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Post by stargazer161 on Sept 30, 2021 17:39:10 GMT
I agree with whoever said on the show that they all act phony when around Erika but talk behind her back. Shameless. I too am sick of it all being about Erika...like give me a break. Sutton is growing on me...shocking isn't it? She is the voice of reason this time around, IMO.
Not sure if this was brought up but Lisa Vanderpump outed Kyle for gossiping about Erika and Tom's money problems a while back at Andy Cohen's baby shower. Anyone else surprised? Not me...Kyle loves stirring the pot.
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Post by stargazer161 on Sept 30, 2021 17:39:50 GMT
I forgot to add....I hope this is Erika's and Lisa R.'s last season. They need to switch up the cast, for sure.
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Post by acookertv on Sept 30, 2021 18:00:19 GMT
Problem is, Vanderpump loves to stir the pot too. Kyle said last night that Vanderpump's claims are flat out untrue and that Lisa was not even at the baby shower.
Isn't being kind to a person's face and gossiping behind her back a cornerstone of the Housewives?
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Post by stargazer161 on Sept 30, 2021 18:01:14 GMT
^True that...they are all shady snakes, lol
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 30, 2021 18:17:37 GMT
I agree with whoever said on the show that they all act phony when around Erika but talk behind her back. Shameless. I too am sick of it all being about Erika...like give me a break. Sutton is growing on me...shocking isn't it? She is the voice of reason this time around, IMO. Not sure if this was brought up but Lisa Vanderpump outed Kyle for gossiping about Erika and Tom's money problems a while back at Andy Cohen's baby shower. Anyone else surprised? Not me...Kyle loves stirring the pot .Lvp wasn't at the shower, it was Camille that told her. When LVP was asked that's what she told them. Kyle is asking questions, then telling us Erika is in tears alone, bullsh**. Backstabbing Kyle. I love Sutton, their faces when Erika talked about snow..
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Post by stargazer161 on Sept 30, 2021 18:20:11 GMT
Oooh Lol...I knew it was either her or Camille. I saw it on Instagram the other day.
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Post by amber on Sept 30, 2021 19:03:25 GMT
I agree with whoever said on the show that they all act phony when around Erika but talk behind her back. Shameless. I too am sick of it all being about Erika...like give me a break. Sutton is growing on me...shocking isn't it? She is the voice of reason this time around, IMO. Not sure if this was brought up but Lisa Vanderpump outed Kyle for gossiping about Erika and Tom's money problems a while back at Andy Cohen's baby shower. Anyone else surprised? Not me...Kyle loves stirring the pot .Lvp wasn't at the shower, it was Camille that told her. When LVP was asked that's what she told them. Kyle is asking questions, then telling us Erika is in tears alone, bullsh**. Backstabbing Kyle. I love Sutton, their faces when Erika talked about snow.. Kyle successful pulled off her version of bullsh** and even had her lie about LVP repeated on this thread! LOL
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 30, 2021 19:45:53 GMT
Do you mean Crystal? I totally agree. I think she came onto the show having carefully reviewed the Housewives Handbook. She came on, shared a little about her life, got to know everyone, and found ways to participate. She did overreact to Sutton ... but she was also willing to admit she was wrong, and did it on camera with very good timing that added to the movement forward and truly helped Sutton out. As funny as Kathy is, what impresses me the most about her is the ways she supports the other women. When she stayed back to talk to Sutton last night after the kum ba ya moment that wasn't kum ba ya, she showed she truly cared about how she was feeling. But she also didn't take sides - she didn't jump in suggesting Erica should have done things differently to make Sutton feel better. She listened and supported without stirring anything up. Who would have thought - all these years these women have been working so hard to stir it up to be good on the show, and she's great doing the opposite! OMG. I'm cracking up Thank goodness Big Brother is over!!!
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 30, 2021 19:48:25 GMT
I'm kinda here for the lying and backstabbing? No? Not you guys?
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Post by stargazer161 on Sept 30, 2021 21:16:34 GMT
Saw this on Instagram just now, lol!
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Post by acookertv on Sept 30, 2021 21:31:53 GMT
I thought that was a tone deaf question to start the game. I also think it's total BS that not a single one of them ever shoplifted anything as a teenager.
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 30, 2021 22:17:47 GMT
I thought that was a tone deaf question to start the game. I also think it's total BS that not a single one of them ever shoplifted anything as a teenager. Totally. I couldn't believe after all this fun they were having and apologies that were made, Garcelle had to go in on it AGAIN. It's possible that it wasn't the first question and Bravo had it edited that way but none the less...the question was off no matter what order it was delivered. I was semi hoping that Erika would have been the first to answer saying "well heck yes...I stole a candy bar when I was 12" Like who didn't? I do think Dorit said "I think I must have as a teenager?"
