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Post by JustJuls on Oct 13, 2021 20:00:00 GMT
How does Andy having to buy tickets mean Erica didn't get paid to do the show? Perhaps more importantly, how is the production getting around the union to not pay a performer in the show? Just because you find it on the internet does not mean it's true Try finding it on the internet
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 13, 2021 20:09:11 GMT
Andy might have been singing her praises back then (Chicago) BUT he sure isn't now. Reunion will not disappoint as Andy, not worried ONE BIT that Erika will exclaim that she HATES him, she will not show her teeth like a rabid dog and THREATEN him nor will she call him the F word when he QUESTIONS her. Bring it on, Andy!!!!!!!
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 13, 2021 20:15:45 GMT
I'm so confused.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 13, 2021 20:28:11 GMT
Me too. Andy has been talking about how much Erika brought it to the reunion and answered everything she was able to. Bravo is also filming the next season sooner than normal because of Erika. I'm not sure how those are the actions of someone whose turned on her.
I'm starting to think there's more projection going on around here than there was in my elementary school classes when we had substitute teachers!
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 13, 2021 22:03:36 GMT
Andy might have been singing her praises back then (Chicago) BUT he sure isn't now. Reunion will not disappoint as Andy, not worried ONE BIT that Erika will exclaim that she HATES him, she will not show her teeth like a rabid dog and THREATEN him nor will she call him the F word when he QUESTIONS her. Bring it on, Andy!!!!!!! Yes, Bring it. I'm betting Erika will never be seen on Broadway again, wanna bet..
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Post by amber on Oct 13, 2021 23:13:02 GMT
Everything Andy says only backs up that people were there FOR Erika From the same article: “We went to go see Erika Jayne in Chicago,” Cohen said on his SiriusXM show. “That show has been open for 20-plus years, she’s packing them in dude. The place was full and they were there for her. I was so proud of her. And she’s playing Roxie which is one of the two leads.” In between his digs to the producers of Chicago, he continued to emphasize that Jayne “was great” and “her dancing was great” as well. JustJuls, Do you think for even a minute Andy would have publicly trashed the theater company had he enjoyed the show? We all know better than that! Andy panning the show wasn't about Bravo spending $100. He felt like he wasted his time and, do you honestly expect Andy to say, "Erika sucks!" Find Erika DWTS dances on Youtube to see her suck doing that, too. I didn't watch during the season because Erika wasn't a draw. Until I watch the 3 episodes I found on Youtube (the 4th doesn't exist, which is an indication that no one cared enough to record and upload), I hadn't a clue that Erika has NO NATURAL TALENT. We know damn well she spent ALL her spare time practicing, yet her performance is painful to watch. Anyway, the judges didn't like her and the fans didn't either for no one was voting to keep her in. All those PAID FOR TWIITER FOLLOWERS were a complete waste of money!
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Post by amber on Oct 13, 2021 23:23:32 GMT
Her reviews weren't that good, she's a pop singer( with all the help) , her voice was a bit thin for Broadway. We've seen Chicago several times and love it. One review on trip advisor said she was a dumpster fire.. Not everyone who has a job is great at that job. I brought up Chicago to refute the claim that the only jobs Erica can get is in a strip club. It's simply not true. You're right. Although Tom threw a legal suit against NBC to in order to get Erika the RHOBH's gig and she is paid to do that. She's done three to a few soap episodes and they paid her something. I think she also did an episode or two of scripted TV drama. And, of course, Dancing with the Stars. (Let's pretend that Tom didn't buy her that gig.) Add that to her time working strip clubs and that's a solid representation of Erika's professional entertainment resume!
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 14, 2021 1:13:27 GMT
Andy has been talking about how much Erika brought it to the reunion and answered everything she was able to. EXACTLY. Because Erika would never tell the viewing audience she HATES Andy like Erika did about Sutton. Instead she would answer Andy's questions. Because Erika would never THREATEN Andy to his face like she did to Sutton. Teeth clenched looking like a RABID DOG. Instead she would answer Andy's questions. Andy PAYS Erika, why why why would Erika step OUT OF LINE AT ALL when it comes to Andy? Erika has NO CHOICE but to allow the questioning from Andy. As she told the ladies she has no money. Andy and Bravo are an IMPORTANT source of income for her.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 14, 2021 1:20:33 GMT
Andy has been talking about how much Erika brought it to the reunion and answered everything she was able to. EXACTLY. Because Erika would never tell the viewing audience she HATES Andy like Erika did about Sutton. Instead she would answer Andy's questions. Because Erika would never THREATEN Andy to his face like she did to Sutton. Teeth clenched looking like a RABID DOG. Instead she would answer Andy's questions. Andy PAYS Erika, why why why would Erika step OUT OF LINE AT ALL when it comes to Andy? Erika has NO CHOICE but to allow the questioning from Andy. As she told the ladies she has no money. Andy and Bravo are an IMPORTANT source of income for her. Of course she had a choice. Lisa Vanderpump skipped a reunion and maintained a working relationship with Bravo. Jacqueline Laurita skipped a reunion and was brought back. Erica absolutely could have skipped the reunion and cited not being allowed to due to legal proceedings. But back to the topic that elicited the response - it was a claim that Andy had turned on Erika. Listing all the reasons you can imagine that Erika is nice to him does nothing to back up the claim I disagreed with that he’s turned on her.
