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Post by Amy Lee on Feb 24, 2024 6:26:07 GMT
Nurys is my champion.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 24, 2024 19:51:52 GMT
Listened to the MTV Official Challenge Podcast with guest Emanuel winner of Season 39 Wow, I congratulate both Devyn and Da'vonne in their hosting skills keeping the conversation going. Emanuel is not a good conversationalist.
Berna called him before the season asking if he would ally with her. Em said yes and immediately regretted it. Why? Because he could not stand her in Spies, Lies, and Allies.
D&D asked Em how was Berna this season.Em stated that on a personnel level she opened up to him. But on game level, a Challenge level she was exactly the same as in SLA.
Was surprised that Nurys came in second as Corey had 4 flags and Nurys only 3 at the time, he thought Corey would be second.
Emanuel did buy heaters for his grandparents house. Still do not know the status of his mother. Claims there was no sex between him and Colleen. Talked about his girlfriend. He kept calling her "his girlfriend" even though he said they broke up when he got back from the challenge. He did say a lot of the sabotage of Kyland and Horacio during challenges was his idea. He said after he got voted into elimination he talked to Kyland about working together but he really was only trying to get information to use against Kyland and Horacio. However this was already shown on air. He would like to continue to be on the challenge but will not be upset if not called back as he now has money to support himself and work on his projects.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 25, 2024 1:36:17 GMT
Summary & Thoughts - Season 39 From reading past articles and listening to past interviews with Challenge producers there is a lot of time and effort put into the theme of each season, the challenges, the eliminations, and the finals. Much has to be built a head of time and put in place several days ahead and tested to make sure it is safe. Many times the cast has come up with genius ways to get around some of the challenges and eliminations. I do wish the producers would make up their minds regarding helping people in the eliminations. It would be fun if they put a complete stop to help in an elimination and say put the "helpers into elimination instead". I would like to see contestants do it on their own. However, to be honest I did luv it when the entire house helped Horacio & Olivia helped eliminate Turbo & Tamara. It was suck poetic justice to Turbo being an ASS. Day One of the final, did it serve any purpose toward winning except for tiring out the players and setting up the elimination of two players?
I liked the setup of Day Two of the final. The 2000 meter swim was excessive and extremely tiring especially for non swimmers is it basically a mile of swimming. As an equalizer it sucks as the two men with longer legs and arms and greater lung capacity will do the best. For non swimmers like Nurys and in open water not such a great idea.
There should have been two winners, this season, Nurys is the Uncrowned Queen of Season 39.
MTV Real World and Road Rules had some really good castings and had incredibly diverse and unique people and personalities that came into The Challenge. Seeing these people deal with life on a daily basis and with each other was fun, dramatic, and at times overwhelming. Add to that alcohol, drugs, sex, stupidity, and competition for money you have a hit show. The franchise needs new faces and acquired some in Fresh Meat and Fresh Meat II. So why is it so hard now to get fun and interesting people to apply? Casting for some reason is going the route of soap operas hiring the models who can't act and just look pretty. Casting did great with the Brits in War of the Worlds and War of the Worlds 2, unfortunately some of the cast was banned due to the BLM (Dee, Gerogia, and Emy). To be honest it's been enough time I think they should be invited back. At least we have some fresh face with Ravyn, Nurys, Horacio, Kyland, & Olivia. Are Jay and Michele fresh faces? But I would like to see some more. I am not impressed with Corey Lay but I am sure he will be back. Berna will be back just because she is a Great Disturbance In The Force. However people like Ed, Emanuel, Asaf, Moriah, and James are so bland and under the radar that they can not carry an episode, a storyline, a season. Exciting TV they are not. To be honest Horacio belongs in that group too for his adamant refusal to talk strategy or politics in the game. The only reason Horacio was relevant this season was that he was targeted for elimination early and for his love story with Nurys. I hope that MTV can find and cast at least another good 10 people that was they can rotate them with this season's fresh faces, the current Vacation Alliance and the remaining Vets.
