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Post by FannyMare on Apr 18, 2023 23:45:03 GMT
NO ONE will want her around them AT ALL. And if they don't want to be around you, they're not going to want to film with you. I'm just so curious as to how all of this will turn out. They all need a paycheck.
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 19, 2023 0:26:35 GMT
Never been to Vegas myself. But then again not a gambling type of person. I quite like Vegas. We don't gamble, plenty of other things to do. EXACTLY FannyMare .... we are not gamblers AT ALL but boy do we love everything VEGAS!!! We go 4x a year. Just talking to my DIL about a trip in the Fall as East Coast son/dil want to fly out to Vegas and want us to meet up with them!!! We stay mostly at Bellagio and their pools are FABULOUS. We LOVE all the Vegas shows. AND the restaurant choices in Vegas are plentiful. amber, both Lisa's restaurants are LOVELY. The Paris restaurant opens at 4pm and it serves dinner. Lovely. Lovely Lovely. The one in Caesars is light meals and drinks and has different hours basic daily. So you cannot order a full meal more like app's. Both of them are very much decorated like SUR. Allot of greenery and tons of flowers. The Paris one has these amazingly large chandeliers. SOOOO LISA!!!!
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 19, 2023 4:33:09 GMT
I quite like Vegas. We don't gamble, plenty of other things to do. EXACTLY FannyMare .... we are not gamblers AT ALL but boy do we love everything VEGAS!!! We go 4x a year. Just talking to my DIL about a trip in the Fall as East Coast son/dil want to fly out to Vegas and want us to meet up with them!!! We stay mostly at Bellagio and their pools are FABULOUS. We LOVE all the Vegas shows. AND the restaurant choices in Vegas are plentiful. amber , both Lisa's restaurants are LOVELY. The Paris restaurant opens at 4pm and it serves dinner. Lovely. Lovely Lovely. The one in Caesars is light meals and drinks and has different hours basic daily. So you cannot order a full meal more like app's. Both of them are very much decorated like SUR. Allot of greenery and tons of flowers. The Paris one has these amazingly large chandeliers. SOOOO LISA!!!! I'm jealous, I'd love to go in the fall. I sometimes play the slot machines, I won $30.00 and walked away....lol
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 20, 2023 20:00:10 GMT
So last night .... Rachel felt terrible for Oliver's (soon to be) ex who she does not even know .... YET she and Ariana are (were) good friends and it was no problem she have an affair with Ariana's 9 year BF who were not even planning on breaking up .... Rachel actually seemed proud of herself that she called Oliver's ex and got all the "t" (as they say today) and met up with Oliver to tell him it just would not be appropriate dating until you are divorced. So Rachel .... how is ok to be with Sandoval?
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 20, 2023 22:26:49 GMT
So last night .... Rachel felt terrible for Oliver's (soon to be) ex who she does not even know .... YET she and Ariana are (were) good friends and it was no problem she have an affair with Ariana's 9 year BF who were not even planning on breaking up .... Rachel actually seemed proud of herself that she called Oliver's ex and got all the "t" (as they say today) and met up with Oliver to tell him it just would not be appropriate dating until you are divorced. So Rachel .... how is ok to be with Sandoval? Oliver got a taste for fame.https://pagesix.com/2022/09/03/oliver-saunders-wife-raquel-leviss-not-to-blame-for-hookup/
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 20, 2023 23:27:37 GMT
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 20, 2023 23:42:28 GMT
So last night .... Rachel felt terrible for Oliver's (soon to be) ex who she does not even know .... YET she and Ariana are (were) good friends and it was no problem she have an affair with Ariana's 9 year BF who were not even planning on breaking up .... Rachel actually seemed proud of herself that she called Oliver's ex and got all the "t" (as they say today) and met up with Oliver to tell him it just would not be appropriate dating until you are divorced. So Rachel .... how is ok to be with Sandoval? Oliver got a taste for fame.https://pagesix.com/2022/09/03/oliver-saunders-wife-raquel-leviss-not-to-blame-for-hookup/ Oh I think he is LOVING that his Mom is the famous one .... now he wants some of that FAME his MOM has .... (I love his Mom). Oliver move along.
