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Post by Bearcata on Dec 6, 2023 23:18:44 GMT
Season 39 Episode 8 - "Struggling to Hold It Together" - December 6, 2023 Well expecting to see Big T and Melissa in the crosshairs tonight. Expecting someone to make a horrid nomination speech. Why stop now? Expecting to see Kaycee as a mercenary tonight, might be Tori but I am expecting Kaycee. The appearances for the mercenaries so far have been the latest crowned, Jordan and Kaz. Then it was Devin and should be Tori the Season 38 winners. If that is the pattern than after that it should be CT and Kaycee the Season 37 winners. But that would be Darrell, Cara Maria, and Laurel as wild cards. Before the daily challenge they show Corey apologizing to Melissa and he is really soft spoken and sounds wholeheartedly sorry and Melissa is also soft spoken accepting his apology and I am thinking WHAT! Confessional Corey - hope my alliance trusts me.
Confessional Melissa - is willing to let it go.
Asaf - what is wrong with this guy he is so emotional and needs to go after Melissa and Kyland and send them home.
Emanuel - again very emotional and wants to send Kyland, Melissa and Big T home. Horacio too if he can. So emotional and not strategic.
What has Emanuel done in the game? Technically he has won 7 dailies. Break that down to 6 of those wins were in a team format. He did win a daily with Kaycee as his partner. He won an elimination against Logan and lost one to Devin. Has Emanuel been a leader? Responsible for a win? Not really, but he certainly acts as if he is a big mover and shaker in the house. I like Michele & Jay telling everyone Big T is not a threat in the game as she can't run. But I don't think Asaf and Emanuel are listening.
Big T is a big trouble maker in the house? Doing What? Please Spill some tea.
The daily challenge was big and bold but both Jay and Kyland were kinda pathetic leaders, although Jay was less so than Kyland. Kyland for someone so smart is also so dumb. There are 14 players in the US Alliance out of the 18 players left. What happens when James, Melissa, Big T, Zara are gone? Both Berna and Colleens names are starting to be said. I wonder how they will feel when they are called down into the Arena? I like how Moriah brings up why are we not sending strong players into the Arena to save the prize pot?
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 7, 2023 5:00:49 GMT
....continued
Ahhhh.....I was right it is Kaycee and it is Big T in the ring and Pole Wrestle.
Big T put up a great fight and surprised some folks.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 7, 2023 5:05:32 GMT
....more
Corey is so icky in his confessionals especially when I find out he has NOT apologized to Big T.
Anyone notice that the men have a lot of confessionals this episode with Slime Corey, Asaf, Emanuel with a little bit of Jay and Kyland thrown in.
I am sorry but these folks are NOT compelling personalities, especially Slime Boy. I am sure they are all Proud that they got rid of that BIG THREAT also known as Big T.
Michele at least can narrate the story and move it along.
Colleen is showing up in scenes with a potential Berna+Emanuel+Colleen triangle.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 7, 2023 7:59:13 GMT
Whose left in the UK Alliance: Asaf Goren Corey Lay Ed Eason Emanuel Neagu Horacio Gutiérrez James Lock - UK Justin "Jay" Starrett Kyland Young Berna Canbeldek Colleen Schneider Melissa Reeves - UKMichele Fitzgerald Moriah Jadea Nurys Mateo Olivia Kaiser Ravyn Rochelle Zara Zoffany - UK
Other Alliances:
Fantastic Four: Asaf+Michele+Jay+Nurys
Season 38 Girls: Colleen+Michele+Moriah+Nurys+Olivia+Ravyn
Cracks in Alliances: (Mainly in the US Alliance)
Asaf vs Kyland
Asaf vs Corey
Emanuel vs Horacio vs Big T vs Melissa vs Kyland
Ravyn vs the Season 38 Girls
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 7, 2023 16:22:56 GMT
Corey Lay is the guest on this week's The Official MTV Challenge Podcast.
I feel he is so two faced in regards to how he treats Big T online. Corey claims they are "all good" on the podcast, yet he has trashes Big T on line (Instagram).
Corey claims he needs to me loyal to his alliance. Does he not notice how Michele does it. She has a deep, deep, deep core, and the bigger overall alliance, and the med level Season 38 Girls.
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Post by queens on Dec 7, 2023 18:18:01 GMT
Melissa should apologize to Rayvn. That was ridiculous
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 7, 2023 19:39:17 GMT
Melissa should apologize to Rayvn. That was ridiculous I don't know why Melissa was so bent on finding out who said her name. Melissa must know by now there is a huge US Alliance and she should know who more or less is on that alliance, one or two voices were never going to save Melissa.