Overall the season had some really good moments and fun times. The first three weeks with double episodes was excellent. The Chaos portion with the Vets was a total standstill and the last 5 episodes were outstanding. Outstanding in the sense a lot was happening, I had someone to root for and yell at, and stuff happened.
Cons: If MTV is obligated to create 20 plus episodes it serves itself better if they shortened the season. Season 39 started in October 2023 and will finish in March 2024, just at the 5 month mark of TV viewing.
Can't wait for All Stars 4 which should be airing in March.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 25, 2024 5:08:41 GMT
FYI: Season Reunion will air Feb 28, 2024 should be two parts both 90 minutes long. I do not like the host Maria Min... whatever her name is her questions are lame. The perfect hosts would be Davyn and Da'vonne from The MTV Official Challenge podcast. They ask the hard questions, they will drill down and get the answers the fans want and need to hear. The preview did show Kyland poking at Asaf and Asaf blowing up. Thank you Kyland.
Looks as if there will be confrontation between Corey Lay and Big T and Melissa.
Michele storms off the stage. Please, girl by now you should be immune to all sorts of criticism from Twitter whats a few zingers thrown at a reunion show?
Hopefully, there will be lots more.
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Post by beerbelly on Feb 25, 2024 23:32:12 GMT
I agree with you about Em. He gave us nothing so, who is he except a Fboy? Now he's a richer Fboy. Boo. I also don't need to see Colleen either, I did not like her confessionals. I think you have to give what the producers are asking, but also be authentic about it. Nurys had that in spades. So happy to hear that she and Horatio are still together!!!
I'm disappointed in Olivia this season. I think that Nurys is right that Olivia was making more of a thing between her and Horatio so she could backstab him. He's a good guy and quiet, so Olivia should know he's not going to seek her out.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 26, 2024 1:07:41 GMT
I agree with you about Em. He gave us nothing so, who is he except a Fboy? Now he's a richer Fboy. Boo. I also don't need to see Colleen either, I did not like her confessionals. I think you have to give what the producers are asking, but also be authentic about it. Nurys had that in spades. So happy to hear that she and Horatio are still together!!! I'm disappointed in Olivia this season. I think that Nurys is right that Olivia was making more of a thing between her and Horatio so she could backstab him. He's a good guy and quiet, so Olivia should know he's not going to seek her out. Em's interview with Devyn & Da'vonne on the Official Podcast was so painful to listen to and the conversational pauses were so awkward I don't get how he can charm all of these women when he can't do a simple interview about his time on the Challenge and his win.
I have changed my mind about people listening to interviews and the guy gives nothing. I can't even "hate" the guy. His slams on the show of Nurys and on X are just bad. I would not care if he was not cast on season 40.
As for Olivia ... I just don't know. She was so refreshing on the previous season and both Olivia and Horacio fell so flat this season. Horacio's saving grace was his relationship with Nurys. Lets's face it Nurys carried season 39.
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Post by beerbelly on Feb 26, 2024 11:48:10 GMT
Exactly! She was refreshing. And I get a kick out of these Love Island people because that show is so silly. Horacio really doesn't have much of a personality other than he competes. Nurys really did carry the season. What she did was really outstanding which makes Em's win so infuriating. It would have been great if one of the prerequisites were that you had to survive an elimination to get the big prize.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 26, 2024 16:59:04 GMT
Exactly! She was refreshing. And I get a kick out of these Love Island people because that show is so silly. Horacio really doesn't have much of a personality other than he competes. Nurys really did carry the season. What she did was really outstanding which makes Em's win so infuriating. It would have been great if one of the prerequisites were that you had to survive an elimination to get the big prize. Keeping out of elimination is a strategy I don't mind, that's how both Bananas and CT have done it and won their seasons. It's more of how it was done.
I do think it is the format of the season. Production constantly tweaks it and on paper I am sure it looks good but it does not translate well in real life. This season would have been so much better with the Hopper and the secret eliminations for both male and female. The constant change is stressful for the competitors but exciting for the viewers.