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Post by Amy Lee on Apr 21, 2023 16:13:11 GMT
And if they don't want to be around you, they're not going to want to film with you. I'm just so curious as to how all of this will turn out. ME TOO!!!! AWKWARD!!!! Karen, if you're going to Bravocon, you're welcome to pay for my ticket, my hotel, and fly me in. Lmao!
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 22, 2023 14:42:45 GMT
Karen, if you're going to Bravocon, you're welcome to pay for my ticket, my hotel, and fly me in. Lmao! Amy Lee, SURE ABSOLUTELY and we will have TONS of BRAVOCON FUN!!!
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Post by kk4 on Apr 22, 2023 22:00:13 GMT
Call me crazy, but I say it will all come out that this whole Scandoval thing was planned from the beginning for ratings. There are already signs on the episodes airing now. You can't tell me that #1 production didn't have a clue and that # 2 the cast was in on it...yes, they are a cast in a TV show to make money.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 22, 2023 22:17:57 GMT
Call me crazy, but I say it will all come out that this whole Scandoval thing was planned from the beginning for ratings. There are already signs on the episodes airing now. You can't tell me that #1 production didn't have a clue and that # 2 the cast was in on it...yes, they are a cast in a TV show to make money. I don't think so, they simply aren't that good actors. The things they are saying about Rachel now, are very believable. There have also been remarks, that its Raquel after Sandoval. I do think it got go a point, where Sandoval just didn't care.. He apparently met Raquel away from cameras and production, when they first hooked up.
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Post by amber on Apr 23, 2023 0:26:12 GMT
Here I go again, but this time filling in the blanks.
I think Sandoval has had plenty of hookups. We know Sandoval and Kristen had outside hookups. Jax pulled the plug on Sandoval's relationship with Kristen, and Ariana, who Sandoval already began hooking up with, was sitting in the wings. Sandoval and Ariana became official, and we learned of Miami Girl. Most likely, there were others.
In January, Sandoval says to Schwartz he tried to break up with Ariana for weeks. I suspect that's when the two began couples counseling. That ended, and Sandoval took the initiative and formally broke up with Ariana on February 14.
Ariana searched his phone because she suspected Tom had something going on with a band member and stumbled upon Raquel's Facetime.
Lala let it spill that Ariana hated Sandoval before she discovered the Facetime. This means, at minimum, Lala knew there was trouble in the relationship, or she knew they had broken up. She and other female cast members could be dragging Sandoval and Raquel for kicks and giggles or just for ratings.
Here's another essential part. Ariana doesn't want children but froze her eggs a couple of years ago? Really? Then there is something about her recently asking Tom to donate sperm to create and freeze embryos because they last longer than the eggs, and Ariana still doesn't want children. Huh? Manipulation alert?
I can't jump onto the hate Sandoval and Raquel bandwagon.
First, all of the above, plus I don't find Ariana's story compelling. I'm not a Katie fan, either. I prefer the Toms.
(I don't like Lala, because she's a BSing hypocrite trying to distract us with street talk.)
Second, my story. I was in a 7-year serious-love-of-our-lives relationship with my college sweetheart, who, towards the end, cheated on me. To be honest (today), we weren't great together anymore. I knew he wanted to break up with me, but I could guilt him into staying because he didn't want to hurt me. As unsatisfying as our relationship had become, all I could think about was having invested so much time and couldn't imagine starting over with someone else. (Don't I sound like a 20 something year old? LOL)
Anyway, the following few months were miserable and didn't end well because I turned him into a jackass in the eyes of our mutual friends and families. He didn't deserve the wrath of someone who loved him as much as I said I did. I did him dirty.
People should be able to end relationships, and the ending is usually messy. Yes, we see Tom being deceptive, but so is Ariana. So is Lala. So is James. So is Scheana. They've all done what they are accusing of Raquel --- Sandoval, too.