The drama while fun was never going to go anywhere except result in some kind of explosion which it did.
The one good thing about getting out Big T is that does take the pressure off Melissa that potentially some other female will be targeted for the next female elimination.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 7, 2023 19:40:42 GMT
Wonder who will show up for next week's boys elimination? CT, Brad, Darrell?
I can see the producers saving CT and Cara Maria for last though.
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Post by sunnydayz on Dec 7, 2023 22:56:19 GMT
I do sometimes wonder if TPTB choose a certain elimination challenge and champion depending on who has been nominated.
Michelle does tell a pretty good story and narrative that can be followed, but dang I wish she didn’t always raise her voice higher at the end of every sentence she speaks. That rising inflection like every sentence is a question - it drives me crazy 😝
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 8, 2023 1:54:36 GMT
I do sometimes wonder if TPTB choose a certain elimination challenge and champion depending on who has been nominated. Michelle does tell a pretty good story and narrative that can be followed, but dang I wish she didn’t always raise her voice higher at the end of every sentence she speaks. That rising inflection like every sentence is a question - it drives me crazy 😝 I don't think they are choosing the champion depending on who got nominated to go into the Arena. I DO think the producers have a Champion/Mercenary lineup and DO have a particular elimination event in mind for each Champion/Mercenary.
I do think since CT is the biggest draw he will appear last for the men. For the ladies I think it will be Cara Maria appearing last especially as CT and Cara Maria are friends. I will not be surprised if there is a toss up in order between Laurel and Cara Maria.
I do think the production staff will change the order of Champion/Mercenary appearance if Jay gets tossed into the Arena. Who wouldn't if it meant a match up between Jay and CT.
There will be at least 6 more weeks of Chaos as we have yet to see CT, Brad, Darrell, Tori, Laurel or Cara Maria.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 13, 2023 13:26:38 GMT
Season 39 Episode 9 - "A Banana Split"- December 13, 2023 Note: In some podcasts when players were asked "aren't you concerned about losing prize money" because they were throwing in weaker players into the arena especially Melissa and Big T the reply was "we didn't care about the money" we wanted those two either gone or broken up.
The description of the episode does indicate that Moriah will be a central part, but are there other people in the house with outside girlfriends/boyfriends that are hooking up in the house that we don't know about?
Does this mean it will be a girls day and Tori will show up and make comments to Moriah or will it be a double elimination boys and girls?
I know Brad Fiorenza is one of the mercenaries but they have not shown him in any trailers.
Will there be a second trailer for the second part of the season.
Yes this is a 22 episode season.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2023 1:43:50 GMT
Shocker it is a female elimination. It's Melissa into the Arena. Guess that means it is Tori as the merc this episode.
Good thing Nurys and Zara are safe else they would be the targets.
Wow, people are protecting Berna.
Colleen is shocked she maybe the house vote.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2023 1:51:34 GMT
OMG Colleen and Emmanuel did the dirty and he has a girlfriend.
He made sure nothing was on camera.
What a snake.
But Colleen knew he had a girlfriend.
Emmanuel don't do it on a reality TV show because sooner or later everyone will know.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2023 2:26:52 GMT
The house votes are getting so B O R I N G. Berna, Colleen, realize that even though they are loyal to the US Alliance that Michele, Nurys, and Olivia and so protected but that they (B & C) are not. Colleen is throwing out Moriah's name to Jay and Corey. Jay and others wonder why is Moriah not being punished for hanging out with the UK guys.
Then the voting is done for the house vote and it is all Colleen, with only one for Berna, and one for Moriah.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2023 2:49:10 GMT
Tori is the merc.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2023 2:50:19 GMT
Really, Tori is calling out Moriah, saying Bananas is heartbroken.
Moriah and Bananas were not even official boyfriend and girlfriend.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2023 2:52:55 GMT
It's Melissa vs Tori and it is a puzzle, diving for pieces underwater everything Melissa hates. I do like Tori's strategy on how to do the puzzle. Nice to see that you can collect multiple puzzle pieces. Was there any doubt. There they go another $10,000 gone from the final prize pot. It's now $366,000.
James is sad about Melissa going as he needs numbers for the UK Alliance. Does James realize that the UK Alliance only has two members left and they are James and Zara?
Where are all these numbers he thinks are there???? Oh, I do think that he and Zara are a bit lame with only the fittest should compete in the final. Fit brains are just as important. Ask Emanuel and Berna as they couldn't figure out the cube puzzle in the Daily Challenge.
