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Post by JosephD on May 19, 2018 15:39:18 GMT
Naked And Afraid - Sundays at 10/9c on The Discovery Channel
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Post by lizard on Jun 18, 2018 23:33:02 GMT
On XL, Lacey is doing a good job of driving everyone crazy.
Lone guy is getting ready to join up with the group. Wonder if they will all then be well fed.
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Post by mayamaisha on Jun 22, 2018 13:31:22 GMT
So glad Lacy tapped out. She plays the victim role very well.
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Post by waywyrd on Jun 22, 2018 13:38:17 GMT
I missed an episode or two. I thought Lacey was getting along with everyone, then I see she pouted off on her own. What happened? Also - Gary is an idiot. An annoying idiot. It was bad enough eating that rotten meat he found, but to keep on harping on the others to eat his rotten meat stew AND to keep chowing down after it made him sick? That's just stupid. And he was totally jealous when Matt showed up (who actually had edible food).
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Post by l144s on Jun 22, 2018 15:20:37 GMT
I must have missed and XL also, the last one I saw Lacey was saying she did not want to share the Boma.
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Post by AZChristian on Jun 22, 2018 19:02:43 GMT
My summary of what happened with Lacey: - She wasn't happy when they joined up with all the other women. In her own words, "I don't get along well with women."
- One of the women (Mel) has been sick most of the time. Lacey told her that she should tap out because she was a burden to the others.
- Mel tapped out, and shortly thereafter, Lacey burned her hand quite badly. She was unable to even open clams when they gathered and cooked a bunch of them. In other words, she became a burden. She then proceeded to complain that no one was helping her.
- She made no effort to be polite to anyone, and even joined in with Gary in eating the bad meat because it further separated her from the others. And she got sick from it.
- She tapped out late at night and didn't bother to say good-bye to anyone.
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Post by l144s on Jun 22, 2018 19:04:54 GMT
Thank you, AZ. She is one classy lady. If there is a reunion, I am sure she will get an earful.
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Post by lizard on Jul 2, 2018 23:49:58 GMT
The lack of food made the homesteaders quite grumpy. I was dissappointed in the lady complaining; but she was very starved. Who knows what any one of us would have been saying if we were in such a horrid condition.
I am glad they all pulled it together and finished. I hope the guy with malaria ended up ok.
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Post by mayamaisha on Jul 3, 2018 11:39:57 GMT
Looking forward to the reunion. Lacy is full of it. She is the problem, not everyone else.
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Post by lizard on Jul 9, 2018 12:52:36 GMT
Since those trips are hard enough as it is, they should not bring Lacy again to add unneeded weight/drama.
When they are working together or happy, that is what makes me happy.
Maybe they will make survivor rules next time like don't poop all over the place smelling up camp. Gary was not ill intentioned; but he was gross. And he had all round poor hygiene practices that could have made people ill. Gary is almost like a human hyena.
They need to put some vegetarians in the regular trips to have some to put in the XL.
Except for Lacy, I would be happy to see any one of this group return to future XLs. I hope they just make decisions consistent with their individual long run health.
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Post by pikachu on Jul 20, 2018 20:41:25 GMT
To me, it often seems like the Primitive Survival Rating of male and female contestants is not equal.
The introductions will be like "Jane has taught an advanced survival skills class for 10 years and spends 4 months of the year backpacking in exotic locations. She begins the challenge with a PSR of 5.2. John has lived in the city all his life and doesn't even know how to cook without a microwave. However, as a kid he once spent the night in a tent in his backyard. He starts the challenge with a PSR of 7.4".
It also seems like the women's scores go down faster than the men's. If a man injures his foot and hangs around the shelter for 4 days unable to help his partner his score might go down by like .4 or .6 but when the same thing happens to a woman, her score will go down by 1 or 2 points.
I haven't yet noticed an episode where I thought the man got a lower beginning score than I thought he would or seemed to get his score lowered more than the woman for no discernible reason but I don't know. I could be wrong.
