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Post by Bearcata on Feb 11, 2024 3:32:53 GMT
Oh wow. Breaking ribs is super painful, and a head injury? I thought Michelle dislocated a shoulder. Ok. I just did a binge, and I'm so caught up. Ugh. Jay. What a disappointment. I used to think he was rather cute but ugh, he has gotten so ugly. I think it's his personality shining through. He gets so angry; he's like a petulant child. He's horrible. Disgusting. And Asaf, who acted like he's some kind of hero, can go in the garbage, too. You aren't that interesting or smart. Olivia! SMH. What? Also, I was surprised at how she was sort of forgiven by Nurys and figured there was more to it. Also, I think Olivia is super likable and not that smart (I mean, she came from Love Island), so I think she's easier to forgive. How can she run around with a leaking implant? How can she afford another boob job???? But yeah, that would have been a much better outcome than the Jay team. Also, Berna and the way she wears her shorts, she does this because that's how she wears them when she breakdances? What? Did I hear that right?Berna does circus and circus outfits can be very small. However most circus acrobats are in absolute top shape.
Notice how Moriah sorta does the same? She rolls and tucks her shorts.
Olivia is giving me Aneesa vibes as in getting injuried in the Challenge a lot. I mean two seasons in a row and getting her nose and orbital bones broken, now broken ribs and ruptured implant.
Asaf and Emanuel want to appear as these big tuff guys ... Emanuel is vile on his X/Twitter page ... he blames all the girls in the house doing sexual things to him and he couldn't stop them so that really was not cheating on his girlfriend. He recently posted that women will always be second class citizens because they always make bad choices. Both A&E think they are making these snappy comebacks in the confessionals but they are cringe. While keeping out of elimination is a strategy the team format prevented us viewers from ever seeing them excel at anything. I mean they can carry heavy loads and push stuff but when it came to strategy and puzzles it was always Michele, Jay, Kyland, and Ed. The final is not just carrying heavy stuff is it everything. I sincerely hope to never see Asaf or Emanuel on another Challenge. They bring no entertainment value at all. I don't even feel disgust toward them not like I do toward Jay.
Jay ... everything Jay has done is a valid strategy to get thru this part of the game and be in the final. What I do not like is HOW he did it and his reasoning. If you are going to be a villain OWN IT. The problem with Jay besides constantly twisting what was done and said was his behavior to a person who is a real life friend outside of The Challenge. Because of how Jay behaved toward Nurys and how he handles the entire Horacio, Kyland, Nurys relationship he put Nurys in a difficult situation and wanted to deliberately hurt her and teach her a lesson in a very public manner. Scares the crap out of me to how he would deal with a person in a private relationship a very scary abusive relationship. Jay put Nurys into the underdog hero storyarc that makes Nurys a face for the Challenge and potentially a legend in the future. This is the storyarc Jay wanted for himself and will never have.
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Post by beerbelly on Feb 11, 2024 12:32:41 GMT
YES! He comes off as seriously abusive. Uncontrolled anger. It's scary because it's so unhinged. The way he reacted to Kyland? Scary. It's incredible how some men react when they don't get what they want for once.
Eww! Throw Emanuel away too, he brings nothing to the table.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 12, 2024 18:37:57 GMT
YES! He comes off as seriously abusive. Uncontrolled anger. It's scary because it's so unhinged. The way he reacted to Kyland? Scary. It's incredible how some men react when they don't get what they want for once. Eww! Throw Emanuel away too, he brings nothing to the table. I am rewatching some of the episodes before this weeks finale. It's the first episode in the Conquest part and K&H&Z have just been sent into elimination and Jay has put Nurys in the position she could save either her best friend or her new boyfriend to screw it to her. In Jay's confessional he states that he is not playing emotionally he is playing from a gamer's perspective. Then he goes to explain that Olivia and Nurys do not care about him, that Olivia & Nurys were wrong to save Ed and not Emanuel, on and on about every emotional highlight of several episodes. All of this screams emotion not logic and yet Jay can say with a straight face that he is not playing emotionally. Amazing how you can lie to yourself and rewrite events.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 12, 2024 23:06:03 GMT
Regarding Emanuel. Almost every shot you see of him is him lying in bed listening to Jay and Michele and whatever random girl is in the room plotting and strategizing and Em goes 'yeah'. Then production has maybe shown 2 or 3 scenes of Em and Berna talking and recently it has been about their moms. I am absolutely not vested in either person. I know nothing. And the little I see I am not impressed. Berna gets into fights with everyone. (On SLA CT was very happy to have Berna as a partner because of her physical skills but dropped her as soon as possible because she got into fights with everyone). Emanuel has sex with everyone and has horrible confessionals. Berna I can see coming back because of the drama but Emanuel? He sleeps, had bad tats, has not shown anything as a daily challenge winner, messes with all the girls, slags them totally on X, and is so forgettable that he is not even boring.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 13, 2024 1:24:25 GMT
Finished watching episode 16 again. Funny what you miss the first time around. In one of Kylands very last confessionals during the elimination he stated that "only three people are getting paid, I want to be one of the three".