It is funny how at the beginning the core alliance went after Ravyn for talking to the the Brits, but it was OK for Michele to co-mingle with Ciarran. Double Standard much. But then it flipped on to Nurys. Nurys does understand the game and can focus on that. I wonder what would have happened if just ONE TIME Jay saved Horacio as Nurys asked. I could see Nurys thanking him and staying loyal to the US Alliance but Jay forced her out. You can't demand constant loyalty without a little give and take especially when Jay was saving James for Moriah. Like Moriah would have ever done anything about it if Jay decided to throw James into the arena. Did Moriah ever have any power in the house? Not likely.
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Post by aaron2005 on Feb 26, 2024 18:23:12 GMT
A reunion sneak peak was posted today. While Horacio isn't at the reunion, he'll still be apart of it via video chat. The sneak peak shows him and Nurys talking about their relationship. which leads to an argument between Olivia and Nurys.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 26, 2024 19:50:23 GMT
A reunion sneak peak was posted today. While Horacio isn't at the reunion, he'll still be apart of it via video chat. The sneak peak shows him and Nurys talking about their relationship. which leads to an argument between Olivia and Nurys. Where .. post the link please.
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Post by aaron2005 on Feb 27, 2024 0:29:12 GMT
A reunion sneak peak was posted today. While Horacio isn't at the reunion, he'll still be apart of it via video chat. The sneak peak shows him and Nurys talking about their relationship. which leads to an argument between Olivia and Nurys. Where .. post the link please. It's on the challenge instagram page http://instagram.com/p/C30aywksTWv
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 27, 2024 1:01:39 GMT
That's why I couldn't find it on YouTube.
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Post by beerbelly on Feb 27, 2024 11:57:07 GMT
Thanks for posting. I love Nurys makeup. She looks stunning.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 27, 2024 18:25:41 GMT
Thanks for posting. I love Nurys makeup. She looks stunning. I was on her Instagram last night and it looks as if Nurys does a lot print modeling for catalogs and such. Without the super glam makeup she has a very nice fresh girl next door look. I almost didn't recognize her in some of the shoots.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 29, 2024 4:30:05 GMT
Season 39 Episode 20 - Reunion, Part 1 - February 28, 2024
The reunion was a chance to get clarity on what happened, how are some relationships, how are things now and going forward.
It is one chaotic mess.
It is a shame it could have been so much better.
1. Asaf is still and ass shouting out insults to the champs section. Starting twitter wars with various Challengers.
2. I still think Corey is an ass for how he used Big T and Melissa ... he needs to stop talking to them on Twitter as it does comes across as if he is constantly attacking them.
3. Does anyone understand what the heck is between Olivia and Nurys, I am still confused.
4. Smartest think said? Horacio staying out of the Nurys and Olivia relationship.
5. Colleen vs Michele ... over the word desparate???
The host is hopping all over the place it is so annoying it would be better if this was a linear conversation based on the events in the Challenge.
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Post by Bearcata on Feb 29, 2024 14:49:33 GMT
Reunion Part 1 Summary from EW - Entertainment Weekly ew.com/the-challenge-battle-for-a-new-champion-reunion-part-1-cara-maria-tori-fight-war-of-the-worlds-2-8601354This is a very good summary of the main points of what happened in the reunion. 1. Corey - it looks bad because he keeps getting into Tweeter wars with Big T and Melissa. It's a bad look when this huge dude keeps attacking two smaller women. He needs to handle in a different way. 2. Corey - falling off the balance beam. That beam was way shorter than the one used in the final he would have fallen off half way otherwise. Too bad he didn't hit his head on the floor and get some common sense knocked into his head. 3. Corey - mentioned that he only talked 4 times to Big T in the house while they were there. 4. Asaf keeps trying to make himself relevant by shouting out insults to the Challenge Champs - dude would get murdered in a regular season. I don't get why some of these male competitors are so puffed up when they have accomplished NOTHING in the game. 5. Aneesa was never in the game but she caused problems with Nurys and Olivia. Luv'ed what Cara said about Aneesa. The type of behavior Aneesa exhibits is so two faced and just nasty.
