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Post by holly on Mar 11, 2024 15:04:46 GMT
I saw that the Eras cast dropped, & I feel like some of those are in the wrong eras. I wasn't the only one that felt like this. Hopefully they don't split them into teams according to their era, or else some really good players are going to get screwed over. Saw more than enough of that this season, don't care to see it again - ever. {Spoiler} I know as of Saturday, there was an empty spot on the men's team with a "?" because there was a scheduling conflict for Jordan. Such a bummer!
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Post by Bearcata on Mar 11, 2024 17:33:59 GMT
I saw that the Eras cast dropped, & I feel like some of those are in the wrong eras. I wasn't the only one that felt like this. Hopefully they don't split them into teams according to their era, or else some really good players are going to get screwed over. Saw more than enough of that this season, don't care to see it again - ever. {Spoiler} I know as of Saturday, there was an empty spot on the men's team with a "?" because there was a scheduling conflict for Jordan. Such a bummer! Jordan got dropped. Ryan Kehoe or Jay Mitchel with replace.
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Post by holly on Mar 14, 2024 12:48:27 GMT
I saw that the Eras cast dropped, & I feel like some of those are in the wrong eras. I wasn't the only one that felt like this. Hopefully they don't split them into teams according to their era, or else some really good players are going to get screwed over. Saw more than enough of that this season, don't care to see it again - ever. {Spoiler} I know as of Saturday, there was an empty spot on the men's team with a "?" because there was a scheduling conflict for Jordan. Such a bummer! Jordan got dropped. Ryan Kehoe or Jay Mitchel with replace.
I know Jordan dropped. I didn't know if everyone else knew or wanted to know that. That's why I put it in a spoiler. But since it's now out there, it was because it conflicted with his racecar driving pursuit that he seems to be very serious about right now. So tell me what you think of the Eras cast. There are a few people I wish could have been on, but I'm sure there were a few fan faves that couldn't because of life or other commitments (like Jenna just had baby #3, I would love to see her back, but I doubt it will ever happen). I would have loved to see Wes on here as well. Beth, as much as I cannot stand her, is such a glaring omission from Eras 1, but she's in her mid-50's & I doubt she wants to be doing all this crazy stuff they do now, which I can't blame her. Maybe she'll show up on some future season of All-Stars. I also can't stand Tina (barf), I would've liked to see Kina though. Great to see Jodi again (aside from seeing her on All-Stars). But overall, I love the Eras 1 cast (minus Aneesa, I've seen enough of her to last 80 lifetimes). Tell me who you would have liked to see & who you feel like is a wasted spot (Amanda - but I guess they need villains). There are a few people I either don't remember or maybe I just don't recognize their photos (like Tori is barely recognizable in her pic). I don't have time right now to comment further, maybe will continue later.
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Post by Bearcata on Mar 14, 2024 17:28:16 GMT
Jordan got dropped. Ryan Kehoe or Jay Mitchel with replace.
I know Jordan dropped. I didn't know if everyone else knew or wanted to know that. That's why I put it in a spoiler. But since it's now out there, it was because it conflicted with his racecar driving pursuit that he seems to be very serious about right now. So tell me what you think of the Eras cast. There are a few people I wish could have been on, but I'm sure there were a few fan faves that couldn't because of life or other commitments (like Jenna just had baby #3, I would love to see her back, but I doubt it will ever happen). I would have loved to see Wes on here as well. Beth, as much as I cannot stand her, is such a glaring omission from Eras 1, but she's in her mid-50's & I doubt she wants to be doing all this crazy stuff they do now, which I can't blame her. Maybe she'll show up on some future season of All-Stars. I also can't stand Tina (barf), I would've liked to see Kina though. Great to see Jodi again (aside from seeing her on All-Stars). But overall, I love the Eras 1 cast (minus Aneesa, I've seen enough of her to last 80 lifetimes). Tell me who you would have liked to see & who you feel like is a wasted spot (Amanda - but I guess they need villains).There are a few people I either don't remember or maybe I just don't recognize their photos (like Tori is barely recognizable in her pic). I don't have time right now to comment further, maybe will continue later. Jordan dropping was a lot of the podcasts after the cast list came out, then several hours after that or the next day there were rumors that Jordan actually made the cast. Who knows.
I was very fortunate last year I found a YouTube site that you could logon and watch all the seasons, yes all of them. It was on line and very grainy so I watched Road Rules: All Stars, Real World vs. Road Rules, Challenge 2000, and Extreme Challenge. I got to watch some folks who never appeared on more than one season. I didn't know who Yes was, I didn't know Kefla, or Ayanna. I do like seeing how these players are vs how there were back then, it gives All Stars much more context.