I know there is only one winner and I assumed that the winner was getting all the money, this is the first I am hearing that the top three will get money.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 13, 2024 16:44:20 GMT
I finished the rewatch of episode 17 and have to go over the argument between Nurys and Jay again. It was mainly Jay blaming Nurys for putting Jay in "danger", "on the sand". Well you can always check the voting record on the Wiki Challenge page or the Challenge Fandom Wiki.
Nurys voted for Jay in episode 3 - he only received one vote.
Kyland, Horacio, Zara, Ravyn voted for Jay in episode 13 - he received four votes - it was the House Vote and Kyland was sent in.
Ed voted for Jay in episode 14 - he received one vote and it was to create a stalemate situation creating Chaos so the mercenary CT could pick anyone and he picked Asaf.
Jay was NEVER the Winner's Pick to go into elimination.
Jay was NEVER the House Vote to go into elimination.
During Selection Jay was NEVER in the bottom three.
The ONLY time Jay faced the possibility of being sent into elimination was episode 7 when Devin could pick anyone and episode 14 when CT could pick anyone.
Why did I lay all of this out? Because Jay's argued with Nurys that becasue of her not having his back and voting how he wanted he had been in danger. In episode 7 Nurys voted for Corey as did Jay and the US Alliance. In episode 14 Nurys voted for Emanuel, Jay's new bestie. Jay was mad at her becasue it put Emanuel in danger and not Ed.
The facts do not support Jay's argument.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 14, 2024 16:32:19 GMT
Season 39 Episode 18 - "The Beginning Of The End" - February 14, 2024 Happy Valentine's Day to everyone. Happy Ash Wednesday to the Faithful. Yeah, to the start of the Season 39 Final. Yes, it will be in two parts, concluding next week.
Who is left:Corey+Emanuel+Jay Berna+Colleen+Moriah+Nurys Who will win/chances: Corey is big and muscular and said he played sports growing up but I get the impression he does not know how to use his body and is not athletic. Have we really seen him do anything this season? Emanuel is a sleeper. He can't do strategy, he can't do a confessional, he didn't win any individual daily challenges, he was not in any eliminations, have not seen him do any puzzles. He did great in Spies, Lies, and Allies but he had a great partner is Kaycee who is way smarter then Em.
Jay without vet interference can manipulate and control a game. He does not have patience for the long game and turns on his allies. Have not seen him in any eliminations, he has won a individual daily challenge that really catered to his direct skill set.
Berna has a pulled groin muscle is it still bothering her? Colleen does not have good cardio as she had problems in the mini final or was she faking? Moriah did a great job with Fessy on her first season, but how will she do on her own and with puzzles and we know she is not good with water.
Nurys we have seen do well in eliminations, she has heart, she is angry with her current teammates, she wants to win, and she is an all around player meaning she can do puzzles and she is remaining calm and focused which is a huge advantage.
Summary: Lets face it Nurys is everyone's favorite at this point as she has gotten the underdog edit and we have seen her overcome some tough spots. Absolutely believe she can finish a final. But can she win against the boys. If there was a female and male winner this season absolutely she would be the favorite to win.
As for the boys, I simply do not know as they have been playing a team format this entire season and it is really hard to judge how skilled and ready these players are. The reason everyone rooted for Kyland and Horacio is that we saw what they could do in eliminations and we all could get a feel for what they could do, the others are a blank.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 15, 2024 1:59:55 GMT
OK, money for top three places confirmed.
Part one - didn't finish - $16,000 deducted from the money.
Shocker - an elimination - Corey vs Jay.
Jay is eliminated from the Challenge.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 15, 2024 2:35:45 GMT
After watching this final I can guarantee NO ONE will ever want Berna in one.
Negative. Negative. Negative. Negative. Negative.
I just can't take the negativity.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 15, 2024 2:36:23 GMT
mmmmm......Emanuel who are you going to send into elimination?
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 15, 2024 2:37:09 GMT
In one sense this final is brutal but the equity of the competition leaves much to be desired.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 15, 2024 2:41:44 GMT
I was yelling at Corey saying everyone left has been abused and used. I am sure Big T and Melissa can sympathize.