6. Luv'ed, luv'ed, luv'ed that Nury called out Emanuel cheating on his Sodoku puzzle. Wonder what difference that would have made in the final? I am surprised that they all used the same Sodoku puzzle in the final and I know producers were telling finalists not to cheat. In the eliminations Horacio and Kyland had different puzzles, so why didn't they do that in the final. They could have had a test team try multiple puzzles or put up blinders or something.
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Post by holly on Mar 1, 2024 1:54:40 GMT
Asaf - so desperate to be relevant. It's so obvious that he's trying to start crap so that maybe he'll be asked back. He's such a non-factor.
Corey - also desperate to be relevant. He seems very two-faced.
Aneesa's gonna Aneesa. Can't stand her.
Agree with pretty much everything you said.
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Post by Bearcata on Mar 2, 2024 1:29:43 GMT
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Post by Bearcata on Mar 5, 2024 9:19:57 GMT
I watched Part 2 of the final again. This time I had a copy of the Sodoku puzzle. In previous eliminations the players had different Sodoku puzzles, for the finale the players had the same Sodoku puzzle.
Production did some cagey editing when they supposedly took shots of Emanuel. The puzzle was not the same. I think they edited Horacio's body in and the puzzle he was working on.
There were two to three shots of the puzzle Emanuel was working on. He was so off on the answers it was not funny. Makes me really doubt his comment about doing Sodoku for the first time and it was "so easy". I absolutely believe he cheated off Colleen's board.
This puzzle took a good 20 plus minutes to do.
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Post by Amy Lee on Mar 5, 2024 12:47:27 GMT
I don't know how to play Sudoku, and I don't think I want to learn at this juncture. Lol
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Post by Bearcata on Mar 5, 2024 16:54:11 GMT
Colleen was the first person to correctly complete the Sodoku, I noticed she did not sweep off the tiles after she finished the puzzle. That was a major mistake as others took advantage and their eyes wandered over to look. It is not that easy a puzzle and took between 20 to 30 minutes to complete that would be a total game changer. Colleen could have potentially placed second or even won the final.
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Post by Bearcata on Mar 6, 2024 18:29:46 GMT
I recreated the Sodoku puzzle used in the final. In the eliminations each player had a different puzzle. Production really needs to put up walls around the puzzles so no one cheats. It took me about 30 minutes to do. It was not an easy puzzle. To be honest in two squares there are two solutions that both work.
I am also rewatching the reunion. At one point in the very beginning Nurys says that Emanuel cheated and that he copied off Colleens puzzle. Colleen made a HUGE MISTAKE by not clearing her Sodoku puzzle once she was finished. Emanuel does say we all looked at Colleen's puzzle.
I watched that portion of the final multiple times. The editing was interesting as they puzzle was completely different and it looked as if maybe it was Horacio's body. When it was Emanuel (thank you for identifying tattoos) if was making so many mistakes it was ridiculous. Sodoku is a hard puzzle even easy ones if you don't know the rules and teach yourself the scanning techniques.
Production really needs to work on this cheating element as well as the helping in eliminations to make it a cleaner game.
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Post by Bearcata on Mar 6, 2024 23:45:07 GMT
Looking forward too the Reunion Part 2 and finally the end of season 39.
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Post by Bearcata on Mar 7, 2024 7:56:43 GMT
Part 2 is total wack a mole.
Tori was poking at Cara through out the reunion ... it was on purpose.
Some total reversals.
Editing all over the place.
Make it make sense.
Corey needs to shut up after he says something but he has to go back and poke and poke and poke.
Jay cheated on his girlfriend on the bus with Olivia. Jay said it never happened at least 4 to 5 people said it did and Jay is snarling at them (girls).
Why does everyone in this house blame alcohol for all the hookups.
Emanuel looked pretty sober when he went into the bathroom with Berna. Interesting noises. That is just sick.
Berna (taped segment) stated what a fake person Colleen was.
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Post by Bearcata on Mar 7, 2024 9:27:31 GMT
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Post by beerbelly on Mar 7, 2024 11:42:32 GMT
Yeah, I can't imagine they drink too much since they are always working out and are all super fit.
