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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2019 21:37:30 GMT
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2019 21:50:09 GMT
It was Kellee and during a confessional. Production offered to do something about it but she said no. Since it had the great potential to impact her game, either way (the victim dilemma), surely it was her choice to make. Turns out since yesterday Kellee has been blasting the show for mishandling Dan, that they should have done something sooner. Oh she waited until he got kicked off.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2019 21:51:48 GMT
I don't understand how pre-taping the reunion show makes it less sensitive and more secure but whatever.I'm just glad that Dan is gone. I have to wonder what he's like in his workplace outside the game. He's probably very touchy-feely there, too, so I wouldn't be surprised to see allegations made about him outside of Survivor after this. I would like to see Janet and Noura in the final two but that's unlikely to happen. I have to say after this week's show, Dean has proven himself to be very clever so I could see him winning. I still feel like I hardly know Tommy. Lauren hasn't done anything to make herself stand out to me. I would be happiest with Janet winning. Former Survivor contestant Jeff Varner posted a rant on social media to say that most to all of the cast has rallied behind Dan, and that the reunion is being pre-taped because "cast members plan to publicly support Dan and call out producers.” Why is he involving himself in something that has nothing to do with him and he was not there?
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2019 21:54:38 GMT
Seems like producers are screwed either way....they left him in there too long and/or they took him out when they shouldn’t have. No matter which way you go, I can see why they’d pre-tape it. They’re gonna need time to edit, edit, edit whatever happens so they don’t look any worse than they already do. They really can't do that because there is an audience and they will blog, facebook, instagram, whatever about the reunion so nothing will be hidden. It is pretty obvious that Dan/Kellee will be the center of the show as well as the ladies who then claimed they were harassed by Dan, and all to get Janet eliminated.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 14, 2019 22:08:24 GMT
It's interesting what viewers first thought when we saw Jeff walking up to the camp. Some viewers assumed a twist was coming. Some thought it was the Rob and Sandra reveal. My thoughts instantly went to an emergency back at home. I thought Jeff was coming to get one of the players because someone in their family was seriously injured, ill or worse. I immediately thought of that time when Jeff had to pull Terry Dietz from the game because his son needed a heart transplant. I agree with photobabe regarding timing. I think the decision to disqualify Dan now rather than sooner was mostly legal. They may have wanted to oust Dan weeks ago, but I'm sure they had to run things past their attorneys to protect themselves against a possible lawsuit. Just because Dan's guilty, doesn't mean he wouldn't try to sue. I agree with what someone wrote upthread regarding Elaine. As soon as she shared her emotional story and the jurors felt empathy toward her, I knew she would be going. If it wasn't that night, it would have been soon. I'm predicting a Janet win. Dean! UGH! Why do people who get an advantage always run back and tell half the camp about the power they possess? Don't they realize that puts a target on their back? And what makes Dean think the people he told won't tell the others? Tommy was loving Dean's "goat-ism," then Dean goes and blabs to Tommy about his nullifier, which didn't strengthen his bond with Tommy. It made him see Dean as a threat. Kellee was eliminated day 22 and Dan eliminated day 36 only two weeks later. Janet was almost on the outs in episode 8 and 9 which was around day 22 thru 24. Dan was touchy feely from day one so in the first three weeks of the show Kellee complained in a confessional, and Dan was approached and given a warning, some ladies decided to use exaggerate Dan's sexual harassment resulting in Janet being a target for two tribal councils were she was tarred with using sexual harassment to hurt someone (in this case Dan). A second incident happened and Dan is out. Seems fair. A lot happened in a span of 36 days or 5 weeks.
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Post by Punkin on Dec 15, 2019 0:21:17 GMT
Regardless of whether Dan is guilty or not, I feel so bad for his young son who visited him on the Island. The poor child is likely to suffer humiliation from his father's transgressions and being the only one banished from the show for his behavior. Sad for him.
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Post by mayamaisha on Dec 15, 2019 1:44:39 GMT
It just didn't seem to me that his actions were sexual in nature or intent It wasn't a sexual play, it was a power play. Exactly!
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Post by silver18 on Dec 15, 2019 2:36:54 GMT
It just didn't seem to me that his actions were sexual in nature or intent It wasn't a sexual play, it was a power play. Not sure I follow....🤔
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Post by MissGriss on Dec 15, 2019 9:21:15 GMT
I don't remember Varner, and I don't care what he has to say.I heard what Kellee said and we saw how touchy feely Dan was. Why is he stirring crap up, ruining the one show I've always enjoyed. I'm so pissed off with these famewhore like him I agree! Watching Dan touch Kellee was so uncomfortable, especially knowing how uncomfortable it made her and that he knew that. It was such a violation of her personal space and assumed an intimacy she clearly did not want. Touching doesn't have to be sexual to be invasive when unwanted. As Brooks said, that type of touching is a power play, and it's not OK. Just because Varner and others (if he's telling the truth) don't get it, doesn't make Kellee wrong, but their attitude just demonstrates how hard it is for people to speak up when their boundaries are violated.