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 14, 2021 1:37:54 GMT
FIRST of all, I never said Andy TURNED ON ERIKA. LISA and JACQUELINE were not SNARLED UP in a ENORMOUS legal situation that MOST of the world knows about. LISA and JACQUELINE's husband were not accused of EMBEZZLEMENT. LISA and JACQUELINE's husband's did not STEAL $2 million from Widows and Orphans. RATINGS!!!!!!
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Post by acookertv on Oct 14, 2021 1:49:28 GMT
I paraphrased. What you said was that Andy had been singing Erica’s praises but wasn’t any more. That being untrue aside, how is doing one thing and not doing it anymore different from turning on it? Where did I get it wrong?
ill paraphrase again- to acknowledge that Lisa and Jacqueline had less reasons and skipped and Erica had all those reasons and DIDNT skip says a lot that is positive about Erica. It also shows how petty and self centered Lisa truly is.
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 14, 2021 1:55:57 GMT
I paraphrased. What you said was that Andy had been singing Erica’s praises but wasn’t any more. That being untrue aside, how is doing one thing and not doing it anymore different from turning on it? Where did I get it wrong? ill paraphrase again- to acknowledge that Lisa and Jacqueline had less reasons and skipped and Erica had all those reasons and DIDNT skip says a lot that is positive about Erica. It also shows how petty and self centered Lisa truly is. SIMPLE.......$ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 14, 2021 4:46:15 GMT
I for one enjoyed every second of Reunion Part 1. Lots of good stuff there. I'll have to unpack it later
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Post by sweetmermaid1 on Oct 14, 2021 5:20:36 GMT
I paraphrased. What you said was that Andy had been singing Erica’s praises but wasn’t any more. That being untrue aside, how is doing one thing and not doing it anymore different from turning on it? Where did I get it wrong? ill paraphrase again- to acknowledge that Lisa and Jacqueline had less reasons and skipped and Erica had all those reasons and DIDNT skip says a lot that is positive about Erica. It also shows how petty and self centered Lisa truly is. I think Andy feels the same way about Erika as he does about Teresa. Not a fan but he knows where his bread is buttered. Lisa doesn't need any of her shows so her being a no show was not surprising.
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 14, 2021 5:26:38 GMT
. Gosh, Erika looks awful, her jowls, her makeup. Did she say alleged victims.? They are quite real, you dolt. Oh ,Tonya Harding called and wants her skating dress back... Kyles dress made her boobs squished. I didn't like her hair. I thought Garcelle looked nice, Doritos make up was very nice, but she opens her mouth, and is so blah. Does anybody truly listen to her.. Rinna had a store that was a business, why can't Sutton?.. Of course Rinna had to close hers. Garcelle don't trust fake Rinna, she had nothing this season, she had to come for you on the tiniest of things. She actually looked pissed she was on the other couch.lol Suttons make up was nice, strange faces from Erika every time Sutton spoke..( EGs southern accent is back y'all ) ..I'm glad Sutton's dating, but when Erika jumped in to ask her, who are YOU dating I'd of told her to mind her own business. After all, Erika wants a guy with a big penis, keeping it classy EJ. Crystal is okay, a little dull.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 14, 2021 10:56:33 GMT
I think they all looked terrible for BH housewives. None of them had a look that made me say wow. I admit that on the couple of occasions post-quarantine that I've had to get dressed up to go out, it's been hard for me to get back in the swing and figure out what level of dress up is appropriate. I wonder if they suffered from the same thing. Right now, Erica HAS to say alleged. It's one of the things that her lawyers require her to say. Not inserting that word could be used against her or Tom as an admission of guilt. That should be taken 100% as legalese and not an expression of her feelings towards the whole thing. The whole thing between Rinna and Garcelle annoyed me. Rinna was WAY too performative in the whole thing, especially when she went to the other couch. Is it just me or does it seem like Rinna moves to the other couch in a lot of reunions? For Garcelle's part, I think she was holding back too much which was frustrating. I wish