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Post by FannyMare on Mar 11, 2020 4:59:04 GMT
Hannah Ann's points are spot on tonight! I've come to respect her a whole lot more after this. They didn't show this mature, well-spoken part of Hannah Ann during the season. I loved that she let things slip, that they had talked about. She didn't over act, she put him in place, well spoken, calm, nicely done ! This Peter is who Hannah B had sex with 4 times why? Yuck! |
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Post by norealityhere on Mar 11, 2020 5:10:18 GMT
It was obvious when the parents had their Vow Renewal party that Peter and Madi were a couple.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 11, 2020 5:16:12 GMT
It was obvious when the parents had their Vow Renewal party that Peter and Madi were a couple. What date was that? I don't like his mother( shudder) even with her makeover, but I'm betting she really knows her son. |
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Post by momrek06 on Mar 11, 2020 6:13:15 GMT
I don't know how you come back from this as a family. If that was my mother, I'd be furious....although my mother would NEVER act like that because she's a kind person who would never do anything to embarrass me on national TV. It was beyond hateful. I just can't imagine that Madison was in control of delaying that meeting by 3 hours. In that big machine of a production. In a foreign country. Please. I'd be curious to know the whole story on that.
I guess we know one of the reasons Peter's single. I wonder if she's scared off any other girlfriends....
BABS has been like this forever. She is rude and abrupt and yes absolutely an embarrassment to her family but Peter has seen this his whole life. The reason I know this is because the other son and husband and Peter aren’t telling her to shut up and let Peter make his OWN decisions. They are used to her controlling all them and they sit back idle and let it happen. #gagme 😡😡😡😡😡 |
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Post by Critical on Mar 11, 2020 6:43:16 GMT
I don't know how you come back from this as a family. If that was my mother, I'd be furious....although my mother would NEVER act like that because she's a kind person who would never do anything to embarrass me on national TV. It was beyond hateful. I just can't imagine that Madison was in control of delaying that meeting by 3 hours. In that big machine of a production. In a foreign country. Please. I'd be curious to know the whole story on that.
I guess we know one of the reasons Peter's single. I wonder if she's scared off any other girlfriends....
BABS has been like this forever. She is rude and abrupt and yes absolutely an embarrassment to her family but Peter has seen this his whole life. The reason I know this is because the other son and husband and Peter aren’t telling her to shut up and let Peter make his OWN decisions. They are used to her controlling all them and they sit back idle and let it happen. #gagme 😡😡😡😡😡 I don't feel sorry for Peter Sr. He married her, so he chose to put himself in that position. I DO feel sorry for their sons. Who'd want to bring a girl home to meet THAT mom? UGH.
I don't necessarily think Madison and Peter are a good match, but as his mother, her job in that situation was to give him her support. If she's got doubts, that's a conversation to have in private. Even if they think Madison is the devil incarnate, Peter is an adult and it's his choice to be with whoever he wants to be with. There was a way to say at least some of what she said without being such a witch about it.
Her harping on the 3 hour wait seemed especially petty and childish. She could have said that they just didn't get to know Madi in the same way they got to know Hannah Ann or that they didn't have the immediate connection with her. BUT, because their son loves Madi, they're looking forward to building a relationship with her because they also love their son and support him....and then she should have shut the hell up.
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Post by MissGriss on Mar 11, 2020 6:54:35 GMT
 I can't imagine what she was thinking to put such an ugly side of herself out there on TV for the world to see. Like you said, I don't see how Peter can come back from this in relationship to his family. What his mother did tonight is really unforgivable.