Please do not rewrite history.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 15, 2024 3:20:16 GMT
Sidebar: Kaycee is pregnant???? Rumour!!!!!
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 15, 2024 3:43:11 GMT
I am on Olivia Kaiser's Instagram page and she says she never said anything about Nurys being broke that Aneesa said it to Nurys's brother. That Aneesa was trying to hook up with said brother and supposedly hoping they could get closer by Aneesa revealing all this s*** that Olivia was saying about Nurys.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 15, 2024 15:21:31 GMT
I am listening to the MTV Official Challenge podcast - Jay was supposed to be the guest but did not appear.
Devyn commented that the podcast is a safe space for guests to tell their story.
Jay is getting a lot of criticism online but it is for "throwing rocks and then hiding his hands rather than stand on it".
Own what you did like Michele did, but Devyn stated that Jay wanted to play victim and that was weird.
Jay does get it at the reunion.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 15, 2024 15:23:48 GMT
Hated the Survivor moment - the letters from home. This is the Challenge NOT Survivor.
Anyone think the letter Emanuel got from his girlfriend was a bit much. Didn't he hook up with Olivia, Ravyn, Colleen, and some others?
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 15, 2024 19:29:31 GMT
Analysis:
Finishes: Emanuel - 1+1+1+2+2 Corey - 2+2+2+1+2 Berna - 3+1+2+3+1 Moriah - 3+3+1+1+3 Colleen - 1+2+3+3+3 Nurys - 2+3+3+2+1
If 1st place is worth 3 points, 2nd place is worth 2 points, and 3rd place is worth 1 point
1. Emanuel - 13 pts 2. Corey - 11 pts 3. Berna - 10 pts 3. Moriah - 9 pts 4. Colleen - 8 pts 4. Nurys - 7 pts
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 15, 2024 19:32:15 GMT
Anyone notice that Berna pulled her groin at the beginning of the season about two months ago in real time and can't run but she could win the running on a hamster win in the last daily challenge?
I also noticed that she drags her female partners but does well when partnered with Emanuel and Corey.
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Post by FireWoman on Feb 15, 2024 19:44:21 GMT
Emanuel is so scummy. I wonder if his crap ass behaviour is why they showed the letters, to call his man-ho'ing ways out. I don't see why/how he is getting all these women on this show.. every season. I hope, as well, to never see him again after this season. I have a sick feeling e wins however. Gawd, I hope I am wrong.
Unlike you, I love Berna.. not even sure why but I do. I, also unlike you, cannot stand Nurys... have not liked her since her first season. Of all the people in the final I rather have Collen or Bera win.. I don't like any of the rest of them on a personal level. This season was meh for me due to how many I disliked. I loved Ed, and wanted him to win. I hope he will be back again.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 15, 2024 20:21:03 GMT
Emanuel is so scummy. I wonder if his crap ass behaviour is why they showed the letters, to call his man-ho'ing ways out. I don't see why/how he is getting all these women on this show.. every season. I hope, as well, to never see him again after this season. I have a sick feeling e wins however. Gawd, I hope I am wrong. Unlike you, I love Berna.. not even sure why but I do. I, also unlike you, cannot stand Nurys... have not liked her since her first season. Of all the people in the final I rather have Collen or Bera win.. I don't like any of the rest of them on a personal level. This season was meh for me due to how many I disliked. I loved Ed, and wanted him to win. I hope he will be back again. Agree with Emanuel's scumminess. I also don't like how he disses women on his Tweeter account. He has stated that he never approached any on the girls in the house and that they all came on to him and had their way with him. (Technically that is sexual assault) He also said that he didn't cheat on his girlfriend because it was the girls coming onto him. Emanuel is a person I hope to never see again as the way he personally carries himself through the game and how he treats women on the show and how he trashes them on his social media and I don't think he brings much value to the franchise.
As far as disliking or liking the cast. We all have out likes and dislikes. I mostly watch for the competition and story arcs. Very rarely do I truly like or dislike anyone on a personal level, OK I give it may not seem that way. I mainly react to what cast members do, what they say, and how they perform.
I neither like or dislike Nurys. I really do appreciate her storyarc especially being thrown into two eliminations and winning. I remember she was a very good partner for Nelly during Rides of Dies. I don't necessarily appreciate a party girl. This franchise needs Fresh Blood and I was surprised that Nurys is a find, she is messy, she is smart, she is a competitor, and she has heart. Nurys with Horacio and Kyland made for very fun and exciting episodes leading to the final.
