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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 25, 2018 17:58:45 GMT
The lightning and thunder and creepy music! Muahaha! π§ββοΈβ‘οΈπ§ββοΈ
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Post by momrek06 on Jul 25, 2018 20:20:43 GMT
The lightning and thunder and creepy music! Muahaha! π§ββοΈβ‘οΈπ§ββοΈ Ohhhhh such drama between the TWO BIGGEST HYPOCRITES!!!! And stUffy gets the privilege now of wearing one of DOLLAR BILL's prized SWORD NECKLACES ........... ohhhh gag me now ..........
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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 25, 2018 22:37:34 GMT
Itβs like his sword is biting her neck to turn her immortal like him. π
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 26, 2018 4:08:39 GMT
yes Steffy, kick those 2 phony hypocrites to the curb for good! Get rid of them from your life, you don't need those phonies in your life. I love what she said about how she can't be with a man who holds her to a standard that he himself can't, that explains Liam perfectly, that ping pong boy acts so self-righteous and judgemental and claim that he has "morals" but actually he's nothing but a hypocrite, a lying and cheating hypocrite who constantly plays on women's feelings, just how many women has he fooled around with and cheated on and hurt over the years? He's like a younger version of Ridge. The wishy washy Liam will forever cheat, he will never change, he will continue to hurt women and betray women, it's only a matter of time before he cheats on Hope and betrays her too, like he has done time and time again before. I will predict now that Liam is going to go back to Hope but sooner or later he will cheat on her again either with Steffy or with another woman, because that's what always happens with Liam, he's a serial cheater who doesn't know how to stop. Mark my words people, ping pong boy will break that Hopeless heart again, not that I would care, but it's so predictable with Liam.
I don't like the idea of Steffy making a deal with Bill though, but I have a feeling that this is all part of Steffy's plan to get rid off wishy wishy Liam and phony Hopeless and Hopeless' even bigger fraudulent mother out of the business. I'd love to see Steffy kicking the biggest phony mother & daughter duo out of the company, go Steffy!
Finally the show's getting interesting again.
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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 26, 2018 18:10:08 GMT
I like Steffy SO much more as a villain. π§ββοΈ
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Post by momrek06 on Jul 26, 2018 18:51:26 GMT
I like Steffy SO much more as a villain. π§ββοΈ No no no Gutmutter .... you mean stUffy as a VILLAINESS because DOLLAR BILL is the VILLAIN!!!!
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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 26, 2018 19:04:16 GMT
That dilutes her too much! Sounds like a girly villain. π
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Post by momrek06 on Jul 26, 2018 19:22:34 GMT
That dilutes her too much! Sounds like a girly villain. π OMG.......you are right.......stUffy actually does not deserve that title....... TEAM VILLAIN........stUffy and Dollar Bill wearing their sword necklaces looking ridiculous as ever.
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 26, 2018 20:18:47 GMT
funny that people call Steffy and Bill the 'villains' of B&B when many of the other characters are actually also villains disguised as "angels", at least both Steffy and Bill are transparent, unlike the many other self-righteous hypocrites on this show.
I'm glad the writing on B&B has finally gotten interesting again just when I was on the verge of giving up on it.
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Post by betty80 on Jul 26, 2018 20:31:15 GMT
I'm glad the writing on B&B has finally gotten interesting again just when I was on the verge of giving up on it. Me too.
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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 27, 2018 9:59:14 GMT
Just a thought... if Steffy takes over Forrester she hurts Eric. That could bring Quinn back into play. Sheβs been harnessing her crazy for far too long. β‘οΈ
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 27, 2018 11:13:35 GMT
everyone detests Bill on this show, including Eric, I think no one hates Bill more than Eric does (other than Ridge of course), I think if Steffy were to take over the company I think Eric would probably be relieved...he probably wouldn't be too thrilled, but at the same time he'd probably at least be relieved that sleazy Bill no longer has any involvement in Forrester Creations anymore. And Steffy is already the CEO anyway, Eric loves his granddaughter, so if she also takes over the majority shares of the company I don't think Eric would be too mad about it...I can't imagine him being any more mad about Steffy taking over the company than Bill having his sleazy hands on it. Steffy is Eric's granddaughter whom he loves, with Steffy controlling the company at least it stays in the Forrester family.