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Post by Amy Lee on Apr 23, 2023 1:22:12 GMT
Call me crazy, but I say it will all come out that this whole Scandoval thing was planned from the beginning for ratings. There are already signs on the episodes airing now. You can't tell me that #1 production didn't have a clue and that # 2 the cast was in on it...yes, they are a cast in a TV show to make money. I don't think so, they simply aren't that good actors. The things they are saying about Rachel now, are very believable. There have also been remarks, that its Raquel after Sandoval. I do think it got go a point, where Sandoval just didn't care.. He apparently met Raquel away from cameras and production, when they first hooked up. This. They're not that smart to come up with something this elaborate. I also think Scandoval and crew didn't anticipate the reaction the internet would have of their actions, how their businesses could suffer, etc. Not all publicity is good publicty. As we know, the internet can be a merciless place that doesn't easily forget. I don't have a dog in this fight, but every Wednesday, I grab my bag of Doritos and watch. I also can't get enough of the subreddit. It's fun. Ha!
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Post by momrek06 on May 5, 2023 0:21:10 GMT
Has anyone been watching?
I am watching last night's show .... Raquel thinking she would be a "role model" for girls. Really Raquel .... go behind one of your best friends back (Ariana) and sleep with her BF for monthssssssss.
Sandoval is PATHETIC. I have NO words for that cheater.
Ariana telling Scheana in a conversation how Raquel is the sweetest and nicest girl she has ever met.
Boy oh Boy
James definitely has anger issues .... Ally better watch it if she thinks she plans on spending a lot of time with James.
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Post by FannyMare on May 5, 2023 4:34:04 GMT
Has anyone been watching? I am watching last night's show .... Raquel thinking she would be a "role model" for girls. Really Raquel .... go behind one of your best friends back (Ariana) and sleep with her BF for monthssssssss. Sandoval is PATHETIC. I have NO words for that cheater. Ariana telling Scheana in a conversation how Raquel is the sweetest and nicest girl she has ever met. Boy oh Boy James definitely has anger issues .... Ally better watch it if she thinks she plans on spending a lot of time with James. My heart hurts for Ariana, she has really gone to bat for Raquel.All of Tom's lies are unraveling .How strange was that whole glamping bit, and the way Tom leaps to Raquels defense, wow. Next week there's mention of no intimacy, so I do wonder just how long Tom and Ariana would of lasted, and if she becomes suspicious of him screwing around on her a lot, before.Raquel
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Post by amber on May 5, 2023 6:37:27 GMT
Isn't it interesting that once sh*t hit the fan between Ariana and Sandoval that Sandoval immediately contacted producers. Probably because production already knew what Ariana didn't.
What Ariana did know is that Sandoval wasn't that into her anymore. What she didn't know was his new love interest is Raquel.
Could it be that Sandoval was also screwing around with one of his band members as Ariana suspected? Regardless, it's probably been a couple of years since Sandoval and Ariena's relationship has become lackluster and the two only going through the motions. What appears to be different this season is production learned about Sandoval sneaking around with Raquel and we know this because the edit tells us production knew.
Just like Lala ended with Randal, Ariana lost Sandoval exactly how she got him.
I expect Sandoval and Raquel to return, if only because they made VPR relevant again. Also returning is Jax and Britney, hopefully Stassi and maybe Kristen.
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Post by Amy Lee on May 5, 2023 13:03:19 GMT
Has anyone been watching? I am watching last night's show .... Raquel thinking she would be a "role model" for girls. Really Raquel .... go behind one of your best friends back (Ariana) and sleep with her BF for monthssssssss. Sandoval is PATHETIC. I have NO words for that cheater. Ariana telling Scheana in a conversation how Raquel is the sweetest and nicest girl she has ever met. Boy oh Boy James definitely has anger issues .... Ally better watch it if she thinks she plans on spending a lot of time with James. Yes, ma'am! Every week, things get crazier. I'm enjoying Tom getting caught in lies.
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Post by Amy Lee on May 5, 2023 13:04:54 GMT
Has anyone been watching? I am watching last night's show .... Raquel thinking she would be a "role model" for girls. Really Raquel .... go behind one of your best friends back (Ariana) and sleep with her BF for monthssssssss. Sandoval is PATHETIC. I have NO words for that cheater. Ariana telling Scheana in a conversation how Raquel is the sweetest and nicest girl she has ever met. Boy oh Boy James definitely has anger issues .... Ally better watch it if she thinks she plans on spending a lot of time with James. My heart hurts for Ariana, she has really gone to bat for Raquel.All of Tom's lies are unraveling .How strange was that whole glamping bit, and the way Tom leaps to Raquels defense, wow. I'm sure that Scheana is not enjoying eating Crow right now over defending Raquel and being messy.