So whose is left.
1. Asaf Goren 2. Corey Lay 3. Ed Eason 4. Emanuel Neagu 5. Horacio Gutiérrez 6. James Lock - UK 7. Justin "Jay" Starrett 8. Kyland Young Next targets are: Corey, James, Kyland 1. Berna Canbeldek 2. Colleen Schneider 3. Michele Fitzgerald 4. Moriah Jadea 5. Nurys Mateo 6. Olivia Kaiser 7. Ravyn Rochelle 8. Zara Zoffany - UK
Next targets are: Berna, Colleen, Moriah, Ravyn, Zara
Looks as if it will be a boys day next week and either Darrell or Brad will be the mercenary.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2023 4:04:33 GMT
On the Caffeine Confessionals Podcast they mentioned Tori's messy hookup history and how hypocritical it was of her to say anything to Moriah. Also Bananas hooked up with two of his castmates on House of Villains and that was filmed before this season of the Challenge. Also mentioned that Bananas was supposed to be a merc but didn't appear and it was supposed to be this episode.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2023 13:53:47 GMT
Did anyone notice it was only Emanuel who decided to bring back any other teams sticks back? It might have been more effective if he told his partner Berna to do it also and maybe discussed the strategy with some other teams on his alliance.
For as much as folks discuss other player options to put into elimination the US Alliance holds sway. Will the other players band together. The problem with the international players is that they are targets even when they have shown how loyal they are to the US Alliance.
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Post by sunnydayz on Dec 14, 2023 17:24:46 GMT
I had to lol at Kyland talking about Melissa...."I do feel like our games are a bit intertwined, so I don't want to see her go home tonight." (A bit??!)
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2023 22:18:41 GMT
I missed the beginning of the episode yesterday and finally had a chance to watch. OMGosh, Emanuel, you have a girlfriend yet you are actively pursuing every female in the house. Icky. All the girls are comparing notes.
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Post by holly on Dec 14, 2023 22:37:30 GMT
Emanuel is a hound! I don’t even know what these girls see…what do they find so irresistible? Maybe he’s just a smooth talker? Maybe it’s pheromones.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2023 23:59:03 GMT
Emanuel is a hound! I don’t even know what these girls see…what do they find so irresistible? Maybe he’s just a smooth talker? Maybe it’s pheromones. I think it might be he is a good dance partner and you forgive a lot to have a good dance partner.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 16, 2023 19:51:50 GMT
Lots and lots of info from Melissa and Big T - this week's guests on The MTIV Official Challenge podcast. Moriah - was discussed before the interview and during the interview. 1. Before the interview started the hosts mentioned that Corey Lay who was a previous guest and had said he regretted his behavior toward Big T and Melissa right has been engaging in some nasty commentary toward both ladies on Twitter and Instagram. 2. Asaf & Emanuel have also engaged in some nasty comments to both ladies. Asaf+Emanuel+Corey are on my permanent "you are a rat" list. During the interview...M+BigT said: 1. After production informed everyone if they were on the show the entire US Alliance was on a group email talking and making plans. M+BT said they were not notified they were on the show until the last minute so they really didn't have time to organize an alliance pre-show. 2. M+BT were very isolated in the house. The US Alliance was very into not hanging out or talking with anyone else and during dinner there were two big tables and everyone crowded to sit at one table and M&BT sat by themselves, no one wanted to join them. 3. Melissa said that M&BT never talked plans with Corey even though he claimed to have spied on them. 4. Corey immediately apologized to Melissa after his BIG confession. 5. Big T was deeply hurt by Corey's Big confession as they were never going to vote for him. 5. Corey took 3 days to apologize to Big T and Melissa pushed him to do it ... and even then it was just "sorry" and he said he "felt better", Big T was just trying to be the bigger person. 6. James told Melissa not to sabotage Asaf and the two girls during the challenge as James said he and Zara had an agreement with Asaf NOT to nominate Melissa. 7. Asaf talked to Melissa all the time about missing his son and how he would never send her into elimination.