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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 27, 2018 13:35:33 GMT
Tell all that to Quinn. π
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 27, 2018 13:59:21 GMT
well Quinn detests Bill almost just as much as Eric if not more so, I think if she had to choose between her step-granddaughter whom she seems to like and the sleazy Bill, I think there's no doubt she'd rather choose Steffy.
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Post by fang2170 on Jul 27, 2018 18:16:20 GMT
Liam is such an entitled, selfish jerk. I wanted to reach through the TV today and slap him! I'm glad Bill walked in and stated bluntly that Liam's mind was NOT on his daughter while he was getting it on with Hope. And his mind...among "other things", wasn't on Steffy either....far from it! Liam is just pissed he can no longer "have his cake and eat it too". A line has no been drawn and he will not be stepping back over it anytime soon.
Now, that said...I wish Steffy had not ran back to Bill so quickly. This was an impulsive move that she will no doubt regret at some point down the road. I already see tension between Ridge and Brooke, quickly being divided over their love for their daughters, and what is right for them. So what if Ridge and Brooke break up? Brooke and Bill have quite a history too. At one time, I would've said Brooke was the love of Bill's life! I could easily see Brooke running back to Bill, even if he's engaged or married to Steffy. Then what? Will Bill be put in the same spot that Liam is now, torn between the two women who have been the great loves of his life? This could get RATHER complicated, and interesting.
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Post by betty80 on Jul 27, 2018 19:28:16 GMT
Liam isn't worth it. Both Hope and Steffy could do better.
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 28, 2018 4:29:15 GMT
Liam is such an entitled, selfish jerk. I wanted to reach through the TV today and slap him! I'm glad Bill walked in and stated bluntly that Liam's mind was NOT on his daughter while he was getting it on with Hope. And his mind...among "other things", wasn't on Steffy either....far from it! Liam is just pissed he can no longer "have his cake and eat it too". A line has no been drawn and he will not be stepping back over it anytime soon. Now, that said...I wish Steffy had not ran back to Bill so quickly. This was an impulsive move that she will no doubt regret at some point down the road. I already see tension between Ridge and Brooke, quickly being divided over their love for their daughters, and what is right for them. So what if Ridge and Brooke break up? Brooke and Bill have quite a history too. At one time, I would've said Brooke was the love of Bill's life! I could easily see Brooke running back to Bill, even if he's engaged or married to Steffy. Then what? Will Bill be put in the same spot that Liam is now, torn between the two women who have been the great loves of his life? This could get RATHER complicated, and interesting. I agree Liam is a prick, a very selfish and indecisive prick, he claims to have "morals" and acts so self-righteous but he's actually just a selfish hypocrite and could never make up his damn mind, constantly jumping back and fourth between Steffy and phony Hopeless and stringing them along. And now finally Steffy is putting her foot down and has had enough of ping pong boy's constant indecisive ways. Steffy is better off without ping pong boy in her life. I also think going to Bill was very impulsive, the only reason Steffy turned to him was because of her revenge plan and more money to secure some stability for her daughter, nothing more. She still detests Bill and couldn't even bring herself to say "I love you" to Bill in his office, she didn't even try to lie about it, their arrangement is nothing more than just a business deal between them, at least it is for Steffy right now. Steffy might regret that decision in the future she might not we'll just have to wait and see, but I wish she didn't run to Bill so impulsively, I wish she'd just kick ping pong boy out of her life but stay away from $Bill too and just concentrate on raising Kelly as a single mother. Why must the writers insist on every woman on B&B needing a man in their lives to be happy or safe? It's so annoying, a woman can be strong and happy and single too, stupid sexist writers! But as I said before, it's all part of Steffy's revenge plan and wanting stability for her daughter...although Bill is still just as obsessively in love with her as ever. But I disagree with you about Brooke being "the love of Bill's love", I think that's Steffy, because Bill has loved Steffy much longer and he has a much longer history with her than with Brooke, and someone reminded me recently that Bill once called Brooke a "jealous tramp". So I don't think Brooke is Bill's "soulmate" or "love of his life", not even close. I believe Steffy is most likely the love of Bill's life, but he's probably not hers, certainly not now.