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Post by FannyMare on May 5, 2023 20:33:30 GMT
My heart hurts for Ariana, she has really gone to bat for Raquel.All of Tom's lies are unraveling .How strange was that whole glamping bit, and the way Tom leaps to Raquels defense, wow. I'm sure that Scheana is not enjoying eating Crow right now over defending Raquel and being messy. Didn't Scheana punch Raquel? I like the flashbacks, I liked Tom back then, now he looks sleazy
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Post by Amy Lee on May 5, 2023 20:37:46 GMT
I'm sure that Scheana is not enjoying eating Crow right now over defending Raquel and being messy. Didn't Scheana punch Raquel? I like the flashbacks, I lekd Tom back then, now he looks sleazy No, just shoved her. She couldn't form a fist due to her long nails. 💅💅💅
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Post by amber on May 6, 2023 2:53:51 GMT
Scheana said she didn't curl her fingers and make a fist, however, she also said she intentionally struck Raquel which blackened and cut her eye. It wasn't a shove.
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Post by Imperfect1 on May 7, 2023 18:26:40 GMT
Here I go again, but this time filling in the blanks. I think Sandoval has had plenty of hookups. We know Sandoval and Kristen had outside hookups. Jax pulled the plug on Sandoval's relationship with Kristen, and Ariana, who Sandoval already began hooking up with, was sitting in the wings. Sandoval and Ariana became official, and we learned of Miami Girl. Most likely, there were others. In January, Sandoval says to Schwartz he tried to break up with Ariana for weeks. I suspect that's when the two began couples counseling. That ended, and Sandoval took the initiative and formally broke up with Ariana on February 14. Ariana searched his phone because she suspected Tom had something going on with a band member and stumbled upon Raquel's Facetime. Lala let it spill that Ariana hated Sandoval before she discovered the Facetime. This means, at minimum, Lala knew there was trouble in the relationship, or she knew they had broken up. She and other female cast members could be dragging Sandoval and Raquel for kicks and giggles or just for ratings. Here's another essential part. Ariana doesn't want children but froze her eggs a couple of years ago? Really? Then there is something about her recently asking Tom to donate sperm to create and freeze embryos because they last longer than the eggs, and Ariana still doesn't want children. Huh? Manipulation alert? I can't jump onto the hate Sandoval and Raquel bandwagon. First, all of the above, plus I don't find Ariana's story compelling. I'm not a Katie fan, either. I prefer the Toms. (I don't like Lala, because she's a BSing hypocrite trying to distract us with street talk.) Second, my story. I was in a 7-year serious-love-of-our-lives relationship with my college sweetheart, who, towards the end, cheated on me. To be honest (today), we weren't great together anymore. I knew he wanted to break up with me, but I could guilt him into staying because he didn't want to hurt me. As unsatisfying as our relationship had become, all I could think about was having invested so much time and couldn't imagine starting over with someone else. (Don't I sound like a 20 something year old? LOL) Anyway, the following few months were miserable and didn't end well because I turned him into a jackass in the eyes of our mutual friends and families. He didn't deserve the wrath of someone who loved him as much as I said I did. I did him dirty. People should be able to end relationships, and the ending is usually messy. Yes, we see Tom being deceptive, but so is Ariana. So is Lala. So is James. So is Scheana. They've all done what they are accusing of Raquel --- Sandoval, too. Thanks for sharing your story amber. And most especially, thanks for sharing the parts that make you look less than perfect. It takes someone very brave to do that, and I give you props for it! The bottom line is that we're all doing the best we can, which is not easy when we're hurt. And doing things the "right" way is especially hard at that time. Hopefully you were able to learn from that experience and handle subsequent relationship breakups with more sympathy and sensitivity.