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Post by boliso on Jul 24, 2018 15:52:38 GMT
none of them know what to take or do. You take a 2 person hammock, made out of 11-strand 750 paracord. That's your cordage and can make over 2000 sq ft of 2" mesh netting. That will feed you handily. :-) Your partner needs to bring a reflectorized tarp, as big as is allowed, probably 12x12. Take the machete as your tool choice. Even if it's really wet,you can roll up in the tarp, and use your body heat to further dry out some feathersticks, taken from the dry core of a round of a dead tree, which you've split open. Once you have those, you can make a bowdrill fire, even if all is wet. You have to know to use "drying cycles' with the spindle and the hearrthboard. When you have netting, you'll be the first to not lose weight on this show. That proven ability will make you a lot of money doing ads, teaching classes, selling books and vids. When you have the tarp and netting for cover and to make clothing and sandals out of, you'll need to do much less work and will suffer much less. If you bank your coals every night, down in a pit, with a vent hole, and have a tarp cover over it, you'll only need to start ONE fire "from scratch". The bedded coals re-ignite easily, even after 10 hours of being "asleep".
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Post by pikachu on Jul 30, 2018 13:19:24 GMT
I watched the Shark Week episode last night. I assume the survivalist weren't allowed to kill the sharks because I kept thinking why aren't they hunting the sharks? They couldn't get to the fish because of all the sharks and they had so many people to feed, one small shark could have fed the whole group! Maybe the producers decided that killing a shark might put too much blood in the water and the other sharks would tear it up so the people couldn't eat it anyway.
I don't understand why they purposefully make the extraction points so dangerous. It's already hard enough to endure for the length of the challenge. Then to force the contestants to make a long trek and/or cross an area with dangerous animals or obstacles at the end when they're probably at their weakest point seems barbaric.
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Post by boliso on Jul 30, 2018 15:37:58 GMT
tv shows are about drama and they get a lot of flack when they kill animals, especially cute ones or big ones. In fact, they get crud from people over killing or even notching live trees
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Post by pikachu on Jul 30, 2018 17:12:08 GMT
The people on Naked & Afraid kill animals all the time to survive. On this episode, they killed fish and crabs so it's not like they weren't allowed to kill anything. The sharks were certainly plentiful so I wouldn't think they would be endangered or protected.
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Post by pikachu on Jun 10, 2019 18:21:11 GMT
A new season of Naked and Afraid XL started last Sunday. They're in the Phillipines this time (Survivor territory!). Jeff and Laura started a challenge together 20 days before the other survivalists, then left where they were to meet up with the others for a 40 day challenge, so they'll be doing a 60 day challenge.
The participants are: Gabrielle Balassone, who survived 14 days in South Africa and 21 days in Mississippi. Christina McQueen, who survived 21 days in Quintana Roo. Duke Brady, who survived 21 days in Florida. Rylie Parlett, who survived 21 days in Honduras. Dustin "Duck" Campbell, who survived 21 days in Belize, tapped out of XL season 4. Russell Sage, who survived 21 days in Panama, tapped out of XL season 3. Max Djenohan, who completed 14 day and 21 day challenges in Panama. Nicole Terry, who survived 21 days in Nicaragua. Charlie Frattini, who survived 21 days in Colombia, tapped out of XL season 3. Manu Toigo, who survived 21 days in Panama. Angela Hammer, who survived 21 days in South Africa. Jeff Zausch, who survived 21 days in Madagascar, 40 days in Colombia James Lewis, who survived 21 days in Nicaragua. Laura Zerra, who survived 21 days in Panama and Peru, 40 Days in Colombia, and 14 days in Alaska.
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Post by pikachu on Jun 10, 2019 18:25:20 GMT
I was surprised at first when Jeff said he didn't want to merge with the other survivalists, he'd rather he and Laura do their thing together instead of joining the others, but after he explained why, I understood. In the last XL challenge he did, he was made to feel obligated to share the resources he acquired but there wasn't so much sharing from the others to him so I can see why he doesn't want to be put in that situation again. If the other contestants want to barter with him, perhaps borrow the boat from him or trade food they've gotten for food he has maybe he can do that but no more supporting those who don't work for themselves!