As for Berna. She brings drama. However I have emotionally demanding co-workers and in-laws just like Berna and while interesting on the screen it is exhausting to be around. I do appreciate that people have various trauma in their lives but I don't appreciate it when they wallow in it, and wallow in it, and wallow in it. I also wonder if Berna is faking some of this and her groin injury. Funny how she just won a daily challenge running on a giant hamster wheel yet she cannot run a leg of a final. Same muscles. Also Berna goes on and on and on how people don't let her do stuff in a daily, that she had mad circus skills, and how she wants to prove herself to everyone. OK, Berna it is the final. Perfect place to show off your skills, just like Amber did on Spies and Lies. What do I see? Berna dogging it with the girl partners, Berna doing well with the male partners, Berna lying on the ground a lot saying she can't do it. Show the entire world how she deserves to be in a final and showing off her skill set with no one holding her back and it is not a good look.
Ed - did he even have 5 minutes of total air time for the entire season?
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Post by sunnydayz on Feb 15, 2024 20:42:35 GMT
I'm glad to see this season finally coming to an end. Not my favorite by far. Dragged out too long, too many weeks with no eliminations, and only one top winner instead of one male and one female.
Had to lol at Nurys' comment as she's competing in the final, "...because none of these people have my back." This is the final! Nobody should have anybody's back at this point. Compete and play to win! And if you get the chance, eliminate your toughest competition.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 15, 2024 22:37:23 GMT
I'm glad to see this season finally coming to an end. Not my favorite by far. Dragged out too long, too many weeks with no eliminations, and only one top winner instead of one male and one female. Had to lol at Nurys' comment as she's competing in the final, "...because none of these people have my back." This is the final! Nobody should have anybody's back at this point. Compete and play to win! And if you get the chance, eliminate your toughest competition. This "these are my friends attitude" really gets me. For example if I am playing monopoly with my "friends" I am playing to win. They will still be my friends afterwards or friendly.
I can totally understand having one or two people very close and trying to save them, but that is it. But there is a point when you have to do it for yourself. This is why I have no respect for Tori and how she plays the game. Two specific examples. In the World Championships Tori was in a team with Danny and to be honest they had a very good chance of winning but Tori sabotaged her own team because she was in love with Jordan. This from a person who always claims she is super competitive. LIAR. It is also disrespectful to everyone who clawed their way into a final and was doing their best to win and Tori just gives it away.
In Spies, Lies and Allies, Tori and others vote Emanuel into the very last elimination before the final. Em can pick whomever he wants to battle it out in elimination. Tori whispers several time "don't pick Devin". So of course Emanuel picks Devin. (Backstory - Devin and Tori had mended their feud and where starting to work together) During the elimination Tori was actively trying tell Emanuel the answer to a puzzle. Nelly called her out on it and she stated "I want both to win". Duh!
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Post by beerbelly on Feb 16, 2024 22:10:55 GMT
I used to like Berna, but I agree with you, Bear, she wallows, and I feel like she sees herself as a constant victim and that the whole world is against her. Constant upheaval. I was watching the letters (my least favorite part of Survivor and don't like it here either, except to shame dirty Em) and knew Berna was going to meltdown.
I loved watching Jay lose! Loved seeing his frustration and anger get the best of him. I wish Cory wasn't such an a$$hat the whole season, or else I would have been pulling for him.
I tried to find confirmation on Kacee's pregnancy but found a comment that said, 'They're about to give birth to the most boring human being to ever exist' Lol. Someone mentioned that Nany smokes???
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 17, 2024 1:03:04 GMT
I used to like Berna, but I agree with you, Bear, she wallows, and I feel like she sees herself as a constant victim and that the whole world is against her. Constant upheaval. I was watching the letters (my least favorite part of Survivor and don't like it here either, except to shame dirty Em) and knew Berna was going to meltdown. I loved watching Jay lose! Loved seeing his frustration and anger get the best of him. I wish Cory wasn't such an a$$hat the whole season, or else I would have been pulling for him. I tried to find confirmation on Kacee's pregnancy but found a comment that said, 'They're about to give birth to the most boring human being to ever exist' Lol. Someone mentioned that Nany smokes??? Through out many seasons I have seen Aneesa, Nany, Devin, and CT smoke. Definitely saw Devin and CT smoking in Spies, Lies, and Allies. They hide it with their hands down and they rarely show it but they do smoke.
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Post by holly on Feb 20, 2024 6:11:12 GMT
Anyone notice that Berna pulled her groin at the beginning of the season about two months ago in real time and can't run but she could win the running on a hamster win in the last daily challenge? I also noticed that she drags her female partners but does well when partnered with Emanuel and Corey. Because they carry her. The girls don't or can't. Emanuel was the reason they came in first in the kayak. I can't remember which task she had with Corey.