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Post by momrek06 on May 7, 2023 18:50:41 GMT
To me it is still unclear whether Raquel hit Scheana or Scheana hit Raquel .... whether it was a punch to the face or a shove .... We do know that there was charges pressed. We do know that Raquel did not show up for Court. We do know that charges against Scheana were dropped. Maybe that INCIDENT will be addressed at the Reunion show.
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Post by amber on May 7, 2023 18:59:59 GMT
I grew up. I later learned he had also cheated with my then best friend. He couldn't help but to admit this to me a year later. I confronted her and she struggled to remain friends with me, eventially cutting me off, which, of course was for the best.
I struggle to tolerate vapid, selfish women on this show, such as Lala, Katie, and now Ariana. There is no depth. Not to say that if they begin to show integrity, I won't change my mind, but I have yet to see any of that.
Does that mean I am giving Sandoval and Raquel a pass? No.
What I find most interesting is how many people who said they were blindsided knew what was happening and starting with production. They have a show to sell and they're selling it.
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Post by FannyMare on May 7, 2023 19:16:10 GMT
There are never before scenes online. One where Ariana, Tom and Raquel are in the hot tub, they all look more than cozy. I did wonder if they had an open relationship, because Raquel was very close to them both, Ariana was topless I don't know if Raquel was. Strange relationship, I think it worked, until it didn't.
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Post by amber on May 7, 2023 21:17:46 GMT
To me it is still unclear whether Raquel hit Scheana or Scheana hit Raquel .... whether it was a punch to the face or a shove .... We do know that there was charges pressed. We do know that Raquel did not show up for Court. We do know that charges against Scheana were dropped. Maybe that INCIDENT will be addressed at the Reunion show. momrek06, I say all of this with no disrespect. Please, remember we're talking about occurrences related to a reality TV show that was, before the Sanderval-Raquel affair, being discussed as filming its final season of Vanderpump Rules. I'm relatively confident that during her latest appearance on WWHL after the court hearing, Scheana proudly admitted she struck Raquel. However, it wasn't a fist punch because, as we all know, her nails are too long to make a fist. There might have been a phone involved, in that Raquel attemped to grab Scheana's phone ... but Scheana did say she hit Raquel. To comment further, no charges were ever pressed. If a complaint was filed and charges pressed, that would happen in NY, where the physical altercation occurred, and nothing was ever pursued in NY. The request for a temporary restraining order was filed in California, which is a civil matter, not a criminal. Before the hearing, Raquel's attorney filed a motion with the court. Indeed, Scheana's attorney received a copy stating his client didn't intend to proceed with a permanent restraining order. This before the hearing filing was made public. I heard about it, and I imagine you did, too. Raquel didn't need to be there, and neither did Scheana. Both knew they didn't have to attend. The hearing in itself was perfunctory. No charges against Scheana were dropped because there were no charges against Scheana pressed.
Raquel's attorney is a real-life, practicing attorney. In contrast, Schenna's attorney was accompanied by his publicist. A publicist! Not even OJ's attorneys, while defending OJ when charged with murder, attended hearings with a publicist! Can it be argued that Scheana thought it best to be represented at the hearing to ensure Raquel's attorney didn't show up to argue a mulligan? Take note that Raquel's real-life attorney wasn't there. If he were, Raquel would have had to pay him a grand or two to show up to the 11-second court hearing when all parties were aware and agreed upon the outcome. That would be a hard no for me. If I were Raquel, I wouldn't pay him. Besides, Raquel doesn't make the kind of money Scheana makes on the show. Scheana is an OG and isn't this Raquel's second year as a full cast member? Prior we only occassionally saw her filming with James. If Raquel's attorney did show up and argued his client changed her mind, the court wouldn't rule against Scheana at the hearing. Instead, the judge would either dismiss the entire matter or order both parties to continue by filing additional motions by some future date. Scheana was at no disadvantage by not having her attorney attend the hearing. Scheana was aware of all this, and she had to have been. Otherwise, her attorney would be remiss for not informing and advising his client to her best advantage. Thus, could it be that Scheana and her attorney drove a couple of hours to show up to court on a rainy day for a (drum roll) publicity stunt? Ha! Say it's not true! The only question that remains on my mind is, did Scheana pay said attorney, or was