I really don't care who they cast as long as they have a diverse cast that provides the drama, the gameplay, and the athletics.
The only person I truly like to see is Cara Maria as her journey resonates with me.
Coral I wouldn't mind seeing again.
It is easier for me to tell you who I don't care to see versus who I would like to see.
1. Aneesa + Big Easy - Never again. Do they honestly believe the story they tell about how great they are and how they only need a chance.
2. Beth - she only quits, and lets face it they only bring her for the drama she creates. I have never seen anyone that instantly everyone hates so much and she is OK with that and enjoys it and encourages it.
3. Ayanna and Aneesa - play the stereotype of the "angry black woman who knows all, and thinks she is the moral compass to all and everyone must kowtow to a T". Ayanna plays this to perfection. I have had co-workers like that and it is not pleasant for anyone. Aneesa plays the moral compass angle more.
I do like that players like Wes, CT, Jordan, and Bananas have stayed off All Stars, let some other male win. Amazing after 39 seasons of the Challenge there are so few male winners.
Don't do solo winners. Please.
I can't stand all these males that huff and puff out their chests about how great they are and to "bring it" and don't perform - Syrus, Brandon, and Niemiah to name a few and if they are not on the screen I don't miss them. Oh, let's not forget Tyrie and Derrick Henry - muscles, no brains, and no performance.
Jasmine and Veronica because Jasmine literally cannot do anything and Veronica looks like a Charmin (toilet paper) Bear. She comes across as she doesn't care and does not really put in the effort. It's not about fat shaming of anything like that. You can be fit fat, its that she literally comes across as if she is only there for the appearance fee.
Cannot STAND Nicole. Hate her personality, hate her horndog ways, she is pot stirrer but she does it with people's feelings and that is nasty.
Tina - I don't know - a bully. I confuse her with Sylvia but Sylvia at least made it to a final and would have won if it was not for Marie and her stupid loyalty to Ashley Mitchell.
Nia - wow almost forgot about her. Yes, I see her on a journey and was shocked by the Nia + Jordan hookup. But her entitlement kills me.
What surprises me is after all these years players come back into the game and how they played 10/15 years ago has not changed and they are still shocked with all the lying and backstabbing. Ace and Ruthie are great examples of this. The game was not fair back then and it is not fair now, that is the point.
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Post by holly on Mar 15, 2024 2:50:20 GMT
I know Jordan dropped. I didn't know if everyone else knew or wanted to know that. That's why I put it in a spoiler. But since it's now out there, it was because it conflicted with his racecar driving pursuit that he seems to be very serious about right now. So tell me what you think of the Eras cast. There are a few people I wish could have been on, but I'm sure there were a few fan faves that couldn't because of life or other commitments (like Jenna just had baby #3, I would love to see her back, but I doubt it will ever happen). I would have loved to see Wes on here as well. Beth, as much as I cannot stand her, is such a glaring omission from Eras 1, but she's in her mid-50's & I doubt she wants to be doing all this crazy stuff they do now, which I can't blame her. Maybe she'll show up on some future season of All-Stars. I also can't stand Tina (barf), I would've liked to see Kina though. Great to see Jodi again (aside from seeing her on All-Stars). But overall, I love the Eras 1 cast (minus Aneesa, I've seen enough of her to last 80 lifetimes). Tell me who you would have liked to see & who you feel like is a wasted spot (Amanda - but I guess they need villains).There are a few people I either don't remember or maybe I just don't recognize their photos (like Tori is barely recognizable in her pic). I don't have time right now to comment further, maybe will continue later. Jordan dropping was a lot of the podcasts after the cast list came out, then several hours after that or the next day there were rumors that Jordan actually made the cast. Who knows.
I was very fortunate last year I found a YouTube site that you could logon and watch all the seasons, yes all of them. It was on line and very grainy so I watched Road Rules: All Stars, Real World vs. Road Rules, Challenge 2000, and Extreme Challenge. I got to watch some folks who never appeared on more than one season. I didn't know who Yes was, I didn't know Kefla, or Ayanna. I do like seeing how these players are vs how there were back then, it gives All Stars much more context. I binged all the seasons in 2021, I think I might have been on the same YouTube channel you’re talking about. But I only watched the very early seasons there, & then watched the rest on Hulu (before they were moved to Paramount +, so my memory isn’t real fresh on a lot of them, but I have rewatched certain seasons & episodes on Paramount+.
I know there are missing episodes from a few seasons, & now they’ve removed the seasons that Bear was on, which I think is stupid. It’s not like he was the only person on there. There was an entire cast of other people with storylines. I’m glad I got to see them before they removed them.