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Post by cornholio on Jun 27, 2019 19:05:39 GMT
Hi Pikachu! We're watching XL too.... Laura and Jeff are crushing it, they make it look too easy! I understand why they don't want to share-- they are doing so well with just the 2 of them and really they would have to give 80% of their food away to others when they are the only ones who need to last 60 days total. They are getting along so well it almost makes me wonder if a show-mance is blooming! It's nice to see Gabrielle again-- now she's showing as an attorney when she was a paralegal in the past. Happy for her! Still don't care for Rylie. She ran off poor Manu by being argumentative and nasty to her...and Christina was done with her shiz too. Was kind of glad to see her have to be alone for a little while. (I know that sounds mean!) But honestly, could not believe Manu came back to do the show again after what happened to her last time! Anyhoo-- enjoying the show, just wanted to let you know I'm watching with you! :-)
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Post by pikachu on Jul 1, 2019 12:43:54 GMT
I'm growing more and more disgusted with Jeff & Laura's behavior this season. I can understand them wanting to do their own thing up to a point, but when you're catching eels left and right and whooping it up about your abundance when you know there's a larger group of people sharing your walls who are struggling to make it, it's in really bad taste to gloat so much and not offer any assistance. I'm not saying that they had to feel obliged to share their eels with everybody for the rest of the season but they could have spared one eel for the other group, perhaps given them a few hooks (they have 20 with only 2 people to feed so they could have easily parted with 4 for the larger group) plus advice about where to set their hooks. Jeff and Laura seem to think it's all or nothing. Either they do everything for the whole group or they do nothing to help them. I think there's a place somewhere in the middle where they could help the other group get off the ground without holding their hand the whole way.
Then Jeff wouldn't even allow them space to put their measly 4 hooks so he and Laura could put out all 20 of theirs. Their selfish, snotty, elitist attitude has really changed the way I see them. I used to like Jeff and Laura and would have considered them an asset to any group they did a challenge with but with them acting against the other group in the challenge, I'm no longer rooting for them.
They say they they believe in being neighbors, not roommates. I think they're behaving more like rivals that neighbors. Frankly, I'm surprised that their scores didn't go down a bit because of their actions toward the larger group. If this was a true survival situation and not a limited time challenge, having two people make it while a larger group goes down because the two refused to help them wouldn't be in the best interests of survival for the group as a whole. Like it or not, I think just being human makes us part of the same group and you don't want anyone to go down if you can do something about it.
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Post by Anemone on Jul 3, 2019 1:20:48 GMT
I'm growing more and more disgusted with Jeff & Laura's behavior this season. I can understand them wanting to do their own thing up to a point, but when you're catching eels left and right and whooping it up about your abundance when you know there's a larger group of people sharing your walls who are struggling to make it, it's in really bad taste to gloat so much and not offer any assistance. I'm not saying that they had to feel obliged to share their eels with everybody for the rest of the season but they could have spared one eel for the other group, perhaps given them a few hooks (they have 20 with only 2 people to feed so they could have easily parted with 4 for the larger group) plus advice about where to set their hooks. Jeff and Laura seem to think it's all or nothing. Either they do everything for the whole group or they do nothing to help them. I think there's a place somewhere in the middle where they could help the other group get off the ground without holding their hand the whole way. Then Jeff wouldn't even allow them space to put their measly 4 hooks so he and Laura could put out all 20 of theirs. Their selfish, snotty, elitist attitude has really changed the way I see them. I used to like Jeff and Laura and would have considered them an asset to any group they did a challenge with but with them acting against the other group in the challenge, I'm no longer rooting for them. They say they they believe in being neighbors, not roommates. I think they're behaving more like rivals that neighbors. Frankly, I'm surprised that their scores didn't go down a bit because of their actions toward the larger group. If this was a true survival situation and not a limited time challenge, having two people make it while a larger group goes down because the two refused to help them wouldn't be in the best interests of survival for the group as a whole. Like it or not, I think just being human makes us part of the same group and you don't want anyone to go down if you can do something about it. Agreeing with all of the above. In addition, when J/L decided to start the hike to extraction, they were all about joining up, for safety in numbers. If they were all about doing it on their own , they should have set out in their own. Or been prepared to share a little, and at the very least not hinder the other group. I’m rooting for the original Redemption trio and Gabrielle and the 2 guys. I hope they all complete the 40 days.
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Post by kiz on Jul 3, 2019 13:09:28 GMT
I'm in 100% agreement pikachu and anemone. I'm beginning to get turned off of the show because Jeff and Laura's selfishness looks producer directed. It's too over the top. And if it's not being encouraged by the producers, they are pretty loathsome people. I also thought they should be dinged on their rating because they are unnecessarily alienating their neighbors.
