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Post by momrek06 on Mar 31, 2023 0:07:33 GMT
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Post by amber on Mar 31, 2023 2:53:01 GMT
I listened to the first Jax and Brittany podcast. They're really good and they mostly talked about their beginnings as a couple and about life since. Jax admitted his numerous mistakes and was entirely self-deprecating.
There were two stand-out discussions. First, Jax said he had become a jerk to work with during filming and talked about not showing up to film. Second, he said Raquel wasn't the only girl Sandoval had become involved with and that lines up with what Lala is saying.
Although some fans insisted Jax and Brittney were canceled, I don't think that's the case with them -- if only because it is Jax and Brittany invited back on Bravo (WWHL), and Stassi and Kristen are not.
If I were to define what kind of relationship Sandoval and Ariana were in, based on what we know, I'd say open or, at least, muddled. We'll learn more, but from what we know so far, in addition to Tom being involved in a "full-blown love affair" with Raquel, we also know Ariana defined herself as bi-sexual and had at least one outside sexual encounter that we know about (with Lala).
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 31, 2023 3:27:46 GMT
I think Tom wanted or wants children,Ariana was adamant at one time, she didn't. Maybe it was all meant to be,time will tell I guess.
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Post by Punkin on Apr 1, 2023 1:49:51 GMT
Can't wait for the reunion!!
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Post by amber on Apr 6, 2023 17:40:29 GMT
Episode 2 of Jax and Brittany's podcast is really good. Nearly all reality participants' podcasts are so dry I zone out, but not this one. It can be heard everywhere, and also via youtube ...
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Post by Realitychick on Apr 6, 2023 18:14:13 GMT
Tom Schwartz was on WWHL and admitted he knew since August about the affair with Tom and Raquel and that Tom Scamdoval told him in Jan that he was in love with Raquel. He also said if people see Tom out to maybe give him a hug cause he's having a hard time. Wow. I wasn't a fan of what he said about Katie. I think I am done with both Tom's now. Yuck.
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Post by amber on Apr 6, 2023 18:47:39 GMT
Last night's VPRs episode was good. I still don't care much for Lala as a character for I don't sence an organic way that she fits in. She's more like a sledge hammer banging her way around than a part of this friend group. Still working that one out.
Afterward, Tom Schwartz was a guest on WWHL, along with John Owen Lowe. (One of multiple video links below.)
Schwartz talked about what he knew. He was aware that Sandoval and Raquel had a one-night stand in August and, in January, he learned from Sandoval it had grown into an emotional affair where Sandoval said he was in love with Raquel. He also said once Sandoval admitted this to him, Sandoval became flagrant about his time with Raquel. Schwartz defended himself by saying that all along he was fed a narrative that Sandoval had multiple discussions with Ariana about breaking up.
(It's interesting to me that Schwartz doesn't consider one-night stands to be affairs. Feels like a generational thing and somewhat similar to multiple Inuit words defining snowflake.)
I tend to believe Sandoval and Ariana had discussions hence her shocking announcement last year saying she had her eggs frozen; thus, obviously, that relationship was not in a good place. Also, at the same time, Ariana allowed Sandoval to spend time with Raquel. It still makes sense to me that it was because Ariana and Sandoval introduced Raquel to Molly, making it okay for Sandoval to spend time overseeing that. (This is another counter-culture/generational thing to me.)
Not to forgive Sandoval for having everything crash down on Ariana as it did; every bit of this helps explain to me how it came about.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 6, 2023 21:45:22 GMT
I don't know why Katie and Tom got together to celebrate their divorce , there is a reason they are getting that divorce. Alone they are okay, together they just don't work.
I actually thought Schwartz and Raquel made a cute couple.
I like Aly, but Lala--
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Post by cavendish on Apr 9, 2023 13:01:33 GMT
Each time I’ve seen Schwartz on WWHL, I’m so put off by what a phony he is. Apparently he is the sweetest most innocent guy who is always trying to do the right thing and somehow against his will gets caught up in situations that look bad. He’s got an answer for everything— which is mostly a shrug and a little smirk into his hand. And he really loves Katie — as a friend of course- and never would have done or would do anything that would hurt her For example make out with Raquel while she’s sitting across the room and then go ask her to trim his underarm hair.
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 9, 2023 15:54:45 GMT
I think they all are so immature. And add in everything we know to date. Living here in SoCAL having been to SUR and both Lisa's Vegas restaurants (one is in the Paris and one is in Caesars) the personnel that work in all those places are very professional. My son/dil go to TomTom (in LA) allot. They rarely ever see anyone from the show. As far as all these add-ons to the wedding, I am certain Bravo is pitching in just so they can film "drama"!!!
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Post by Imperfect1 on Apr 9, 2023 16:00:27 GMT
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 9, 2023 16:51:05 GMT
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Post by amber on Apr 12, 2023 15:12:05 GMT
It seems like everyone has a podcast.
Tom Sandoval was on the Howie Mandel podcast and, during the 75-minute-plus interview, talked about what has happened and is still happening. There is an organic connection for Sandoval to speak with Mandel.
What is new is Sandoval broke up with Ariana on Valentine's Day. Before that, he talks to her about their relationship ending during couples counseling --- something they pursued together after being in his counseling. He didn't tell her about Raquel because he didn't get that far, but he did tell her it was over. At some point, she resisted, and I think he said he contacted to include VPR production at this point. Concerning timelines, I think what would have been 2 to 3 weeks before Ariana found the notorious Facetime video on Tom's phone.
There is apparent ugliness about Tom here, but also a lot of ugliness coming from other VPR cast members fanning the flames and monetizing the scandal.
Here is the full Mandel podcast on youtube ...