I really liked Yes on All Stars; I really don’t remember if I liked him on his other Challenge seasons, but I can’t imagine not liking him. He was so calm on All Stars & I don’t remember him being mean to anyone.
I don’t remember Kefla at all.
The only thing I remember about Ayanna was she wore her uniform under her clothes because she knew she was going to get voted into an elimination. I don’t even remember which season that was.
I really don't care who they cast as long as they have a diverse cast that provides the drama, the gameplay, and the athletics.
The only person I truly like to see is Cara Maria as her journey resonates with me.
I love Cara Maria & am so excited to see her back! It’s so overdue (I’m not counting the mercenary appearance on S39).
Coral I wouldn't mind seeing again.
Agree
It is easier for me to tell you who I don't care to see versus who I would like to see.
1. Aneesa + Big Easy - Never again. Do they honestly believe the story they tell about how great they are and how they only need a chance.
1000% agree! 2. Beth - she only quits, and lets face it they only bring her for the drama she creates. I have never seen anyone that instantly everyone hates so much and she is OK with that and enjoys it and encourages it. That’s why I would’ve liked to see her. She’s the villain we love to hate. It would be interesting to see her & Amanda interact. Would they hate each other or does spite recognize spite & they team up to make everyone else as miserable as possible? I can’t stand either of them, BTW…
3. Ayanna and Aneesa - play the stereotype of the "angry black woman who knows all, and thinks she is the moral compass to all and everyone must kowtow to a T". Ayanna plays this to perfection. I have had co-workers like that and it is not pleasant for anyone. Aneesa plays the moral compass angle more. I don’t remember that about Ayanna, but as I said my memory isn’t always great. Aneesa is definitely a know it all, & does seem to think she’s morally superior to others. I really cannot stand her. I am so sick of her. It was nice to not see her this past season.
I do like that players like Wes, CT, Jordan, and Bananas have stayed off All Stars, let some other male win. Amazing after 39 seasons of the Challenge there are so few male winners.
Don't do solo winners. Please. HARD AGREE! I don’t like that either.
I can't stand all these males that huff and puff out their chests about how great they are and to "bring it" and don't perform - Syrus, Brandon, and Niemiah to name a few and if they are not on the screen I don't miss them. Oh, let's not forget Tyrie and Derrick Henry - muscles, no brains, and no performance. Agree. Don’t talk a big game if you can’t deliver.
Jasmine and Veronica because Jasmine literally cannot do anything and Veronica looks like a Charmin (toilet paper) Bear. She comes across as she doesn't care and does not really put in the effort. It's not about fat shaming of anything like that. You can be fit fat, its that she literally comes across as if she is only there for the appearance fee.
The only thing I remember about Jasmine is she was on Rivals with Jonna. Don’t remember much else about her. 🤷🏻♀️
Cannot STAND Nicole. Hate her personality, hate her horndog ways, she is pot stirrer but she does it with people's feelings and that is nasty. She’s so gross. She’s a serial cheater, & she loves the drama & attention.
Tina - I don't know - a bully. I confuse her with Sylvia but Sylvia at least made it to a final and would have won if it was not for Marie and her stupid loyalty to Ashley Mitchell. ITA that Tina is a bully. I can’t stand her. I barely remember Sylvia. I can recognize her face, but I can’t recall anything else. 🤷🏻♀️
Nia - wow almost forgot about her. Yes, I see her on a journey and was shocked by the Nia + Jordan hookup. But her entitlement kills me. The only thing I remember about Nia is she got kicked off Battle of the Exes for groping Jordan.
What surprises me is after all these years players come back into the game and how they played 10/15 years ago has not changed and they are still shocked with all the lying and backstabbing. Ace and Ruthie are great examples of this. The game was not fair back then and it is not fair now, that is the point.
Yeah, I can see that.
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Post by Bearcata on Mar 15, 2024 5:31:53 GMT
Jordan dropping was a lot of the podcasts after the cast list came out, then several hours after that or the next day there were rumors that Jordan actually made the cast. Who knows.
I was very fortunate last year I found a YouTube site that you could logon and watch all the seasons, yes all of them. It was on line and very grainy so I watched Road Rules: All Stars, Real World vs. Road Rules, Challenge 2000, and Extreme Challenge. I got to watch some folks who never appeared on more than one season. I didn't know who Yes was, I didn't know Kefla, or Ayanna. I do like seeing how these players are vs how there were back then, it gives All Stars much more context. I binged all the seasons in 2021, I think I might have been on the same YouTube channel you’re talking about. But I only watched the very early seasons there, & then watched the rest on Hulu (before they were moved to Paramount +, so my memory isn’t real fresh on a lot of them, but I have rewatched certain seasons & episodes on Paramount+.