her attorney bringing his publicist a tell that he showed up for publicity's sake? A question that might remain on other's minds is, will this California temporary restraining order remain on Scheana's record? No. It's just a temporary civil matter that would be on record if later ruled to continue as a permanent restraining order. It didn't so it isn't. Remember, the court date occured AFTER the filming of the reunion show. I'm not making this up and am confident of what I am saying is true. I don't think production will spend much time discussing the restraining order, do you? Ahead of watching the reunion, I'm disappointed Scheana and Raquel will not be filmed on set together. Thus, we need to wait until next season to see that interaction. (Scheana only discussed what actually happened in NY AFTER the temporary restraining order was dismissed by the court. She did so on WWHL and she might have also talked about it on her and other's podcasts. I don't watch them all as I don't have time or desire to watch them all.) I'd be 100% shocked if both Sandoval and Raquel don't return next season. Remember, VPR was being discussed as filming it's final season BEFORE THE AFFAIR was publically disclosed. The affair was NOT announced by Ariana, btw ... Sandoval disclosed during the Howie Mandel podcast that when first confronted, Ariana told him she wanted to quit and walk away from everything. The show, the sandwich shop ... all if it. I recall Sandoval saying this is why he contracted producers and they jetted over to film. Remember, Ariana and Sandoval had already broken up a couple of weeks before and she suspected he had something going on with a band member. Obviously, learning he had been carrying on with Raquel was an enormaous betrayal.
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Post by Imperfect1 on May 8, 2023 0:59:40 GMT
There are never before scenes online. One where Ariana, Tom and Raquel are in the hot tub, they all look more than cozy. I did wonder if they had an open relationship, because Raquel was very close to them both, Ariana was topless I don't know if Raquel was. Strange relationship, I think it worked, until it didn't. Apparently there's a lot of that kind of thing going on with this group. On last week's episode Tom talked about the time that Ariana and Lala were having sex in the back seat of the car while he was driving. When that incident happened, it was a televised part of the episode. This wasn't new information. And pretty much all of the girls of the cast have been kissing each other at one time or another. They're all talking about all of it in the spoiler below. Just as a warning, it's pretty graphic conversation, so if that's not your thing, I suggest you don't watch it.
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Post by amber on May 8, 2023 1:39:15 GMT
The only difference this time around with Sandoval and Raquel --- the only difference --- is that Sandoval and Raquel fell in love and couldn't/didn't stop.
To be honest, it's hard for me to judge Raquel because I don't think I understand her as a character as well as the OGs, but Sandoval seems to me as committed to Raquel as he was to Ariana when he began his affair with Ariana while still with Kristen.
Back then, Kristen was having none of it, and went into total attack mode, hoping to break up Sandoval and Ariana, looking to get back together with Sandoval UNTIL she realized she was being edged out of the show and then suddenly, she reverted her efforts to becoming friends with Ariana.
Another difference this time around? Raquel is much younger than the VPR girls attacking her. They're ten years older than they used to be.
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Post by momrek06 on May 8, 2023 2:35:24 GMT
amber , THANK YOU. Everything you said is SPOT ON. I agree with your post 100%. AND yes, I should have never posted that charges were pressed .... it was about a temporary restraining order .... I messed that up. One minute I am trying to keep up with the T&R drama and the next minute I could care less what they do. Off Topic: I wonder what this will all mean for T&T's new restaurant? Have they opened? It seems like they have been struggling to open. I did see PUMP has closed. Wondering if Katie's and Ariana's sandwich shoppe has opened?
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Post by FannyMare on May 8, 2023 4:32:03 GMT
amber , THANK YOU. Everything you said is SPOT ON. I agree with your post 100%. AND yes, I should have never posted that charges were pressed .... it was about a temporary restraining order .... I messed that up. One minute I am trying to keep up with the T&R drama and the next minute I could care less what they do. Off Topic: I wonder what this will all mean for T&T's new restaurant? Have they opened? It seems like they have been struggling to open. I did see PUMP has closed. Wondering if Katie's and Ariana's sandwich shoppe has opened? Lala said it hadn't, but take that with a grain of salt. S&S officially opened its doors to the public in November 2022
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