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Post by carolb57 on Mar 11, 2020 7:27:56 GMT
It was obvious when the parents had their Vow Renewal party that Peter and Madi were a couple. Yes, I am wondering why they made it look like his parents were meeting Madi for the first time in Australia when she had been with Peter at their Vow Renewal Party. |
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Post by MissScarlet on Mar 11, 2020 8:19:13 GMT
It’s good to see Clare looking so happy! I think she likes the men she has met so far. Omg, look at Barb giving Clare tips....  I didn't see her meeting any men tonight. The show ran over 5 minutes into the next time slot as is. Did they show this in other time zones? It's happened before that some zones see stuff & others don't. |
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Post by MissScarlet on Mar 11, 2020 8:33:17 GMT
I don’t think she cares, she wants to be pissed until Madison dumps him and then.....she will say I told you so!  I agree, she seems to just want to be right. The way she flaunted ALL the people who agree, all the people who sent her love in her DMs, the whole family and all his friends think it won't last … she just wants to be right. She doesn't care about Peter or his feelings, she can't wait to be proven right. What a stellar example of a mother. Someone online said she spoke Spanish to the dad when he was asked for his input, something like "help me out" -- I'm sure she has dominated these men and manipulated them, and created a toxic family environment, so any girl who gets involved should really watch out. Clare looked good, but hopefully she knows their tricks and is prepared for what they're going to do to her to create drama. ugh. I saw this reported in a couple of other sites. Apparently she said "Say something bad. Help me out" in Spanish. What kind of idiot speaks Spanish on TV in Southern California & doesn't think it will be translated? In fact what kind of idiot speaks Spanish on TV anywhere & doesn't think it will be translated? Spanish has got to be the 2nd most common language spoken in this country. |
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 11, 2020 12:33:07 GMT
Peter's mom is rock solid. She's telling it like it is. This is a TV program, not the real world, and she knows her son. She applauded everything Hannah Ann was saying. Think about that! She was shaking her head in agreement with virtually every word that was coming out of her mouth, even the harshest. Barb sees Peter, flaws and all. But because of the way the show had depicted her, she was in viewers' minds a controlling mom. That's why it was vital for Peter's father to speak so I am grateful that Chris gave him that opportunity. What he said was straightforward and from the heart. Madi and Peter have completely different lifestyles and values and at this point in a relationship, each should be over the moon, but they see their son is clearly not. Peter Sr also said there was so much more to this than what we've been shown, so I take that to the bank. As for Peter, he wanted a happy ending. He tried to force one with Hannah Ann and now he's trying to force one with Madi. He told his parents, "I am telling you that I love Madison and that should be enough." No, Peter, it's not enough. You deserve to be happy, too.
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Post by indy1945 on Mar 11, 2020 13:00:47 GMT
You wonder how Madison's parents feel about how Barbara reacted to their daughter. If I was Madison's mother, I would call Barbara and rake her over the coals. And Chris Harrison sits there and delights in all this drama.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 11, 2020 13:22:54 GMT
You wonder how Madison's parents feel about how Barbara reacted to their daughter. If I was Madison's mother, I would call Barbara and rake her over the coals. And Chris Harrison sits there and delights in all this drama. He loved it all., the actual getting engaged and then, doing a Mesnick, was a bit of a flop, and everyone is talking about Barb.. If this fails, everyone will blame her .. I won't, because his friends and family obviously have seen something, we haven't |
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Post by AlwaysVeg on Mar 11, 2020 13:55:48 GMT
I thought it was funny that at the end, Babs wasted no time hustling down to the stage to talk to Claire, probably to give relationship advice and the benefit of her wisdom <<sarcasm>>. I'd love to know what she said.
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Post by sunnydayz on Mar 11, 2020 14:14:31 GMT
I can't imagine what she was thinking to put such an ugly side of herself out there on TV for the world to see. Like you said, I don't see how Peter can come back from this in relationship to his family. What his mother did tonight is really unforgivable. Mommy Dearest got played by TPTB....played like a fiddle.  Somehow I don’t think it’s the last we’ve seen of her. |
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Post by momrek06 on Mar 11, 2020 16:02:41 GMT
I can't imagine what she was thinking to put such an ugly side of herself out there on TV for the world to see. Like you said, I don't see how Peter can come back from this in relationship to his family. What his mother did tonight is really unforgivable. That is the thing Miss_Griss........BABS did not need to think because this is her life. 24/7. She has a very controlling personality and never shuts it off whether she is at home or on National TV.  |
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 11, 2020 16:06:07 GMT
I can't imagine what she was thinking to put such an ugly side of herself out there on TV for the world to see. Like you said, I don't see how Peter can come back from this in relationship to his family. What his mother did tonight is really unforgivable. That is the thing Miss_Griss........BABS did not need to think because this is her life. 24/7. She has a very controlling personality and never shuts it off whether she is at home or on National TV. She was a flight attendant, imagine asking her for anything..  |
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Post by Girly18 on Mar 11, 2020 16:49:53 GMT
Lets not forget Peter still lives with his Mommy. What's the saying, "My house, my rules." These are also the same parents who clapped and gave a thumbs up at the Tell All when Hannah revealed she had sex with him four times in the windmill.  |
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 11, 2020 17:34:50 GMT
That's not at all uncommon in Cuban culture. Also, if you combine the amount of time he is actually home to the cost of homes in CA, it's practical.