8. The reason Melissa kicked Nurys in the mud pit (previous episode) was that Nurys deliberately held her head underwater and in the mud to the point she had mud in her teeth. Melissa also heard the girls saying it when they were fighting in the pit.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 16, 2023 20:03:01 GMT
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 18, 2023 15:44:45 GMT
More FYI: ew.com/the-challenge-battle-for-a-new-champion-big-t-talks-elimination-8411737This is what I really like about the Challenge when you have a player come in and grow. Big T was cast for personality, let's face it she is a social butterfly, who did she had some political strategy with directing some votes in Spies Lies. No one took her as a physical threat. She at least is not an emotional messy player like many we have seen. I honestly don't know if she will become a physical beast but if she improves her cardio and puzzle skill I can see her beating other folks and potentially doing well in a final based on being an all around player. I look forward to seeing her story arc through the years. This is where casting shines and to be honest Big T may never win a Challenge but I will be rooting for her. This what players like Asaf, Emauel, and Corey Lay don't understand about being someone viewers care about or even want to see, they think trashing Big T in the game and on X and Instagram is how they get called back. I personally hope they never call back Asaf or Emanuel as they bring nothing to the show. Corey is a potential villain but even with that he fails a lot.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 18, 2023 15:59:24 GMT
More thoughts...
Females left 1. Berna Canbeldek 2. Colleen Schneider 3. Michele Fitzgerald 4. Moriah Jadea 5. Nurys Mateo 6. Olivia Kaiser 7. Ravyn Rochelle 8. Zara Zoffany - UK
US Alliance Females
1. Berna Canbeldek 2. Colleen Schneider 3. Michele Fitzgerald 4. Moriah Jadea 5. Nurys Mateo 6. Olivia Kaiser 7. Ravyn Rochelle
Break down of Alliances:
Secret Fantastic Four Females Michele Fitzgerald Nurys Mateo
Core US Alliance FemalesMichele Fitzgerald Nurys Mateo Olivia Kaiser
Core US Alliance Females they doesn't trust
Moriah Jadea Ravyn Rochelle
US Alliance Female Numbers:
Berna Canbeldek Colleen Schneider
Next Target:
Zara Zoffany - UK
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 18, 2023 16:09:47 GMT
Males left1. Asaf Goren 2. Corey Lay 3. Ed Eason 4. Emanuel Neagu 5. Horacio Gutiérrez 6. James Lock - UK 7. Justin "Jay" Starrett 8. Kyland Young US Alliance Males1. Asaf Goren 2. Corey Lay 3. Ed Eason 4. Emanuel Neagu 5. Horacio Gutiérrez 6. Justin "Jay" Starrett 7. Kyland Young
Break down of Alliances:
UK Alliance Males James Lock
Secret Fantastic Four Males Asaf Goren Justin "Jay" Starrett
Core US Alliance Males they doesn't trust Corey Lay Kyland Young
Next Target: James Lock Kyland Young Corey Lay
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 19, 2023 17:02:23 GMT
For this week it will be interesting who gets nominated and who gets the house vote, much depends on how teams are structured for the daily challenge and who wins that daily challenge.
Corey at this point feels he is safe however he is a target. His name has been said before and really how many times has James name been said? At this point in the game it would be either Corey or Kyland or both. James and Horacio are secondary targets and Horacio is in more danger as the US Alliance are fanatic about perceived "traitors". The most protected players are this point are Michele, Nurys, and Jay, all others are up for selection.
I really want to see the outliers form an alliance and target some of the "safe" players. I doubt that will happen as so many of these folks think they are peoples number one.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 20, 2023 16:48:53 GMT
10. Daily Challenge Bullshit - If Asaf had not been paired with Ravyn and Zara, James and Melissa would have won heat 1 (they came in second) and it would have been a totally different challenge.
9. Melissa Voted in Yet Again - Two female eliminations in a row was a bit confusing.
8. Kyland vs. Asaf - some drama thank you
7. Melissa vs. Asaf - dude you got caught lying not a good look in the house
6. Emanuel is a liar - "You are a good competitor, but you’re also trying to fuck anything that moves, and you’re cheating on your girlfriend."
5. Moriah’s Mess - it was not a good look for Olivia to basically report what Moriah said to her. You can have friendships in the house with other people and still be loyal to your alliance it is not a good look when one of your alliance members comes across as a spy reporting all your moves and making more than what is.
4. Artificial Sweetener Olivia - I too luv'ed Olivia last season, what happened?
3. Voting Deliberation & Tori’s Entrance - After TJ's hype totally disappointment seeing Tori come in. That is not how I would describe her.
2. Glass House Owner Throws Stones - totally agree Tori is the last one to tell someone to not have a showmance - Tori's showmance with Jordan totally messed with her partner Danny's game. If Tori had focused on the game instead of Jordan I do believe they would have won the World Championships.
1. Melissa vs. Tori (Has The Mercenary Twist Helped?) - what he said => "So now we’ve lost entertaining cast members, money to the winner’s pot, and have a cast full of people lacking accomplishments. "
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