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Post by amber on May 22, 2023 17:30:14 GMT
I see it that way, too, but overall, to me, it's more of the same.
Has anyone noticed that in the recent WWHL featuring Ariana wearing that cheesy black negligee, when the camera panned over to show Scheana and Brock, Brock couldn't have looked more disinterested and bored?
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Post by Amy Lee on May 22, 2023 21:05:32 GMT
LaLa was Randall’s mistress but she wasn’t good or best friends with his wife. She wasn’t in the friend group with him and his wife. That’s the crux of the matter. And that’s why Sandoval and Raquel are being shunned. And that’s also why I disagree with amber that everyone in the group has done the same thing. No one has betrayed a member of the friend group in that way. Even Ariana who was involved with Sandoval when Kristen was — wasn’t herself a member of the group at the time. But there are a lot of factors that go into the reception by the group of the Tom-Raquel situation— that make it particulaly repugnant and chilling. But as for LaLa— We also don’t know the exact details of Lalas involvement with Randall. She says she asked him about his status and he said he wasn’t married or committed to anyone else— and we don’t know that she didn’t believe that. But he had his wife’s claim on him— and LaLa didn’t in that way— although I would agree getting involved with a married man isn’t exactly admirable. Im glad you mentioned this. The fact is, Randall cheated here. He didn't forget he was married, and he didn't cheat because someone forgot to ask him if he was single. He cheated on Amber and fed her lies and fed LaLa lies(including hiring aomeone to paint Amber as crazy or soemthing to that effect). At the end of the day, LaLa and Amber are now cool, if not friends, and their children are in each other's lives. As far the differences in scenarios, as you've outlined, they pretty much speak for themselves. They knew what they were intentionally doing in Ariana's face.
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Post by FannyMare on May 22, 2023 21:15:26 GMT
I see it that way, too, but overall, to me, it's more of the same. Has anyone noticed that in the recent WWHL featuring Ariana wearing that cheesy black negligee, when the camera panned over to show Scheana and Brock, Brock couldn't have looked more disinterested and bored? on. Most of them have cheated within the group. Lala with James, when he was with Raquel...on and on and on.
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Post by amber on May 27, 2023 3:47:37 GMT
Lala must return to finish high school or study for her GED because listening to her speech has become excruciating. She doesn't fit in with this friend group any better than when she first arrived.
She announces she has spent nearly one million dollars fighting for her daughter's sole physical and legal custody? How does that benefit her daughter?
And if it's not Lala, then it's James. They both create a strong argument for Sandoval and Raquel's return.
Don't Lala and Ariana realize it wins them no favor to speak rudely to LVP? As I recall, it didn't work out when Ariana criticized what she (wrongly) considered to be LVP's dismissive attitude toward Sandoval a couple of seasons ago.
It appears that Ariana and Katie did rent the open restaurant spot next to SUR on Robertson. I'll try to do a drive-by when I return to LA.
Still looks like Jax and Britney will return next season. Hopefully Stassi, too!
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Post by amber on Jun 4, 2023 4:42:07 GMT
Here is Ariana's Call Her Daddy Spotify video interview. It fills in gaps, and, other than Tom hiding the affair and perhaps the open relationship jazz, both Ariana and Tom are mostly telling the truth. He did break up with her on Valentines day but she looks back at that converstation as a relationship breakthrough. (Oh, god. She handled it just as I did under similar circumstances.) She's stubborn and cannot even admit that she was the other woman when she and Tom first got together. All of them, Tom, Ariana, Lala, Scheana and Kristen refuse to see their cheating as cheating. Ariana does not consider Lala and Katie as a part of her inner circle of friends. I really like Ariana's boots and need to determine who makes them. open.spotify.com/episode/57Tk893eO6CvCX7lUBsqXD
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Post by amber on Jun 4, 2023 19:30:28 GMT
I'm listening to the Call Her Daddy Podcast (without being sleepy) again in the background. This is what Ariana refuses to authentically say: that Sandoval wasn't fighting for the relationship during the cheating confrontation and Sandoval wanted to break up. When pressed with questions from the Call Her Daddy host leading to those answers, Ariana reverts to spouting off annoying platitudes that sound like she practiced them in front of a mirror, like, "To be very clear, I didn't lose him, he lost me ... [heavy pause]." Ariana also diminishes Tom's relationship with Kristen as subpar as she tells us she elevated HER after-the-fact friendship with Kristen as meaningful. OMG, why do women do that? And I just got to the part where Ariana justifies her going in with all guns, ensuring she has all their friends on board to circle the wagons against Sandoval and Raquel.