I know there are missing episodes from a few seasons, & now they’ve removed the seasons that Bear was on, which I think is stupid. It’s not like he was the only person on there. There was an entire cast of other people with storylines. I’m glad I got to see them before they removed them.
I really liked Yes on All Stars; I really don’t remember if I liked him on his other Challenge seasons, but I can’t imagine not liking him. He was so calm on All Stars & I don’t remember him being mean to anyone.
I don’t remember Kefla at all.
The only thing I remember about Ayanna was she wore her uniform under her clothes because she knew she was going to get voted into an elimination. I don’t even remember which season that was.
I really don't care who they cast as long as they have a diverse cast that provides the drama, the gameplay, and the athletics.
The only person I truly like to see is Cara Maria as her journey resonates with me.
I love Cara Maria & am so excited to see her back! It’s so overdue (I’m not counting the mercenary appearance on S39).
Coral I wouldn't mind seeing again.
Agree
It is easier for me to tell you who I don't care to see versus who I would like to see.
1. Aneesa + Big Easy - Never again. Do they honestly believe the story they tell about how great they are and how they only need a chance.
1000% agree! 2. Beth - she only quits, and lets face it they only bring her for the drama she creates. I have never seen anyone that instantly everyone hates so much and she is OK with that and enjoys it and encourages it. That’s why I would’ve liked to see her. She’s the villain we love to hate. It would be interesting to see her & Amanda interact. Would they hate each other or does spite recognize spite & they team up to make everyone else as miserable as possible? I can’t stand either of them, BTW…
3. Ayanna and Aneesa - play the stereotype of the "angry black woman who knows all, and thinks she is the moral compass to all and everyone must kowtow to a T". Ayanna plays this to perfection. I have had co-workers like that and it is not pleasant for anyone. Aneesa plays the moral compass angle more. I don’t remember that about Ayanna, but as I said my memory isn’t always great. Aneesa is definitely a know it all, & does seem to think she’s morally superior to others. I really cannot stand her. I am so sick of her. It was nice to not see her this past season.
I do like that players like Wes, CT, Jordan, and Bananas have stayed off All Stars, let some other male win. Amazing after 39 seasons of the Challenge there are so few male winners.
Don't do solo winners. Please. HARD AGREE! I don’t like that either.
I can't stand all these males that huff and puff out their chests about how great they are and to "bring it" and don't perform - Syrus, Brandon, and Niemiah to name a few and if they are not on the screen I don't miss them. Oh, let's not forget Tyrie and Derrick Henry - muscles, no brains, and no performance. Agree. Don’t talk a big game if you can’t deliver.
Jasmine and Veronica because Jasmine literally cannot do anything and Veronica looks like a Charmin (toilet paper) Bear. She comes across as she doesn't care and does not really put in the effort. It's not about fat shaming of anything like that. You can be fit fat, its that she literally comes across as if she is only there for the appearance fee.
The only thing I remember about Jasmine is she was on Rivals with Jonna. Don’t remember much else about her. 🤷🏻♀️
Cannot STAND Nicole. Hate her personality, hate her horndog ways, she is pot stirrer but she does it with people's feelings and that is nasty. She’s so gross. She’s a serial cheater, & she loves the drama & attention.
Tina - I don't know - a bully. I confuse her with Sylvia but Sylvia at least made it to a final and would have won if it was not for Marie and her stupid loyalty to Ashley Mitchell. ITA that Tina is a bully. I can’t stand her. I barely remember Sylvia. I can recognize her face, but I can’t recall anything else. 🤷🏻♀️
Nia - wow almost forgot about her. Yes, I see her on a journey and was shocked by the Nia + Jordan hookup. But her entitlement kills me. The only thing I remember about Nia is she got kicked off Battle of the Exes for groping Jordan.
What surprises me is after all these years players come back into the game and how they played 10/15 years ago has not changed and they are still shocked with all the lying and backstabbing. Ace and Ruthie are great examples of this. The game was not fair back then and it is not fair now, that is the point.
Yeah, I can see that.
They removed all of Bear's scenes? Removed the seasons? They removed 2019 The Challenge: War of the Worlds , 2019 The Challenge: War of the Worlds 2, 2020 The Challenge: Total Madness? Some of the best seasons and and with the Brits? Are they crazy. It is so stupid. Seriously the dude as an ass and went to jail, same with Dee I never read what she said on Twitter and I don't care. I want to see the seasons. MTV is stupid if they think they are offending anyone by airing this content.