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Post by acookertv on Sept 30, 2021 23:16:29 GMT
I expected Erica to do the same thing Juls! Guess that illustrates exactly what she said right before about how if she laughs she’s insensitive and if she’s solemn she’s depressing.
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Post by amber on Oct 1, 2021 0:03:14 GMT
This last episode's stand-out moments... Erika referring to Tom as the man who has done so much for everyone. Erika admitting to establishing fake peace with Sutton.
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Post by prism on Oct 1, 2021 0:45:50 GMT
This last episode's stand-out moments... Erika referring to Tom as the man who has done so much for everyone. Erika admitting to establishing fake peace with Sutton. Once again Erika proves she’s a bullying thug. Walking to the boat, faking that make-nice with Sutton, knowing Sutton is emotionally vulnerable and in pain with a seriously bruised ankle…. that looks downright sociopathic - given that Erika almost immediately is shown saying “No” she still hates Sutton and was pretending to be nice just for the fun of hurting Sutton. Erika is grotesque and belligerent; gaslighting Sutton is stalker-ish and downright creepy. I think she enjoys having spent money that should have gone to Tom’s victims. Because that’s who she is.
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Post by amber on Oct 1, 2021 1:21:48 GMT
Yep! How dare victims question the great Tom Giardi and his gold digger wife!
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Post by acookertv on Oct 1, 2021 2:45:11 GMT
Oh Prism, don’t worry … Sutton could not hear Erica’s interview comments while they were on the vote!
Let me make sure I understand this … Erica was wrong to be nice but not extremely nice to Sutton because Sutton was suffering with a bruised ankle. But Sutton was totally right to work to get all the women to turn against Erica while Erica was seeing the world around her crumble. So bruised ankle is worse that bankruptcy and divorce. Got it. Interesting scale there!
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Post by Punkin on Oct 1, 2021 3:32:21 GMT
Some of us clearly see the scales tipped in favor of the grifter and his snarling accomplice and not in favor of the victims of the grifters. All depends on your viewpoint and sensitivities, I guess.
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 1, 2021 4:18:42 GMT
This last episode's stand-out moments... Erika referring to Tom as the man who has done so much for everyone. Erika admitting to establishing fake peace with Sutton. He may have at one time, but not lately. It's expensive to be Erika.. I just hope her next victim has watched this show. Sutton isn't 5, she doesn't need someone to* pretend * to be nice, how ridiculous is that. After all she offered Erika..smh. I'm hate watching parts of this season, which is fine, I've done that with NJ. But just like NJ, I have my stand outs, Sutton, Gabrielle and to some extent , Kathy..now ,I have to go turn my fan on I use one to sleep, just like her..
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 1, 2021 4:44:07 GMT
Some of us clearly see the scales tipped in favor of the grifter and his snarling accomplice and not in favor of the victims of the grifters. All depends on your viewpoint and sensitivities, I guess. No. That's really not the case at all. I've said many times that I have never liked Tom. But I don't see the need to drill that point in everyday. I do however like Erika...and I'm not yet convinced that she had anything to do with it. And even if she did and I'm like "yay go Erika!" ....I still have every right to my opinion without being judged on FORT for it. So please.... let's keep our opinions on the housewives....not each other
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Post by acookertv on Oct 1, 2021 10:55:28 GMT
This last episode's stand-out moments... Erika referring to Tom as the man who has done so much for everyone. Erika admitting to establishing fake peace with Sutton. He may have at one time, but not lately. It's expensive to be Erika.. I just hope her next victim has watched this show. Sutton isn't 5, she doesn't need someone to* pretend * to be nice, how ridiculous is that. After all she offered Erika..smh. I'm hate watching parts of this season, which is fine, I've done that with NJ. But just like NJ, I have my stand outs, Sutton, Gabrielle and to some extent , Kathy..now ,I have to go turn my fan on I use one to sleep, just like her.. I have to say that comment from Erica didn't surprise me at all, because her relationship with Tom is much more complex than our impressions of him. In a similar nature, I've observed that since all the news came out about Matt Lauer, there are a few of his former co-hosts (Katie Couric, Meredith Vierra) who have been very careful in their comments about that story. It's clear that they know how horrific the accusations against him are and are concerned about them. BUT, they also clearly had close friendships with him and experienced good things about him too. Life is messy and people are rarely entirely good or entirely bad. I've seen the same thing before in a mother whose child is sent away to prison for horrific crimes. The mother can recognize her child did something terrible and must be held accountable for it ... but still goes to visit him in prison on a regular basis. It's easy as pie to be an outsider looking in and say based on the accusations Tom is a horrible person. But Erica isn't an outsider. She's looking at that horrible side combined with things like recognizing he was always very good to her son, and various other good things he brought to her life. So yes, it isn't a surprise at all that Erica doesn't respond to him in the same way outsiders reading articles do. Quite honestly, if she did respond in the same way, I'd consider it all an act.