Ugh, I know that because that's what I did. This video is triggering me...
Later in the video, Ariana admits that Sandoval did break up with her on Valentine's Day. Still, she treated his doing so with editorial privilege and considered the discussion a jumping-off point for future negotiation. That's when she told him she'd quit VPR, cancel social media accounts, and take off. She admitted to mental health issues, I am assuming serious depression, that keeps her in bed or at home. I don't think Sandoval lied when he said he felt concern for her well-being. She further disregarded their break-up conversation by saying he bought her flowers and they attended a concert together as proof that they hadn't really broken up. However, she didn't mention the two of them having sex after January.
I know some here are upset that I am not on board with trashing Sandoval and Raquel, and to those, it's not that I don't feel Ariana's pain, because I do. I don't feel her defiance of the truth and her wanting to squash Sandoval, Raquel (and Schwartz) like bugs and anyone else who might show compassion for them. That is so selfish of Ariana. People are people. She picked Sandoval, knowing he was a cheater and because he didn't change for her, is what really pisses her off. I think. I also think how Ariana is handling things has much to do with how she felt about her relationship with her father, or so she says.
In the interview, you'll hear her say that she knew something was off for quite sime time. She said he kept piling up more and more things that separated the two of them from spending time together, such as the restaurant and the band. She also admitted that she loved Tom as much as she did because she considered his quirks as endearing, that she loved their friendship connection, and that he was her forever guy.
Ariana, I know you're not reading this, but if it gets back to you, here is an absolute truism: Relationships always end as they begin! Romanticizing anything different will eventually kick you in the ass. You only learn from being honest, not from stubbornly flexing and pretending you're the tough girl. I'm very sorry this didn't turn out the way you hoped it would.
This story plot is precisely why I love VPR. It's genuine. Bravo, the cast and influencers get that, too, and have been fanning the flames because they're making lots of money doing that, including Ariana. So, we have fans embracing Ariana's rage and some doing idiotic things, such as trashing Sandoval's restaurant reviews, his and Raquel's social media, and Schwartz's, too. We've heard about death threats which are over-the-top ridiculous.
Although I didn't care one way or another before, I like Arian now because of the Call Her Daddy interview and not because of the show ... the reunion effect is having me think less of Ariana, Lala, and James because they're acting like bullies.
I hope we learn what really happened from Raquel, if not during the next installment of the reunion, then shortly afterward. I suspect Tom groomed her to overlook the obvious, just as he most certainly groomed Ariana when they first got together. (To be young again!)
Finally, should Sandoval and Raquel be canceled? No, because they are part of all these people's stories, warts and all.
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Post by amber on Jun 8, 2023 21:54:27 GMT
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Post by amber on Jul 14, 2023 3:11:16 GMT
On tonight's WWHL, Garcelle Beauvais said she and her son, Oliver, left this year's Vanderpump Dogs Galla early once they discovered they were being seated at the same table as Lala. Garcelle said Oliver was intentionally used {IMO by Lala to expand her otherwise non-existent storyline}.
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Post by momrek06 on Aug 16, 2023 14:40:41 GMT
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Post by Amy Lee on Aug 16, 2023 15:12:30 GMT
Well, then i guess James doing it to her was no big deal either. This is blowing up on the subreddit.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Aug 16, 2023 19:11:31 GMT
I guess Raquel never heard that "two wrongs don't make a right!" Her cheating with her best friend's 9 year live-in boyfriend was despicable, no matter what other castmates did or didn't do.