Just checked Paramount + Seasons 33, 34, 35 are missing.
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Post by holly on Mar 15, 2024 13:55:08 GMT
Yep, it’s ridiculous. They didn’t remove Total Madness because of Dee. They removed it because Bear was also on that season. They had already managed to edit out almost every scene with Dee prior to removing the entire season due to Bear going to jail. Some of the seasons are missing the reunion shows. Some of the seasons that are missing at least one episode are The Ruins, Inferno 3, & Duel 2. I know there are a lot more, but this is just a few. Here’s a pretty thorough summary of what happened with Dee & BLM: www.today.com/tmrw/mtv-s-challenge-cuts-ties-dee-nguyen-over-blm-comments-t183763
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Post by Bearcata on Mar 18, 2024 16:07:00 GMT
Yep, it’s ridiculous. They didn’t remove Total Madness because of Dee. They removed it because Bear was also on that season. They had already managed to edit out almost every scene with Dee prior to removing the entire season due to Bear going to jail. Some of the seasons are missing the reunion shows. Some of the seasons that are missing at least one episode are The Ruins, Inferno 3, & Duel 2. I know there are a lot more, but this is just a few. Here’s a pretty thorough summary of what happened with Dee & BLM: www.today.com/tmrw/mtv-s-challenge-cuts-ties-dee-nguyen-over-blm-comments-t183763The thing is now everyone knows that the entire BLM organization was a scam and raised money for a few and they never did anything with it and they were never charged with fraud or made to return the 60 million they raised. I hate that MTV is so afraid of cancel culture. The same with sexual assaults, Kenny and Evan were banned from future seasons of The Challenge because of what they did to Tonya, which Kenny still does not understand was a vile thing to do to. However MTV did not pull all the seasons those two guys were on. Lets not even start with Camilla and her alcohol fueled rage against Leroy. Camilla got banned from the show for assaulting a production assistant and stealing a golf cart two seasons later. If MTV really was so culturally sensitive it would also pull those seasons. What would be left?
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Post by holly on Mar 18, 2024 21:19:13 GMT
I completely agree with all of this!
Very much random choosing of who to ban & which episodes & seasons to pull.
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Post by Bearcata on Mar 19, 2024 4:12:42 GMT
I completely agree with all of this! Very much random choosing of who to ban & which episodes & seasons to pull. The total randomness and timing is insane.
Oh, totally forgot why Emy Alupei was banned. Remember the blue haired singer from Romanian on Spies, Lies, and Allies? Emanuel and Emy were scheduled to be on season 39 Ride or Dies but there was something about her singing a rap song with the N word in it.
After her success on the Challenge someone dug around the internet and found a clip of Emy Auditoning for X Factor Romania.
Seriously dumb reason to pull a person whose second language is English, and is a singer, singing a song from a huge celebrity from something that happened n 2016 which was 5 years before SLA aired. I am sure Emy is not the only non melanined person singing African American rap songs on the internet.
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Post by holly on Mar 22, 2024 14:26:10 GMT
I completely agree with all of this! Very much random choosing of who to ban & which episodes & seasons to pull. The total randomness and timing is insane.
Oh, totally forgot why Emy Alupei was banned. Remember the blue haired singer from Romanian on Spies, Lies, and Allies? Emanuel and Emy were scheduled to be on season 39 Ride or Dies but there was something about her singing a rap song with the N word in it.
After her success on the Challenge someone dug around the internet and found a clip of Emy Auditoning for X Factor Romania.
Seriously dumb reason to pull a person whose second language is English, and is a singer, singing a song from a huge celebrity from something that happened n 2016 which was 5 years before SLA aired. I am sure Emy is not the only non melanined person singing African American rap songs on the internet.
I knew about that, & I agree it's very unlikely she knew at the time how offensive that word is because of the language barrier. She drove me up a wall & I'm not a fan, but I agree it's pretty stupid to ban her. I mean if MTV wants to blame anyone for it, then blame themselves for not doing their due diligence before casting her. But I find it hard to believe they didn't know about it ahead of casting her. They had to have known who she was prior to casting her because she was a reality TV "celebrity", & that's what they look for. Funny how MTV only banned her after FANS of the show managed to find that clip, but a whole department of people whose job it is to do thorough background checks on contestants didn't find this? Something that is probably pretty easy to find. Come on, MTV...I don't think anyone believes they were clueless about it. Camilla is the real racist & they only banned her after she physically attacked a staff member. Not for doing blackface, not for her tirade against poor Leroy, & God only knows what else that didn't make it on the air & we don't know about it. Make it make sense! (It doesn't)
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