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Post by amber on Apr 12, 2023 15:21:27 GMT
What has bothered me most about what has been happening is that everyone surrounding them is saying what Tom and Raquel did is definitively the end of the world --- their world. Well, that's not true. If I had to define the VPR participants, it would be that they are all a work in progress.
Those are my thoughts.
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 12, 2023 15:26:22 GMT
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 12, 2023 16:42:36 GMT
So his parents told him, not to bring Raquel , so they knew. He's not the first man to have an affair, while married. This all seems way ott.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 12, 2023 18:26:33 GMT
So Tom could be fired,because he did a podcast or interview with Howie. Well that's Toms fault, nobody else's. If Ariana eviscerates Raquel and Tom at the reunion, good for her. Do I believe Ariana threatened to harm herself, yes, I do. Ariana hasn't known what she has wanted for a longtime. Lala had a thing with her on the back seat of a car, and Ariana thought or said she was bisexual. She wasn't bothered about intimacy with Tom, that doesn't excuse his behavior, but up thread I mentioned he has wanted a family for some time, Ariana hasn't. I just don't need to hear lala, when she was a mistress, and was Ariana with Tom, when he was with Kristin? The reunion should be good, but there's a lot of married affairs between these men and women.
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 12, 2023 19:08:54 GMT
So his parents told him, not to bring Raquel , so they knew. He's not the first man to have an affair, while married. This all seems way ott. FannyMare.....it's possible Tom never said anything to his parents until he ARRIVED home......then the parents told him they do not want to meet her. But I agree ..... ALL this with V-Rules seems way off. It seems like DAILY something new makes the news with this crowd. Oh BTW I just read that Scheana is sooooooo ANGRY with RL that she is putting pics of LALA over all of the pics of RL in her wedding photo album.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 12, 2023 21:24:43 GMT
If my son turned up with someone, other than his wife/ partner,I'd say hello and goodbye outside.* Scheana has a lot of growing up to do, she'll end up ruining her pictures. Lala might like that, she's always wanted those lovely long legs.
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Post by Punkin on Apr 15, 2023 4:28:19 GMT
I'm still not seeing how Tom and Rachel are going to fit in at VPR going forward, with all the hostility towards them from the other cast members. How???
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 15, 2023 6:18:55 GMT
I'm still not seeing how Tom and Rachel are going to fit in at VPR going forward, with all the hostility towards them from the other cast members. How??? I don't know . Probably like the ones that know, they have also cheated. James Ariana Lala etc. etc. have all cheated.
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 15, 2023 15:28:42 GMT
I'm still not seeing how Tom and Rachel are going to fit in at VPR going forward, with all the hostility towards them from the other cast members. How??? Me either Punkin Especially Rachel ...... because NOT ONLY Tom Sand but she was also after Tom Schwartz. The BIGGEST wrong a girl can do to her girlfriends is carry on with their husband (ex or not) or boyfriend (ex or not) and Raquel did BOTH. NO ONE will want her around them AT ALL. As far as Tom Sand .... I have no idea how being on the show with Ariana will go but I bet Schwartz will still be in his life esp with their new bar.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Apr 16, 2023 4:08:15 GMT
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Post by Amy Lee on Apr 17, 2023 4:01:09 GMT
I'm still not seeing how Tom and Rachel are going to fit in at VPR going forward, with all the hostility towards them from the other cast members. How??? NO ONE will want her around them AT ALL. And if they don't want to be around you, they're not going to want to film with you. I'm just so curious as to how all of this will turn out.
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 17, 2023 4:51:10 GMT
NO ONE will want her around them AT ALL. And if they don't want to be around you, they're not going to want to film with you. I'm just so curious as to how all of this will turn out. ME TOO!!!! AWKWARD!!!!
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Post by Imperfect1 on Apr 17, 2023 13:26:16 GMT
NO ONE will want her around them AT ALL. And if they don't want to be around you, they're not going to want to film with you. I'm just so curious as to how all of this will turn out. Not to worry! It seems that in VPR land everyone loves to talk about a scandal! And to take sides! Look at the people who KNEW about the affair and kept filming! And apparently, not only has the cast NOT STOPPED filming, but now they're filming additional footage! Emergency ‘Scandoval’ filming after Tom, Raquel affairpagesix.com/2023/03/06/bravo-gives-first-look-at-scandoval-filming-after-tom-sandoval-raquel-leviss-affair/
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Post by amber on Apr 18, 2023 20:03:58 GMT
(I keep hearing various podcast references of the BH cast refusing to film with Brandy about why she didn't return. No. It was because Brandy slapped LVP. Recently, Brandi is accused of sexual assault, and there appears to be an actual investigation. Or maybe no investigation and Brandi is simply out.)
I don't think Sandoval and Raquel will be cut from the cast. I don't think cast members really want to see them go. If they leave, there is no continuing storyline about the affair which is undeniably VPR ratings gold.
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Post by amber on Apr 18, 2023 20:06:46 GMT
I think they all are so immature. And add in everything we know to date. Living here in SoCAL having been to SUR and both Lisa's Vegas restaurants (one is in the Paris and one is in Caesars) the personnel that work in all those places are very professional. My son/dil go to TomTom (in LA) allot. They rarely ever see anyone from the show. As far as all these add-ons to the wedding, I am certain Bravo is pitching in just so they can film "drama"!!! I've never visited the Vegas establishments. What are they like?
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Post by atwi80d on Apr 18, 2023 23:09:12 GMT
Never been to Vegas myself. But then again not a gambling type of person.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 18, 2023 23:43:39 GMT
Never been to Vegas myself. But then again not a gambling type of person. I quite like Vegas. We don't gamble, plenty of other things to do.
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