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Post by badseed on Dec 15, 2019 18:18:49 GMT
Regardless of whether Dan is guilty or not, I feel so bad for his young son who visited him on the Island. The poor child is likely to suffer humiliation from his father's transgressions and being the only one banished from the show for his behavior. Sad for him. It makes me mad that Dan got this wonderful gift of a loved-one that guaranteed he'd get picked for the reward, and then didn't stop & think about how his actions would affect his son.
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Post by brycola on Dec 16, 2019 15:12:56 GMT
Dan kept saying that all of these incidents were "accidental", but kinda strange that none of them were men he was accidentally touching. All of his "accients" happen with women.
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Post by photobabe on Dec 16, 2019 20:14:06 GMT
Dan kept saying that all of these incidents were "accidental", but kinda strange that none of them were men he was accidentally touching. All of his "accients" happen with women. Not just women...young, attractive women! Of course, I have no way of knowing what the production crew member looked like, but I'd bet she was young and attractive. Notice that, even though she was friends with him, he never touched Janet. As far as I can tell, he never touched Elaine either. Probably because she doesn't fit into his idea of a sexy gal.
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Post by sirmalcoth on Dec 17, 2019 21:00:44 GMT
I thought they were going to pre film a few hours before 8 pm tomorrow, but apparently the reunion is being filmed tonight, and three players from this season will not be present at the Reunion.
Im sure you can guess one, but the other two surprised me
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Post by justCoz on Dec 17, 2019 21:39:54 GMT
I thought they were going to pre film a few hours before 8 pm tomorrow, but apparently the reunion is being filmed tonight, and three players from this season will not be present at the Reunion. Im sure you can guess one, but the other two surprised me Where can I find that info? Curious minds want to know! Lol
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 17, 2019 21:45:42 GMT
I thought they were going to pre film a few hours before 8 pm tomorrow, but apparently the reunion is being filmed tonight, and three players from this season will not be present at the Reunion. Im sure you can guess one, but the other two surprised me I cannot guess, can you message me, or spoiler it? I'll guess {Spoiler} Missy and Elizabeth?
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Post by sirmalcoth on Dec 17, 2019 22:21:35 GMT
I forgot how to use spoiler tags so i will private message you
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 17, 2019 23:06:34 GMT
I forgot how to use spoiler tags so i will private message you Thanks...right at the end there is an emoji, with its finger to its lips, that's the spoiler.. {Spoiler} Type in the body of the emoji, what you want as a spoiler. ;-)
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Post by Gutmutter on Dec 18, 2019 0:45:31 GMT
Well, SOMEONE needs to spoiler us! 😄
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Post by atwi80d on Dec 18, 2019 2:44:46 GMT
But the big question is Dan going to show up for the "live" reunion? As he was not on the jury nor would return to the game at all.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 18, 2019 3:21:40 GMT
Well, SOMEONE needs to spoiler us! 😄 I will. {Spoiler} Dan, Elizabeth and Jack will not be present at the Reunion. Dan for obvious reasons but apparently Jack and Elizabeth are dating now and because Elizabeth did not want to attend the Reunion, Jack decided to stay home and support her.
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Post by Gutmutter on Dec 18, 2019 12:42:14 GMT
Interesting. Thanks. 😁
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Post by Gutmutter on Dec 18, 2019 12:45:25 GMT
But the big question is Dan going to show up for the "live" reunion? As he was not on the jury nor would return to the game at all. I’m pretty sure when Jeff told them Dan was gone, he said he wouldn’t be on jury or at the finale.
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Post by Brooks on Dec 18, 2019 12:54:45 GMT
Dan is gone
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Post by newsboi on Dec 18, 2019 16:17:06 GMT
They are pre-taping Jeff's Q&A portion with the cast. They are still going to be live for the announcement of the winner. I know because I was asked to be a seat filler for the live portion tonight.
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Post by Brooks on Dec 18, 2019 17:38:16 GMT
They are pre-taping Jeff's Q&A portion with the cast. They are still going to be live for the announcement of the winner. I know because I was asked to be a seat filler for the live portion tonight. That's exciting, are you going to do it?
The winner is announced before the Q&A portion, right? Then it will be shown out of order. We should be on the lookout whether anyone altered their outfits in anyway. And the final three have always been seated with the others in their order of final votes, which if accurate will tell everyone else who won, although maybe it will be obvious by then who had to have won.
What a mess. So many ways that someone with no boundaries can affect life around them.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 19, 2019 2:12:44 GMT
I think this episode and the previous weeks were poor in game play it was so meh, that I kinda watched these episodes on finale night and will wait until tomorrow or the weekend to watch the finale.
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