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Post by Gutmutter on Jul 28, 2018 8:29:15 GMT
Give it time... she has loved Bill before and when he starts treating her the way she thinks she deserves, I doubt sheβll resist long.
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 28, 2018 9:59:32 GMT
Well Steffy did love Bill long before both Liam and Wyatt came into the picture, they have a very long and intense relationship and history together...it's obvious now that Steffy detests Bill, but it's possible she might change her mind about him in the future. However considering how the writers have turned this boring and repetitive Steffy-Liam-Hope love triangle into the new version of Brooke-Ridge-Taylor triangle in recent years, I have doubts that this would be the last we've seen of this dreadful love triangle. Even though Steffy is with Bill now and Liam might go back to phony Hopeless after this, and as much as I want the writers to put an end to the love triangle for good, that's probably not going to happen anytime soon. I have a bad feeling that something will happen in the future which would lead to Steffy going back to wishy washy Liam again, because that's what always happens with this stupid love triangle, they keep going back and fourth with each other, just like it always happened with the Brooke-Ridge-Taylor triangle for decades.
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Post by betty80 on Jul 29, 2018 18:32:33 GMT
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Post by fang2170 on Jul 29, 2018 23:35:55 GMT
Ugh, it looks like much more of the same! Glad I'll be out of town a bit this week and probably won't get to watch the show!
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Post by fang2170 on Jul 29, 2018 23:48:30 GMT
But I disagree with you about Brooke being "the love of Bill's love", I think that's Steffy, because Bill has loved Steffy much longer and he has a much longer history with her than with Brooke, and someone reminded me recently that Bill once called Brooke a "jealous tramp". So I don't think Brooke is Bill's "soulmate" or "love of his life", not even close. I believe Steffy is most likely the love of Bill's life, but he's probably not hers, certainly not now. Brooke may not be the love of Bill's life, but he sure did pursue her doggedly. Perhaps a better term would be "conquest". Brooke was a conquest, and Bill liked the chase. He chased Brooke, got Brooke but eventually managed to lose her. I don't know that she would ever come back around to stir up trouble with Bill and Steffy (or any other woman he may happen to be with in the future). She seemed to be thoroughly disgusted with Bill by the time she left him. However, she has been plenty pissed off at Ridge too and still found her way back to him. I'd hoped Brook's character had matured and she was over the questionable behaviors of her past. She is getting too involved in her daughter's life, urging Hope to go after Liam. If Hope were my daughter, and knowing what a flake Liam is, I'm not so sure I'd be encouraging that relationship.
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Post by lindal100 on Jul 30, 2018 3:55:41 GMT
But I disagree with you about Brooke being "the love of Bill's love", I think that's Steffy, because Bill has loved Steffy much longer and he has a much longer history with her than with Brooke, and someone reminded me recently that Bill once called Brooke a "jealous tramp". So I don't think Brooke is Bill's "soulmate" or "love of his life", not even close. I believe Steffy is most likely the love of Bill's life, but he's probably not hers, certainly not now. Brooke may not be the love of Bill's life, but he sure did pursue her doggedly. Perhaps a better term would be "conquest". Brooke was a conquest, and Bill liked the chase. He chased Brooke, got Brooke but eventually managed to lose her. I don't know that she would ever come back around to stir up trouble with Bill and Steffy (or any other woman he may happen to be with in the future). She seemed to be thoroughly disgusted with Bill by the time she left him. However, she has been plenty pissed off at Ridge too and still found her way back to him. I'd hoped Brook's character had matured and she was over the questionable behaviors of her past. She is getting too involved in her daughter's life, urging Hope to go after Liam. If Hope were my daughter, and knowing what a flake Liam is, I'm not so sure I'd be encouraging that relationship. well that's basically the kind of person $Bill is like, whenever he sees something or someone he wants he pursues it obsessively, sometimes too obsessively, look how desperate he was wanting to build his precious skyscraper, he completely ruined Sally's life and the people involved just so he could build it, it took Liam almost dying for $Bill to finally let go. And now look how determined and obsessively he's trying to pursue Steffy now, $Bill is crazy obsessed with Steffy to the point that he is so determined to win her heart he doesn't care whose life he destroys in the