|
Post by Critical on Mar 12, 2020 18:35:56 GMT
She asked, IIRC, if Madison was madly in love with Peter and wanted to marry him. This was just days after she'd discovered Peter had slept with Victoria and Hannah Ann. I can't blame her for not being sure under those circumstances.
I have no doubt Barb loves her kids. That's not the issue. The issue is that she acted like an a-hole and embarrassed her entire family on national TV because she doesn't know when to keep her mouth shut. While yes, she can have her own feelings on the matter, it's not actually her business who her adult son chooses to date or marry. She doesn't get to dictate what Peter does. The way she acted on Tuesday was beyond the pale of normal behavior. That wasn't being a loving mother. That was being selfish.
She's upset that they had to wait 3 hours for Madison. Her son didn't show up while Victoria's family sat and waited.
|
|
|
Post by Cuddles on Mar 12, 2020 19:32:08 GMT
Seems like there's a strong division. I am Team Rachel and have been since Tuesday night link
|
|
|
Post by AlwaysVeg on Mar 12, 2020 21:34:45 GMT
She asked, IIRC, if Madison was madly in love with Peter and wanted to marry him. This was just days after she'd discovered Peter had slept with Victoria and Hannah Ann. I can't blame her for not being sure under those circumstances. I have no doubt Barb loves her kids. That's not the issue. The issue is that she acted like an a-hole and embarrassed her entire family on national TV because she doesn't know when to keep her mouth shut. While yes, she can have her own feelings on the matter, it's not actually her business who her adult son chooses to date or marry. She doesn't get to dictate what Peter does. The way she acted on Tuesday was beyond the pale of normal behavior. That wasn't being a loving mother. That was being selfish. She's upset that they had to wait 3 hours for Madison. Her son didn't show up while Victoria's family sat and waited. The worst was when Chris asked her husband for his opinion, and she quickly whispered to him in Spanish, "Say something bad to back me up."
|
|
|
Post by FannyMare on Mar 12, 2020 22:51:53 GMT
Seems like there's a strong division. I am Team Rachel and have been since Tuesday night link . I've always loved Rachel...
|
|
|
Post by momrek06 on Mar 13, 2020 0:07:59 GMT
As the mother of two millennial sons I really could care less about Peter, Madi, Hannah Ann, Hannah B, Chris Harrison...........etc Its Peter's Mother that was an embarrassment to all MOTHERS. I would never in one million years EVER carry on like this woman did IRL or on tv. EVER. I have wayyyyyyy to much respect for myself, for my sons and my hubby to act like she did BOTH NIGHTS. Crying foolishly as David Spade said like " Peter had returned from Iraq" or the shaking and crying when Peter announced he asked Hannah Ann to marry him..........OMG she went off the RAILS then. Her whole EMOTIONAL display was PATHETIC. And I know I am right because its been the talk of all of SOCIAL MEDIA. I don't love my sons LESS than she does. Babs has a TOTAL LACK of DECORUM. Period. And finally, what BABS whispered to her husband at the end was despicable. Ok Kar is now stepping down off her "soap box".
|
|
|
Post by Mikesgirl on Mar 13, 2020 2:24:22 GMT
Critical . This is pure gold!
|
|
|
Post by FannyMare on Mar 13, 2020 3:57:01 GMT
As the mother of two millennial sons I really could care less about Peter, Madi, Hannah Ann, Hannah B, Chris Harrison...........etc Its Peter's Mother that was an embarrassment to all MOTHERS. I would never in one million years EVER carry on like this woman did IRL or on tv. EVER. I have wayyyyyyy to much respect for myself, for my sons and my hubby to act like she did BOTH NIGHTS. Crying foolishly as David Spade said like " Peter had returned from Iraq" or the shaking and crying when Peter announced he asked Hannah Ann to marry him..........OMG she went off the RAILS then. Her whole EMOTIONAL display was PATHETIC. And I know I am right because its been the talk of all of SOCIAL MEDIA. I don't love my sons LESS than she does. Babs has a TOTAL LACK of DECORUM. Period. And finally, what BABS whispered to her husband at the end was despicable. Ok Kar is now stepping down off her "soap box". She's just a horrible person, who needed very little coaxing from this show, they loved every minute of it.
|
|
|
Post by momrek06 on Mar 13, 2020 6:40:50 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Critical on Mar 13, 2020 7:05:01 GMT
Well that didn’t take long I’m only disappointed because I know that Barb is probably calling with glee.
|
|
|
Post by MissGriss on Mar 13, 2020 7:44:11 GMT
I make no excuses for Barb's behavior. I think, however, that she was just as mad at the show last night as she was at Madison. She was pissed that Chris and the producers had meddled and brought Madison back into Peter's life (and face it, he didn't look that happy to see her when she came to see him in California), and I think she was determined not to let Chris Harrison pass this reunion off as a happy ending.
|
|
|
Post by Critical on Mar 13, 2020 8:43:13 GMT
OMG that was hilarious, the australian guy "Alice Springs is the biggest s*ithole in australia" That’s Jim Jeffries. He’s hilarious. He has several stand-up specials on Netflix.