1. Darrell thinks Asaf is "thirsty and corny." > ITA!
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Post by Amy Lee on Mar 9, 2024 15:23:16 GMT
I do not care for their petty Twitter beefs. They need to learn to log off.
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Post by holly on Mar 9, 2024 15:46:19 GMT
Bananas heart wasn't broken because Moriah "cheated" on him (even though they weren't in a relationship) It is totally his pride that was hurt, not his ankle. And he's such a hypocrite. He was verrrry friendly with Corinne (how much? Not exactly sure) & tried to appeal to Anfisa, but she shot him down at every turn, which was hilarious. He's probably not used to that If she's ever asked back, it will be just so Bananas can get his revenge. Her personality is too bland for this show. I'm not even sure if she's a decent competitor because of the (awful) format of this season. She does have a phenomenal body, I'll give her that. I'd kill for abs, butt & legs like hers. She's clearly worked hard for it & is fit. I hate how she wears almost nothing (except at the reunion, WTH was that hideous tinfoil dress?), but if I was young & looked that good, I might do the same. I loved Darrell calling Asaf thirsty & corny. It was too funny! And true. Tori made an ass of herself (to me) by trying to get digs on Cara almost every time Cara opened her mouth. Tori is the one that wants to be on a Rivals season with CM, not the other way around. Also, Laurel has ZERO room to talk about anyone about bickering on a show when she has been non-stop on Twitter & Instagram going after Nicole at every turn. I wouldn't even know about this except there's a mega-thread on Reddit about it in the Challenge forum. Laurel needs to just move on. IDK why she's so obsessed with supposedly not being obsessed with Nicole. Well, actually, I'm pretty sure it's because Nicole has cheated on her, they break up, get back together...lather, rinse, repeat. She knows Nicole is a "player" & yet Laurel can't seem to stay away from her. She just needs to quit paying attention to her, block her on SM (because Nicole sure won't, she loves the attention too much). But Laurel always has to "win", & I think there's some strange disconnect with her that cannot realize or accept that she's never going to "win" with Nicole. Just the fact that she apparently cyberstalks Nicole already makes Laurel the loser (even though Nicole is a loser in quite a few ways). And Jay still sucks.
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Post by Amy Lee on Mar 9, 2024 23:48:16 GMT
I think Moriah is a sweet person to even acknowledge and apologize to someone she wasn't even dating. Bananas can go kick rocks.
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Post by Bearcata on Mar 10, 2024 2:05:40 GMT
The MTV Official Challenge Podcast Part 1 with Ed Eason - fun Part 2 with Laurel Stucky - very good - the argument with Calum went on forever, Laurel also got into it with him before the filming for the reunion started in the hotel.
This was the best interview I have ever heard from Laurel. Very revealing about how she works and thinks and that goes to the relationship she has with Michele. Michele annoys her. Michele is also constantly trying to be Laurel's friend and that just annoys her even more. Both Moriah and Melissa became close with Laurel and they hung out a lot at the reunion. Michele was trying to use Moriah as an intermediary between herself and Laurel and Laurel was getting more and more annoyed. I also think Nicole's behavior annoys Laurel also so in her mind Michele & Nicole are getting intertwined and that is not a good thing and that is why we hear Laurel call Michele Nicole.
It is also obvious that Laurel and Cara Maria have mended some of their friendship. There was a bit of a shout out to the upcoming All Stars 4.
Challenge 39 Podcast hosts: Devyn & Da'vone
Both the ladies are fun, and professional and have strong opinions and dig deep and get answers that really the fans want to hear. They get explanations but they do it in such a manner that it is not judgemental and they let the other person talk. Some on the interviews are just hard, for instance Berna who talks but it can be stream of conscious talk and goes all over the place. Emanuel I think didn't really want to reveal much and it is annoying. I mean that is what you signed up for.
PS: they dropped the Challenge 40 cast list - supposedly they left for Vietnam today and cast is tweeting about it.
The list has already changed. Huge cast of 40 players. Format eras of the Challenge with Goats and Contenders. Some of the season 39 cast will be on the show. Many MTV folks you haven't seen in years will also be on.
I already started a thread for Challenge 40.
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