me the creeps. Maybe it was a little too close to real life, for comfort.  |
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Post by libgirl2 on Apr 14, 2022 14:03:51 GMT
According to the article, they were halfway through filming and will re-film all of his scenes with a yet-to-be-cat actor. I've always jhis work, but if he was sexually harassing people on set, he needed to go. No mercy Hearing the news this morning, it really made me sad because I always liked him. |
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Post by Arielflies on Apr 14, 2022 15:57:47 GMT
This is beyond sad because peoples' livelihoods have been effected. He was the lead and pivot for the show, which has probably ground to a halt and then more money spent as a new lead is re-filmed in now discarded footage. One man can hurt so many people.
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Post by libgirl2 on Apr 14, 2022 20:19:46 GMT
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