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Post by amber on Aug 18, 2023 23:08:14 GMT
According to Raquel, she and Ariana weren't friends. Being referred to as best friends was a production thing, just like the over-the-top outage. They're all phony.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Aug 22, 2023 7:57:21 GMT
According to Raquel, she and Ariana weren't friends. Being referred to as best friends was a production thing, just like the over-the-top outage. They're all phony. OF COURSE Raquel's going to say that NOW!!! But that's not what she was saying all the years that she and Ariana were so close!!! And by the way, to me, saying they weren't such close friends doesn't take her off the hook one little bit!
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Post by amber on Aug 22, 2023 20:49:01 GMT
Ariana Madix Faked Moving Out of House with Ex Tom Sandoval as Brand Admits It Was SponCon 'Stunt'people.com/ariana-madix-admits-she-faked-moving-out-of-house-she-shares-with-ex-tom-sandoval-7501764Why would Ariana "fake" moving out? Why woudn't she really move out? Seem as just like her relationship with Tom, the fake move out had to do with her "sponsored brand partnership." I find it more interesting that Ariana and Sandoval still lives together. Remember that after she was hit with the "Scadoval of it all," supposedly others remained in the house to prevent the couple from running into each other? Well, supposedly, that arrangement ended less than a month after and it's just Ariana and Tom in the house. (Bless her heart) Raquel says she left Sandoval with her apartment keys so he would have a place to stay. He never moved. Why is that? I'd bet Ariana had somewhere else to stay, too, but she stayed in the house with Sandoval. Hmm. Why is that? Here are other supposed truisms to contemplate. (1) Erika Jayne's recent weight loss came “hormonally” from menopause. (2) Brandi Glanville and Adrienne Maloof were the best of pals. (3) The Batchelor dates are real. (4) We saw Sandoval "meet" Ariana at SUR while he was still living with and in a committed relationship with Kristen. (We later learned Ariana and Tom met years before, had been working together at Villa Blanca long before SUR opened and had been having an affair for some time before filming together and leaving Kristen.) Here is what's real: (1) Vanderpump Rules is a reality TV show. (2) Season after season, we watched Ariana and Sandoval's romantic relationship dissolve into not much other than brand deals. (3) Sandoval and Raquel had an affair (supposedly one of his many), and (4) Ariana and Raquel filmed together. Does any of this make it OK for Raquel to do what she did? No! Raquel is a young 28 and until treatment, probably a very wasted 28. I would hope she's learned what it's not ok to do and prefer to show her some grace, along with no grace towards Sandoval and eyerolls towards Ariana and the rest of the cast --- except LVP. To me, LVP can do no wrong.
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Post by amber on Sept 3, 2023 15:27:22 GMT
I notice one but probably two of my posts on this page are now gone. One included the link to the Bethenny Raquel YouTube interview. Is there a reason?
EDITED TO ADD: Maybe what happened is a glitch? I'm happy to repost.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 6, 2023 20:39:32 GMT
Ariana Madix will make her Broadway debut this January in CHICAGO, starring as Roxie Hart for a limited eight-week run. Congrats! #PumpRules! She's having great fun.
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Post by momrek06 on Dec 6, 2023 20:53:35 GMT
Ariana Madix will make her Broadway debut this January in CHICAGO, starring as Roxie Hart for a limited eight-week run. Congrats! #PumpRules! She's having great fun. Oh WOW...wicked cool for Ariana!!! My DIL loves her and just by chance she has a Medical Conference in NYC in JAN. DIL has never been to NYC so she called me (back in OCT) to watch the girls for a week while she takes my son with her to NYC. Generally, her Medical Conferences she goes alone. But where hubby, myself and our sons spent so much time in the Big Apple when we lived East she thought Chris would be the best Tour Guide for her. CHICAGO is such an AWESOME show on Broadway!!! Seen it COUNTLESS times!!!
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 7, 2023 0:11:42 GMT
Ariana Madix will make her Broadway debut this January in CHICAGO, starring as Roxie Hart for a limited eight-week run. Congrats! #PumpRules! She's having great fun. Oh WOW...wicked cool for Ariana!!! My DIL loves her and just by chance she has a Medical Conference in NYC in JAN. DIL has never been to NYC so she called me (back in OCT) to watch the girls for a week while she takes my son with her to NYC. Generally, her Medical Conferences she goes alone. But where hubby, myself and our sons spent so much time in the Big Apple when we lived East she thought Chris would be the best Tour Guide for her. CHICAGO is such an AWESOME show on Broadway!!! Seen it COUNTLESS times!!! I know all the words, I bet you do as well.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Dec 8, 2023 0:59:00 GMT
I'm so happy for Ariana! She's certainly left Sandoval way back in the dust! Between her WONDERFUL dancing on Dancing With the Stars, and her new cocktail book, and her Los Angeles sandwich shop (with Katie Maloney) soon to open up, and now her starring as Roxie in Chicago on Broadway, WOW!!! She's a star on the rise, for sure!