she'd said more to explain exactly why Rinna is untrustworthy - lord knows there are a lot of reasons. She's got good reasons to not want to make nice with Rinna, but was dragging it out too much. She'd also be wise to make nice with a few of her frienemies of she's going to run out of reasons to be on the show. Take it from Tamra Judge. I paraphrased. What you said was that Andy had been singing Erica’s praises but wasn’t any more. That being untrue aside, how is doing one thing and not doing it anymore different from turning on it? Where did I get it wrong? ill paraphrase again- to acknowledge that Lisa and Jacqueline had less reasons and skipped and Erica had all those reasons and DIDNT skip says a lot that is positive about Erica. It also shows how petty and self centered Lisa truly is. I think Andy feels the same way about Erika as he does about Teresa. Not a fan but he knows where his bread is buttered. Lisa doesn't need any of her shows so her being a no show was not surprising. I think that when it comes to the housewives, Andy plays it like a politician being expressive but neutral enough in what he says that all viewers can project their own feelings on him and believe he thinks like they do. He's quite masterful of it, but rarely says anything that could truly be used against him or confirm how he really feels. With regards to Lisa, I disagree. I think she recognizes that she needs Bravo a great deal which is one of the reasons they've clung to VPR even though it's changed so much. Since she came on Bravo the clientele of her restaurants changed quite a bit. I was listening recently to an interview with a couple of the VPR stars where they were talking about how before the show quite a few big name celebrities would come in. As Lisa became more popular on Bravo they became less A-list destinations but became must go places for tourists as well as celebrities who are fans of the show. I think Lisa is smart enough to know it would be hard to return to what it used to be. So I think she knows she needs to stay on Bravo to keep her restaurants tourist locations.
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Post by stargazer161 on Oct 14, 2021 17:56:37 GMT
I really hope they can Lisa....cannot stand her fake personality.
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 14, 2021 19:41:30 GMT
Kyle's fireplace Sutton really could have burned the house down!!
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Post by acookertv on Oct 14, 2021 19:43:21 GMT
I'd be scared to rent anything to Sutton!
I also loved that they modelled the set after Kathy's back yard ... and that Kathy didn't even realize it!
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 14, 2021 19:55:59 GMT
I agree they all looked terrible. I think I noted that after I watched the preview. I don't know what was going on but the dress choices, hair and makeup was totally off for all of them except Crystal, imo. Stress, maybe?
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 14, 2021 20:12:21 GMT
I really hope they can Lisa....cannot stand her fake personality. She doesn't believe in personal space.When she got up, Dorit said she wants to show off her outfit. I can't think why.
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 15, 2021 1:00:14 GMT
I can't believe this is going to drag on for 3 more weeks They really should have done it 4 nights in a row.
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 15, 2021 2:25:49 GMT
I just watched now. Those couches (to me) appeared so small for 4 ladies to sit comfortably. The couch with Kyle, Garcelle and Sutton was perfect for 3 (prior to Kathy's arrival). Why make them sit elbow to elbow for filming of such a lengthy reunion? Sutton almost burning Kyle's house down.......OMGOSH. Rinna looks the worst. Crystal looks the best. EJ appears to be using a different glam squad or none at all. The front of Kyle's dress is horrid. I do like her hair style. Rinna (and Dorit) need to stop SCREAMING all the freaking time. Screaming gets you no where when you are having adult conversations about both positive and negative incidents. That whole Dorit and Rinna yelling at Garcelle was ridiculous. I love how calm Garcelle remained. Interesting that Dorit accused Garcelle of being a 'bully'..... well Dorit certainly was acting like one last night. Dorit telling Crystal that Rinna only went over to Garcelle because she was "showing off" her dress......probably true. EJ at the end.......so we know Tom was cheating so was EJ?