|
|
|
Post by Cuddles on Mar 13, 2020 12:36:33 GMT
I make no excuses for Barb's behavior. I think, however, that she was just as mad at the show last night as she was at Madison. She was pissed that Chris and the producers had meddled and brought Madison back into Peter's life (and face it, he didn't look that happy to see her when she came to see him in California), and I think she was determined not to let Chris Harrison pass this reunion off as a happy ending. You're exactly right. At some point in their journey it became painfully clear to Peter's family that production never really cared about his happiness. And they would not take the darn camera off of her, which was just mean. As Madi would say (with her new agent in hand), it is what it is. I'm not understanding why fans are reacting surprised that they're split. Who thought it even looked like they were together on Tuesday? They weren't at all into one another, not even a little!
|
|
|
Post by waywyrd on Mar 13, 2020 12:41:08 GMT
Madi and Peter broke up? I didn't see that coming at all. It's for the best, he can go back to being his little playboy self and Madi can find someone better suited to her lifestyle. Hannah Ann can go on BIP. And here's hoping I never see that histrionic witch Barb on my TV ever again.
|
|
|
Post by nennie on Mar 13, 2020 14:07:34 GMT
I make no excuses for Barb's behavior. I think, however, that she was just as mad at the show last night as she was at Madison. She was pissed that Chris and the producers had meddled and brought Madison back into Peter's life (and face it, he didn't look that happy to see her when she came to see him in California), and I think she was determined not to let Chris Harrison pass this reunion off as a happy ending. You're exactly right. At some point in their journey it became painfully clear to Peter's family that production never really cared about his happiness. And they would not take the darn camera off of her, which was just mean. As Madi would say (with her new agent in hand), it is what it is. I'm not understanding why fans are reacting surprised that they're split. Who thought it even looked like they were together on Tuesday? They weren't at all into one another, not even a little! They knew that from his stint on Hannah B's season. Apparently they don't learn very quickly. 5 minutes of fame is apparently what he wanted and what he got but the backlash I am sure he didn't think would happen to the magnitude it has. Barb needs to learn wisdom is knowing when to open your mouth or when to keep it shut. They put themselves on this show live with the fallout.
|
|
|
Post by FannyMare on Mar 13, 2020 14:12:34 GMT
It's not like these two were ever suited, it just make this show more of a joke imnsho. Is he still seeing a producer of the show?
|
|
|
Post by FannyMare on Mar 13, 2020 14:14:48 GMT
I make no excuses for Barb's behavior. I think, however, that she was just as mad at the show last night as she was at Madison. She was pissed that Chris and the producers had meddled and brought Madison back into Peter's life (and face it, he didn't look that happy to see her when she came to see him in California), and I think she was determined not to let Chris Harrison pass this reunion off as a happy ending. x100.
|
|
|
Post by angelic_one2002 on Mar 13, 2020 16:36:48 GMT
These people all need to just step away....go their own way, and move on with life. NO match was made, or meant to be...obviously.
|
|
|
Post by Cuddles on Mar 13, 2020 16:52:58 GMT
It's not like these two were ever suited, it just make this show more of a joke imnsho. Is he still seeing a producer of the show? yeah, I definitely see it as more of a joke, now - there's more behind-the-scenes messing around than I ever imagined they're saying that's why they're bringing back Clare - older group, more serious about love and not fame, etc. we'll see as for the question you asked about a producer, CH says that was a false rumor, Idk anything more than that
|
|
|
Post by FannyMare on Mar 13, 2020 17:04:30 GMT
It's not like these two were ever suited, it just make this show more of a joke imnsho. Is he still seeing a producer of the show? yeah, I definitely see it as more of a joke, now - there's more behind-the-scenes messing around than I ever imagined they're saying that's why they're bringing back Clare - older group, more serious about love and not fame, etc. we'll see as for the question you asked about a producer, CH says that was a false rumor, Idk anything more than that There are pictures of him with the producer NYE CH will carry water for this show for as long as it's on. Peter was one of the worst bachelors, his season was a joke. I'm glad Hannah Anne got to-say what she thought of him.
|
|
|
Post by Cuddles on Mar 13, 2020 17:21:38 GMT
I'm not so sure that HA and her pushup bra were there for the right reasons, either, lol.
|
|
|
Post by FannyMare on Mar 13, 2020 17:47:35 GMT
I'm not so sure that HA and her pushup bra were there for the right reasons, either, lol. I liked what she said to him , and how she said.
|
|
julief
FORT Regular
Posts: 179
|
Post by julief on Mar 13, 2020 20:38:22 GMT
I read that he may have been secretly hooking up with Kelley.
|
|
|
Post by fang2170 on Mar 13, 2020 21:59:06 GMT
I read that he may have been secretly hooking up with Kelley. I think just about every viewer and poster here liked Kelly. There was an overwhelming opinion that she was more mature than Peter though. If they are hooking up, maybe she's just having fun with him. It would be hard to take him seriously after watching this season.
|
|
|
Post by MissScarlet on Mar 13, 2020 21:59:11 GMT
I think this whole thing (the way the show ended, ATFR, Peter's miserable excuse for a mother, the breakup, ets.) is just sad all around.