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Post by prism on Oct 1, 2021 11:59:09 GMT
This last episode's stand-out moments... Erika referring to Tom as the man who has done so much for everyone. Erika admitting to establishing fake peace with Sutton. He may have at one time, but not lately. It's expensive to be Erika.. I just hope her next victim has watched this show. Sutton isn't 5, she doesn't need someone to* pretend * to be nice, how ridiculous is that. After all she offered Erika..smh. I'm hate watching parts of this season, which is fine, I've done that with NJ. But just like NJ, I have my stand outs, Sutton, Gabrielle and to some extent , Kathy..now ,I have to go turn my fan on I use one to sleep, just like her.. Not only expensive but she’s the “strongest substance on earth.” Yah, we get it. Stone cold. Bleating that Tom’s friends and relatives dumped him, but the one person who could care for him in his “infirmity” would be…. yup…. herself, the wife, the one closest to him, the one who promised in sickness and in health. She showed what she is when she dumped him at work without so much as a “done with ya.” She attacks Sutton b/c although Sutton is smart with good instincts and strong opinions, she doesn’t have experience defending herself against street rats. Erika drew in her fangs for a moment, just for the pleasure of pounding Sutton. Oh yes on the fan. I have a travel fan, use it for soccer games in the 100 degree heat too.
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 1, 2021 22:00:39 GMT
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Post by acookertv on Oct 2, 2021 0:11:48 GMT
As many of the women have said, it’s not the first time Erica has reacted like that. Sutton knew what she was getting into when she joined the show. She knew what she was getting in to when she pulled the women together to try to get them to turn their backs on Erica. If she was that upset, maybe being on a show like this isn’t for her. Honestly, I think she can handle it just fine and she’s very effectively milking how hurt she is it raise her profile as a housewife.
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 2, 2021 0:42:04 GMT
'I wasn’t scared, like, scared for my life,' she said. 'I just didn’t like the behavior.'
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Post by amber on Oct 2, 2021 1:02:02 GMT
As many of the women have said, it’s not the first time Erica has reacted like that. Sutton knew what she was getting into when she joined the show. She knew what she was getting in to when she pulled the women together to try to get them to turn their backs on Erica. If she was that upset, maybe being on a show like this isn’t for her. Honestly, I think she can handle it just fine and she’s very effectively milking how hurt she is it raise her profile as a housewife. I agree, but not quite the same way. If Erika doesn't want show fans and fellow cast members showing disappointment in her, she could put an end to it by stop making a spectacle of herself by acting like such a selfish narcissist. Hubby Tom figured out how to keep a low profile. Live and learn, Erika!
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Post by acookertv on Oct 2, 2021 2:40:47 GMT
Housewives don’t seek low profiles. It’s the very definition of the job description.
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Post by amber on Oct 2, 2021 6:17:06 GMT
I'm talking about Erika acting like a victim and defending Tom stealing from clients. If she isn't already, she's well on her way to becoming the most hated Housewife ever!
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Post by newsboi on Oct 2, 2021 12:07:11 GMT
Nope, Vicki G. will always and forever hold that title.
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Post by amber on Oct 2, 2021 15:49:17 GMT
Nope, Vicki G. will always and forever hold that title. Maybe, but you know what, newsboi? In the overall scheme of things, Vicki's a lightweight when compared to former NY Housewife Jill Zarin. Not only did she spike NY Housewives, she secretly recorded Andy Cohen when he interviewed her and when no one respectable was doing it, discovered that the vast majority of her twitter fan base were purchased bots. Thing is, we're Housewives fans so we know (or should know) Vicki Gunvalson and Jill Zarin. Erika is different because of Tom being especially newsworthy. Erika transcends Bravo. She's covered by NBC and all the other America broadcast networks. She's not just talked about by junky tabloids. She's covered by respectable print media and serious monied digital media, too!
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