process, he'd even risk destroying his relationship with his own son for good in order to win Steffy. That's just the kind of person $Bill is, when he wants something he desperately fights to get it, but once he got it, he eventually loses interest and tosses it away like a trophy, much like what happened with Brooke. Sure he was interested in her before and pursued her doggedly, but after a while he lost interest in her, then he moved on to Steffy and now his main obsession is Steffy. Except Bill has a much longer history with Steffy and their relationship was much more intense, so I don't know if this whole arrangement they have would last...I don't think it will, I think Steffy would probably eventually go back to wishy washy Liam at some point in the future. $Bill is diabolical, I'm not sure someone like him is even capable of TRULY loving anyone, he doesn't even love his own sons, he manipulates them, disrespects them and treats them like nothing more than chess pieces in his games of manipulation, he only has a need for his sons when he wants something from them, or when they could help him achieve his goals. But when they disobey him he cruelly discards them, look how cruelly he treats Liam, and Wyatt when they both crossed him. So I don't believe $Bill has ever TRULY loved any woman he's been involved with, not Brooke, not Steffy, not Katie, not Quinn, not anyone, they were just obsessions, infatuations he had, but once he lost interest in them he discards them. The only 2 things in the world he truly loves are money and power, and the only person in the world he truly loves is himself, that's all, no one else. Even if he did or does truly love a woman, then it's probably Steffy because of their very long and intense relationship and history together.
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Post by betty80 on Aug 1, 2018 20:01:37 GMT
I'm glad Steffy did not marry Bill.
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Post by ayemada on Aug 2, 2018 19:27:01 GMT
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Post by Gutmutter on Aug 3, 2018 17:55:50 GMT
...just too weird! π―
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Post by lindal100 on Aug 3, 2018 18:31:11 GMT
I'm glad Steffy did not marry Bill. me too, I'm glad Steffy realises that she doesn't need a man in her life in order to be happy and is now mainly prioritising herself and her daughter, that's what she should be focusing on right now, I'm happy she has decided to take a break from dating & men and focusing on being a mum and career woman. I love this strong and independent Steffy, it's like she has a new found confidence in herself and a strong desire to protect her daughter, being a mum has really made a positive impact on her And I'm glad Steffy didn't just rip that Hopeless apart in her office unlike she did in the dressing room, Steffy acted classy and poised towards her despite Hopeless stealing her fiance, Steffy's had time to cool down and I love how Steffy has handled herself in the last few episodes, finally she's had enough of dating and men (at least for now) and is moving on with her life. Btw I knew Steffy was co-CEO of the company...I remember a while ago there was a little dispute in the old FORT forum about her role in Forrester Creations, I was sure she was only co-CEO but someone argued that she was the sole CEO of the company (I forgot who), but I'm glad I was right and they confirmed it in the previous episode that she's co-CEO, and that her absence lately was because she was on maternity leave. I'm happy they had clarified that for us, because some people had been wondering why Steffy had not been working at the company for a while. And now she's officially back from maternity leave and is as focused and confident as I've ever seen her, it's good to see her so positive, I love this new strong & independent mummy Steffy!
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Post by annifran on Aug 4, 2018 15:29:50 GMT
Something seems so off with Steffy. She looks and is acting rote like a Zombie. Even her speech is measured. I wonder if she's experiencing a breakdown of some sort.
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Post by momrek06 on Aug 4, 2018 15:39:13 GMT
Something seems so off with Steffy. She looks and is acting rote like a Zombie. Even her speech is measured. I wonder if she's experiencing a breakdown of some sort. TOTALLY AGREE........she has become a ROBOT. I .... WILL ...TAKE .... CARE .... OF .... ME .... AND .... KELLY. Said in my best robot voice ....... And proposing to Hope for Liam .......... what the CRAP is that. And handing her ring over to Hope ......... 'please stUffy what is that you are on, CRACK'!!!! stUffy is so full of herself. Also as far as a role model for her daughter ...... hmmm, 'hey stUffy are you going to tell Kelly you slept with HER GRANDFATHER' ......
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Post by Gutmutter on Aug 4, 2018 15:57:40 GMT
...and her Uncle Wyatt.π―
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