I never cared for Peter, even during his stint as a contestant on The Bachelorette. I read a lot of dirt on him that TPTB apparently covered up because they had him pegged for The Bachelor. They didn't want their golden boy sullied. Then the whole windmill bit (blabbed rudely by Hannah) and the way the show just ran with it & made it a "cute" anecdote about him. All in all that should have remained nobody's business.
Something about this season & the previews/promos just didn't sit right with me. It all just seemed more nasty than usual. The obviously staged conflicts; the immature women; the bullying; and of course the whole Victoria F unpleasantness. I didn't watch TWTA because I just didn't want to look at them anymore. The Fantasy Suite episode was painful to watch. Even after Madison expressed her views, old Petey boy couldn't keep it in his pants. Then later, Madison was treated like SHE was the problem because she wasn't OK with him scr*wing anyone in sight even when he claimed to love her. Hey Peter. That's NOT OK or acceptable in any manner. And then she was expected to just get over it instantly. Doesn't work that way!
The Finale was worst than a trainwreck. I was shocked at the insensitivity of Peter, not only towards Madison, but towards Hannah Ann. She was used as a pawn so that the show could get their proposal. He knew what that would do to her, but he had to be the Company Man & give them their ending they wanted no matter who he hurt & humiliated. When they brought Madison out, it was clear that she still wasn't ready to just forget everything that happened.
Then Peter's unbelievably nasty mother took over. Who on earth would ever want to be included in such a vile family, especially seeing that Peter still lives with them! And she condones his bringing random pickups home for sex, even welcomes them. The way she treated Madison was abhorrent. Everything she claimed/claims Madison did to offend her was totally understandable reactions to the way this show is & went down: The showing up late: After the whole Fantasy Suite bit, she just wasn't ready for a happy little "Meet the Parents" bit. She was still hurt & offended & wasn't sure if she'd be able to get past it. As for telling his mother that she wasn't madly in love with him & ready to accept his proposal, same thing. She just wasn't sure if she loved him enough to get past it & darned sure wasn't ready to accept a marriage proposal yet. She needed time to process the whole thing & trust him again. That doesn't happen in just a couple days. She wanted to give the relationship a chance, but not just ignore the differences & hurt. That seems much more normal to me than the way the show wants women to act.
After the debacle of the 2nd night of the Finale, Madison had been squashed like a bug. That poor girl is only 23. She was insulted, humiliated, manipulated, & used. Nomatter how she felt about Peter, that would be extremely difficult to overcome. Now I've even read that since the breakup, his despicable mother has posted making fun of the breakup & Madison. What a cold & heartless woman. All in all, I think Peter needs to get out of that house & go through some serious therapy. Madison just needs to get away from them all.
This season has left me with a bad taste towards the show that has surpassed all bad tastes they've left in the past.
|
|
|
Post by Arielflies on Mar 14, 2020 4:11:33 GMT
So happy I never caved and watched this season.
I may, repeat may watch Clare's premiere night...I'll see at the time.
|
|
|
Post by FannyMare on Mar 14, 2020 4:50:25 GMT
So happy I never caved and watched this season. I may, repeat may watch Clare's premiere night...I'll see at the time. I think I'll watch Claire's season, but if looks like it's going off the rails , I'll ditch it.
|
|
|
Post by MissScarlet on Mar 14, 2020 9:26:35 GMT
So happy I never caved and watched this season. I may, repeat may watch Clare's premiere night...I'll see at the time. I think I'll watch Claire's season, but if looks like it's going off the rails , I'll ditch it. I've always liked Clare, but I agree completely. I plan to read spoilers before the season this time, and if either the spoilers or the beginning of the season seems anything like this Bachelor season, I'm out. I won't waste all those weeks on a garbage season again. I've read that filming has been postponed for Clare's season because of the coronavirus. They may be doing everyone a favor.
|
|
|
Post by angelic_one2002 on Mar 14, 2020 11:45:19 GMT
So happy I never caved and watched this season. I may, repeat may watch Clare's premiere night...I'll see at the time. I think I'll watch Claire's season, but if looks like it's going off the rails , I'll ditch it. Me too, FannyMare! I'll find a good book to read, if that's the case.
|
|
|
Post by AlwaysVeg on Mar 15, 2020 4:23:15 GMT
I think I'll watch Claire's season, but if looks like it's going off the rails , I'll ditch it. I've always liked Clare, but I agree completely. I plan to read spoilers before the season this time, and if either the spoilers or the beginning of the season seems anything like this Bachelor season, I'm out. I won't waste all those weeks on a garbage season again. I've read that filming has been postponed for Clare's season because of the coronavirus. They may be doing everyone a favor.
|
|