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Post by holly on Feb 20, 2024 6:19:52 GMT
I used to like Berna, but I agree with you, Bear, she wallows, and I feel like she sees herself as a constant victim and that the whole world is against her. Constant upheaval. I was watching the letters (my least favorite part of Survivor and don't like it here either, except to shame dirty Em) and knew Berna was going to meltdown. I loved watching Jay lose! Loved seeing his frustration and anger get the best of him. I wish Cory wasn't such an a$$hat the whole season, or else I would have been pulling for him. I tried to find confirmation on Kacee's pregnancy but found a comment that said, 'They're about to give birth to the most boring human being to ever exist' Lol. Someone mentioned that Nany smokes??? Throught out many seasons I have seen Aneesa, Nany, Devin, and CT smoke. Definitely saw Devin and CT smoking in Spies, Lies, and Allies. They hide it with their hands down and they rarely show it but they do smoke. I'm pretty sure Bananas smokes as well.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 20, 2024 7:00:52 GMT
Anyone notice that Berna pulled her groin at the beginning of the season about two months ago in real time and can't run but she could win the running on a hamster win in the last daily challenge? I also noticed that she drags her female partners but does well when partnered with Emanuel and Corey. Because they carry her. The girls don't or can't. Emanuel was the reason they came in first in the kayak. I can't remember which task she had with Corey. Checkpoint #3: Teams must answer a trivia question, swing a hanging chest with the correct answer on it against an overhead saw to release it, and transport the chest to a designated point. Teams then repeat this process for a second chest. If teams answer incorrectly and saw an incorrect chest, they must take that chest, which is heavier, to the designated point instead.
Berna and Corey partnered for the Trivia checkpoint and if you guessed wrong you carried a heavier box. Berna guessed wrong and they carried the heavier box. However both Moriah and Berna had male partners and that made carrying the box easier. Corey even stated in his "X" account that Colleen & Nurys had to carry the same weight box as the mixed pair teams did and it was not fair. Corey mentioned the boxes weighted in at 225lbs.
Also Colleen was no help with the sawing of the rope portion and Nurys looked as if she injured her hand at least twice during the sawing portion. Collen and Nurys timed out on this checkpoint.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 23, 2024 0:39:45 GMT
Season 39 Episode 19 - "Only One Gets The Crown" - February 21, 2024 Like many I was disappointed with Emanuel as the sole winner of season 39. Why? Because he flew under the radar, he gave nothing therefore production had nothing to edit. I don't know this person except that he had sex with multiple woman on the show, all the woman stated that he flirted very heavily with them even though he had a girlfriend, and he made sure that any sexual encounters were done in the bathroom so production could not film it. Then on his X account aka Twitter he trashed all the females he had sex with saying he never cheated on this girlfriend that all the women had their way with him and he was defenseless to stop them and that they were all trash. As a strategy he allied with the strongest alliance in the house and stayed loyal to them avoiding any eliminations. He never says anything, he never discussed strategy with anyone, he does not fight with anyone, he lies on beds and eats chips. He trashed Nurys, Horacio, and Kyland in his confessions. In the last few episodes we find out he has a mother and wants to help her financially. It is not until episode 19 do we find out that he has grandparents in Romania that live in an unheated home and he wants to help them. I don't know this person. I don't care about this person. I don't really know how he got were he was in the game, I don't know his struggles or anything about his life. I got nothing. So when he wins my reaction is "so what who is this person". If there were two winners, a male and female such as Emanuel & Nurys I would have been very happy and satisfied and thought this was a good season. Why?
Because Nurys showed me who she was by her actions and by her confessions. I saw what she did in the house to survive and fight to get to where she was. Nurys gave me something to root for. This season had some very good parts with some long boring parts. The final was much better than I thought it would be. This is a final Michele could have won, with all of the puzzles and swimming. In fact various people could have won the final. If the girls had managed to eliminate all the men it would have been a very fair and exciting final of all females. The season did also bring some fresh faces that can become Challenge staples with Ravyn, Nurys, Horacio, & Kyland as the Heroes. Michele & Jay as the villains. Corey as the Court Jester, and Asaf, Emanuel, and James as the dunces. Lastly, Berna as the crazy one. I would be perfectly happy to never see Asaf or Emanuel on the Challenge ever. They bring nothing, no entertainment value at all. They cannot carry a season.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 23, 2024 16:56:29 GMT
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 24, 2024 3:46:21 GMT
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