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 15, 2021 4:33:20 GMT
I just watched now. Those couches (to me) appeared so small for 4 ladies to sit comfortably. The couch with Kyle, Garcelle and Sutton was perfect for 3 (prior to Kathy's arrival). Why make them sit elbow to elbow for filming of such a lengthy reunion? Sutton almost burning Kyle's house down.......OMGOSH. Rinna looks the worst. Crystal looks the best. EJ appears to be using a different glam squad or none at all. The front of Kyle's dress is horrid. I do like her hair style. Rinna (and Dorit) need to stop SCREAMING all the freaking time. Screaming gets you no where when you are having adult conversations about both positive and negative incidents. That whole Dorit and Rinna yelling at Garcelle was ridiculous. I love how calm Garcelle remained. Interesting that Dorit accused Garcelle of being a 'bully'..... well Dorit certainly was acting like one last night. Dorit telling Crystal that Rinna only went over to Garcelle because she was "showing off" her dress......probably true. EJ at the end.......so we know Tom was cheating so was EJ? I doubt she would say, if she did cheat. He was seen with one woman, we only have her word it was more than that. I think they could wrap this up in two episodes, not 4!
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Post by amber on Oct 15, 2021 5:13:14 GMT
I paraphrased. What you said was that Andy had been singing Erica’s praises but wasn’t any more. That being untrue aside, how is doing one thing and not doing it anymore different from turning on it? Where did I get it wrong? ill paraphrase again- to acknowledge that Lisa and Jacqueline had less reasons and skipped and Erica had all those reasons and DIDNT skip says a lot that is positive about Erica. It also shows how petty and self centered Lisa truly is. I read production had asked Jacqueline not to attend that year's reunion. In respect to fan-favorite LVP, she had to put up with lying idiots, aka the Faux Force Five, organized efforts to run her out by concocting a lie about LVP to twist the actual storyline of Dorit adopting a dog from Vanderpump Dogs, then giving the dog away to someone else instead of returning the dog to Vanderpump dogs as contractually required. Unfortunately for Dorit, the person turned the dog over to gave the dog to a kill shelter. Fortunately for the dog, she had a Vanderpump Dogs chip so that they could rescue her again. Why did the Faux Force Five cast members relentlessly attack LVP with the phony storyline? Because they knew LVP had pitched and was in the process of being green-lit for another spin-off or two and, in particular, money-grubbing and jealous Lisa Rinna, instead of being happy for LVP's good fortune, became ringleader to take LVP down while they knew she was struggling with the death of her brother and mother. LVP skipped the reunion, and although she continued to film solo, she stopped filming with the cast entirely for the rest of the season. The Faux Force Five relished the possibility that Bravo would fire LVP, which didn't happen, and instead, LVP will be welcome to return to RHOBH at any time of her choosing. Other repercussions? LVP fans are picking off the Faux Force Five members one at a time. Teddi has been permanently canned. LVP fans, appalled by what Rinna did to Denise, were unsuccessful with the various petitions to having her removed from her RHOBH side gig; they were successful in Rinna's termination from her main gig, QVC (and strong indications Rinna is broke). By any account, it is reasonable to predict that Erika will be gone by season 13. Also, we are learning that numerous new additions are being pitched and considered for season 12 going forward. Who of the Faux Force Five is next to go? Dorit? Rinna? Kyle? (In addition to Crystal?)
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 15, 2021 5:20:18 GMT
I paraphrased. What you said was that Andy had been singing Erica’s praises but wasn’t any more. That being untrue aside, how is doing one thing and not doing it anymore different from turning on it? Where did I get it wrong? ill paraphrase again- to acknowledge that Lisa and Jacqueline had less reasons and skipped and Erica had all those reasons and DIDNT skip says a lot that is positive about Erica. It also shows how petty and self centered Lisa truly is. I read production had asked Jacqueline not to attend that year's reunion. In respect to fan-favorite LVP, she had to put up with lying idiots, aka the Faux Force Five, organized efforts to run her out by concocting a lie about LVP to twist the actual storyline of Dorit adopting a dog from Vanderpump Dogs, then giving the dog away to someone else instead of returning the dog to Vanderpump dogs as contractually required. Unfortunately for Dorit, the person turned the dog over to gave the dog to a kill shelter. Fortunately for the dog, she had a Vanderpump Dogs chip so that they could rescue her again. Why did the Faux Force Five cast members relentlessly attack LVP with the phony storyline? Because they knew LVP had pitched and was in the process of being green-lit for another spin-off or two and, in particular, money-grubbing and jealous Lisa Rinna, instead of being happy for LVP's good fortune, became ringleader to take LVP down while they knew she was struggling with the death of her brother and mother. LVP skipped the reunion, and although she continued to film solo, she stopped filming with the cast entirely for the rest of the season. The Faux Force Five relished the possibility that Bravo would fire LVP, which didn't happen, and instead, LVP will be welcome to return to RHOBH at any time of her choosing. Other repercussions? LVP fans are picking off the Faux Force Five members one at a time. Teddi has been permanently canned. LVP fans, appalled by what Rinna did to Denise, were unsuccessful with the various petitions to having her removed from her RHOBH side gig; they were successful in Rinna's termination from her main gig, QVC (and strong indications Rinna is broke). By any account, it is reasonable to predict that Erika will be gone by season 13. Also, we are learning that numerous new additions are being pitched and considered for season 12 going forward. Who of the Faux Force Five is next to go? Dorit? Rinna? Kyle? (In addition to Crystal?) LVP was still mourning her brother , remember Rinna sent cakes with pills on them.