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 12, 2023 7:51:20 GMT
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Post by momrek06 on Dec 13, 2023 15:40:30 GMT
OH BOY, that Trailer. Eek, this will be one INTENSE season!!!! THANKS FannyMare for the TRAILER!!!
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Post by momrek06 on Jan 30, 2024 16:39:56 GMT
SEASON 11 starts TONIGHT!!!!
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Post by FannyMare on Jan 30, 2024 19:15:04 GMT
SEASON 11 starts TONIGHT!!!!
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Post by Amy Lee on Feb 2, 2024 16:08:31 GMT
I think it was an OK start to the season.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 2, 2024 16:19:16 GMT
I think it's going to get better, as it goes along.
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Post by momrek06 on Feb 21, 2024 6:14:28 GMT
I am so behind in my viewing. I am only at EPI 3. Wow, I had NO idea Sandoval was STILL in love with Rachel. Oh boy. Just the few episodes I have watched, it is so painful being Sandoval. From what I understood watching, Schwartz said with social media slamming Sandoval, it is best Sandoval have nothing to do with S&S. Appears no one from their 'group' wants anything to do with Sandoval. And I completely understand. I have no clue how Ariana can stay in that house with him. How uncomfortable that must be for both of them. Yikes Sandoval was really screaming at Lisa as she offered her advice to him while sitting in a 'closed' Pump. Appears Schwartz is all alone as far as the 'group' goes in wanting to bring the 'group' back together. I have been to SUR several times. Love it there and the food is awesome. Lisa is opening a new place in Lake Tahoe, wicked cool. Sandoval has added Rachel and Schwartz to his songs when he is on stage performing? It is nice seeing Scheana and Katie together.
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Post by Amy Lee on Feb 21, 2024 13:48:27 GMT
I am so behind in my viewing. I am only at EPI 3. Wow, I had NO idea Sandoval was STILL in love with Rachel. Oh boy. Just the few episodes I have watched, it is so painful being Sandoval. From what I understood watching, Schwartz said with social media slamming Sandoval, it is best Sandoval have nothing to do with S&S. Appears no one from their 'group' wants anything to do with Sandoval. And I completely understand. I have no clue how Ariana can stay in that house with him. How uncomfortable that must be for both of them. Yikes Sandoval was really screaming at Lisa as she offered her advice to him while sitting in a 'closed' Pump. Appears Schwartz is all alone as far as the 'group' goes in wanting to bring the 'group' back together. I have been to SUR several times. Love it there and the food is awesome. Lisa is opening a new place in Lake Tahoe, wicked cool. Sandoval has added Rachel and Schwartz to his songs when he is on stage performing? It is nice seeing Scheana and Katie together. The only person he loves, Karen, is himself. Rachel has been detailing how he tried to lure her back onto the show to film. It clearly didn't work, and that's for her best.
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Post by momrek06 on Feb 21, 2024 15:20:13 GMT
Oh WOW Amy Lee . ITA!!!! Sandoval was so angry that everyone (Social Media) and his Pump friends have not MOVED ON from all his drama. WELL maybe they won't for a realllllly long time. If ever. As Lisa told him "you created this mess"!!! TRUTH. Seriously, what did Sandoval and Rachel think would happen when they decided to do this to Ariana? AND for almost A YEAR!!!!
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Post by momrek06 on Mar 1, 2024 15:37:33 GMT
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Post by Amy Lee on Mar 1, 2024 15:44:46 GMT
To say that this is a mess is putting it kindly. Yesterday gave me whiplash. I'm going to refrain from making any comments regarding this case due to the sensitive nature of it. Thank you for the links, Ms. K
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