Fans loved Barbara prior to a few nights ago. When they entertained Hannah B in their home, they couldn't have been any more gracious. When Peter's heart was broken they didn't weigh in, other than to say that they loved their son and would help him through it. Nope. Barbara's personality, in particular, has never been an issue. In fact, dare I say, folks thought she was a real gem. No one has ever said they see her relationship with either of her boys, or her husband, as unhealthy.
But this show is notorious for destroying reputations, isn't it?
Peter's fam is very close.
Madison's fam is very close.
Which has the healthier parenting style? Idk.
I will say I did get a weird feeling when Madi's father told Peter that ever since Madison was a little girl she's wanted to save herself for marriage. Little girls do not decide those things. Adults do.
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Post by momrek06 on Mar 11, 2020 17:39:04 GMT
I am guessing Hannah Ann is looking at all this and thinking she dodged a bullet with Peter moving on from her. AND MADISON.........do you really want Babs as a MIL?  TRAIN WRECK. You know that term " grow a set" that is what PETER needs to do. Move out of his parents home, get counseling as to how to keep your mother at a safe distance from you and finally how to pick your own future wife w/o involving your controlling mother. |
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Mar 11, 2020 17:52:16 GMT
I don't think a match is always found on this show. And it's no wonder. Just because you take a bunch of total strangers, doesn't mean one is going to find their lifelong match this way. From what I gathered, it just wasn't to be for him. She wasn't there. It didn't work with Hannah, and it probably won't with Madison, either..or Madison wouldn't have been so reluctant on coming back.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 11, 2020 18:01:38 GMT
I don't think a match is always found on this show. And it's no wonder. Just because you take a bunch of total strangers, doesn't mean one is going to find their lifelong match this way. From what I gathered, it just wasn't to be for him. She wasn't there. It didn't work with Hannah, and it probably won't with Madison, either..or Madison wouldn't have been so reluctant on coming back. I'm so glad I gave this season a miss. What little I did see, seemed boring. No wonder they needed Barb... |
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Post by waywyrd on Mar 11, 2020 23:13:12 GMT
I just read all the stuff RS posted - wow. This is one of the biggest train wrecks of a season we've had. |
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Post by MissScarlet on Mar 12, 2020 5:59:17 GMT
Poor Madison. She didn't deserve to be treated that way by Peter's mom. Sure, we didn't see everything, but Peter obviously fell in love with her & from what we did see, she seemed like a lovely young woman.
I wish Madison & Peter happiness & good wishes for their future.
Peter's mother could have said that much. It's common decency.
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Post by Critical on Mar 12, 2020 8:48:25 GMT
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Post by karna68 on Mar 12, 2020 13:42:08 GMT
OMG that was hilarious, the australian guy "Alice Springs is the biggest s*ithole in australia" |
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 12, 2020 16:40:53 GMT
Here's what Jack has to say, and for what it is worth, it's also being reported his gf has a nice relationship with their mother.
Peter's Brother Speaks Out
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Post by momrek06 on Mar 12, 2020 17:00:56 GMT
That was AWESOME. I feel bad for that JULIE in Production......esp IF they did not hook up.  David Spade is hysterical. I agree with the Comedians......that area of Australia was not the least bit attractive. And it did look like 140 degrees.
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Post by momrek06 on Mar 12, 2020 17:02:05 GMT
Here's what Jack has to say, and for what it is worth, it's also being reported his gf has a nice relationship with their mother.
Peter's Brother Speaks Out
when I click on your link it takes me right to this THREAD. |
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 12, 2020 17:06:49 GMT
Here's what Jack has to say, and for what it is worth, it's also being reported his gf has a nice relationship with their mother.
Peter's Brother Speaks Out
when I click on your link it takes me right to this THREAD. Thanks, Kar  Let me try this again  link |
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 12, 2020 17:15:51 GMT
I didn't hear, that Barb asked Madison if she loved Peter, and Madison said no. So why was she on this show? Why didn't she just leave,or why did she keep coming back..  Anyone with doubts about Claire, it cannot be any worse than this trainwreck of a season |
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