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Post by amber on Oct 15, 2021 9:58:19 GMT
I read production had asked Jacqueline not to attend that year's reunion. In respect to fan-favorite LVP, she had to put up with lying idiots, aka the Faux Force Five, organized efforts to run her out by concocting a lie about LVP to twist the actual storyline of Dorit adopting a dog from Vanderpump Dogs, then giving the dog away to someone else instead of returning the dog to Vanderpump dogs as contractually required. Unfortunately for Dorit, the person turned the dog over to gave the dog to a kill shelter. Fortunately for the dog, she had a Vanderpump Dogs chip so that they could rescue her again. Why did the Faux Force Five cast members relentlessly attack LVP with the phony storyline? Because they knew LVP had pitched and was in the process of being green-lit for another spin-off or two and, in particular, money-grubbing and jealous Lisa Rinna, instead of being happy for LVP's good fortune, became ringleader to take LVP down while they knew she was struggling with the death of her brother and mother. LVP skipped the reunion, and although she continued to film solo, she stopped filming with the cast entirely for the rest of the season. The Faux Force Five relished the possibility that Bravo would fire LVP, which didn't happen, and instead, LVP will be welcome to return to RHOBH at any time of her choosing. Other repercussions? LVP fans are picking off the Faux Force Five members one at a time. Teddi has been permanently canned. LVP fans, appalled by what Rinna did to Denise, were unsuccessful with the various petitions to having her removed from her RHOBH side gig; they were successful in Rinna's termination from her main gig, QVC (and strong indications Rinna is broke). By any account, it is reasonable to predict that Erika will be gone by season 13. Also, we are learning that numerous new additions are being pitched and considered for season 12 going forward. Who of the Faux Force Five is next to go? Dorit? Rinna? Kyle? (In addition to Crystal?) LVP was still mourning her brother , remember Rinna sent cakes with pills on them. It was about LVP's mother, and much more, even all about her brother committing suicide by overdose. This, and all her other BS, is why QVC fired Rinna. And she still hasn't learned.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 15, 2021 10:52:23 GMT
I just watched now. Those couches (to me) appeared so small for 4 ladies to sit comfortably. The couch with Kyle, Garcelle and Sutton was perfect for 3 (prior to Kathy's arrival). Why make them sit elbow to elbow for filming of such a lengthy reunion? Sutton almost burning Kyle's house down.......OMGOSH. Rinna looks the worst. Crystal looks the best. EJ appears to be using a different glam squad or none at all. The front of Kyle's dress is horrid. I do like her hair style. Rinna (and Dorit) need to stop SCREAMING all the freaking time. Screaming gets you no where when you are having adult conversations about both positive and negative incidents. That whole Dorit and Rinna yelling at Garcelle was ridiculous. I love how calm Garcelle remained. Interesting that Dorit accused Garcelle of being a 'bully'..... well Dorit certainly was acting like one last night. Dorit telling Crystal that Rinna only went over to Garcelle because she was "showing off" her dress......probably true. EJ at the end.......so we know Tom was cheating so was EJ? The only think I think I disagree with you here is Kyle's hair. I thought it looked like a birds nest. I don't like those think little pieces framing her face.
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Post by stargazer161 on Oct 15, 2021 12:50:56 GMT
Whoever said Crystal looked the best at the reunion...I totally agree! Classy and beautiful dress. I loved the color, too!
Dorit yelling (rolling my eyes)...so damn annoying, for sure. I hope Garcelle sticks around for another season!
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Post by acookertv on Oct 15, 2021 14:12:14 GMT
I was just talking to a friend about the reunion and I figured out the way I'd describe their appearances. They all looked like they were part of a style challenge on some new Bravo show. They were all sent to either TJ Maxx or Ross and told their clothes, hair and makeup all had to come from there. Probably with a $100 budget.
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