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Post by pikachu on Jul 9, 2019 12:00:28 GMT
I was glad to see that Jeff's selfish attitude was finally factored into their survival rating and cost them a few points. I was also happy to see Laura share an eel with the other team. However, I was disappointed that she only shared half of it with them. They have all those people to feed and they had to split half a pretty small eel between them while Jeff got the other half to himself?? In addition, they had to give up some of their bananas for it when Jeff and Laura already had bananas. Still, at least she made some effort and proved she has a heart and a conscience. I wanted to smack Jeff when he kept going on to the camera about how stupid her decision was, how he wouldn't take a handout, and how hungry he was. He and Laura have been eating good this whole time. They probably have more food in one day than the rest of the teams have had this whole time out here. If he's hungry after all the eel and bananas, how does he think they feel? There were hints on the preview for next week that Jeff gets sick and when I heard that I was like "Karma, bitches! What goes around comes around, Jeff, and she's coming for you".
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Post by AZChristian on Jul 9, 2019 13:16:42 GMT
I think Laura's thought process was that she was willing to share HER half of the eel. Jeff should not have had any problem with that. She was giving away something that did not belong to him. And she knew that Jeff's issue was that he didn't want to GIVE the others anything, so she was hoping to keep him from getting angry when she made them "pay" for the eel.
Jeff is a real jerk. I hope that he was embarrassed to learn that thousands of people around the world felt like he deserved getting sick. This show is the OPPOSITE of "Survivor." They are SUPPOSED to work together to make sure that as many people as possible make it to the end. There is no prize money for being the only one (or even the first one) to get to the end.
Even though Charlie was a bit annoying to the others with his "everybody should work" attitude, he was the opposite of Jeff . . . Charlie wanted EVERYONE to make it. The way Jeff has been behaving, he'd probably kill and eat Laura to get himself to the end.
If he doesn't get taken out next week because he's sick, I hope a shark eats him on the way to the pick-up point. Karma would be that everyone else works on a raft while he's off on his own fishing for eels . . . he'd still have a belly full of food, but the others vote to NOT allow him to hold onto the raft. Even better - a bunch of moray eels grab him. LOL.
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Post by kiz on Jul 22, 2019 13:26:14 GMT
Jeff's humble pie was too little too late. He and Laura made the 60 days, but they were also allowed a boat and at least 20 hooks. Jeff was the biggest turnoff with his obnoxious chest beating cheers in front of the other group with is eels and his overall insufferable personality. He was all about being selfish when it was to his advantage but using the other team when he needed them.
I would have hoped he learned something, but it appears he goes back to his self admiration at next week's reunion show.
Kudos to James for being the oldest at 51 to complete the xl challenge.
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Post by Anemone on Jul 30, 2019 23:36:26 GMT
Okay, well, Jeff’s still a jerk. He did himself no favors with his rant at Charlie, then “oh I didn’t know...” apology. I’m glad he saw from others’ perspectives how his decisions, especially the gloating, looked. I didnt recognize some of the women with haircuts and makeup.
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Post by Anemone on Jul 30, 2019 23:44:20 GMT
I hope Duck and Russell get another chance. I don’t think Charlie’s health would allow him to. I know Duck tapped twice, but the last time was ..... noble (?)...it was so spur of the moment. I wonder if he’d be willing to try again - his edit didn’t show him being miserable and wanting to leave. Russell got taken out medically. I know Russ said he felt his redemption was complete, but I’d like to see be able to complete the challenge.
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Post by kiz on Jul 31, 2019 0:48:09 GMT
According to Jeff, he will be doing a 21 day N&A challenge with his girlfriend and also has another wilderness survival type show that's "bigger and badder". Count me out! I agree with the above. His apology was shallow and too late. He was carried by the group he so callously maligned and whooped it up when eating when others were starving. He was on board with "welfare" when it was Jeff at the trough. And his crowing about 60 days, in my opinion, only Laura made it. He spent at least one night out, and I'm not buying that was the extent of his extra care. It was reported that he had bacterial meningitis resulting from a cut on his foot and a high temp of 105.
Nicole was the woman we seldom saw, and she was missing from the reunion. I looked online, and she said couldn't get off work for the show. I hope she was only on the show for the experience as her air time was less than minimal.
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